Werewolf XXX: The Ghost Council of Orzhova - Game Over - Game Ends Night Five - Page 5

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:24 PM

ok - well, it seems like I do this once a game, and it never works out, but

Vote Blade

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I don't know if this is something we want to reveal this early or not, but does everyone have some type of magical ability or are there "simple villagers" in this game?

I will reveal that I have a very modest magical skill.

I have no magical skill, but I have awesome political prowess.

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:25 PM

Well, I have to vote for somebody with votes to save myself from cronin. This guy has acted suspiciously all day.

Vote saldana

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:25 PM

Blade, the very idea that Saldana isn't going bananas right now reacting to votes against him for something he considers illogical supports the idea that he isn't a bad guy. I recognize this is a bit of a reach, but you have played enough games with him to know that he goes bonkers when cornered in these games. But today he has removed himself from the conversation until right before the deadline.

Again, I really don't want to be forced to cast a vote against him because I don't think he is the enemy today. There are three of them out there, so I think we have pretty good odds of getting one. But we won't if you vote for me and I don't think we will if we vote for Saldana.

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'll put a vote on someone who seemed even more casual with his vote than most of the others today.

Vote Path

Not casual at all -- when I had to drop out of the last game because Barkeep had some info on there I shouldn't have seen, I promised him my next day 1 vote.

I like to keep my promises.

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119

Why are we assuming he was manipulated? If he was, by far it would be you since i thought when i first read the comment it was you since chubby had voted for you.

Im far more likely to believe saldana read the vote as for him and reacted, then realized his mistake but it was too late to change the post. A slip up of sorts, which is the best i see today

I think the way he denyed it is far more eyebrow-raising than the act itself. If he had offered an explaination it would've been fine, but instead he was all 'What threat?' then 'Oh that threat, well I don't know who I was talking about'.

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Somebody take a guess who manipulated saldana. I have a couple guys in mind, I'd like to hear ideas.

I'm not sure he was. Seems like a power that could be put to much better use later in the game, no?

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Blade, the very idea that Saldana isn't going bananas right now reacting to votes against him for something he considers illogical supports the idea that he isn't a bad guy. I recognize this is a bit of a reach, but you have played enough games with him to know that he goes bonkers when cornered in these games. But today he has removed himself from the conversation until right before the deadline.

Thats the problem, he went bonkers when it all went down and he had the three vote lead. It was after he convinced fouts off and a few other canidates came up that he went calmer(or personal life, which he openly stated was a problem today). Im not saying he went sndvls crazy

, but his off the wall defense claiming how pissed he was, threatening votes, and then accusing me of being after him(which i am now, but wasnt then) seems pretty bonkers to me. No?

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:29 PM

agree with tanglewood's analysis ... my guess is that Blade (or whoever did that) was trying to get saldana out of the game ... and if it was Blade, he's now trying to divert attention away from a play that didn't work out

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:29 PM

OK, then why not make the vote count since as it sits right now we have a legitimate race emerging that doesn't involve Barkeep? You put out the ceremonial vote, but with 30 minutes left today it isn't going to be a factor in making today's decision.

I recognize that by pushing you in this way you could just cast it on me and put me in danger. But I don't think that would end up looking too good when the deadline rolls around ...

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, then why not make the vote count since as it sits right now we have a legitimate race emerging that doesn't involve Barkeep? You put out the ceremonial vote, but with 30 minutes left today it isn't going to be a factor in making today's decision.

I recognize that by pushing you in this way you could just cast it on me and put me in danger. But I don't think that would end up looking too good when the deadline rolls around ...

I think Blade is now in the lead ...

KWhit · 07-31-2006, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanglewood

I think the way he denyed it is far more eyebrow-raising than the act itself. If he had offered an explaination it would've been fine, but instead he was all 'What threat?' then 'Oh that threat, well I don't know who I was talking about'.

Exactly. He was either clearly manipulated or is very effectively acting the part.

I don't buy for a second that he mis-reacted to a vote that wasn't to him.

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:31 PM

This is what I show for votes as of Post #211:
Barkeep - Path (136)
Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158), Fouts (203)
Fouts - Chubby (143)
Hoops - AlanT (172), Swaggs (181)
Rum - Fouts (179)
Path - Hoops (195)
Blade - Cronin (201) - double vote?

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think Blade is now in the lead ...

How so, your the only one with a vote on me. Even with your 2vote thing, saldana has 3 on him(myself, schmidty, and fouts)

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, then why not make the vote count since as it sits right now we have a legitimate race emerging that doesn't involve Barkeep? You put out the ceremonial vote, but with 30 minutes left today it isn't going to be a factor in making today's decision.

I recognize that by pushing you in this way you could just cast it on me and put me in danger. But I don't think that would end up looking too good when the deadline rolls around ...

If you want to push further, I will vote for you. But you do make a point, so I'll ask if anyone's got a vote count handy and will then decide whether to switch or not.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Rum - Fouts (179)

Wha?

