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First Round Highlights
A simply amazing first round for the top 4 seeds in each bracket. Only 1 team, a 4 seed was beaten and failed to advance past the first round. That unlucky team was #4 Hawaii in the West Bracket. They were taken down by #13 Tennessee Martin. Other notables to advance: #5 Wichita State, #6 Princeton, #9 Sacramento State, #5 Texas Southern, #10 Grambling, #6 South Alabama, #11 Nicholls State. Second Round highlights The second round was not so kind to the top seeds, particularly in the West bracket. #1 Loyola lost to #8 Montana to start things off. The other #1 seeds did survive. In the Midwest region we lost a 2 seed as #2 IUPUI was taken down by #7 Chicago State. We lost half of the 3 seeds in this round too, both in the West and Midwest. #3 New Mexico State was upset by #6 Princeton in the West and #3 Arkansas State was beaten by #6 San Diego in the Midwest. We lost another 4 seed as well in this round. #4 Air Force was beaten by #5 North Texas. Other notables to advance: #5 Wichita State
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02-07-2004, 08:16 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
Starting in the West Region, #8 seed Montana knocked off #5 Wichita State to advance to the Elite Eight. They will face, #2 Oakland who took care of #6 Princeton. In the Midwest Region, #1 Drake falls victim to #4 St. Mary’s. They will face #7 Chicago State in the Elite Eight. Chicago State beat #6 San Diego to advance. In the South, yet another #1 seed goes down. #1 Northern Arizona, plagued by NCAA trouble in recent years falls to #4 Santa Clara. They will face #2 St. Bonaventure, who beat #3 Valparaiso. Finally, in the East, #1 Duquesne does get through by beating #5 North Texas. They will face #2 Brown who got by #3 Bethune Cookman. Elite Eight Highlights Starting in the West again, #2 Oakland got by #8 Montana and they are the first Final Four team of the year. In the Midwest, #4 Santa Clara kept the momentum up after beating the 1 seed to knock out the upstart 7 seed Chicago State. In a battle of former champs, #2 St. Bonaventure beats #4 Santa Clara to advance to the Final Four. Finally, in the East, #1 Duquesne returns to the Final Four again after taking care of #2 Brown.
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02-07-2004, 08:25 PM
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Final Four
First, Southern Illinois beats Tennessee State for the NIT title. The Match Ups #2 Oakland vs. #2 St. Bonaventure #4 St. Mary’s vs. #1 Duquesne In game 1, Oakland just whipped up on the Bonnies every which way they could. The final score was 97-59. Oakland was led by a trio of players. PG Chauncey Bronson, a Senior and ranked #89 in 1944 scored a game high 23 points and had 9 assists. SG Ken Schneider, another Senior ranked 88 overall in 1941 scored 22 and yet another Senior SF David Smiley added 20. Smiley was ranked #119 in 1941. In game 2, St. Mary’s went to SF Charles Sprouce time and time again. The Junior SF responded with 19 points and 9 rebounds to pace the team. But St. Mary’s had no answer for Duquesne’s Center, Junior Michael Houk. Houk has declared for the draft and is making the most of his final games. He put up an amazing 30 points tonight to help Duquesne to the 78-75 victory. In the Finals, Duquesne kept going back inside to their star Center, Michael Houk and again he came up big with another 26 points. Oakland’s fearsome threesome from the first game was held to 32 points combined, but their inside game came to life tonight. C Erik Diaz and PF Mark Radtke combined for 29 points and 23 rebounds, each with a double double. Oakland had just enough in the end to just get by in this game and pull out a 79-77 victory to claim their first National Championship!
