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Old 08-15-2005, 07:17 PM   #201
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Well here's the problem we are going to run into during the coming days, especially without the Witness(which I have been assuming is a seer role).

2 or 3 days from now there is probably going to be a couple mafia members with VERY little dirt on them and they may be active. Someone may vote them on a hunch, non mafia members should do their best not to jump over this guy.

Only reason I say this is because if people are to scared to post their hunches, for fear of being bandwagoned against, then all we will vote on pretty much is voting record and quickness to vote against an ally. I've seen bad guys ace this test(Fozzie comes to mind), this can't be the only thing to rely on.

Just wanted to get that out there, it's not meant to be a commentary on today at all.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:19 PM   #202
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Jeez, hard name to type. Is that on purpose?
After about 20 minutes trying to come up with a name that wasnt taken for an online game, I hit the keyboard in anger.

I've been out all day, so not too much time to think things over sadly.

vote illinifan999

All I have is that youre quite quick to defend sack, which is a bit suspicious to me.

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Old 08-15-2005, 07:23 PM   #203
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I'm quick to defend anyone who seems to be helping our cause by putting ideas out there. Except for dubb who was way to quick on sack for helping.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:25 PM   #204
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After about 20 minutes trying to come up with a name that wasnt taken for an online game, I hit the keyboard in anger.

I've been out all day, so not too much time to think things over sadly.

vote illinifan999

All I have is that youre quite quick to defend sack, which is a bit suspicious to me.

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Your 2nd and 4th sentences seem to reflect one another quite nicely.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:28 PM   #205
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Your 2nd and 4th sentences seem to reflect one another quite nicely.

Wait the "ive been out all day" and the reasoning to my vote? I skimmed through the posts before I made my decision

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Old 08-15-2005, 07:29 PM   #206
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eh.

Vote Fouts

He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:30 PM   #207
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eh.

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He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.

You described me to a T. I'm not much of an analyst. Just a lucky duke.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:32 PM   #208
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Wait the "ive been out all day" and the reasoning to my vote? I skimmed through the posts before I made my decision

-Aes

An hour and a half to go, and you're going to skim rather than read carefully before deciding who to lynch, though?

I'm not accusing you of anything, but it seems weird that you would vote to lynch based on illini defending me without reading through to see what's happened since.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:32 PM   #209
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I'm not really thinking analytically when I say substance. Really more about taking some sort of stance, either against someone or for someone.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:33 PM   #210
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:39 PM   #211
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An hour and a half to go, and you're going to skim rather than read carefully before deciding who to lynch, though?

I'm not accusing you of anything, but it seems weird that you would vote to lynch based on illini defending me without reading through to see what's happened since.
I've only got about 15 minutes on the computer before I go out and eat, I don't know when I'll be back so I had to vote for someone. I do wish I had more time to read up on things and make my vote closer to the deadline though.

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Old 08-15-2005, 07:50 PM   #212
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eh.

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He's playing a rather careful game. Decent amount of posts, not much substance.

Survival? I'd like to stick around for awhile this time. If not, that's cool.
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:53 PM   #213
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Yeah I know, it sucks. The guys that bandwagon look for the things I generally ignore .
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Old 08-15-2005, 07:58 PM   #214
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vote dubb93

The way I see it, his vote for me goes one of three ways:

1) He's a mafioso, and playing like one: targeting the active voices to intimidate others into staying quiet rather than risk being a target.

2) He isn't one, and like the rest of us, he's grasping at straws.

3) He IS a mafioso, but is trying to seem like he's grasping at straws to deflect attention.

I hope #2 isn't the case, but absent any more likely candidates so far, I'm going to cast my ballot in his direction and hope #1 or #3 are the case.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:02 PM   #215
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Well, I'm pretty sure jeff and sack are villagers, but I don't see anything compelling me to change my vote. Without anything substantial, we're all grasping at straws.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:03 PM   #216
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With a lack of a seer we need to spark confrontation, I think.
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:26 PM   #217
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It has been an hour and the deadline is coming up, so I'm gonna vote for the quietest guy. Assuming the bad guys wanna stay low in the first couple days to avoid suspicion.

I vote Aesyrqwe

Jeez, hard name to type. Is that on purpose?

I agree, I voted for him yesterday and I'm gonna stay consistent today Vote Aesyrqwe
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Old 08-15-2005, 08:55 PM   #218
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With a lack of a seer we need to spark confrontation, I think.

