Guess who I carried on my plane today? - Page 5

Thomkal · 12-11-2019, 08:18 PM

Congrats! But who was on your training plane?

kingfc22 · 12-11-2019, 08:48 PM

Congrats PM!

cartman · 12-11-2019, 09:37 PM

So. Freaking. Awesome.

Congrats! After the 747 the 777 is my favorite passenger plane

RBlant · 12-12-2019, 08:48 PM

Any chance of another Year in the Life?

ColtCrazy · 12-12-2019, 09:50 PM

Well done, PM! Congrats!

PilotMan · 12-13-2019, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RBlant

Any chance of another Year in the Life?

The fact that you remember this and want more of it is very flattering. I was really irritated when Photobucket stopped free hosting on their site. I will have to think about it for sure. Because there's a whole lot different about the way this fleet operates than the last one, but thank you very much.

PilotMan · 12-13-2019, 01:09 PM

Thank you for all the congrats guys! I mean, it's been 20 years since I got my private pilots license. This is definitely one very close step to the top of the mountain, and the pay raise that I just got (no good kids gonna steal it all for themselves, I just know it) looks mighty fine. As a reward I've got a YT of my flight ripping through the Vegas Strip. It was fun. I'll keep this up for a couple weeks and then plan to take it back down. Please don't share it outside this group. Thanks

Arles · 12-13-2019, 01:22 PM

Congrats and a cool video!

Dreghorn2 · 12-13-2019, 01:37 PM

That video was cool as heck.

Edward64 · 12-13-2019, 02:43 PM

Was on a flight this week. Pilot announced a solider escorting remains and for us to let that soldier de-plane first when we landed. I've had that occur before but the pilot went on to say the remains were from WW2. Sad and cool at the same time.

claphamsa · 12-13-2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

The fact that you remember this and want more of it is very flattering. I was really irritated when Photobucket stopped free hosting on their site. I will have to think about it for sure. Because there's a whole lot different about the way this fleet operates than the last one, but thank you very much.

very much want more!

Coffee Warlord · 12-17-2019, 09:52 AM

The most important question...is there a training center in Colorado, and can you get me on the simulator.

Izulde · 12-17-2019, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

very much want more!

I also want more. FYI, imgur has become my PB replacement

PilotMan · 12-17-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

The most important question...is there a training center in Colorado, and can you get me on the simulator.

I actually did get an old friend of mine from HS, that I hadn't seen in 25ish years, in. We were in CAP together back in the day, and he's a LtC. in the Air Force in the Springs area. He came up and went though an entire day with me. So, technically, yes? But it's so rare that it actually works out. Like really, really rare. That was a good time though.

PilotMan · 12-17-2019, 02:41 PM

Oh, BTW, first trip yesterday, currently sitting in Beijing experiencing the full middle of the night time change effects.

Coffee Warlord · 12-17-2019, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I actually did get an old friend of mine from HS, that I hadn't seen in 25ish years, in. We were in CAP together back in the day, and he's a LtC. in the Air Force in the Springs area. He came up and went though an entire day with me. So, technically, yes? But it's so rare that it actually works out. Like really, really rare. That was a good time though.

So what you're saying is, I have you pester you for the next bajillion years until I hit the jackpot.

Coffee Warlord · 12-17-2019, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Oh, BTW, first trip yesterday, currently sitting in Beijing experiencing the full middle of the night time change effects.

I'm assuming that's two crews on that haul?

And out of curiosity....you're at cruise, you exchanged pleasantries with center ... what the hell do you do to pass the time on long hauls?

PilotMan · 12-17-2019, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

So what you're saying is, I have you pester you for the next bajillion years until I hit the jackpot.

Yeah, pretty much.

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'm assuming that's two crews on that haul?

And out of curiosity....you're at cruise, you exchanged pleasantries with center ... what the hell do you do to pass the time on long hauls?

