2015 NFL Week 2

[MizzouCowboy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

That is an understatement.

And that is an understatement!

I just can't believe the injury to Romo. We might have been able to survive not having Dez for 6 weeks to who knows how long they are reporting now. But without Romo there is really no chance with defenses "preparing" for Weeden.

What really sucks is this defense has the ability to be extremely good. Romo finally gets a solid D and he gets hurt. Just heart breaking.

Now if they can maybe split the games Romo misses, we might have a chance to sneak into the playoffs, but with Weeden I sure am expecting the worse.

[Thomkal]

So any reason to watch NFC East teams rest of the season?

1. Dallas-Romo and Bryant gone maybe for good chunk of the season

2. Giants-Clock management problem second game in a row-for second game in a row lose with a 10 points or more lead in 4th quarter.

3. Eagles- Wow that was beyond pitiful. Chip Kelly does not seem to have the answers so far this season. Leading rusher last year held to 21 yards so far this year. No TD even when weeden came in? wow. well they got one when it didn't matter anymore I guess.

4. Redskins-won today at least, but RGIII circus still in town and just waiting for a Cousins injury to be the main attraction again.

Meanwhile Atlanta has gone 2-0 against you with a good chance of 3-0 if Romo is out next week. Yowza.

Meanwhile my beloved Cards lead the division already, but needed to have taken Palmer out when they got the big lead today. No reason to risk an injury in a meaningless game.

Nice wins by Oak and Jax today

[Scoobz0202]

Originally Posted by MizzouCowboy

And that is an understatement!

I just can't believe the injury to Romo. We might have been able to survive not having Dez for 6 weeks to who knows how long they are reporting now. But without Romo there is really no chance with defenses "preparing" for Weeden.

What really sucks is this defense has the ability to be extremely good. Romo finally gets a solid D and he gets hurt. Just heart breaking.

Now if they can maybe split the games Romo misses, we might have a chance to sneak into the playoffs, but with Weeden I sure am expecting
the worse.

Yea. This could get ugly. Really the only positive is that they are off to a 2-0 start in the division. Also, if I am remembering correctly, Romo could have come back earlier than the 10 games he missed for this injury originally but the season was already lost by the time it rolled around so there was no point. Maybe we will get "lucky" and it will be 6-8 weeks.

[Izulde]

Fuck Philbin.

[MizzouRah]

WTF Rams?

[EagleFan]

Okay, Rodgers is good but let's not give him credit for everything.

"Rodgers, knowing he has a free play, sends everyone downfield..."

Some sort of telepathic ability I guess.

[EagleFan]

I wouldn't buy a Samsung Galaxy just for that stupid wireless charging commercial alone...

(sorry, getting tired of seeing that commercial today)

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by markprior22

Eagles have more hope for the season now than the Cowboys do.

Redskins radio is going to be a really optimistic place tomorrow.

[BillJasper]

I think the Cowboys may be okay with Weeden, in the short term. The defense is pretty stout, so I don't think anyone is going to be able to run away from them.

Atlanta will be a good test for them next week.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by Izulde

Fuck Philbin.

+1.

Tannehill is probably the real deal, but he's useless without some type of commitment to the running game.

[JPhillips]

The Bengals tackle eligible play with Jake Fisher was nice. Fisher looked like a TE.

[BillJasper]

Shouldn't the play been blown dead when the offensive lineman jumped from Bennett going into the neutral zone?

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

Shouldn't the play been blown dead when the offensive lineman jumped from Bennett going into the neutral zone?

If an o-lineman jumps the play should be blown dead and a neutral zone infraction given to the defense.

[EagleFan]

Just rewound and looked at that (missed it but heard them talking about it). The o-lineman moved, play should have been blown dead right then.

[EagleFan]

Go Hawks!!!

[EagleFan]

Does it seem like the Packers are starting to rely on the offside draw at times, have been a couple plays lately where they try multiple times and when they actually snap the play without the offside it seems like they had little success.

