WW CXLIX SPAWN IV - GAME OVER (Post 3845)

[Chubby]

I get to bring additional slaves if I supervise as well I think

[Autumn]

If we had Chief+Engineer working on conversion, and two Engineers with 4 person team as well, we've occupied 12 people, produced 14 cycles of work.

[Autumn]

So if one of the Engineers ran a slave team, along with Chubby, they would do 5 cycles of work for 2 AP.

[Autumn]

Check my math on all this. ANd I'm not sur what it proves. But I've got to run out for a bit.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by JAG

Gah, that's horrible. We have a hell of a lot of ground and people to protect.

That being the case, I would hope the Spawnling % are lower this time than in previous games since there are more outlets to become a Spawnling.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by JAG

From BK's write-up, we have detected spawn in the vicinity with Schmidty's device and we're leaving due to a couple of deaths from spawn, so it seems unlikely we don't have any to start. So if that's the only reason not to, then we should be executing without question.

Agreed. That also makes me feel better about post review today ... that there would be potential to find something damning, as opposed to it being a wasted day for analysis on top of votes.

[Abe Sargent]

Morni ng alll

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

"
The re-emergence of the Spawn had always been considered. It was why so many of those present and who had been mined had also been cross trained in other areas. Now the decision had been made by Captain Jag and Second Officer Girl to make one of the few pure Miners, Abe Sergant into the trainer.

I'll be the best trainee ever!

[JAG]

Ok, to get a preliminary idea of what we want people to do today, I'm copying BK's post and putting thoughts by people's names. As a quick summary, since the security personnel have a lot of ground to cover, I think they should not be involved in the conversion work and saldana's role is awfully important as well so I don't think he should do that work either. This is partly to figure out if we want one or two teams of slaves with the engineers.

The Crew

Command Staff
Captain - JAG - 1/3 APs for designating Abe's training, unsure of other 2AP, may depend on whether all people check in.
First Officer - Autumn - Organizing away missions.
Second Officer - Lonestargirl - reassigning miner to ... galley master?
Security Chief - Packerfantic - doing security-type stuff
Ensign - Zinto - candidate to do conversion work

Chief Engineer - hoopsguy - working with an engineer on conversion work
Engineers --- 0-1 supervising groups of people, 1-2 supervising groups of slaves, 1 working with hoops.
Crimson
Darth
Simbo

Medical Staff
Doctor - saldana -- checking someone

Security Staff --- doing security-type stuff
Sergeant at Arms - Danny
Slavemaster - Chubby
Security Crewman - Chief Rum
Security Crewman - dubb

Scientists
Schmidty --- candidate for conversion work
Britrock88--- will help train Abe to be a trainer

Miners

Shiggles - candidate for conversion work
Julio - be assigned to galley master?
mauboy - candidate for conversion work
Abe Sargent - will be trained as trainer


Of course dependent on whether or not someone is executed.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Can I, as a scientist, train with Abe at night?

Bow chicka chicka bow bow!

[Julio Riddols]

Checking in, catching up.

[Barkeep49]

A reminder that if you want to actually do something you need to PM me. For public roles in most cases that will then result in my posting in the thread stating what you are doing. So far no one has done anything. This might be intentional as you get your bearings, but wanted to point this out. Also please remember that away missions must be done by 6 PM.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Given your new situation, the Command Staff gathers to begin to prepare for your exit. They emerge agreeing that while no trainer is yet present, having one would be useful. The scientists inform them that there is a way for a new trainer to be trained. If a player spends 4 cycles (Day or Night) in training, assisted in at least 2 of those cycles by a scientist, it will be possible for a person to become familiar enough with the training equipment to use it.

It's now up to the Second Officer and Captain to decide who, if anyone, that trainer may be.

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BK, do I need to tell you if I want to spend Day 1 in training my pm or in this thread?

[Abe Sargent]

You just posted as I was creating my question. Heh

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, since the Trainer needs four cycles and only two scientists to help for two of those, I'll submit for Day One training on my account and the scientists can go elsewhere for the action. Then at night someone can come help.

[Barkeep49]

Abe Sargent is pleased by the opportunity afford him and eagerly begins to read technical manuals so he will understanding how to work the trainer's equipment.