It was a trip going over the pole last night. Got up to 82N, so not quite over the top, but plenty far north. You're pretty much completely on your own up there and it's quiet. I had training to do so we kept busy, but you're right, two crews to swap out. We had two breaks, the longest I was in the seat was about 3.5 hours at a time. A lot less than the long hauls I made on the 737. The flight was just over 13 hours all together.

So making sure the airplane is still in communication with who you're supposed to be. Making sure the Russians know who and where you are, so they don't get squirrelly. Check position and fuel all the time. Watch the stars, think about life. Normal stuff.

Butter · 01-16-2020, 10:15 AM

Flying home from New Orleans on Tuesday morning, via Tampa, on Southwest.

On NOLA to Tampa leg, my plane had:

Tony Dungy
Booger McFarland

and Clemson players:
Gage Cervenka
Sean Pollard
Diondre Overton

Last 3 were on their way to the East/West Shrine Game in Tampa coming up this weekend.

Also ran across CJ Spiller in the airport and my wife chatted him up for about 5 minutes. It was 5:30 AM, but he was as nice as could be.

Lathum · 01-16-2020, 11:47 AM

Please tell me you did us all a favor and pushed Booger out the emergency exit at 30K feet.

cartman · 01-16-2020, 11:54 AM

Booger: "Because this plane has taken off, that means we are in the air right now."

Butter · 01-16-2020, 11:58 AM

I did have the urge to taunt him about if he still thinks the Bills should run a draw just because he was wearing an LSU shirt, but I am not a dick, so I didn't.

cuervo72 · 01-16-2020, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

Booger: "Because this plane has taken off, that means we are in the air right now."

Oh SHIT, he's the Perd Hapley of football.

Edward64 · 01-29-2020, 02:40 PM

PM, any special precautions pilots & crew are taking with the outbreak?

Edward64 · 02-01-2020, 04:44 PM

I've never had a body odor situation while flying and these guys look okay pic wise. I doubt it was religious discrimination and would a pilot actually initiate this or other cabin crew?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/us/am...rnd/index.html

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A Michigan couple is suing American Airlines for discrimination, alleging in a lawsuit that an airline agent kicked them off a flight for what the employee said was "extremely offensive body odor" and told them he knew that "Orthodox Jews take baths once a week."

Yehuda Yosef Adler and Jennie Adler say in the lawsuit they do not have offensive body odor. They are accusing the airline of discriminating against them because of their religion and defaming them, and say that they experienced embarrassment and humiliation and defamation because of the incident last year.

In January 2019, the couple, along with their 19-month-old daughter, boarded an American Airlines flight from Miami to Detroit. Within five minutes of taking their seats, the couple was approached by an agent who told them that they needed to deplane because there was an emergency, according to a lawsuit filed January 28 with the District Court for the Southern District of Texas.

Once the couple stepped off the plane, the agent told them that the pilot had booted them because they had "extremely offensive body odor," the lawsuit said. The couple said they were shocked because they had never received complaints about their body odor on flights, and that they had showered that morning, the lawsuit said.

PilotMan · 02-01-2020, 08:20 PM

This is taken from a cursory google search. The issue likely started with a passenger complaint.

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Can airlines kick someone off for body odor? Actually, yes. “Most airlines have rules in their 'contracts of carriage' that allow an airline to remove a passenger if the stench is so bad that other travelers could potentially become sickened by the odor,” says David Reischer, attorney and CEO for LegalAdvice.com

PilotMan · 01-16-2021, 12:29 AM

I carried nobody. Not one soul. Just got back from Rome with a plane capable of carrying 300 passengers, and since it was a cargo only leg, it was empty, only pilots (4). Nothing makes you feel more like a king than having all those empty seats at your disposal. A very unique experience.

rjolley · 01-16-2021, 01:00 AM

PilotMan

Glad to hear that you're back in the air. (If there was a mention that you were flying again, I must've missed it...)

CrimsonFox · 01-16-2021, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I carried nobody. Not one soul. Just got back from Rome with a plane capable of carrying 300 passengers, and since it was a cargo only leg, it was empty, only pilots (4). Nothing makes you feel more like a king than having all those empty seats at your disposal. A very unique experience.

what music did you blare in the cabin....and do you get to eat all the first class meals?

Bobble · 01-16-2021, 08:42 AM

Finally, all the peanuts you want!

Edward64 · 01-16-2021, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobble

Finally, all the peanuts you want!

Or a chance to invite some others for a mile-high orgy?

PilotMan · 01-16-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rjolley

PilotMan

Glad to hear that you're back in the air. (If there was a mention that you were flying again, I must've missed it...)

Thank you! Yes it's been since last February. Since then I went non-qualified, was kicked off the plane, told I would have to bid a different plane than initially chosen, then allowed back on the plane, but in a new base. Then sent to training and given 1 day before a check ride and said fuck that, but I did make it after only one extra day and now I am officially legal to fly again. Happy to still be on the 777 after all that.

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

what music did you blare in the cabin....and do you get to eat all the first class meals?

No music, the PA doesn't have Sirius XM or anything like that. It would've been Learning To Fly by the Foos though.

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Originally Posted by Bobble

Finally, all the peanuts you want!

If they gave us unlimited snacks, or peanuts, yeah, but it's seriously stripped down right now. I think I did eat a few bags of chips though.

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Or a chance to invite some others for a mile-high orgy?

I was telling my wife this last night that I could literally fuck anywhere in that plane, from the galleys, to the seats, to the crew rest bunks, pilot or FA, didn't matter. I had an entire section of pods to myself watching Wolf of Wallstreet coming back on my break. Which was funny, because that's exactly what's in the movie.

Coffee Warlord · 01-16-2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I carried nobody. Not one soul. Just got back from Rome with a plane capable of carrying 300 passengers, and since it was a cargo only leg, it was empty, only pilots (4). Nothing makes you feel more like a king than having all those empty seats at your disposal. A very unique experience.

You're more than welcome to pick me up at COS and fly me to Rome any time if that happens again.

GrantDawg · 01-16-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

No music, the PA doesn't have Sirius XM or anything like that. It would've been Learning To Fly by the Foos though.

That would have been perfect. I would have to have seen a video of all four of you banging your heads as that blasts on the speakers.

CrimsonFox · 01-16-2021, 11:10 AM

with only four of you you could practice social distancing on the plane

CrimsonFox · 01-16-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

No music, the PA doesn't have Sirius XM or anything like that. It would've been Learning To Fly by the Foos though.

YES! I can see you dressed as a teeny bopper too!

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

If they gave us unlimited snacks, or peanuts, yeah, but it's seriously stripped down right now. I think I did eat a few bags of chips though.

I'm seriously dying to know what you had to eat on this trip!

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

I was telling my wife this last night that I could literally fuck anywhere in that plane, from the galleys, to the seats, to the crew rest bunks, pilot or FA, didn't matter. I had an entire section of pods to myself watching Wolf of Wallstreet coming back on my break. Which was funny, because that's exactly what's in the movie.

You have bunks?!?!?

cougarfreak · 01-16-2021, 11:54 AM

Fly me away!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PilotMan · 01-17-2021, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

YES! I can see you dressed as a teeny bopper too!

Yeah, I don't think anyone wants to see that right now.

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I'm seriously dying to know what you had to eat on this trip!

Actually, the flight is catered just for the crew on board. We have different meals than the rest of the plane, and we have the option to special meals that might be different than the standard beef/chicken meals, like an Indian meal, or Kosher, or Salad meal as examples. A flight to Rome would have two meals boarded for us. There are also sometimes the standard snacks that first class might have on board, from chips, gummy bears, or snack boxes. I tend to eat way more junk than I should as a way to kill time, so that's not good.

In Rome though, I had a meal with the crew consisting of all the Italian classics of red wine, bread with olive oil, meat and cheese tray and spaghetti with meat sauce. I had a piece of pizza for lunch/breakfast (if you're counting me being on east coast time) before we left again.

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You have bunks?!?!?

