Werewolf CLX - Atlantic City - GAME OVER

[fontisian]

You should have bet on everyone.

[Autumn]

Day 1 Voting

1 Fontisian -------- mauchow (103)
1 Britrock88 ------- narcizo (105)
2 Coffee Warlord - The Jackal (114), danny (163)
4 DaddyTorgo ----- Coffee Warlord (133), britrock88 (146), zinto (153), Inblue (184)
3 JAG -------------- bulletsponge (136), Darth Vilus (140), murrayyy (178)
5 bulletsponge ---- fontisian (138), path12 (142), chief rum (145), JAG (191), daddytorgo (193)

[Autumn]

This is what I have.

[Autumn]

Everybody knows there's rotten folk in the city, and you're determined to get rid of them. Maybe you don't have much evidence one way or the other but sometimes you gotta play a hunch. Today the best bet seems Bulletsponge. With a name like that, the guy's gotta be packing heat, right?

Bullet gets hauled in by the Atlantic City PD. He's going to be sitting on ice for quite a while. Trouble is, word on the street is that the DA's going to have egg in his face. Bulletsponge was nothing more than your regular, everyday barber. Maybe he had a bit of a gambling problem, but doesn't everyone?

Bulletsponge was a Resident.

[Autumn]

Night One is beginning. I will be processing bids and bets.

[mauchow]

Ah! Forgot to check back in before deadljne.. sorry. Tucking lil guy in And gettin leah ready.

If it wasn't obvious my vote was on who I bid on. Oh well. I was gonna peetend there was no way nobody would vote that quickly for their bid.

Oh well.

[fontisian]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Ah! Forgot to check back in before deadljne.. sorry. Tucking lil guy in And gettin leah ready.

If it wasn't obvious my vote was on who I bid on. Oh well. I was gonna peetend there was no way nobody would vote that quickly for their bid.

Oh well.

Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line.

Bullet: Sorry about leading the lynch, man.

[Autumn]

Day 1 Service Costs

Below you can see what were the winning bids on today's services.

Mick "Stones" McGee - $0
Donna Black Investigations - $1000
Cookie's Ladies - $277
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $402
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350

[The Jackal]

My goodness, I wonder who bought the seer

[mauchow]

I got the wire transfer. Woot!

[mauchow]

And no bg winner for the village.. sheesh.

[Autumn]

I believe that all winning bets and bids have been processed. If you think I've made a mistake, let me know.

Night One has begun. Please begin placing your bets on tomorrow's lynch. All bets are due by 9 AM EST.

[mauchow]

If we could have bid on multiple items I would have put at least 25 on all to ensure stuff got bid on..damn.

[JAG]

That's probably why he put that restriction in there, makes things more challenging. That said, shame on us (villagers). Hell, I would've bought the night kill if I had known the bad guys wouldn't put in a properly decent bid for it. Maybe I'll do that next time.

[bulletsponge]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Day 1 Service Costs

Below you can see what were the winning bids on today's services.

Mick "Stones" McGee - $0
Donna Black Investigations - $1000
Cookie's Ladies - $277
Sandy Back Messenger Service - $0
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - $27

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - $402
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - $350

its probably best that i died, i had no idea what any of that means or is

[The Jackal]

that's one of the things that makes this game so cool since there aren't traditional role mechanisms and they can shift owners each night.

i seem to recall in the last game the money investigator ended up being huge late in the game trying to find someone who was lying about how much cash they had on hand

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Non-revealer? I posted earlier that I had a busy day and wasn't going to be around. Just sat down at my computer after dinner and catching up.

I'm talking about that one game a couple months ago where you were on the block for the first 3 days as seer and never revealed, and the tie-breaking gods smote me and CR for trying to ride it out.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

DT, CF or Jag...

I wish we were trying to have to read CF right now...

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by britrock88

I wish we were trying to have to read CF right now...

I realized it after I typed it...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by britrock88

I'm talking about that one game a couple months ago where you were on the block for the first 3 days as seer and never revealed, and the tie-breaking gods smote me and CR for trying to ride it out.

Haha that sucked. We were going good, too! Lol

[path12]

Originally Posted by Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Manchego (officially Queso Manchego) is a cheese made in the La Mancha region of Spain from the milk of sheep of the Manchega breed. Official Manchego cheese is to be aged for between 60 days and two years.

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

You gotta be patient! TWO YEARS MAN!

Just two and a half weeks using yak's milk.

[Narcizo]

Day One

#103 11:13 mauchow votes fontisian (1)
#104 00:40 path12 votes Zinto (1)
#105 07:58 narcizo votes britrock (1)
#114 09:40 Jackal votes Coffee (1)
#133 13:57 Coffee votes DaddyTorgo (1)
#134 14:25 JAG votes Coffee (2)
#136 15:45 Bullet votes JAG (1)
#138 16:01 fontisian votes Bullet (1)
#140 16:11 Darth Vilus votes JAG (2)
#142 16:51 Path unvotes Zinto (0), votes Bullet (2)
#144 16:53 InBlue votes JAG (3)

#145 16:56 Chief votes Bullet (3)
#146 17:18 Brit votes DT (2)
#152 19:07 Zinto votes DT (3)
#155 19:49 DT votes COffee (3)
#163 20:16 Danny votes Coffee (4)
#178 20:32 murra5y votes JAG (4)
#184 20:40 InBlue unvotes JAG (3), Votes DT (4)
#191 20:46 JAG unvotes Coffee (3), votes Bullet (4)
#193 20:52 DT unvotes Coffee (3), votes Bullet (5)

1 Fontisian -------- mauchow (103)
1 Britrock88 ------- narcizo (105)
2 Coffee Warlord - The Jackal (114), danny (163)
4 DaddyTorgo ----- Coffee Warlord (133), britrock88 (146), zinto (153), Inblue (184)
3 JAG -------------- bulletsponge (136), Darth Vilus (140), murrayyy (178)
5 bulletsponge ---- fontisian (138), path12 (142), chief rum (145), JAG (191), daddytorgo (193)

[Narcizo]

No reason not to stick that up before deadline methinks. It can be edited with extra colour afterwards.

Don't really know what you can read into the votes. One thing I've been thinking is that in this sort of game if I was a wolf I'd be much more likely to vote to save a team-mate, for two reasons.
1) Assuming there are three wolves they are 13:3, with another team that might co-ordinate against them. They're going to need to cover their butts. And they get extra value from having more team-mates alive because of the sharing of resources, ability to coordinate bets etc etc.
2) Voting a team-mate isn't going to prevent them from being nightkilled if the other team get the hitman. In fact if they get trust that way they might be more likely to be taken out.

So in recent games there's been a lot of hot wolf-on-wolf voting. There might be this game as well, but I think there will be less team-mate vs team-mate voting. Unless the wolf is a usual seer scan target (Danny, Chief, JAG) - in which case they might reckon on being scanned and try to get trust for a team-mate.

[JAG]

I agree Narc. The other thing is just because someone votes a wolf doesn't mean they aren't on the other team. I think last go-around with this rule set I used orange for one mobster color and red for another to keep straight who voted for which wolf team.

[JAG]

Also, if I'm still alive, I'll be out a good chunk of the morning at a meeting.

[Autumn]

Sorry, late morning with my kids. Going to get caught up now and start processing results.

[Autumn]

Dawn breaks on Atlantic City. There is hope and there is worry. People hit the boardwalk and the beach and the casinos, grabbing the newspaper as they do so. It seems like a quiet night in the city. No big news to report. Happy Gambling!

[Autumn]

Voting is open. Day 2 Services will be listed momentarily.

[JAG]

Very interesting, especially since we know no one won the BG. Last game when I won the night kill as a villager and used it on a mobster, the guy wouldn't make the kill because he was afraid of mob retribution. I wonder if that's what happened here.

[mauchow]

If that's the case that villager needs to come out immediately.

[mauchow]

Well maybe not immediately but sometime today after votes.

[Autumn]

There's even more services for sale today in the seaside city. Send in your bid for one service to me privately. All bids are due by 9 pm EST.

DAY TWO SERVICES FOR HIRE

Mick "Stones" McGee - Hired muscle for the guy who wants some protection
Donna Black Investigations - When you need somebody checked out
Cookie's Ladies - Send somebody a "friend" to entertain them through the night
Sandy Back Messenger Service - When you need to send a message fast
Casino2Casino Wire Transfer - When you want to send a buck to a friend
Eternity Investments - Put some money away for a rainy day
Freddie von Maur, Casino Manager - having a friend in the House pays off

BLACKMARKET SERVICES - HIRE AT YOUR OWN RISK
The Money Hole - money lending for the desperate gambler
Joe "Creaky" Reitzler - they say that Creaky will make a guy disappear for you
"Smiling Jane" Smith - her light fingers will dip in someone's wallet for you
Jameson Gundy, DA - a crooked DA can clean your record up like new

[Chief Rum]

Well, I can't speak tot he mystery of the missing nightkill, but I was the one who bought the seer.

It appears that Mr. JAG is squeaky clean. Actually the investigator specifically stated he spent the night "trimming his nails."

I feel much better knowing I don't have to worry about JAG as mafia.

[JAG]

Pretty funny. For those who weren't around in the first game, I bought the seer the first day and scanned Chief, who was clear.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by JAG

Pretty funny. For those who weren't around in the first game, I bought the seer the first day and scanned Chief, who was clear.

That's funny. I completely forgot about that.

[Coffee Warlord]

I find it moderately odd Danny didn't switch his vote last night, when it moved away from me. He usually gets into the mix.

[path12]

I am suspicious of buying a seer scan. It strikes me as the easiest way for a wolf to find some cover.

How much weight should we put on the scan that Chief bought? Wouldn't that be the first service I'd be hiring as a bad guy?

Dunno. It's a half clear at most for me.

[Coffee Warlord]

While I agree, I also daresay it's going to be a tough, tough road to victory if we second guess everyone who buys the seer.

[Coffee Warlord]

Half clear was kinda where I was positioned there as well.

[Coffee Warlord]

TOO QUIET.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by path12

I am suspicious of buying a seer scan. It strikes me as the easiest way for a wolf to find some cover.

How much weight should we put on the scan that Chief bought? Wouldn't that be the first service I'd be hiring as a bad guy?

Dunno. It's a half clear at most for me.

If I were you, I would feel the same way. Seer clears are way different in this game than other games. I don't really expect anyone to accept it until they feel okay about me. For me, it was worth it to know that JAG is clear, so I at least feel I can trust him.

[path12]

It would be nice if there was a way to coordinate so the seer and whoever buys the scan for the day don't end up scanning the same person but I can't think of a good way to do that.

[path12]

Or maybe it's best this way -- if a wolf buys the scan and clears someone who isn't then the regular seer could catch it out? There is a regular seer as well right?

Off to the rules again.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Autumn

ROLES

The game will consist of villagers, and two separate groups of mafia. For the most part, villagers and wolves will be vanilla only, with services (see below) replacing the abilities of typical Werewolf roles.

Oh. Well then. Never mind my last post.

[Chief Rum]

Heh... I was starting to wonder what you were on.

Yeah, no dice there with a regular seer.

[JAG]

Wow, no votes and only a handful of posts.

Originally Posted by path12

I am suspicious of buying a seer scan. It strikes me as the easiest way for a wolf to find some cover.

How much weight should we put on the scan that Chief bought? Wouldn't that be the first service I'd be hiring as a bad guy?

Dunno. It's a half clear at most for me.

I trust his scan.

In all seriousness, while it doesn't say anything about Chief, I think you can make a decent argument I'm a good bit more likely to be a villager than not given the scan result. The one disconcerting thing could be that Chirf and I are teammates, but given I would then be a likely NK target for the other team and my death would then lead to his death, that doesn't seem to be a high reward play.

[mauchow]

Obvious route is to look at jag voters

[mauchow]

So its murrayyy or dv for me.

vote murrayyy

Was not my bet.. damn it!

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Obvious route is to look at jag voters

Why not Bullet voters?

[murrayyyyy]

Originally Posted by mauchow

Was not my bet.. damn it!

At least you put in a bet...

I'll be silent for 4 more hours probably and then try to catch up. Nothing like being the only one with brain cells this week at work.