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02-07-2004, 08:27 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 2 Santa Clara 2 Duquesne 2 Idaho 1 Arkansas State 1 Fordham 1 Bethune-Cookman 1 St. Bonaventure 1 Drake 1 Brown 1 Oakland 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Northern Arizona 6 Duquesne 5 Grambling 3 Georgia State 3 Drake 3 Washington 2 Canisius 2 Wichita State 2 Sacramento State 2 Bethune-Cookman 2 Santa Clara 2 Troy State 2 South Carolina State 2 Loyola Marymount 2 Arkansas State 2 St. Bonaventure 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Cal State Northridge 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 San Francisco 1 St. Joseph’s 1 Norfolk State 1 Fordham 1 Eastern Washington 1 IUPUI 1 Denver 1 Delaware State 1 Indiana State 1 Brown 1 St. Mary’s 1 Oakland 1
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02-07-2004, 08:38 PM
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Off Season Stuff
The East has won their third straight High School All-Star game Code:
Season Awards Code:
Warren is a Senior and took the Bonnies to the Final Four this year. He was the #11 recruit in 1942. He was a 3 year starter. Schexnayder is a true freshman and was ranked #183 in the recruiting pool last year. He averaged just over 10 points per game and just over 3 assists. All Scott Black did was take an Arkansas Little Rock team that has NEVER been to the NCAA tournament, and only had 1 NIT appearance in their history, to the NCAA’s and even win a game! Recruiting Rankings Code:
Arkansas State had the following recruits: 88, 2, 12, 22 Norfolk State had: 7, 10, 15 Top Conferences Atlantic 10 Big Sky Ivy Mid-Continent Missouri Valley Sun Belt West Coast Top Teams Drake 82 Duquesne 82 Brown 81 Northern Arizona 77 Bethune 76 Arkansas State 72 Santa Clara 71 Loyola 70 Wichita State 66 Iowa 36 Penn State 35 UMASS 33 Illinois 24 UTEP 20 Coaching Changes Nothing Major
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02-07-2004, 08:45 PM
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1947-1948
This year we have eleven 5 star recruits. Four of them have declared for the NBA draft already. Two other signed during the early recruiting period. #9 PF Emanuel Rowland, from Oakhurst, CA has committed to Drake. #11 SF Marty Williams, from Jeffersonville, GA has committed to St. Bonaventure. The others: #1 SF Leroy Leftwich, from Conway, SC: Arkansas State #2 PG Eric Jones, from Houston, TX: Northern Arizona #7 SF Jason Valle, from Los Lunas, NM: Santa Clara #8 SG Richard Murphy, from Bremen, IN: Drake #10 PG Daniel Mielke, from Ellsworth, ME: Northern Arizona Pre Season Polls Code:
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02-07-2004, 10:16 PM
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Mid Season Report
All of our recruits have given their commitments: #1 SF Leroy Leftwich has committed to Arkansas State. #2 PG Eric Jones has committed to Northern Arizona #7 SF Jason Valle has committed to Drake. #8 SG Richard Murphy has committed to Drake. #10 PG Daniel Miekle has committed to Northern Arizona. Mid Season Polls Code:
UMASS: 0-2, 3-9 Iowa 4-0, 11-4 Penn State 2-2, 9-7 Illinois 0-4, 3-11 Wichita State 5-2, 11-4, ranked #16 UTEP 2-4, 8-7
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02-07-2004, 11:01 PM
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Regular Season Report
Final Polls Code:
UMASS 0-16 (6th in East), 3-26, RPI 314 Iowa 13-3 (1st), 23-8, RPI 22 Penn State 8-8 (T4th), 16-14, RPI 152 Illinois 3-13 (Last), 6-23, RPI 319 Wichita State 11-7 (T2nd), 19-12, RPI 26 UTEP 7-11 (8th), 14-15, RPI 161 Points per game Code:
Callender is just a junior and will be returning. He was ranked just #702 back in 1944. Parson is also a junior, but he has declared for the draft. He was ranked #364 back in 1944. Rebounds per game Code:
Rossiter is a senior. He was ranked #66 overall in 1942. Smith is just a junior and was ranked #314 in 1943. Assists per game Code:
Tuck is a junior and was ranked #96 overall in 1946. Ferrer is a Senior and was ranked #118 in 1943. Early Departures Code:
Brackets West 1 Northern Arizona 2 Oakland 3 Fordham 4 Santa Clara 8 Wichita State 9 Norfolk State 13 Cal State Fullerton 14 Georgia Southern 11 Air Force A very deep bracket Mid West 1 Drake 2 Sacramento State 3 Wyoming 4 St. Mary’s 8 Penn 5 Arkansas State 7 Prairie View 6 IUPUI Another bracket with some solid depth South 1 Brown 2 Bethune 3 Eastern Washington 4 New Mexico State 8 Iowa 12 St. Joseph’s 7 Nicholls State The top 2 teams are great, after that this bracket is not all that strong. East 1 Duquesne 2 Loyola Marymount 3 Montana 4 Coppin State 8 Seton Hall 7 Delaware State 10 St. Boneventure
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02-07-2004, 11:07 PM
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First Round Highlights
#16 Old Dominion pulls off a once in a decade upset by knocking off #1 Brown in the South Region Bracket! 62-61 was the final score! The rest of the #1 seeds advanced. We also had a #2 seed go down, this time in the East as #2 Loyola was upset by #15 Robert Morris. We lost two #2 seeds. In the West, #14 Georgia Southern beat #3 Fordham. In the Midwest, #14 Eastern Michigan beat #3 Wyoming. All of the #4 seeds advanced. Other notables: #8 Wichita State, #8 Penn, #5 Arkansas State, #6 IUPUI, #12 St. Joseph’s, #7 Nicholls State, #10 St. Bonaventure Second Round Highlights The three remaining #1 seeds have advanced. In the West Region, #2 Oakland was upset by #7 Navy. No back to back titles again this year. Another #2, Bethune-Cookman, was upset by #7 Nicholls State in the South Region. The two remaining 3 seeds both advanced. In the West, #4 Santa Clara was taken down by #12 IPFW. The other 4 seeds advanced. Other notables: #6 IUPUI
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02-07-2004, 11:12 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
Two more #1 seeds fall in this round. In the West, #1 Northern Arizona falls again, this time to #12 IPFW. They will face #6 Texas Southern. In the Midwest, #4 St. Mary’s upset #1 Drake to advance. They will face off against #2 Sacramento State, who got by #6 IUPUI. In the South, #9 Southern Illinois continues to advance by beating #4 New Mexico State. They will play #3 Eastern Washington, who beat #7 Nicholls State. In the East, #1 Duquesne again advances to the Elite Eight by beating #4 Coppin State. They play #3 Montana, who beat #10 St. Bonaventure. Elite Eight Highlights We have a surprise Final Four this year. I doubt anybody would have picked 2 of these teams, never mind all 4. In the West, #6 Texas Southern advances with a win over #12 IPFW. In the Midwest, #2 Sacramento State beats #4 St. Marys to advance. In the South, it is #9 Southern Illinois over #3 Eastern Washington. And in the East, #1 Duquesne gets knocked off by #3 Montana.
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02-07-2004, 11:13 PM
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Final Four
First, the NIT: Hawaii beats Western Michigan The Match Ups #6 Texas Southern vs. #9 Southern Illinois #2 Sacramento State vs. #3 Montana
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02-08-2004, 12:44 AM
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02-08-2004, 03:37 PM
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In game 1, Texas Southern had Senior PG John Hewitt lead the team with 16 points and 6 assists. They also had a freshman SG come off the bench to keep them in the game. Bobby Roan scored 12 points in 17 minutes of play. Southern Illinois just had too much talent though. Sophomore SF Bryce Hall led the team with 16 points and PF Nathan Taylor, a senior added 13 with 10 rebounds. They also had another rplayer with 10 boards and 2 other score in double figures. This extra talent led Southern Illinois to a 68-63 victory.
Game 2 was all Sacramento State. They ran away with a 15 point victory, thanks in large part to PF Ellsworth Goodwin, a senior. He scored 20 points and pulled in 9 boards. They also had 3 other players score in double figures and 5 other players contribute in the scoring column. The finals was once again all Sacramento State. They led from start to finish and ended up winning by 19, 69-50. Ellsworth again had a nice game with 10 points and 10 boards, but SG Dewitt Goldman, just a junior, led the team in scoring with 14. Sacramento State wins its first ever National Title!
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02-08-2004, 03:38 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 2 Santa Clara 2 Duquesne 2 Idaho 1 Arkansas State 1 Fordham 1 Bethune-Cookman 1 St. Bonaventure 1 Drake 1 Brown 1 Oakland 1 Sacramento State 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Northern Arizona 6 Duquesne 5 Grambling 3 Georgia State 3 Drake 3 Sacramento State 3 Washington 2 Canisius 2 Wichita State 2 Bethune-Cookman 2 Santa Clara 2 Troy State 2 South Carolina State 2 Loyola Marymount 2 Arkansas State 2 St. Bonaventure 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Cal State Northridge 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 San Francisco 1 St. Joseph’s 1 Norfolk State 1 Fordham 1 Eastern Washington 1 IUPUI 1 Denver 1 Delaware State 1 Indiana State 1 Brown 1 St. Mary’s 1 Oakland 1 Texas Southern 1 Montana 1 Southern Illinois 1
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02-08-2004, 03:51 PM
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Off Season Stuff
The East have now won their 4th All Star game in a row Code:
Season Awards Code:
Robertson is just a junior for Bethune-Cookman. He averaged over 12 points and almost 5 assists per game this year. He also had just under 4 steal per game. Davis red shirted last year and had a huge freshman season this year. He averaged 17 points and 4 rebounds per game. A year after winning the National Championship, Meredith gets recognized with a Coach of the Year Award. Recruiting Code:
Drake had a huge year, maybe the best ever in grabbing recruits #: 7, 8, 9, 14 Northern Arizona was solid as well: 2, 10, 33, 55 Top Conferences Atlantic 10 Big Sky Ivy Mid-Continent Missouri Valley Mountain West West Coast Big Ten 2 WAC 3 Top Teams Duquesne 81 Brown 79 Drake 78 Northern Arizona 76 Arkansas State 73 Bethune 72 Loyola 72 Sacramento State 71 Wichita State 66 Iowa 41 Penn State 36 UMASS 31 Illinois 21 UTEP 20 Louisville 3 Coaching Changes Denver fired their coach, Tony Jones. They went out and hired Oscar Williams from Southeast Missouri State. Oscar has a 138-131 record as a head coach and took SE MO State to the NIT last year. Oakland’s Mark Meredith retired two years after a Title and just after being named Coach of the Year. Oakland hired Kevin Shoop from Southern U to replace him. Kevin has a career record of 160-198, but has gotten Southern to the Post Season every year for the last 4 seasons.