Yep, the type depend on the variant of aircraft, only the 777 and 787 in our fleets have true bunks for flight crew. They can vary from feeling a bit like a coffin to feeling like a much bigger and more comfy coffin. My 5 yr old self would have never wanted to leave as they feel a bit like a fort. We have boarded sheets, blankets and pillows too for each crew member to use. They also block one of the seats in business class on certain routes as well so crews have an option to use that too.

PilotMan · 01-17-2021, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Fly me away!

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was good to get back to it and knock a new destination off my list, but the really weird thing about going to Rome is that Americans aren't even allowed there yet because of Covid. So tourism is way down, and I'm sure we stuck out like sore thumbs.

Edward64 · 01-17-2021, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

In Rome though, I had a meal with the crew consisting of all the Italian classics of red wine, bread with olive oil, meat and cheese tray and spaghetti with meat sauce. I had a piece of pizza for lunch/breakfast (if you're counting me being on east coast time) before we left again.

You are allowed to drink wine while flying or close to flying? I thought it was a no-no if XX hours before flight.

PilotMan · 01-17-2021, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

You are allowed to drink wine while flying or close to flying? I thought it was a no-no if XX hours before flight.

Yes, you're correct, there is a 12 hour restriction, but we had a 24 hour layover. So there was plenty of time to have a drink.

PilotMan · 06-28-2021, 08:45 PM

The answer is nobody. This year I've only carried passengers to Houston and Honolulu. Every other flight I've done this year has been cargo only. I gotta say, having an empty 777 to fly around the world with no passengers, no flight attendants and all the first class seats in the plane to yourself, all the sleeping bunks is a certain sort of oddity that is unlikely to be repeated in the future, and it's spoiling the shit out of me.

Coffee Warlord · 06-28-2021, 08:49 PM

Get the ORD -> COS route and you can fly me in a couple of days.

Wee bit smaller plane than your 777, though.

PilotMan · 06-28-2021, 09:03 PM

HAHAHA...We can open up new routes since it looks like we're the only US airline who is ready to rebound.

We're about to witness the greatest battle for market share in aviation since deregulation.

Toddzilla · 06-28-2021, 09:59 PM

I miss these updates, but its great to hear you're doing well and enjoying life. Cheers, PM.

JPhillips · 06-28-2021, 10:23 PM

Just get me flights from Newburgh to Europe again.

Coffee Warlord · 10-11-2021, 09:47 PM

One could argue I carried PM on his plane today.

PilotMan · 10-12-2021, 09:35 AM

Haha, very true.

NobodyHere · 10-12-2021, 10:16 PM

Was PM drunk again? I just watched "Flight" and drunk pilots make the best pilots.

Coffee Warlord · 10-13-2021, 12:54 PM

No, but I did learn he doesn't drink coffee, so I can never trust him behind the wheel of a real plane, ever.

12-11-2019, 08:18 PM	#201
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	Congrats! But who was on your training plane? __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

12-11-2019, 08:48 PM	#202
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Congrats PM! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

12-11-2019, 09:37 PM	#203
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	So. Freaking. Awesome. Congrats! After the 747 the 777 is my favorite passenger plane __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

12-12-2019, 09:50 PM	#205
ColtCrazy College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Midwest	Well done, PM! Congrats! __________________ The Field Generals and Statis Pro Basketball Super League

12-13-2019, 01:09 PM	#207
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Thank you for all the congrats guys! I mean, it's been 20 years since I got my private pilots license. This is definitely one very close step to the top of the mountain, and the pay raise that I just got (no good kids gonna steal it all for themselves, I just know it) looks mighty fine. As a reward I've got a YT of my flight ripping through the Vegas Strip. It was fun. I'll keep this up for a couple weeks and then plan to take it back down. Please don't share it outside this group. Thanks __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

12-12-2019, 08:48 PM	#204
RBlant n00b Join Date: Dec 2005	Any chance of another Year in the Life?