Just ask, apparently im quite good at that
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:00 PM   #219
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Unvote Sackattack

Vote Shorty3281

Edited to add a reason.

My first vote for Sack was based on no real information, and this vote for Shorty is based on no information either, but he called us a group of idiots earlier so I think he's a little fishy.

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:25 PM   #220
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Time to go to my final class of the day, a 3 hour Shakespearean interlude.

Mondays are gonna suck this semester.

Hope we get a Mafioso tonight!
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:26 PM   #221
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Alright, back early, my saying that you voted for Realdeal and threatened Bug had nothing to do with my suspecision of you. It was the fact that you had done very little so far, yet when someone voted for you 2 other people came up fast asking how someone could vote for you when you had proved you were a villager.

When I read that I went through and read again b/c to be honest I hadn't remembered a single one of your posts, so I went through, seen you had said little of note and assumed that the 2 people covering for you that you were obviously a villager were backing you for little reason. I MAY be just grasping at straws, but 3 people banding together and claiming that one of them is obviously a villager at a point when I see nothing to prove it smells fishy to me. That is the reason for the vote Sack, not anything you have done so far.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:28 PM   #222
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Alright, back early, my saying that you voted for Realdeal and threatened Bug had nothing to do with my suspecision of you. It was the fact that you had done very little so far, yet when someone voted for you 2 other people came up fast asking how someone could vote for you when you had proved you were a villager.

When I read that I went through and read again b/c to be honest I hadn't remembered a single one of your posts, so I went through, seen you had said little of note and assumed that the 2 people covering for you that you were obviously a villager were backing you for little reason. I'm MAY be just grasping at straws, but 3 people banding together and claiming that one of them is obviously a villager at a point when I see nothing to prove it smells fishy to me. That is the reason for the vote Sack, not anything you have done so far.

The claims of obvious villagerhood came after I posted a PM,which I didn't realize I was supposed to do, and quickly retracted. The retraction is why you don't see anything pointing to that.

But the fishy smell is probably just my clothes. I'm just a simple villager, after all!

Later, everybody!
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:29 PM   #223
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The claims of obvious villagerhood came after I posted a PM,which I didn't realize I was supposed to do, and quickly retracted. The retraction is why you don't see anything pointing to that.

That would probably be it, can anyone else back up what he is saying here?
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:30 PM   #224
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Just look a page back, the PM itself gone, but the situation is still there.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:31 PM   #225
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I never claimed he was a villager, I just said we shouldn't be quick to vote off someone who was helping our cause.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:32 PM   #226
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dola

I never saw the PM so I can't honestly tell you, I just think we need to keep on people who throw out some discussion.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:35 PM   #227
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Alright can anyone come up with the vote count real quick and are we past the deadline?

If not

Unvote Sackattack

Vote Bek


He's done nothing.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:41 PM   #228
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jeff just isn't sounding very safe. He made that first vote of the entire thing and argued that it didn't matter if we lost an innocent villager because he had a personality.

For conduct detrimental to the villagers, I vote jeff061

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:44 PM   #229
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Aesyrqwe(3)- MrBug708, Fouts, Pennywisesb
Blade(2)- Bek, Ardent
Bearcat729(2)- SnDvls, Blade
Fouts(2)- Digamma, Jeff061
Dubb93(2)- Illinifan999, SackAttack
Illinifan999(1)- Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281(1)- Bearcat729
Bek(1)- Dubb93
Jeff061(1)- Shorty3281
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:46 PM   #230
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Sigh.

What you just said is not what happened and not what I said. Think it through a little Shorty. Real had just as much chance of being mafia as anyone else. If I had a bead on anyone else, anything at all I would of gone after them. If I knew that Real was a villager I would of picked someone else, likely randomly.

It's day one voting. There is no good reason to vote on anyone.

And, the deadline passed 45 minutes ago.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:48 PM   #231
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And, the deadline passed 45 minutes ago.

