Werewolf CXXVIII - The Original Werewolves - VILLAGERS WIN - Page 5

Lathum · 03-23-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So you going to change your vote then?

No, really see no compelling reason to.

JAG · 03-23-2011, 05:47 PM

Are people feeling like we had four villagers on the block (not counting mckerney with one vote)? That would be the main reason I would think to vote the early voters. If you think that though (and I suspect it might be the case), then I think mckerney makes an interesting vote as he never got a sniff after he was a reasonable option with the vote 2-2-1-1-1. If you do think a wolf was on the block, in my opinion you should be voting Saldana or dwardzala, as they were the ones to put either DV or Jackal way behind Zinto in the voting. I'd rather not vote mckerney though because he's been one of the few actually posting, so I'm open to other thoughts.

Barkeep49 · 03-23-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dwardzala

I'm not getting much of a read on anybody as of yet, although Danny's move off of Zinto to make it a "closer" race yesterday isn't sitting right with me. I'm not prepared to make him a third candidate yet.

I didn't like his play yesterday either. Knowing there will be a second vote for it

Vote Danny

Barkeep49 · 03-23-2011, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

Are people feeling like we had four villagers on the block (not counting mckerney with one vote)? That would be the main reason I would think to vote the early voters. If you think that though (and I suspect it might be the case), then I think mckerney makes an interesting vote as he never got a sniff after he was a reasonable option with the vote 2-2-1-1-1. If you do think a wolf was on the block, in my opinion you should be voting Saldana or dwardzala, as they were the ones to put either DV or Jackal way behind Zinto in the voting. I'd rather not vote mckerney though because he's been one of the few actually posting, so I'm open to other thoughts.

The odds of that statistically (assuming 3 wolves) would be 38%. So odds are 1 of them is a wolf, but it's not a for sure sort of thing.

Barkeep49 · 03-23-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

No, really see no compelling reason to.

Just making sure I understand:

You vote for a person for a reason which turns out to be incorrect. Rather than correct your mistake you decide to let inertia reign?

Lathum · 03-23-2011, 06:20 PM

Why is it a mistake to vote him? Maybe my logic was a little flawed, but that doesn't change the fact that on D2 we don't have much to go on and he had a decent number of votes. Enough that he easily could have emerged as a candidate and didn't.

why are you so keen to hone in on that one vote.

Barkeep49 · 03-23-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Why is it a mistake to vote him? Maybe my logic was a little flawed, but that doesn't change the fact that on D2 we don't have much to go on and he had a decent number of votes. Enough that he easily could have emerged as a candidate and didn't.

why are you so keen to hone in on that one vote.

Not particularly keen, just interested in the thought process that goes on.

Lathum · 03-23-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Not particularly keen, just interested in the thought process that goes on.

There realy isn't much of one.

mckerney · 03-23-2011, 06:53 PM

Vote The Jackal

With nothing really to go on I'll stick with my vote from yesterday and hope that his 5th vote on Zinto was to protect a wolf who was on the block.

The Jackal · 03-23-2011, 06:55 PM

I didn't even really want to vote for Zinto, I said all along I thought DV was a better candidate. I ended up doing it for self-defense, I guess, though no one made any indication they were going to move.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dwardzala

I'm not getting much of a read on anybody as of yet, although Danny's move off of Zinto to make it a "closer" race yesterday isn't sitting right with me. I'm not prepared to make him a third candidate yet.

You can vote me for it, but I would make that move every single time in WW. A close vote tells us more than a runaway, especially on early days. From what I saw yesterday, I'd guess it's more likely the wolves made early to mid votes and stuck with them.

dwardzala · 03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I didn't like his play yesterday either. Knowing there will be a second vote for it

Vote Danny

Since I'm not the only one whose thinking this

Vote Danny

Autumn · 03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

Vote count as of post 211

JAG 1 - Lathum (175)
Darth Vilus 2 - The Jackal (180), J23 (190)
Danny 1 - Barkeep49 (203)
The Jackal 1 - Mckerney (209)

JAG · 03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The odds of that statistically (assuming 3 wolves) would be 38%. So odds are 1 of them is a wolf, but it's not a for sure sort of thing.

I'm not disputing your percentage, but can you tell me how you got to 38%?

Since I can eliminate myself as a suspect, the percentage is less favorable from my perspective.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I didn't like his play yesterday either. Knowing there will be a second vote for it

Vote Danny

Not sure I like the latter part of your post which tends to place the responsibility of your vote at least partially on Dward. There was only three total votes at the time you posted this. If you felt I was a good vote, you should have done so regardless.

Autumn · 03-23-2011, 07:17 PM

Vote count as of post 213

JAG 1 - Lathum (175)
Darth Vilus 2 - The Jackal (180), J23 (190)
Danny 2 - Barkeep49 (203), dwardzala (212)
The Jackal 1 - Mckerney (209)

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:19 PM

BK seems to be playing very confrontational thus far. I'd guess he might be the cultist as that is a strong way to play the role.

JAG · 03-23-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

You can vote me for it, but I would make that move every single time in WW. A close vote tells us more than a runaway, especially on early days. From what I saw yesterday, I'd guess it's more likely the wolves made early to mid votes and stuck with them.

I agree, I think that's a villagerish move. If one of the people on the block was a wolf, it would put pressure on the wolves. I don't see what a wolf would gain from doing it.

JAG · 03-23-2011, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

BK seems to be playing very confrontational thus far. I'd guess he might be the cultist as that is a strong way to play the role.

Interesting thought. Although that probably doesn't paint me favorably if true.

saldana · 03-23-2011, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

If you do think a wolf was on the block, in my opinion you should be voting Saldana or dwardzala, as they were the ones to put either DV or Jackal way behind Zinto in the voting.

i put zinto ahead by one with 5 hours til deadline??!!!

i love when people make shit up to try to get me lynched

vote JAG

saldana · 03-23-2011, 07:25 PM

dola, i just got done working today, havent eaten yet, and have to clean my whole house for company coming tomorrow..i doubt i will be back tonight...sorry..my job is brutal right now.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:38 PM

Vote Jackal I want to see where it goes from here.

JAG · 03-23-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by saldana

i put zinto ahead by one with 5 hours til deadline??!!!

i love when people make shit up to try to get me lynched

vote JAG

Effectively you put him up by two unless you thought I was going to move my vote due to the tiebreaker. Do you really dispute the logic that if a wolf was on the block that the later votes on Zinto look more suspicious?

Honestly your reaction is so over the top and I have so little else to go on, voting you is as good as anything.

Vote saldana

JAG · 03-23-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Vote Jackal I want to see where it goes from here.

I don't know how seriously you're entertaining BK = cultist, but if so, he had the second vote on Jackal yesterday.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JAG

I don't know how seriously you're entertaining BK = cultist, but if so, he had the second vote on Jackal yesterday.

I seriously doubt my vote will stick on Jackal. But I want to see where things go with the close vote we have now.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn

Final Vote Count

Zinto 5 - JAG (52), Darth Vilus (81), saldana (93), dwardzala (94), The Jackal (128)
JAG 3 - Lathum (61), mauboy (84), Danny (96)
Darth Vilus 2 - Zinto (70), Chief Rum (83)
The Jackal 3 - mckerney (66), Barkeep49 (82), bhlloy (85)
Mckerney 1 - J23 (78)

Quoted to put it on current page for my reference.

Danny · 03-23-2011, 07:52 PM

The initial group of names I wanted to look at were JAG, Darth and Saldana as the first three Zinto voters with unchanged votes. Since all three have votes, I will probably end up switching to one of those three.

Darth Vilus · 03-23-2011, 08:09 PM

I've been entertaining the idea of voting either JAG or Saldana (I forgot to mention him earlier), now i can choose between the two.

Vote Saldana

Let's see if we can get a wolf today

Danny · 03-23-2011, 08:10 PM

That vote makes me feel a bit better about you. I think a wolf puts a vote on one of the other three 2 vote candidates.

The Jackal · 03-23-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

That vote makes me feel a bit better about you. I think a wolf puts a vote on one of the other three 2 vote candidates.

This is true, and it's making me think about switching as well.

Darth Vilus · 03-23-2011, 08:26 PM

Well FWIW (not much) I'm an ordinary villager this time around

Chief Rum · 03-23-2011, 08:37 PM

Mauboy's comment yesterday when making his vote still throws me off, and I would vote him if he was a candidate. But right now, he's not and I may not be able to check back in before deadline.

So I'll go with my vote from yesterday.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:37 PM

so we have four people tied at two votes a piece? Boy, my vote is going to either look real good or real bad.

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Mauboy's comment yesterday when making his vote still throws me off, and I would vote him if he was a candidate. But right now, he's not and I may not be able to check back in before deadline.

So I'll go with my vote from yesterday.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

And what comment was that?

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Mauboy's comment yesterday when making his vote still throws me off, and I would vote him if he was a candidate. But right now, he's not and I may not be able to check back in before deadline.

So I'll go with my vote from yesterday.

VOTE DARTH VILUS

My gut feeling post about if it's the right feeling or a need to take a shit? I was just trying to make a funny. I should have quoted who I was talking about. Off the top of my head, it was Danny who had a gut feeling. Gut feelings on day one is the only thing you really have to go off of. Sorry if it came off wrong, CR.

Autumn · 03-23-2011, 08:44 PM

Vote count as of post 235

2 JAG - Lathum (175), saldana (220)
3 Darth Vilus - The Jackal (180), J23 (190), Chief Rum (232)
2 Danny - Barkeep49 (203), dwardzala (212)
2 The Jackal - Mckerney (209), Danny (222)
2 Saldana - JAG (223), Darth Vilus (228)

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:51 PM

Just re-read the last two pages. There are definitely some weird vibes going on with a few people. Quick defensive posts, odd posts, etc.

I like saldana, bk, j23. danny, jag and dv as my possibilities at this point just based on what I've seen early on. If I go with JAG, danny, saldana or jackal i create a top two tie so obviously my vote is somewhat important.

dwardzala · 03-23-2011, 08:51 PM

Well we got a tight race here - whose gonna jump (and what does it mean)?

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:52 PM

And yes, I understand the tie breaking rules.

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:56 PM

Ehhh.............

vote jackal

Lathum · 03-23-2011, 08:57 PM

Christ the vote is spread out

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 08:57 PM

As far as Chief goes, I've been married to him two of the last three games and he still doesn't trust me!

Danny · 03-23-2011, 09:32 PM

Unvote Jackal

Danny · 03-23-2011, 09:32 PM

Vote Saldana

Tough choice between Jag and Saldana here.

Darth Vilus · 03-23-2011, 09:36 PM

deadline is in 1/2hr?

dwardzala · 03-23-2011, 09:36 PM

Interesting move Danny.

Now DV can't save himself with a vote for Jackal. Now, what does it mean?

Danny · 03-23-2011, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dwardzala

Interesting move Danny.

Now DV can't save himself with a vote for Jackal. Now, what does it mean?

Still time, I expect some more movement.

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dwardzala

Interesting move Danny.

Now DV can't save himself with a vote for Jackal. Now, what does it mean?

Danny's vote did nothing unless someone else changes their vote. If he was really choosing between JAG and Saldana and wanted to feel like making a difference, the vote should have gone JAG as it would have been the leader to be lynched. A vote on Saldana is hiding and forcing someone else to make the move.

mauchow · 03-23-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Still time, I expect some more movement.

Which is what I figured you were doing. But still only 20 minutes isn't a lot of time for movement.

saldana · 03-23-2011, 09:43 PM

gotta for self defense at this point

unvote jag
vote darth

03-23-2011, 08:09 PM	#228
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	I've been entertaining the idea of voting either JAG or Saldana (I forgot to mention him earlier), now i can choose between the two. Vote Saldana Let's see if we can get a wolf today __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

03-23-2011, 08:26 PM	#231
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Well FWIW (not much) I'm an ordinary villager this time around __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

03-23-2011, 08:37 PM	#232
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Mauboy's comment yesterday when making his vote still throws me off, and I would vote him if he was a candidate. But right now, he's not and I may not be able to check back in before deadline. So I'll go with my vote from yesterday. VOTE DARTH VILUS __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-23-2011, 09:36 PM	#245
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	deadline is in 1/2hr? __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

03-23-2011, 05:47 PM	#202
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	Are people feeling like we had four villagers on the block (not counting mckerney with one vote)? That would be the main reason I would think to vote the early voters. If you think that though (and I suspect it might be the case), then I think mckerney makes an interesting vote as he never got a sniff after he was a reasonable option with the vote 2-2-1-1-1. If you do think a wolf was on the block, in my opinion you should be voting Saldana or dwardzala, as they were the ones to put either DV or Jackal way behind Zinto in the voting. I'd rather not vote mckerney though because he's been one of the few actually posting, so I'm open to other thoughts.

03-23-2011, 06:20 PM	#206
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Why is it a mistake to vote him? Maybe my logic was a little flawed, but that doesn't change the fact that on D2 we don't have much to go on and he had a decent number of votes. Enough that he easily could have emerged as a candidate and didn't. why are you so keen to hone in on that one vote.

03-23-2011, 06:53 PM	#209
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Vote The Jackal With nothing really to go on I'll stick with my vote from yesterday and hope that his 5th vote on Zinto was to protect a wolf who was on the block.

03-23-2011, 06:55 PM	#210
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I didn't even really want to vote for Zinto, I said all along I thought DV was a better candidate. I ended up doing it for self-defense, I guess, though no one made any indication they were going to move.

03-23-2011, 07:17 PM	#213
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Vote count as of post 211 JAG 1 - Lathum (175) Darth Vilus 2 - The Jackal (180), J23 (190) Danny 1 - Barkeep49 (203) The Jackal 1 - Mckerney (209)

03-23-2011, 07:17 PM	#216
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Vote count as of post 213 JAG 1 - Lathum (175) Darth Vilus 2 - The Jackal (180), J23 (190) Danny 2 - Barkeep49 (203), dwardzala (212) The Jackal 1 - Mckerney (209)

03-23-2011, 07:19 PM	#217
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	BK seems to be playing very confrontational thus far. I'd guess he might be the cultist as that is a strong way to play the role.

03-23-2011, 07:25 PM	#221
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, i just got done working today, havent eaten yet, and have to clean my whole house for company coming tomorrow..i doubt i will be back tonight...sorry..my job is brutal right now.

03-23-2011, 07:38 PM	#222
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Jackal I want to see where it goes from here.

03-23-2011, 07:52 PM	#227
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	The initial group of names I wanted to look at were JAG, Darth and Saldana as the first three Zinto voters with unchanged votes. Since all three have votes, I will probably end up switching to one of those three.

03-23-2011, 08:10 PM	#229
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	That vote makes me feel a bit better about you. I think a wolf puts a vote on one of the other three 2 vote candidates.

03-23-2011, 08:37 PM	#233
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	so we have four people tied at two votes a piece? Boy, my vote is going to either look real good or real bad.

03-23-2011, 08:44 PM	#236
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Vote count as of post 235 2 JAG - Lathum (175), saldana (220) 3 Darth Vilus - The Jackal (180), J23 (190), Chief Rum (232) 2 Danny - Barkeep49 (203), dwardzala (212) 2 The Jackal - Mckerney (209), Danny (222) 2 Saldana - JAG (223), Darth Vilus (228)

03-23-2011, 08:51 PM	#237
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Just re-read the last two pages. There are definitely some weird vibes going on with a few people. Quick defensive posts, odd posts, etc. I like saldana, bk, j23. danny, jag and dv as my possibilities at this point just based on what I've seen early on. If I go with JAG, danny, saldana or jackal i create a top two tie so obviously my vote is somewhat important.

03-23-2011, 08:51 PM	#238
dwardzala H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004	Well we got a tight race here - whose gonna jump (and what does it mean)?

03-23-2011, 08:52 PM	#239
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	And yes, I understand the tie breaking rules.

03-23-2011, 08:56 PM	#240
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Ehhh............. vote jackal

03-23-2011, 08:57 PM	#241
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Christ the vote is spread out

03-23-2011, 08:57 PM	#242
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	As far as Chief goes, I've been married to him two of the last three games and he still doesn't trust me!

03-23-2011, 09:32 PM	#243
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Jackal

03-23-2011, 09:32 PM	#244
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Vote Saldana Tough choice between Jag and Saldana here.

03-23-2011, 09:36 PM	#246
dwardzala H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2004	Interesting move Danny. Now DV can't save himself with a vote for Jackal. Now, what does it mean?

03-23-2011, 09:43 PM	#250
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	gotta for self defense at this point unvote jag vote darth

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