[Chief Rum]

Security crewman and all around asshole Chief Rum checking in. I am a Chief by name, not rank. If you presume I am an officer, I will stick my hand so far up your ass, you'll think you're Spawned.

Okay, obviously, this ruleset is crazy huge. It is to the point where simply trying to capture it all and dumb it down to a WW strategy is virtually impossible. It is simply too huge of a ruleset.

As such, I would recommend we all take the mindset that we really are making real life decisions in a colony-camp and Spawn, with an eye toward attaining the goal of getting the ship built. I am not saying we should not be searching for Spawn, but I definitely think we should concentrate on our work on the ship.

I do think some of us should keep an eye on the "numbers"--the WW strategy. But the rest of us should concentrate on how to best do our jobs, as the Captain sees fit.

[Chief Rum]

Captain JAG, if there is an away mission, I would like to volunteer for it, and to serve it as a guard.

[Chief Rum]

Security Chief PackerFanatic, I would humbly recommend you advise Sergeant-at-Arms Danny to distribute phasers to all security personell (and only security personnell--outside of officers' needs of course).

[Julio Riddols]

Since we mostly start in building D, maybe working on converting that is a safe bet early on too. Keep from going outside for a bit til we get our feet as wet as possible.

I like the idea of converting the 3 storage buildings too, since we can't make use of them anyway.

I'm still finding myself re-reading things to make sure it all makes sense, but the above are my early thoughts.

[Chubby]

20 players, 19 available phasers. Does this ping anyone else?

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Chubby

20 players, 19 available phasers. Does this ping anyone else?

Are you suggesting there is a 20th phaser that is unaccounted for?

[Julio Riddols]

My hands are aching to do some work in the mean time between now and whenever I get any possible promotion.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Are you suggesting there is a 20th phaser that is unaccounted for?

I'm suggesting nothing, just an observation that some may have missed. Is there a 20th phaser? Is there only 19 because there is one amongst us who doesn't need a phaser?

[JAG]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Okay, since the Trainer needs four cycles and only two scientists to help for two of those, I'll submit for Day One training on my account and the scientists can go elsewhere for the action. Then at night someone can come help.

One of the scientists should probably assist you today (and maybe one tonight but then they will be exhausted and more vulnerable to attack, so I don't know if that's a great idea), because we're going to want then to go on away missions after today.

[Abe Sargent]

Okay, I submitted my order to BK to train today, so I can't be in nay missions, and if a scientist wants to jump abroad, you can pm him too I assume, BK let us know if I am wrong

[LoneStarGirl]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

A reminder that if you want to actually do something you need to PM me. For public roles in most cases that will then result in my posting in the thread stating what you are doing. So far no one has done anything. This might be intentional as you get your bearings, but wanted to point this out. Also please remember that away missions must be done by 6 PM.

Heeeeey Second officer Girl sent you a request

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Are you suggesting there is a 20th phaser that is unaccounted for?

The 20th Phaser is the 3 shot phaser the Security Chief automatically has.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Okay, I submitted my order to BK to train today, so I can't be in nay missions, and if a scientist wants to jump abroad, you can pm him too I assume, BK let us know if I am wrong

Correct. Abe us now not eligible for any away mission.

And yes LSG did indeed PM about Abe, though that still leaves her with her 1 AP for the day.

[Chubby]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The 20th Phaser is the 3 shot phaser the Security Chief automatically has.

See, that's why I asked makes sense

[Chubby]

Looks like 2pm est ill have to get back to hands on work, I do like orientation days when playing ww

[Autumn]

We are safe going from building to building today, since the fence is still intact. This may mean it makes double sense to do conversion work today, and put away missions off until tomorrow.

[Autumn]

So JAG, looking at your list, it seems there's only about four people, other then engineers, who we want doing conversion work. So we could have one engineer run a team of four, one engineer and Chubby running a team of eight slaves, and one engineer working with the Chief Engineer.

[LoneStarGirl]

Unless I'm reading this wrong (it's happened before) our ultimate goal is to lift off so no new spawns can be created.

In order to take off we have to convert several areas of the ship; offices, crew quarters, water plant, warehouses, and power facilities.

I don't know what I can do as a second officer to expedite these conversions, but I think these are top priorities

[Autumn]

Tomorrow we should plan on running two away missions I think, so we can start thinking about who should be available for that. One scientist on each mission I think.