Thats what I was looking for, so 9 EDT, would be 8 here. Thanks.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:49 PM   #232
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But I understand what you're thinking, I have a similar attitude about that kind of thing .
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:53 PM   #233
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:55 PM   #234
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Aesyrqwe(3)- MrBug708, Fouts, Pennywisesb
Blade(2)- Bek, Ardent
Bearcat729(2)- SnDvls, Blade
Fouts(2)- Digamma, Jeff061
Dubb93(2)- Illinifan999, SackAttack
Illinifan999(1)- Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281(1)- Bearcat729
Bek(1)- Dubb93
Jeff061(1)- Shorty3281

One thing this vote tells me is, we have no idea and no cohesion. I think we're going to need some help dividing the people up.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:13 PM   #235
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Deadline was at 9PM EDT. Votes later than that will not count.

Aesyrqwe - MrBug708, Fouts, pennywiseweb
Blade6119 - Bek, ardent enthusiast
SackAttack - dubb93
Bearcat729 - SnDvls, Blade6119
Fouts - digamma, jeff061
dubb93 - illinifan999, SackAttack
illinifan999 - Aesyrqwe
Shorty3281 - Bearcat729

Uncounted votes:
dubb93 switches from SackAttack to Bek
Shorty3281 votes for jeff061
Schmidty votes for Shorty3281

You all argue about who to kill today. Until at the end of the day, you finally decide to gang up on Aesyrqwe. It is a bloody sight as his screams fill the slaughter shed. Soon, all that's left of him is ke-bob. You all head to his room... look around, and see that he's nothing suspicious. Aesyrqwe was a Villager!

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1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. RealDeal - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. Mr. Wednesday - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Night (2) has begun! Kindly send in your night actions as soon as possible. Deadline is 9AM EDT.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:19 PM   #236
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Damn, there goes my theory of bad guys laying low. Sorry about that Aesyrqwe.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:22 PM   #237
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So yet again back to square 1 with very little to go on.
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:54 PM   #238
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Damn, there went a villager...
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Old 08-15-2005, 10:55 PM   #239
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Damn, there goes my theory of bad guys laying low. Sorry about that Aesyrqwe.

Damnit. I ditto this comment. I figured the best thing the mafioso could do would be to lay low. Apparently I've been fooled.
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:02 PM   #240
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Who says they aren't laying low? The voting was spread out enough that we won't be able to tell further until a few days later...
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:03 PM   #241
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:11 PM   #242
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:19 PM   #243
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Well that was a mess, now who wants to admit they are with the mafia?
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:47 PM   #244
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Old 08-15-2005, 11:55 PM   #245
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You all wake up, dreading what could be waiting for you in the morning. Who would be dead? As you all head to the village square, you see that everyone is still alive. You feel uneasy... noone died last night? This could be a portent of good things, or bad things. The Mafia is among you, you know this... and so you must kill one more today.

Current Players:
1. dubb93
2. ardent enthusiast
3. SackAttack
4. Fouts
5. RealDeal - Villager, Lynched Day 1
6. Bearcat729
7. illinifan999
8. MrBug708
9. SnDvls
10. Mr. Wednesday - Witness, Killed By Mafia Night 1
11. digamma
12. bek
13. Aesyrqwe - Villager, Lynched Day 2
14. Shorty3281
15. pennywisesb
16. Schmidty
17. Blade6119
18. jeff061

Day (3) has begun! Votes are due at 9PM EDT.
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:00 AM   #246
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You all wake up, dreading what could be waiting for you in the morning. Who would be dead? As you all head to the village square, you see that everyone is still alive. You feel uneasy... noone died last night? This could be a portent of good things, or bad things. The Mafia is among you, you know this... and so you must kill one more today.

Day (3) has begun! Votes are due at 9PM EDT.

Sounds like we got bribing going on...crap, now we could have as many as four...im hesitent to post my views though because ill get lynched afterwards like last game
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:03 AM   #247
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especially without the Witness(which I have been assuming is a seer role).

The witness could one time only view the night killing and discover the indentity of one mafia member...on the downside, they would all know who he was...he wasnt our seer, but he was useful
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:04 AM   #248
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There's bribing? Maybe someone had a special event where they cancelled out the kill?
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:06 AM   #249
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Sounds like we got bribing going on...crap, now we could have as many as four...im hesitent to post my views though because ill get lynched afterwards like last game

I was thinking they found the lost son..though a bribe fits. Wasn't there bribes in the last game?
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Old 08-16-2005, 12:07 AM   #250
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Or else the Mafia figured "Hell, they aren't onto us yet anyway, why risk exposing ourselves? Let 'em do it themselves."

(Can they do that?)
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