Mafia Town - GAME OVER (Town Wins)

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by timmae

This may be taboo in this version of social deduction games but it had been too damn quiet. To hell with it...

I want to know why jackal, Brit and tdfs visited autumn in jail last night. My guess is there were some nefarious activities in mind. I see no reason not to start lynching into that group since it is the only solid evidence we have so far.

Discuss.

Dude... there are at least as many good power roles that will visit players as bad ones...

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Role Split
1 Jailor
2 Town Investigative
1 Town Protective
2 Town Support
1 Town Killing
1 Random Town (any role except unique)
1 Godfather
1 Mafioso
1 Random Mafia (any mafia except Godfather and Mafioso)
1 Neutral Benign
1 Neutral Evil
1 Neutral Killing
1 Any (any role except unique)

[britrock88]

I appreciate that you alluded to your info by asking me a question earlier. But you had already caught my hint.

[Chief Rum]

What he said... I doubt that was mafia princess's wedding they were all attending.

[britrock88]

Heh, despite my indignance, I will join you in putting pressure on Jackal and TBFA...

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by Zinto

What are the pros and cons of not voting someone out each day? I am not sure I get why we wouldn't have a vote go through everyday.

The game this is based off of starts out with a small group of players and mulitple deaths. Some days there will be 2-3 night kills with villagers having NK abilities, mafia having them, and neutrals having them. You also have so many ways to catch the bag guys like, for example the sheriff and investigator are both seers, the lookout will be able to see people moving about (and if someone visits someone who winds up death it's pretty obvious), you also have like 2 bodyguards, and then the jailor who if you get caught in a lie with him wind up dead.

Bottom line in the actual game Town of Salem if you add lynches on top of 2-3 deaths a night and don't give your seers time to work you wind up with an evil win every time.

It can get bad with the amount of neutrals. If you screw around and end up lynching "good" characters the neutrals will often do their own thing and even when the seer hits you can't get the numbers for a lynch.

There is also the Jestor. The Jestor is actively trying to get lynched because his win condition is to die by hanging. And if you vote for him then he will wind up killing you.

In a game where there could be as many seers as bad guys and twice the number of night kills, it just isn't a great idea to toss around lynches like crazy.

If you look at his ruleset there are 3 mafia, 2 seer types, and a whole bunch of potential killing roles. Blind lynches are bad, but now we have something to go on with the Autumn thing so we should try to flesh that out more and maybe we have a lynch tomorrow.

[timmae]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Dude... there are at least as many good power roles that will visit players as bad ones...

I get it.. Hate it or like it.. It is done.

[Ziiggy]

Originally Posted by dubb93

The game this is based off of starts out with a small group of players and mulitple deaths. Some days there will be 2-3 night kills with villagers having NK abilities, mafia having them, and neutrals having them. You also have so many ways to catch the bag guys like, for example the sheriff and investigator are both seers, the lookout will be able to see people moving about (and if someone visits someone who winds up death it's pretty obvious), you also have like 2 bodyguards, and then the jailor who if you get caught in a lie with him wind up dead.

Bottom line in the actual game Town of Salem if you add lynches on top of 2-3 deaths a night and don't give your seers time to work you wind up with an evil win every time.

It can get bad with the amount of neutrals. If you screw around and end up lynching "good" characters the neutrals will often do their own thing and even when the seer hits you can't get the numbers for a lynch.

There is also the Jestor. The Jestor is actively trying to get lynched because his win condition is to die by hanging. And if you vote for him then he will wind up killing you.

In a game where there could be as many seers as bad guys and twice the number of night kills, it just isn't a great idea to toss around lynches like crazy.

If you look at his ruleset there are 3 mafia, 2 seer types, and a whole bunch of potential killing roles. Blind lynches are bad, but now we have something to go on with the Autumn thing so we should try to flesh that out more and maybe we have a lynch tomorrow.

Good points. This is not a typical ww game as everybody has power and tons of stuff can happen at night and as stated, at least in the early part of the game, we'll get more information from that than we'd get from guess-lynching. Assuming the soft claims are legit we already have more info than we'd ever get in a standard game at this point and we have a solid group of suspects due to everybody and their dog apparently targeting Autumn so as stated, maybe a lynch will be appropriate tomorrow after we see what mayhem the night brings.

[timmae]

Lol, yes. Poor autumn. How many targets does he have taped to him? How many bugs have been planted on him? How many satellites are tracing his every move??

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by timmae

Lol, yes. Poor autumn. How many targets does he have taped to him? How many bugs have been planted on him? How many satellites are tracing his every move??

That would be fun. Everyone in the game (if they are able to target someone with an ability) should all target Autumn tonight. It will be great fun watching EF try to figure it all out.

[EagleFan]

Less than an hour before the initial deadline. If you are jailed you will be told after this deadline. So the jailer has information soon enough, send in a PM with a jailer note if you haven't. This will be given to the jailer if you are jailed. This is even more important tonight as the jailer can potential execute starting tonight.

[EagleFan]

Quick clarification. 9:00 is only the jailer deadline for today (would be lynch deadline as well if there was a nomination). 10:00 is the night action deadline, though the jailed player will not have an action to submit.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by timmae

This may be taboo in this version of social deduction games but it had been too damn quiet. To hell with it...

I want to know why jackal, Brit and tdfs visited autumn in jail last night. My guess is there were some nefarious activities in mind. I see no reason not to start lynching into that group since it is the only solid evidence we have so far.

Discuss.

Well, this gives us a great start, though I assume it includes at least one good role in there. But having a one out of four shot at finding a bad (including Timmae in there with the possibility that he's messing with us) is pretty good. I think tomorrow we should nominate from these three (because I think it's a better bet to assume that Timmae and I are telling the truth). So if you're one of these three, prepare your defense!

[EagleFan]

Day Deadline

Sending out the jail notification.

Night actions are due by the 10 PM deadline. 10:00 counts, 10:01 is late.

[EagleFan]

Jail notification sent out. It is now night 2.

[EagleFan]

Missed a detail...

IT IS A FULL MOON TONIGHT

(Even Numbered Nights)

[EagleFan]

deadline

Processing the results. Could take a couple.

[EagleFan]

Night 2 Results

TBFA has been killed. TBFA was mauled by a werewolf.

TBFA's role was Mafioso.

A note was found by the body:
"..."

A will was found:
"I was possessed the first night and not in full control of my faculties.
BEWARE there are WITCHES among us.
KILL THE EVIL!"


Shoveler has been killed. Shoveler was killed by a member of the mafia.

Shoveler's role was escort.

A Note was found by the body:
"Without a badge and a gun, what do you got?
A sucker in a uniform waiting to get shot
by me
or another..."

A will was found:
Night 1 - Blocked Cheekimonk - Not arsonist if CF dies to arsonist, not mafioso if autumn was jailed on night one. Can still be Godfather or aux mafia
Night 2 - Escorting Britrock

[EagleFan]

Day 3 has begun. The deadline for lynch nominations is 2 PM EST. 7 votes are required to put someone up for lynch.

[EagleFan]

Updated to add the death note and will with TBFA. Missed in the PM's.

[dubb93]

A witch and a werewolf doesn't seem likely but nice try.

I spent last night in jail.

[britrock88]

Ugh, Central Time!

[CrimsonFox]

jeeeeeezus!
that's not good

[lighthousekeeper]

i thought this is good? mafioso's already dead on the first day

[CrimsonFox]

shoveler dying is NOT good.
i wonder if he died because he was an active player or because he was escorting brit and brit was the target.

[CrimsonFox]

Trying to figure out who killed shoveler.

If the mafioso was killed by the werewolf BEFORE shoveler died, then it HAD to be the godfather that did it.
right?

[CrimsonFox]

also was anyone else doused ?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by dubb93

A witch and a werewolf doesn't seem likely but nice try.