[kingfc22]

Seattle's defense playing like a bunch of jackasses. Somethings never change.

[EagleFan]

I've seen this now and again. Pile on a fumble. Refs looking at the pile, not calling anything yet. Player from Team A comes out of the pile with the ball, ref calls the ball for Team B. What did they see to give the ball to Team B?

My favorite was a couple years ago seeing a player actually coming out of the pile with the ball (refs didn't see him I guess) and the refs were still untangling the pile looking for the ball.

[EagleFan]

Where's Eli and the Giants when we need them for bad clock management?

[Julio Riddols]

Originally Posted by sabotai

The Eagles leading rusher was Sam Bradford. 2 carries, 9 yards. Second was DeMarco Murray. 13 carries, 2 yards.

I think Murray is averaging 0.5 a carry so far this year. I wonder if Chip Kelly has a plan to make the league give his team 20 downs instead of 4. I bet Evan Mathis is laughing his ass off.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Got to bring it better than that, Bills fans.

Bills fans fail to set Guinness World Record for crowd noise against Patriots | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

[BillJasper]

I hated the Suh signing when it happened and it looks like it's only going to get better from here:

Ndamukong Suh freelancing part of Dolphins problem | ProFootballTalk

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by Julio Riddols

I think Murray is averaging 0.5 a carry so far this year. I wonder if Chip Kelly has a plan to make the league give his team 20 downs instead of 4. I bet Evan Mathis is laughing his ass off.

Too early obviously (and the Romo/Bryant injuries probably set the bar for winning that division lower) but if the Eagles finish with a losing record, does Kelly get another season given that he blew a successful team up in the offseason?

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Too early obviously (and the Romo/Bryant injuries probably set the bar for winning that division lower) but if the Eagles finish with a losing record, does Kelly get another season given that he blew a successful team up in the offseason?

I'm not sure? Three years of getting progressively worse may see him headed back to college during the off-season.

[Arles]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I've seen this now and again. Pile on a fumble. Refs looking at the pile, not calling anything yet. Player from Team A comes out of the pile with the ball, ref calls the ball for Team B. What did they see to give the ball to Team B?

My favorite was a couple years ago seeing a player actually coming out of the pile with the ball (refs didn't see him I guess) and the refs were still untangling the pile looking for the ball.

If the ref sees one player with possession, they make that ruling at that moment (before the full scrum). Seattle's player Justin Britt confirmed that he had to pull it away from Elliott with his statement after the game:

I pulled the tip from him and pulled it away. I walked away with it. Explain to me how that's their ball.

If you have to "pull the ball away", that means the other player was on the ground with the ball to begin with. At that point, it's Green Bay's ball. The only way this doesn't come into play is if the ref doesn't see the initial player have possession of the ball, which he apparently did in this situation. If you look at the video at the 1:06 mark below, it's pretty clear Elliott has the ball and then the Seattle tackle dives in to try and pry it away:

[Arles]

Another question on the game. During the personal foul situation that got KJ Wright disqualified, Seattle had 2 personal fouls and GB had one - yet they were offsetting? Here's the PBP from NFL.com:

Penalty on SEA-72-M.Bennett, Unnecessary Roughness, offsetting. Penalty on GB-70-T.Lang, Unnecessary Roughness, offsetting. Penalty on SEA-50-K.Wright, Disqualification, offsetting.

So, does this mean if two people get in an altercation and both get a personal foul, I can then take a cheap shot on any other player and the result will still be "offsetting" penalties with no 15-yarder stepped off? Seems pretty odd that if one team gets two personal fouls and the other gets one, they offset. The math doesn't seem to work out

[cartman]

Originally Posted by Arles

Another question on the game. During the personal foul situation that got KJ Wright disqualified, Seattle had 2 personal fouls and GB had one - yet they were offsetting? Here's the PBP from NFL.com:

So, does this mean if two people get in an altercation and both get a personal foul, I can then take a cheap shot on any other player and the result will still be "offsetting" penalties with no 15-yarder stepped off? Seems pretty odd that if one team gets two personal fouls and the other gets one, they offset. The math doesn't seem to work out

When the ref made the announcement, he said something to the effect that since there was a live ball penalty that was accepted, the dead ball personal fouls were automatically declined, not offsetting. It sure didn't sound right at the time.

[Arles]

Cartman, I heard the same thing - but it didn't make any sense as no live ball penalty was made. The game just continued 2nd and 2 (after the 8 yard gain on first down). My only thinking is that since all the personal fouls were post-play, they offset since there were penalties against both teams. It was just odd that if one team gets two personal fouls post-play while another just gets one, they offset. You'd think the team with two would net out a 15-yard personal foul against them.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Arles

You'd think the team with two would net out a 15-yard personal foul against them.

I ain't really up for digging through the NFL rules to see if it's different but what you said is how I saw it work last season at the high school level. I remember it mostly because they actually marched 15 left, 15 right and another 15 left.

I figured the ref was trying to lose weight or something

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Arles

Another question on the game. During the personal foul situation that got KJ Wright disqualified, Seattle had 2 personal fouls and GB had one - yet they were offsetting? Here's the PBP from NFL.com:

So, does this mean if two people get in an altercation and both get a personal foul, I can then take a cheap shot on any other player and the result will still be "offsetting" penalties with no 15-yarder stepped off? Seems pretty odd that if one team gets two personal fouls and the other gets one, they offset. The math doesn't seem to work out

Not sure if this is the same situation as in the game because I didn't watch it, but I think the answer to your question is "pretty much". Over the years, I'm pretty sure I've seen a few 2 PF penalties for one team vs. 1 PF penalty for the other in near-brawl like situations after the whistle, and they simply all offset.

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Too early obviously (and the Romo/Bryant injuries probably set the bar for winning that division lower) but if the Eagles finish with a losing record, does Kelly get another season given that he blew a successful team up in the offseason?

If he does get fired... Should I want him to come to USC (assuming Sark doesn't turn things around and ends up being fired?)

[bhlloy]

100% yes- I'd take that in a heartbeat

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I wouldn't buy a Samsung Galaxy just for that stupid wireless charging commercial alone...

(sorry, getting tired of seeing that commercial today)

Those stupid Chevy commercials (real people, not actors) soooo tired of them!

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Atocep

4th in yards and 3rd in points last year. 2nd in yards and 4th in points the year before.

Complete disaster because of the first 2 games this year.

I think it's fair to say that OC Chip Kelly is a success, and Pro Personnel Director Chip Kelly is an abysmal failure.

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Got to bring it better than that, Bills fans.

Bills fans fail to set Guinness World Record for crowd noise against Patriots | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo Sports

It's hard when you're getting emasculated again by the QB that's 20-1 against you in the last 12 years.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Those stupid Chevy commercials (real people, not actors) soooo tired of them!

A million times better than Buick. Yes, it looks exactly like a fucking Buick, that's why you are trying to hawk it for 180 bucks a month

[Grover]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Those stupid Chevy commercials (real people, not actors) soooo tired of them!

Still better than McConnaghuey's Lincoln adverts.

"I don't drive a Lincoln because it's coooool."

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

A million times better than Buick. Yes, it looks exactly like a fucking Buick, that's why you are trying to hawk it for 180 bucks a month

[albionmoonlight]

Saints message boards blowing up with rumor that Brees has torn rotator cuff and will have season ending surgery. Nothing official yet.

If so, it will be a (likely) sad end to a transcendent career with the Saints.

Of course, as a Saints fan I was ecstatic to have him on my favorite team. It has been a while since I have had to watch shitty QB play and pretend it was adequate. You get used to that.