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:33 PM

Dola, crosspost on the vote count.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade6119

How so, your the only one with a vote on me. Even with your 2vote thing, saldana has 3 on him(myself, schmidty, and fouts)

You are right, I counted wrong. Well, I don't think I'll move it. I think saldana is likely clear.

KWhit · 07-31-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

agree with tanglewood's analysis ... my guess is that Blade (or whoever did that) was trying to get saldana out of the game ... and if it was Blade, he's now trying to divert attention away from a play that didn't work out

Agreed.

Vote Blade.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:37 PM

I have to head to work...saldana is my pick based on how weird he was today, but id be happy with anyone but myself i suppose(except alan, want to hear who his bad guy was)....do try not to lynch me, and have a good evening everyone

Fouts · 07-31-2006, 08:38 PM

Well I didn't unvote Chief Rum.

Unvote Chief Rum

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:38 PM

Upon re-reading posts 144-154 Saldana does sound pretty strange/paranoid without much provocation. But I still think he would be here fighting bitterly to the end if he were a Dimir based on past behavior.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Agreed.

Vote Blade.

If i wanted saldana out of the game as a bad guy, i would take him out night 1. Using manipulation on day 1 seems odd, as it would be better used late in the game after the seer reveals to clear yourself or something similar. I did not manipulate saldana in any way, am not bad in any way, and dont want to be lynched. Test any of that if we have a truthful comment guy.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Upon re-reading posts 144-154 Saldana does sound pretty strange/paranoid without much provocation. But I still think he would be here fighting bitterly to the end if he were a Dimir based on past behavior.

He just said he had personal life problems that wouldnt allow him to be here...i understand what your saying, but personal life trumps dimir life.

Blade6119 · 07-31-2006, 08:40 PM

And i really have to go now...dont lynch me, im good...not much more then that i can say on day 1.

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:44 PM

I'm going to go with Blade for the vote
1.) I don't want to kill the one guy who knows Magic on Day 1
2.) In terms of roles, Blade has a less important role
3.) I told Path to make his vote count, so I should do the same

UNVOTE PATH
VOTE BLADE

path12 · 07-31-2006, 08:45 PM

Speaking of real life, I've gotta run. I find it odd that hoops singled out my vote on barkeep than the other one-person voters (including him), but the most suspicious is saldana.

Unvote Barkeep
Vote saldana

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:51 PM

Ugh, I think that makes it 4-4.

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:52 PM

Path, the difference between the two of us is that I was likely in a position of having to move my vote later for self-preservation. You were not under any such pressure.

The only other person with one vote out there is Chubby. I would encourage him to make his vote count as well, but he wasn't in the room to talk to about this.

Barkeep49 · 07-31-2006, 08:52 PM

Ok have no clue here. And am quite time crunched. Only skimmed over the day. But I guess if called to believe one group or the other, I feel compelled to

Vote saldana

I nearly flipped a coin here, frankly. So if he comes up guilty I won't really pretend to take credit.

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:55 PM

Vote Blade

If only because he went after Saldana and I think it's more likely Saldana is a good guy being manipulated than a bad guy acting a bit stupid and getting himself noticed.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:56 PM

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:56 PM

Whats the current count? If it's a tie I'll move off.

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:56 PM

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:57 PM

Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158), Fouts (203), Path (227), Barkeep (230)

Fouts - Chubby (143)

Hoops - AlanT (172), Swaggs (181)

Blade - Cronin (201), KWhit (219), Hoops (226), Tangle (231)

st.cronin · 07-31-2006, 08:57 PM

Remember though my vote counts DOUBLE

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:58 PM

No votes for Saldana or Chief Rum.

saldana · 07-31-2006, 08:58 PM

vote blade

self preservation only at this point.

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:58 PM

Well, reluctantly..

Unvote Blade

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 08:58 PM

Er, no votes cast by Saldana or Chief Rum. And Saldana is now in the thread with 2 minutes to go.

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 08:59 PM

lol, whoops

Vote Blade

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 08:59 PM

Time Check

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 08:59 PM

Another Time Check

saldana · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

i urge everyone to reconsider their votes on me....i want to tell you who i was talking to, but i just cant

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

And One More for Good Luck

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

That is time

hoopsguy · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

Someone anxious to run the lynch?

tanglewood · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

Isn't deadline voting oh so much fun.

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 09:00 PM

I'll double check the votes and get this posted

Abe Sargent · 07-31-2006, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Someone anxious to run the lynch?