I spent last night in jail.

right. only possible if the last "ANY ROLE" turned out to be a witch. but the plural makes it sound bogus. I agree it sounds made up.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

right. only possible if the last "ANY ROLE" turned out to be a witch. but the plural makes it sound bogus. I agree it sounds made up.

that's around 5% chance

[CrimsonFox]

Information:

Blue = claims, red = modconfirmed evil, green = modconfirmed good, brown = modconfirmed neutral
DN = death note info

Roles:
1 Jailor - (Not dubb or autumn) - jailed autumn n1, dubb n2
2 Town Investigative
1 Town Protective
2 Town Support
1 Town Killing
1 Random Town (any role except unique)
1 Godfather - killed shoveler the escort? - DN: uses poetry
1 Mafioso - TFSA - DN: witches are about
1 Random Mafia (any mafia except Godfather and Mafioso)
1 Neutral Benign
1 Neutral Evil - confirmed werewolf
1 Neutral Killing - Arsonist per CF
1 Any (any role except unique)

The living
1) Zinto
2) timmae
3) britrock88 - escorted n2 by shoveler/escort
4) Ragone
6) Chief Rum
7) cheekimonk - blocked by shoveler n1
8) Autumn - jailed n1, attacked n1 in jail
9) Danny
10) The Jackal
12) dubb93 - jailed night 2
13) CrimsonFox - doused night 1
14) lighthousekeeper
15) Ziiggy

The dead
5) TBFA - mafioso (killed by werewolf night 2)
11) Shoveler - escort (killed by mafia night 2)

[CrimsonFox]

did I miss anything?

[CrimsonFox]

if anyone else was jailed or nearly killed, it would behoove you to come forth

[CrimsonFox]

Posts:

Ziiggy 6
cheekimonk 6
Zinto 4
Abe Sargent 3
TBFA 2
Ragone 2
Danny 2

try harder please :P

[CrimsonFox]

eagle, is there a night action order ?
are we allowed to know it?

[lighthousekeeper]

i'm assuming a jailor can't jail themselves right?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by lighthousekeeper

i'm assuming a jailor can't jail themselves right?

The only jailor I've ever seen claim to jail himself was actually a jestor.

[CrimsonFox]

oh yeah what was that thing about people visiting jail? i can't find that.

[lighthousekeeper]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

oh yeah what was that thing about people visiting jail? i can't find that.

post 197

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by timmae

This may be taboo in this version of social deduction games but it had been too damn quiet. To hell with it...

I want to know why jackal, Brit and tdfs visited autumn in jail last night. My guess is there were some nefarious activities in mind. I see no reason not to start lynching into that group since it is the only solid evidence we have so far.

Discuss.

hmmmm so what does this mean? jackal/brit can you confirm going to visit jail?
timmae i assume you are claiming something. let me figure out what.
incidently i kinda believe you

[CrimsonFox]

sure

vote thejackal

[Autumn]

If TBDF was mafia then he probably was the one attacking me on N1. Not to say that clears Jackal and Brit, but I won't necessarily restrict my vote to those guys at this point.

[CrimsonFox]

I'd also get rid of the people that aren't posting too.

[CrimsonFox]

autumn did it say who or what attacked you?

[Autumn]

No, I had no clue to the identity. I just know being in jail made it fail.

[EagleFan]

Nomination Vote

7 votes required

The Jackal 1 - CrimsonFox (239)

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

eagle, is there a night action order ?
are we allowed to know it?

The only real order would be escort, consort, transporter and witch actions occurring before any actions which they may interfere with.

The best rule of thumb tends to be, maximum craziness.

[cheekimonk]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Posts:

Ziiggy 6
cheekimonk 6
Zinto 4
Abe Sargent 3
TBFA 2
Ragone 2
Danny 2

try harder please :P

I've been dealing, and was diagnosed on Monday, with migraines...on top of crazy work week. I'm pretty much caught up but not enough time to contribute yesterday/night. I'll try harder.

[CrimsonFox]

oh I get it. Autumn was probably only attacked by the mafioso on night 1.
the werewolf could not attack as the moon was not full and the arsonist was dousing me.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by cheekimonk

I've been dealing, and was diagnosed on Monday, with migraines...on top of crazy work week. I'm pretty much caught up but not enough time to contribute yesterday/night. I'll try harder.

yay


don't mean to sound like a total jerk (only a partial one) but if people don't talk then we can't figure them out.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by cheekimonk

I've been dealing, and was diagnosed on Monday, with migraines...on top of crazy work week. I'm pretty much caught up but not enough time to contribute yesterday/night. I'll try harder.

Migraines suck. Feel better.

[cheekimonk]

I agree:

1) Probably a good choice not to lynch yesterday (although there should have been more discussion...partly my fault), but MUST come together on a lynch before deadline today.

2) Lynch needs to be outside Jackal and brit (as per timmae's logic).