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02-08-2004, 09:39 PM
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1948-1949
This season we have ten 5 star recruits. Three of them have declared for the draft and here are the 2 that have already committed to a school: #1 C Eric Chapman, from Highland, UT, has committed to Brown. #8 SG Joe Blackburn, from Las Cruces, NM, has committed to Duquesne. And the others, with their top school(s): #2 C Floyd Alpert, from Houston, OH: Brown, Northern Arizona #3 SG Charles Henninger, from St. Augustine, FL: Brown #4 PF Virgil Levan, from Pendleton, SC: Loyola #6 SF Abel Defrance, from Istres, France: None #10 C Gregorio Marquez, from San Diego, CA: Brown, Drake, Northern Arizona, Loyola Pre Season Polls Code:
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02-08-2004, 09:52 PM
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Are Northern 'Zona the biggest underachievers of all time?
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02-08-2004, 09:53 PM
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Mid Season Review
Three more recruits have signed on with schools: #2 C Floyd Alpert: Bethune #3 SG Charles Henninger: Brown #4 Virgil Levan: Loyola And the others, still undecided: #6 Abel DeFrance: None yet #10 C Gregorio Marques: Did not qualify Mid Season Polls Code:
UMASS: 1-4, 4-14 Iowa 5-1, 9-8 Penn State 3-2, 8-8 Illinois 2-2, 4-11 Wichita State 5-3, 13-5, Ranked #12 UTEP 4-3, 11-5
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02-08-2004, 09:54 PM
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Are Northern 'Zona the biggest underachievers of all time?
quite possibly. Although they do have a couple of titles, they are always a 1 seed and lately have flamed out early.
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02-08-2004, 09:58 PM
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You used to live in Cruces? Has the smell of cow shit washed off of you yet??? UTEP is 11-5?!? WOW!
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02-08-2004, 10:09 PM
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02-08-2004, 10:15 PM
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I notice that you didn't actually answer my question. That's OK though. My mom grew up in freakin Anthony, so the smell of cow shit will NEVER leave her...
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02-08-2004, 10:20 PM
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Regular Season Report
Our remaining recruit has finally made up his mind: #6 SF Abel DeFrance has committed to Drake. Final Poll Code:
UMASS 5-11 (Last in East), 9-21, RPI 220 Iowa 12-4 (T2nd), 16-13, RPI 182 Penn State 10-6 (4th), 16-14, RPI 175 Illinois 6-10 (T7th), 8-21, RPI 307 Wichita State 10-8 (4th), 19-11, RPI 36 UTEP 11-7 (T2nd), 19-10, RPI 92 Points per game Code:
Truett is a Senior and was ranked 268 in 1944. He is a 4 year starter and never averaged less than 19.4 points per game in a year. Bruner is also a senior. He was ranked #195 in 1944. Rebounds per game Code:
Holstein is a senior and was ranked #232 in 1944. Whaley is another senior. He was almost completely overlook, as he was ranked 787 in 1943. Assists Per game Code:
Campbell is a Senior and was ranked just outside the top 100 back in 1944. Fuller is also a senior and was ranked #59 in 1943. Early Departures Code:
Brackets West 1 Northern Arizona 2 St. Mary’s 3 Princeton 4 Western Illinois 5 Air Force 11 Troy State Weak. N. Arizona should be ashamed if they flame out this year. Midwest 1 Drake 2 Oakland 3 Yale 4 Loyola 5 Sacramento State 12 Texas Southern Pretty strong with Drake and the last two champs. South 1 Duquesne 2 Penn 3 Campbell 4 Santa Clara 9 Southern Illinois 5 New Mexico State 12 Alabama State 15 Georgia Southern 6 Delaware State 11 Wichita State Not strong, but very deep with solid teams. East 1 Brown 2 Bethune 3 Fordham 4 Grambling 5 St. Bonaventure 14 Canisius 6 Arkansas State 11 Georgia State Is Grambling ready to return to the elite of college basketball?