12-13-2019, 01:22 PM	#208
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	Congrats and a cool video! __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

12-13-2019, 01:37 PM	#209
Dreghorn2 n00b Join Date: May 2011	That video was cool as heck.

12-13-2019, 02:43 PM	#210
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Was on a flight this week. Pilot announced a solider escorting remains and for us to let that soldier de-plane first when we landed. I've had that occur before but the pilot went on to say the remains were from WW2. Sad and cool at the same time.

12-17-2019, 09:52 AM	#212
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	The most important question...is there a training center in Colorado, and can you get me on the simulator.

12-17-2019, 02:41 PM	#215
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Oh, BTW, first trip yesterday, currently sitting in Beijing experiencing the full middle of the night time change effects. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

01-16-2020, 10:15 AM	#219
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Flying home from New Orleans on Tuesday morning, via Tampa, on Southwest. On NOLA to Tampa leg, my plane had: Tony Dungy Booger McFarland and Clemson players: Gage Cervenka Sean Pollard Diondre Overton Last 3 were on their way to the East/West Shrine Game in Tampa coming up this weekend. Also ran across CJ Spiller in the airport and my wife chatted him up for about 5 minutes. It was 5:30 AM, but he was as nice as could be. __________________ My listening habits

01-16-2020, 11:47 AM	#220
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Please tell me you did us all a favor and pushed Booger out the emergency exit at 30K feet.

01-16-2020, 11:54 AM	#221
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Booger: "Because this plane has taken off, that means we are in the air right now." __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

01-16-2020, 11:58 AM	#222
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	I did have the urge to taunt him about if he still thinks the Bills should run a draw just because he was wearing an LSU shirt, but I am not a dick, so I didn't. __________________ My listening habits

01-29-2020, 02:40 PM	#224
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	PM, any special precautions pilots & crew are taking with the outbreak?

01-16-2021, 12:29 AM	#227
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	I carried nobody. Not one soul. Just got back from Rome with a plane capable of carrying 300 passengers, and since it was a cargo only leg, it was empty, only pilots (4). Nothing makes you feel more like a king than having all those empty seats at your disposal. A very unique experience. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

01-16-2021, 01:00 AM	#228
rjolley College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Roseville, CA	PilotMan Glad to hear that you're back in the air. (If there was a mention that you were flying again, I must've missed it...)

01-16-2021, 08:42 AM	#230
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	Finally, all the peanuts you want!

01-16-2021, 11:10 AM	#235
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	with only four of you you could practice social distancing on the plane

01-16-2021, 11:54 AM	#237
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	Fly me away! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

06-28-2021, 08:45 PM	#242
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	The answer is nobody. This year I've only carried passengers to Houston and Honolulu. Every other flight I've done this year has been cargo only. I gotta say, having an empty 777 to fly around the world with no passengers, no flight attendants and all the first class seats in the plane to yourself, all the sleeping bunks is a certain sort of oddity that is unlikely to be repeated in the future, and it's spoiling the shit out of me. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-28-2021, 08:49 PM	#243
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Get the ORD -> COS route and you can fly me in a couple of days. Wee bit smaller plane than your 777, though. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 06-28-2021 at 08:50 PM.

06-28-2021, 09:03 PM	#244
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	HAHAHA...We can open up new routes since it looks like we're the only US airline who is ready to rebound. We're about to witness the greatest battle for market share in aviation since deregulation. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

06-28-2021, 09:59 PM	#245
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I miss these updates, but its great to hear you're doing well and enjoying life. Cheers, PM.

06-28-2021, 10:23 PM	#246
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Just get me flights from Newburgh to Europe again. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-11-2021, 09:47 PM	#247
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	One could argue I carried PM on his plane today.

10-12-2021, 09:35 AM	#248
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Haha, very true. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-12-2021, 10:16 PM	#249
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	Was PM drunk again? I just watched "Flight" and drunk pilots make the best pilots. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

10-13-2021, 12:54 PM	#250
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	No, but I did learn he doesn't drink coffee, so I can never trust him behind the wheel of a real plane, ever.

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