My clock said 9:00 when I posted the first time check

07-31-2006, 08:24 PM	#201
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	ok - well, it seems like I do this once a game, and it never works out, but Vote Blade __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:29 PM	#209
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	agree with tanglewood's analysis ... my guess is that Blade (or whoever did that) was trying to get saldana out of the game ... and if it was Blade, he's now trying to divert attention away from a play that didn't work out __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:33 PM	#217
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Dola, crosspost on the vote count. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-31-2006, 08:37 PM	#220
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	I have to head to work...saldana is my pick based on how weird he was today, but id be happy with anyone but myself i suppose(except alan, want to hear who his bad guy was)....do try not to lynch me, and have a good evening everyone __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

07-31-2006, 08:40 PM	#225
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	And i really have to go now...dont lynch me, im good...not much more then that i can say on day 1. __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

07-31-2006, 08:25 PM	#203
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Well, I have to vote for somebody with votes to save myself from cronin. This guy has acted suspiciously all day. Vote saldana

07-31-2006, 08:25 PM	#204
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Blade, the very idea that Saldana isn't going bananas right now reacting to votes against him for something he considers illogical supports the idea that he isn't a bad guy. I recognize this is a bit of a reach, but you have played enough games with him to know that he goes bonkers when cornered in these games. But today he has removed himself from the conversation until right before the deadline. Again, I really don't want to be forced to cast a vote against him because I don't think he is the enemy today. There are three of them out there, so I think we have pretty good odds of getting one. But we won't if you vote for me and I don't think we will if we vote for Saldana.

07-31-2006, 08:29 PM	#210
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, then why not make the vote count since as it sits right now we have a legitimate race emerging that doesn't involve Barkeep? You put out the ceremonial vote, but with 30 minutes left today it isn't going to be a factor in making today's decision. I recognize that by pushing you in this way you could just cast it on me and put me in danger. But I don't think that would end up looking too good when the deadline rolls around ...

07-31-2006, 08:31 PM	#213
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	This is what I show for votes as of Post #211: Barkeep - Path (136) Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158), Fouts (203) Fouts - Chubby (143) Hoops - AlanT (172), Swaggs (181) Rum - Fouts (179) Path - Hoops (195) Blade - Cronin (201) - double vote?

07-31-2006, 08:38 PM	#221
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Well I didn't unvote Chief Rum. Unvote Chief Rum

07-31-2006, 08:38 PM	#222
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Upon re-reading posts 144-154 Saldana does sound pretty strange/paranoid without much provocation. But I still think he would be here fighting bitterly to the end if he were a Dimir based on past behavior.

07-31-2006, 08:44 PM	#226
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm going to go with Blade for the vote 1.) I don't want to kill the one guy who knows Magic on Day 1 2.) In terms of roles, Blade has a less important role 3.) I told Path to make his vote count, so I should do the same UNVOTE PATH VOTE BLADE

07-31-2006, 08:45 PM	#227
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Speaking of real life, I've gotta run. I find it odd that hoops singled out my vote on barkeep than the other one-person voters (including him), but the most suspicious is saldana. Unvote Barkeep Vote saldana __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-31-2006, 08:51 PM	#228
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Ugh, I think that makes it 4-4. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:52 PM	#229
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Path, the difference between the two of us is that I was likely in a position of having to move my vote later for self-preservation. You were not under any such pressure. The only other person with one vote out there is Chubby. I would encourage him to make his vote count as well, but he wasn't in the room to talk to about this.

07-31-2006, 08:52 PM	#230
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok have no clue here. And am quite time crunched. Only skimmed over the day. But I guess if called to believe one group or the other, I feel compelled to Vote saldana I nearly flipped a coin here, frankly. So if he comes up guilty I won't really pretend to take credit.

07-31-2006, 08:55 PM	#231
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Vote Blade If only because he went after Saldana and I think it's more likely Saldana is a good guy being manipulated than a bad guy acting a bit stupid and getting himself noticed.

07-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#232
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	lol __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#233
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Whats the current count? If it's a tie I'll move off.

07-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#234
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	5-5 __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:57 PM	#235
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Saldana - Blade (139), Schmidty (158), Fouts (203), Path (227), Barkeep (230) Fouts - Chubby (143) Hoops - AlanT (172), Swaggs (181) Blade - Cronin (201), KWhit (219), Hoops (226), Tangle (231)

07-31-2006, 08:57 PM	#236
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Remember though my vote counts DOUBLE __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-31-2006, 08:58 PM	#237
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No votes for Saldana or Chief Rum.

07-31-2006, 08:58 PM	#238
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	vote blade self preservation only at this point.

07-31-2006, 08:58 PM	#239
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Well, reluctantly.. Unvote Blade

07-31-2006, 08:58 PM	#240
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Er, no votes cast by Saldana or Chief Rum. And Saldana is now in the thread with 2 minutes to go.

07-31-2006, 08:59 PM	#241
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	lol, whoops Vote Blade

07-31-2006, 08:59 PM	#242
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Time Check __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-31-2006, 08:59 PM	#243
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Another Time Check __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#244
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	i urge everyone to reconsider their votes on me....i want to tell you who i was talking to, but i just cant

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#245
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	And One More for Good Luck __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#246
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	That is time __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#247
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Someone anxious to run the lynch?

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#248
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Isn't deadline voting oh so much fun.

07-31-2006, 09:00 PM	#249
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I'll double check the votes and get this posted __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent