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DGB leaves Oklahoma as the greatest scout team player in team history.
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01-06-2015, 09:15 PM | #202 |
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I'm curious, is there a place that has statistics on star ratings? Like the percent of 5*, 4*, etc recruits that make the NFL or are drafted in the 1st round? Also, what about the performance of these players in college? I see that Melvin Gordon was 4* and Ameer Abdullah was 3* somewhere. Are there data points that show statistically the 5* recruits perform better than the 4* ones. I understand 5* recruits are probably going to get more opportunities, even if they don't perform well. I'm just looking for some data.
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01-06-2015, 09:31 PM | #204 |
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Here's a one year look at what I think you're after.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...tars-two-stars
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01-08-2015, 05:31 PM | #205 |
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Chuma and the other EE's are all enrolled and on USC's campus now. |
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01-09-2015, 11:55 AM | #207 |
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Kenny Hill is leaving A&M and transferring to TCU.
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01-09-2015, 12:32 PM | #208 |
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Newsome or Strickland to Texas?
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01-09-2015, 12:40 PM | #209 |
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I think Strickland is still a slight UCLA lean. In other Texas Tech news, walk-on QB Vincent Testaverde has announced he'll transfer to his dad's alma mater.
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01-09-2015, 01:30 PM | #210 |
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RB Markel Smith gets caught cheating on his ACT.
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01-10-2015, 09:54 AM | #211 |
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Figured this was as good a place as any.
Pretty interesting stuff, IYAM Confessions of a Fixer - Athletics - The Chronicle of Higher Education |
01-13-2015, 01:47 PM | #212 |
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Saw that Jeremy Crabtree over at Rivals.com believes that an early signing period for football has overcome some significant hurdles and could happen sooner rather than later.
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01-13-2015, 02:55 PM | #213 |
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There doesn't need to be an early signing period. A lot of kids can't visit until January. It's basically the cries of fans who lose kids to flips in December/January
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01-13-2015, 03:27 PM | #214 |
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No there is a lot of movement towards an early signing period by HS coaches and athletes.
To your point about kids not being able to visit until Januray, the proposal is not an earlier signing period, but an alternate early signing period. IOW Feb 1 remains NSD, however an option day, say Sep 1 where by if a kid wants to and a school will accept him he can committ and sign prior to his senior football season cutting off all contact from other coaches and allowing him to focus on his senior year. I'd wager we will see it within the next 3 years |
01-13-2015, 06:41 PM | #215 |
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I understand the positives of it. September 1st would be a terrible day. Not specifically that date, but how early that is. You'd have players signing and I'd saying a good portion of those would be asking out come January.
I'd imagine a Dec. 1st signing date would be more preferable than September 1st, but at that point, you are arguing over 2 months, not that big of a difference. I know most people point to basketball's two signing periods, but it works much better because it's a "winter" sport, not a fall sport. Personally, kids should never sign NLI's, they should just sign scholarship paperwork, but that's too simple of a solution. |
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Dec 1 serves no purpose.
Again high school coaches are pushing for this so kids can concentrate on their senior season. Let me relay this example. Mickey Conn, coach at Grayson HS. Couple years ago when he had the "Grayson 5" headlined,of course,by Robert Nkemdiche he said he had as many as 18 college coaches come by in a given day. One day 18 coaches. 18 times a kid was pu!led out of class. That's not an isolated incident. 18 is outrageous. 4-5 a day every day is pretty common. I know kids (multiple) whose family have stopped mail delivery service . others who have canceled their cell service or had their pre paid monthly plans exhausted in hours. Of course some kids enjoy the attention, they can wait until Feb.for the one as that want it over they can end it. Also the notion that a "good portion" would want out I think is flawed. For numbers Clemson had18 kids committed on Sep 1. 15 of those are now enrolled as early enrollees.1 is waiting to enroll this summer to enjoy his senior year, the other 2 were cut loose by Clemson. The calendar has moved up. The rules need to adapt. |
01-13-2015, 10:36 PM | #217 |
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I don't think it's as selfless as you say. Coaches want this so they can direct resources towards uncommitted players rather than have to babysit players until February.
I'd like this deal, coaches get the early signing day, but in exchange players get a guaranteed four years. I bet that will suddenly make the coaches far less concerned about the senior year distractions.
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1 - Its the HS coaches I reference not the college coaches. 2 - I fully agree it should be a 4 year deal so long as the player does what he is supposed to 3 - I think an early signing should include langauge to allow a prospect out if coaching changes are made. I actually have a lot of thoughts here but not gonna type em all tonight. |
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01-14-2015, 09:21 AM | #219 |
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Sorry about that. I completely missed the HS part.
It looks like we're on the same page for most things. What do you think about allowing players to transfer immediately to a non-power 5 conference after head coaching changes?