[Chief Rum]

Again, I bow to the decisions of our officers, but I am of the opinion we should not discount the need for away missions. An attack on our water module tonight, for instance, might leave us without a source of water for a bit, and it did not fail to pass my attention that if we go two days without water, we, umm, die.

[Autumn]

Chief, my thought is that we will go collect water tomorrow. I'm assuming, but perhaps wrongly so, that if we get water damage tonight, but collect water tomorrow, we'll be okay.

If we wait and go tomorrow we can collect more water per AP is my hope.

[Autumn]

Barkeep, I assume but don't see it spelled out that it costs 1 AP to go on an Away mission. Is this true for the officers leading it as well?

[Autumn]

Barkeep, at what point is Dehydrated status determined? Is that at the start of Day cycle, or the end?

[Zinto]

Yeah, I think we should be fine on water for today but we need to be aware of our water situation as the game progresses. We also need to start figuring out our plan of actions for today since we are getting closer to the deadline.

I am willing to do some conversion work today, if that is what Captain Jag thinks is the best plan of action.

[Autumn]

Tomorrow we'll want one mission with an Officer, a Scientist and three others. Three miners for the mining mission, three others for the water mission.

[Autumn]

If we have a Galley Master, and if Danny assigns them a phaser, they can protect the Water Plant tonight also.

The security crew will have to figure out a system for protection at night to keep everyone from getting exhausted, but I'll leave that to them and they'll want some sort of randomness to it to avoid the Spawn figuring it out.

[Chief Rum]

I'm thinking today is a free go get water day, with no pressure.

If there is a successful attack on the water module tonight, we will have two days to get enough water for all of us, which will be 15 at the end of the lynch on Day Three. We will need to use man cycles to repair the water module AND also send an away team out for more water, meaning less ability to do any work on anything that gets us off the planet. We also don't have any idea what kind of water levels such a team brings back. What if it's a small amount? And these missions, assuming the Spawn have some ability to target them or sabotage their efforts, will be under sharp attack, because it would be an easy victory for the Spawn if we all start to die off from dehydration.

If we send out a team today, we protect ourselves from having to find out about these things while under pressure, and we build a reserve so that we don't have to be desperate tomorrow. Having a reserve, in fact, might dissuade the Spawn from even making the water module a target.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Barkeep, I assume but don't see it spelled out that it costs 1 AP to go on an Away mission. Is this true for the officers leading it as well?

Away missions cost 1 AP. It's laid out in actions available to all.

Originally Posted by Autumn

Barkeep, at what point is Dehydrated status determined? Is that at the start of Day cycle, or the end?

Water is consumed at the start of the Day cycle. If the Water plant is not working at that time then any water in storage will be used. Any people who still can't get water will become dehydrated.

[Julio Riddols]

I say we maintain the water as a top priority, and since the fences are apparently intact today, we can spread our people out and start on converting as many buildings as possible. I guess then we can pick pieces from those crews to send on away missions as needed.

First and foremost, though, I agree that water is a priority to get secured, build a reserve, and set up to be maintained. It might be nice to get some people in the Security HQ to help keep other shit in order before we become too few to spare the manpower needed to keep that in working order.

[Autumn]

So it sounds like from BK's response that dehydration would set in right away in the morning if the water plant was attacked tonight. So that makes me think you're right, chief, about needing a reserve right away. As i've said, I'd prefer to do less away missions and produce less chances for spawning, but what can you do.

So we don't have a ton of free people, so I'd suggest that we convert with slaves mostly, and take the few free people on the water mission. Or I suppose we could do it the other way and send hte slaves to get water.

[Julio Riddols]

Sending the slaves to get water sounds good to me.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The 20th Phaser is the 3 shot phaser the Security Chief automatically has.

Yup, I already have one.

[Autumn]

If the slaves get spawnified they most likely die, which I guess is a better result than having a conversion. So the slave master could lead 4 slaves to get water. It doesn't really make sense to send a scientist with a slave team I don't think, as you can't have odd amounts of slaves.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Autumn

If the slaves get spawnified they most likely die, which I guess is a better result than having a conversion. So the slave master could lead 4 slaves to get water. It doesn't really make sense to send a scientist with a slave team I don't think, as you can't have odd amounts of slaves.

On away teams you may have an odd number of slaves.