But, as a football fan, I am also sad that he was stuck with such a bad situation for so long. He dragged teams to relevance that had record-settingly-bad defenses. And he made household names out of guys like Marcus Colston (no probowls ever) and Lance Moore. And the first two weeks with the Seahawks have shown us how mortal even guys like Jimmy Graham look when Brees isn't putting the ball right where it needs to go.

Basically, I wonder how many Super Bowls Brees would have won with even an average supporting cast.

And I think that people may be shocked by just how bad the Saints will be if he's out. I'm thinking two or three wins at the most.

[albionmoonlight]

dola: And props to Brady. I'm not the biggest fan, but out of the Manning/Brady/Brees/Romo generation, he's the one who's managed to keep his body in shape beyond the typical expiration date for QBs.

[BillJasper]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Basically, I wonder how many Super Bowls Brees would have won with even an average supporting cast.

Part of that is on Brees. By demanding so much money, he tied their hands.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Those stupid Chevy commercials (real people, not actors) soooo tired of them!

Curb that impulse. Enjoy the hilarity and the realness of the real people (not actors). Buy a Chevy!

That's a Buick?!?! Or you can buy one of these too.




Or you can buy/lease a GMC or Cadillac.

Choice is yours!

[Grover]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

dola: And props to Brady. I'm not the biggest fan, but out of the Manning/Brady/Brees/Romo generation, he's the one who's managed to keep his body in shape beyond the typical expiration date for QBs.

What a Big Ben?

He's honestly probably the third best QB of this generation behind Brady/Manning.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Saints message boards blowing up with rumor that Brees has torn rotator cuff and will have season ending surgery. Nothing official yet.

If so, it will be a (likely) sad end to a transcendent career with the Saints.

Of course, as a Saints fan I was ecstatic to have him on my favorite team. It has been a while since I have had to watch shitty QB play and pretend it was adequate. You get used to that.

But, as a football fan, I am also sad that he was stuck with such a bad situation for so long. He dragged teams to relevance that had record-settingly-bad defenses. And he made household names out of guys like Marcus Colston (no probowls ever) and Lance Moore. And the first two weeks with the Seahawks have shown us how mortal even guys like Jimmy Graham look when Brees isn't putting the ball right where it needs to go.

Basically, I wonder how many Super Bowls Brees would have won with even an average supporting cast.

And I think that people may be shocked by just how bad the Saints will be if he's out. I'm thinking two or three wins at the most.

about to post that. Guess there was a reason besides age that Brees looked so bad on Sunday, If he is done, I think we can say the Saints are done for this season (well when they traded Jimmy Graham should have been the first sign) and probably Sean Payton too.

[Thomkal]

Dolphins trade CB Will Davis to Ravens - NFL.com

[Thomkal]

Tony Romo won't need surgery on fractured clavicle - NFL.com

[Thomkal]

And the QB injuries are stacking up:

Matthew Stafford's availability unclear for Week 3 - NFL.com

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

And the QB injuries are stacking up:

Matthew Stafford's availability unclear for Week 3 - NFL.com

If Dan Orlovsky starts next Sunday night, I will not be watching that game. In fact, at this point, I'd rather re-watch Season 2 of True Detective than the Lions.

[Thomkal]

wow that's sad HB-I was still watching after all the horror show in Arizona last year. Guess I can't blame you though,

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

wow that's sad HB-I was still watching after all the horror show in Arizona last year. Guess I can't blame you though,

I have a particular dislike for Dan Orlovsky for some reason.

His presence is like black a hole, it sucks all of the enjoyment out of everything for me. I think it's because he reminds me of the 0-16 season.

[Grover]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I have a particular dislike for Dan Orlovsky for some reason.

His presence is like black a hole, it sucks all of the enjoyment out of everything for me. I think it's because he reminds me of the 0-16 season.

Is he the only player still on the roster from that team?

Edit: Wow, Megatron was there.