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At one point in time I would have been for it. Then I once heard an interesting conversation between Clemson's current HC and a big time prospect that totally changed my perspective there. Rumors were swirling that this prospects position coach was entertaining offers to leave and take a promotion at another school. The recruit questioned it and the answer changed my mind and solidified what a salesman Dabo was at the same time. (FYI I'm no where near close enough to normally be this close, it was just a fate thing... I was in the football admin building catching up with an old friend in a hallway and the conversation happened around a corner.) His statement was this, "Look I have the reassurance from Coach X that - that rumor is false. However if you committ to Clemson it needs to be because you want to be here. Look tomorrow isnt promised for any of us. And I'm not just talking about here and X. Dont committ to me either. I may not wake up tomorrow.Dont go to Bama because of Nick Saban(BTW kid had a Bama offer as well). No one knows when their last days on this earth are. Your decision needs to be the fiber of the institution that attracts you. The campus, the atmosphere, the location, those are all real tangible things. Think a step further. I am 45 years old, you are 19. In 40 years odds are Im going to be in a box in the ground. You are going to be 59 playing with grandkids and telling the stories about the Superbowls you won. (joking) You are not going to be telling those kids "I am a former player of Dabo's. You are going to be telling them 'I am a Clemson Tiger'. If that isnt your draw. Then you dont need to come here. You need to find wherever that place is for you. Because there is somewhere that is and always will be a second home. And when you find it, you wont care who is standing on the sidelines. Today, tomorrow or next year" Sorry for the tangent. But that sums up my feelings. Every kid needs to hear that. Last edited by CU Tiger : 01-14-2015 at 01:09 PM. |
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So, without naming names, curious, did the prospect end up going to Clemson?
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01-14-2015, 03:49 PM | #222 |
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Excellent post, CU.
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A little early, but a kid my brother coaches is Anthony Hines III (2017) LB
He already has over 100 offers.
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Haha that doesn't really keep much under wraps, does it? Lol... thanks, CU, good story.
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Scout #2 TE Alize Jones decommits from UCLA and flips to Notre Dame...finally.
First time I ever kinda wanted a 5 star kid to decommit (I never felt he was coming after he started waffling a few months ago). Now UCLA can go full bore after Chris Clark...the Scout #1 TE.
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01-15-2015, 02:29 PM | #227 |
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One day we'll get the parents on board
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01-16-2015, 04:10 PM | #228 |
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How much do 112 wins cost you might ask?
Apparently $60 million. Joe Paterno's 111 wins that were vacated will be restored - ESPN
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Being able to point to Rudolph, Eifert and Niklas getting drafted early sounds like the bigger selling point there.
Great week for ND, with Jones finally flipping, Tillery and Coney turning down late SEC attempts and enrolling, and the biggest impact players for 2015 in Sheldon Day and Ronnie Stanley both returning (as well as KeiVarae Russell). Don't want to get too excited before seeing how the QB battle shakes out (Golson can't transfer until the summer) and seeing which players are suspended for academics this year, but this team looks loaded at every position except RB and S. |
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I think Nico Fertitta is the only selling point
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Only selling point needed lol
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Not sure if there's a joke I'm missing, but hey, whatever helps with a Bishop Gorman pipeline!
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Nicco wanted to go to Notre Dame, and Lorenzo is probably not going to have his kid living in a dorm on campus. So Nicco's friend will probably not be doing so bad either.
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Jones is close friends with Nico Fertitta. Think of him as the Roby Toma to Manti Teo. Because the friendship pre-dates any sort of recruitment, distance to Notre Dame isn't a factor as the families will likely travel together. It is what it is. |
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Is it that it puts a price on the crime? If $60 M is gained for these poor children so that an asterisk will be removed from an NCAA record book, I don't have a big problem with that.
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01-19-2015, 02:20 PM | #237 |
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Early signing period has been recommended by conference commissioners. It would start december 16th and last 72 hours. This makes a lot of sense and helps both players and schools.
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Horrible compromise. Coaches are in the heart of bowl prep here and the damage to the senior yar has already been done. Useless. |
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IMO it should be right after camp season, but it's a step in the right direction. The December date is a huge benefit to the players. The kids get to find out where they are in the pecking order with more than a month and a half to signing day. This hurts schools that tend to oversign and/or cut players loose late in the process. |
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Oh BTW. Cornelius, NC CB Mark Fields committee tonight to Clemson.
By my count this class is done, unless the last remaining shark (a lb) wants to join. According to rivals.com that gives Clemson 5 of the top 50 payers nationally and 7 of the top 100. That's nearly Bama/FSU level. Last edited by CU Tiger : 01-19-2015 at 10:21 PM. |
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01-23-2015, 07:05 PM | #243 |
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Osa Masina to USC, as expected. Darn you Notre Dame for completely mailing it in vs USC when he was on his visit
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He has been a silent for a few months reportedly. Huge pickup. The 5 star linebacker should be the next great one for USC.
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01-23-2015, 08:34 PM | #245 |
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Probably since the Notre Dame game. Not sure it was the right business decision, but Tui is one heck of a recruiter.
USC has pulled a couple of kids scholarships to make way for their pending 5*'s. The downside of recruiting sadly. Now if they could only do it to Dominic Davis.. Last edited by MrBug708 : 01-23-2015 at 08:40 PM. |
01-23-2015, 08:34 PM | #246 |
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UCLA lands 4* WR out of Texas, Ryan Newsome. Watching the video, you can tell he's torn. UCLA usually loses the family battle
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01-27-2015, 06:44 PM | #247 |
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I was doing some light reading about the offseason.
How the fuck does Florida not have a single top 50 player from the state of Florida. I don't know if I can recall a major program having this bad a class. |
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Michigan and Florida both outside the top 50.... Shocking.
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01-27-2015, 08:36 PM | #249 |
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Michigan is shadow offering all of ucla's verbals it seems
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Michigan and Florida have new coaches, and I think they were going to be small classes anyway.
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