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02-08-2004, 10:24 PM
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Fuck! 19-10 and we didn't make the dance...
 Did UTEP at least make the NIT, Marm? Long live UTEP's relatively new coach!
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02-08-2004, 10:26 PM
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I have a good swimming in the Rio Grande story which I won't share here and continue to threadjack poor Marm, but I still find sand in my clothes after we moved 24 years ago
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02-08-2004, 10:28 PM
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First Round Highlights
All of the #1 seeds advanced pretty easily this year. The #2 seeds struggled though. In the South, #15 Georgia Southern beat #2 Penn. In the West, #15 Cal State Northridge beat #2 St. Mary’s. We also lost a 3 seed in the first round. In the East, #14 Canisius beat #3 Fordham. The four seeds did just as bad as the 2 seeds this year. It is not the return of Grambling either. #13 Georgetown beat them. In the West, #13 Marshall beat #4 Western Illinois. Other notables: #5 Air Force, #5 Sacramento State, #11 Wyoming, #9 Southern Illinois, #5 New Mexico State, #11 Wichita State, #10 Stony Brook, #6 Arkansas State Round Two highlights The Northern Arizona curse is becoming legendary. They fail to make the sweet sixteen this year as #8 Hofstra beats them. The rest of the #1 seeds advance. The two remaining 2 seeds advanced. We lost two of our remaining three #3 seeds in this round. In the West, #6 Chicago State beat #3 Princeton. In the Midwest, #11 Wyoming beat #3 Yale. We lost another 4 seed as well. #5 New Mexico State beat #4 Santa Clara in the South Region. Other notables: #5 Air Force, #15 Cal State Northridge, #7 New Orleans, #14 Canisius
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02-08-2004, 10:28 PM
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Yes Jeeber, but they lost in the first round.
Progress.
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02-08-2004, 10:33 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
The West Bracket is already completely busted. #5 Air Force beats #8 Hofstra to advance to the Elite Eight. They will face #15 Cal State Northridge. In the Midwest, we lose another 1 seed as #4 Loyola beats #1 Drake. They will play the 2 seed, Oakland, who got by #11 Wyoming. In the South, #1 Duquesne moves on by beating New Mexico State. They face #7 New Orleans in the next round. They beat #3 Campbell to advance. Finally, in the East, #1 Brown advances over #13 Georgetown. They will meet up with #2 Bethune, who got by #14 Canisius. Elite Eight highlights In the West, we get the highest seed ever to make the final four. #15 Cal State Northridge is playing like a top seed as they knock off #5 Air Force and make the Final Four! In the Midwest, #2 Oakland will look for their 2nd title in 3 years as they beat #4 Loyola. In the South, #1 Duquesne is back in the Final Four after they beat #7 New Orleans. In the East, we have a #1/#2 matchup and #2 Bethune-Cookman is back in the final four after beating #1 Brown!
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02-08-2004, 10:35 PM
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First postseason appearance ever Jeebs. I would love to see some your guys teams get better.
Also, I am itching to take over a team....would that ruin this dynasty for you guys, or should I get more history behind me?
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02-08-2004, 10:41 PM
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Final Four
Youngston State beats Binghampton for the NIT title. The Match Ups #15 Cal State Northridge vs. #1 Duquesne #2 Oakland vs. #2 Bethune In game 1, you have to wonder how Cal State continues to do it! The answer is pretty simple, they have 2 studs. Senior PG Ed Neary was unstoppable. He was the #44 overall recruit as a JUCO in 1946. He went off for 28 points tonight. He had plenty of help from Senior C Jenaro Saez, ranked #192 in 1946, another JUCO. He scored 20 tonight. All that was almost not enough. Duquesne had Junior SF Dan Seem, ranked #45 in 1944. He scored 15 and grabbed 11 boards. He vows to be back here next year after a heart breaking 75-74 loss to the 15 seed. Game 2 came down to a single factor. For both teams, the PG, SG, SF and PF all scored in double figures. For Bethune, their center scored 16, while the Oakland Center fouled out after just 10 minutes of playing time. The backup scored 2 in 21 minutes, including just 2 for 9 from the free throw stripe. Bethune took advantage and won this one 85-79. The amazing run for Cal State came to an abrupt end early in the first half of the title game. They were dominated in every aspect of the game. It turned out to be the biggest blowout in Finals history. Bethune takes their second National Title with a 79-36 ass kicking of Cal State.
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02-08-2004, 10:43 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 2 Santa Clara 2 Duquesne 2 Bethune-Cookman 2 Idaho 1 Arkansas State 1 Fordham 1 St. Bonaventure 1 Drake 1 Brown 1 Oakland 1 Sacramento State 1 Final Four Teams Code:
Northern Arizona 6 Duquesne 6 Grambling 3 Georgia State 3 Drake 3 Sacramento State 3 Bethune-Cookman 3 Washington 2 Canisius 2 Wichita State 2 Santa Clara 2 Troy State 2 South Carolina State 2 Loyola Marymount 2 Arkansas State 2 St. Bonaventure 2 Oakland 2 Cal State Northridge 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 San Francisco 1 St. Joseph’s 1 Norfolk State 1 Fordham 1 Eastern Washington 1 IUPUI 1 Denver 1 Delaware State 1 Indiana State 1 Brown 1 St. Mary’s 1 Texas Southern 1 Montana 1 Southern Illinois 1
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02-08-2004, 11:05 PM
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General Manager
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Town of Flower Mound
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I have no issues with you taking over a team...
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02-08-2004, 11:14 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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Off Season
The West is back on top in the High School All Star Game Code:
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Crutchfield is just a Junior, but he has declared for the draft already. He only started 1 year in his career. He was ranked #41 overall in 1944. Lin red shirted last year. He was ranked #102 overall in 1946. Lieberman took Bethune to a National Title in his third year with the team. A no brainer decision there. Recruiting Rankings Code:
Brown lands recruits #3, #1, and #16 Duquesne lands #8, 24, 26 Top Conferences Atlantic 10 Big Sky Ivy Mid-Continent Mid-Eastern Sun Belt West Coast Big Ten 1 Missouri Valley 4 WAC 2 Top Teams Duquesne 82 Brown 80 Bethune 78 Drake 77 Northern Arizona 75 Oakland 75 Loyola 73 Wichita State 66 Iowa 40 UMASS 31 UTEP 27 Illinois 20 Coaching Changes Bethune-Cookman’s Mark Kieberman retires after winning a Title and a Coach of the Year Award! Bethune hires Penn’s coach of 10 years, Mike Ammerman. He has a 391-214 career record. He won a NCAA Title with Northern Arizona back in 1931. Cal State Northridge lost their coach after their great run. Texas Southern hired him. Fordham’s coach, Gary Moua retired. They hired Willie smith from Eastern Washington. Willie has a record of 184-104. Penn State’s coach, Quincy Wood has retired. John Holbrook is the new Penn State coach. Most recently he was an assistant with Bethune for the last 3 years, including the title last year. He has a record of 70-80 as a head coach with Elon.
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81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." |
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02-08-2004, 11:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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1949-1950
We have only six 5 star recruits this year. Two of them have declared for the draft. Two have committed to schools. #2 PG Chris Moyers, from Lombard, IL has committed to Duquesne. #6 SF Tony Sanderlin, from Brewer, ME has committed to Brown. The others: #3 PF Joseph Miller, from Hartsville, TN: Oakland, Bethune #5 PF Leonel McCormick, from Bethesda, MD: Oakland Pre Season Polls Code:
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02-09-2004, 05:38 AM
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General Manager
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chicago
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No issues with you taking over a team. If you want a real challenge, take over the dreadful Illini. RPI #307? Yikes!
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02-09-2004, 08:12 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Roseville, CA
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No issue here with you taking over a team. Take a Big 10 team and bring them to glory. Maybe that'll force Penn State to play better, though it hasn't helped in real life. That #53 class should help, though...
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02-09-2004, 10:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
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Hey marmel, i think you should take over a team...if you want a big challenge take over Arizona or Arizona State...it should be hell getting recruits with NAU there.
And would you also mind adding Missouri to the list of teams to follow...havent seen them in any poll/recruiting/anything...
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02-09-2004, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Is the Big East crappy enough that you could take over Syracuse and have a good challenge leading them to the top? I remember seeing the conference somewhere in the middle during the first few years but I haven't seen mention of it much lately.
I am loving following along the way things are going now, but if you are itching to take over a team then go for it! |
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02-09-2004, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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Mid Season Review
One of the two remaining recruits have decided upon a school: #5 PF Leonel McCormick has committed to Delaware State. The other one: #3 PF Joseph Miller has four teams on his list: St. Mary’s, Drake, Arkansas State, St. Bonnie Mid Season Polls Code:
UMASS 3-2, 10-7 Iowa 6-0, 14-2 Penn State 3-1, 11-5 Illinois 2-3, 5-11 Wichita State 5-3, 12-7 UTEP 5-3, 9-7
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02-09-2004, 01:52 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Regular Season Review
PF Joe Miller still has not decided upon a school. He has three options available to him, but he is being wishy-washy. Final Polls Code:
UMASS 5-11 (4th in East), 13-17, RPI 171 Missouri 8-8 (7th), 12-17, RPI 239 Penn State 13-3 (1st), 24-7, RPI 14, Won Big 10 conference tournament. Iowa 9-7 (T4th), 19-12, RPI 91 Illinois 6-10 (8th), 10-20, RPI 285 Wichita State10-8 (4th), 17-13, RPI 81 UTEP 10-8 (T2nd), 17-13, RPI 179 Points per game Code:
Bickford is an outgoing senior. He was ranked just 515 in 1945. He was a three year starter. Burcham is also a senior. He was ranked #69 in 1945. He started all four years. Rebounds per game Code:
Schrimsher is a senior and was ranked just #487 back in 1944. He only started his senior season. Burrow is only a junior. He was ranked #79 in 1945. He has started every game in his career so far. Assists per game Code:
Herd is a junior, but has declared for the draft. He was ranked #25 overall in 1946 and has started since his freshman year. Dunn is just a sophomore. He was ranked #15 overall in 1947. This is his first year as a starter and he averaged 14.2 points and 6.6 assists per game. Early Departures Code:
Brackets! West 1 Duquesne 2 Northern Arizona 3 Delaware State 4 Portland 9 Norfolk State 5 Penn State 10 Santa Clara 14 Washington 6 New Mexico State 11 Utah State This is a very deep, and very good bracket. One of the best in recent memory. Mid West 1 Fordham 2 Southern Illinois 3 Valparaiso 4 Drake 8 San Francisco 10 Sacramento State 11 Seton Hall Does this bracket scare anybody at all? South 1 Bethune 2 St. Mary’s 3 Georgia State 4 Penn 8 UMKC 9 Loyola 13 New Orleans Pretty average. Bethune should run through this bracket. East 1 Brown 2 Pepperdine 3 St. Joseph’s 4 Coppin State 8 IUPUI 9 Cal State Fullerton 5 St. Bonnie 12 Troy state 10 Yale 14 Georgia Southern 11 Campbell This is another very solid bracket, with a lot of depth.
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81-78 Cincinnati basketball writer P. Daugherty, "Connor Barwin playing several minutes against Syracuse is like kids with slingshots taking down Caesar's legions." |
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02-09-2004, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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First Round Highlights
No problems for any of the #1 seeds. Out of the four #2 seeds, I think it is fairly easy to predict which one went down in flames. Yep! #2 Northern Arizona lost to #15 Cincinnati in the West Region. Also in the West, #3 Delaware State lost to #14 Washington. The rest of the 3 seeds advanced. All of the 4 seeds advanced as well. Other notables: #8 IUPUI, #5 St. Bonnie, #10 Yale, #8 UMKC, #10 Wyoming, #8 San Francisco, #10 Sacramento State, #11 Seton Hall, #10 Santa Clara, #14 Washington, #6 New Mexico State Note: Penn State lost in the first round. Second Round highlights Today was not kind at all to the #1 seeds. We lost half of them! In the West, which is the big bracket buster region this year, #1 Duquesne lost to #8 San Diego State. In the East, #8 IUPUI beat #1 Brown. The remaining 2 seeds all advanced. The South Region saw us lose another 3 seed. #6 Marshall knocked off #3 Georgia State. This round was also a disaster for the 4 seeds. We lost all but one of them. #4 Penn was the only one to survive. #12 IPFW beat #4 Portland in the West. #12 Brigham Young beat #4 Drake in the Midwest. #5 St. Bonnie beat #4 Coppin State in the East. Other notables: #15 Cincinnati, #6 New Mexico State
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02-09-2004, 02:04 PM
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Sweet Sixteen Highlights
Starting in the West, #12 IPFW beats #8 San Diego State to advance. They will face #6 New Mexico State, who got by #15 Cincinnati. In the Midwest, #1 Fordham advanced with a win over #12 Brigham Young. They will face #3 Valparaiso, who beat #2 Southern Illinois. Moving to the South, #4 Penn knocks off heavy favorite and defending champs, Bethune-Cookman. #2 St. Mary’s advanced over #6 Marshall. In the East, #5 St. Bonnie beat #8 IUPUI and they will play #2 Pepperdine. Pepperdine beat #3 St. Josephs. Elite Eight Highlights In the East, #2 Pepperdine beats #5 St. Bonnie to earn their first ever Final Four trip. In the South, #4 Penn takes care of #2 St. Mary’s to advance. In the Midwest, our only #1 seed advanced. Fordham beat #3 Valpo. And in the West, #6 New Mexico State finally gets to the Final Four after many nice runs. They beat #12 IPFW.
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02-09-2004, 02:07 PM
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General Manager
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Town of Flower Mound
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I really hope NMSU loses...
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02-09-2004, 02:10 PM
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Location: Manchester, CT
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Final Four
NIT Results: Arkansas State beat Jacksonville The Match Ups #6 New Mexico State vs. #4 Penn #1 Fordham vs. #2 Pepperdine Game 1 was a defensive battle. Only 1 player from each team really was able to get free and score. For New Mexico State it was SG Alonzo Edelstein. Alonzo is a sophomore and was ranked #25 overall in 1947. He scored a game high 16 points. For Penn it was Senior SG Gary Peach. Peach was ranked #179 overall in 1945. He scored 13 and had 9 boards from the SG spot. In the end it was New Mexico’s defense that propelled them to a 61-51 victory. Game 2 was even more defensive. Fordham’s Senior C Keenan Munson had a great game with 12 points and 15 boards, but nobody else showed up for the #1 seed. Pepperdine had Senior SG Albert Jones, ranked #392 in 1944, playing out of positioon at the SF spot. He responded with just a game high 20 points in leading Pepperdine to the 58-48 victory. You expected more defense in the finals and that is what we got. True Freshman PG Wyatt Keenan, ranked #44 overall in 1948 led the Pepperdine team with 16 points. SG Albert Jones added 14. New Mexico got another good performance out of Alonzo Edelstein. He had 14, but it was not enough as Pepperdine takes the National Championship, 67-59!
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02-09-2004, 02:12 PM
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NCAA Tournament Champions
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Grambling 3 Northern Arizona 2 Santa Clara 2 Duquesne 2 Bethune-Cookman 2 Idaho 1 Arkansas State 1 Fordham 1 St. Bonaventure 1 Drake 1 Brown 1 Oakland 1 Sacramento State 1 Pepperdine Final Four Teams Code:
Northern Arizona 6 Duquesne 6 Grambling 3 Georgia State 3 Drake 3 Sacramento State 3 Bethune-Cookman 3 Washington 2 Canisius 2 Wichita State 2 Santa Clara 2 Troy State 2 South Carolina State 2 Loyola Marymount 2 Arkansas State 2 St. Bonaventure 2 Oakland 2 Cal State Northridge 2 Fordham 2 Idaho 1 Prairie View A&M 1 Howard 1 Seton Hall 1 Central Michigan 1 Boston University 1 Akron 1 LaSalle 1 Arizona 1 Texas 1 Cal Poly 1 UMKC 1 Villanova 1 San Francisco 1 St. Joseph’s 1 Norfolk State 1 Eastern Washington 1 IUPUI 1 Denver 1 Delaware State 1 Indiana State 1 Brown 1 St. Mary’s 1 Texas Southern 1 Montana 1 Southern Illinois 1 Pepperdine 1 New Mexico State 1 Pennsylvania 1
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02-09-2004, 02:37 PM
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College Starter
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Burlington, VT USA
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The Fightin Waves of Pepperdine.
*sniff* damn aggies. |
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02-09-2004, 02:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Manchester, CT
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Off Season
The West win two in a row in the All Star Game Code:
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Stansberry is an out going senior. He won a Title last year this year the Player of the Year. Not bad for 5 years of school. Bogart is a true freshman and was ranked #136 overall last year. He averaged over 18 points per game this year. Laurence only took Pepperdine to a National Title after 2 years of no post season appearances, and no NCAA appearances since 1944! Recruiting Rankings Code:
Brown ends up with the #1 class for the second straight year. This year they got 6, 18, 39, 8 and 10. Bethune landed: 16, 28, 29, 25, 35 and two walk-ons in the top 1000. Top Conferences Atlantic 10 Big Sky Ivy Mid-Eastern Athletic Missouri Valley Mountain west West Coast Others: Big East 3 Big 12 1 Big 10 2 WAC 2 Top Teams Bethune 79 Brown 79 Duquesne 78 Oakland 75 St. Mary’s 75 Northern Arizona 74 Drake 73 Wichita State 64 Iowa 35 Penn State 34 UMASS 32 UTEP 31 Missouri 26 Illinois 17
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02-09-2004, 02:43 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Roseville, CA
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Man, the Lions can't get out the first round. Sounds like back when I was playing...except the year we beat UCLA.
Hey Marmel, ever thought of putting us in the game on the team we wanted to follow? |
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