Werewolf Small Game V: FOFC MRSKIPPY AND HORNSMANIAC WIN!!!

[Barkeep49]

DC it's great. You are now insta trusted.

[Lathum]

DC, look at it this way. Goldeneagle would have been lynched tonight if you weren't so at least we got a trusted villegar out of it

[GoldenEagle]

WTF? What do you have against me Dodgerchick? That is the second game in a row that you have killed me. That is some BS.

And great going, you cost your a team a critical member and a great way of getting information because of some personal vendetta.

And yes I edited this post.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

And yes I edited this post.

LOL

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

WTF? What do you have against me Dodgerchick? That is the second game in a row that you have killed me. That is some BS.

And great going, you cost your a team a critical member and a great way of getting information because of some personal vendetta.

And yes I edited this post.

GE I'm surprised to see this. As the duke she was on the block. Duking you, the second leading vote getter, is the least likely to draw criticism. Anyhow, it seems the good guys ALWAYS lose their BG early in these games. Heck, in the last game they lost BGs on consecutive nights.

What we need to do is start a "I'm bitter I got killed" thread because I certainly have some choice words sometimes when I get taken out.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

GE I'm surprised to see this. As the duke she was on the block. Duking you, the second leading vote getter, is the least likely to draw criticism. Anyhow, it seems the good guys ALWAYS lose their BG early in these games. Heck, in the last game they lost BGs on consecutive nights.

What we need to do is start a "I'm bitter I got killed" thread because I certainly have some choice words sometimes when I get taken out.

Actually last game i was the BG, and i blocked the first two nights

LSG, I STILL LOVE YA!!!!

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

GE I'm surprised to see this. As the duke she was on the block. Duking you, the second leading vote getter, is the least likely to draw criticism. Anyhow, it seems the good guys ALWAYS lose their BG early in these games. Heck, in the last game they lost BGs on consecutive nights.

What we need to do is start a "I'm bitter I got killed" thread because I certainly have some choice words sometimes when I get taken out.

If it was just one time, I could understand it. But she lead the charge against me the last game I was in as well. Why not just duke ardent, who asked out of the game for crying out loud? I am also sure she is not worried about suspicion, since it is confirmed that she is good now. There NO justifiable reason of killing me.

I guess Werewolf Small Game VI should be entitled "Take out your aggression on GE".* At least I know I will die early then.

*Night 1 Ends at 9AM EST

[Lathum]

GE. Maybe she thought you were bad?

[GoldenEagle]

Originally Posted by Lathum

GE. Maybe she thought you were bad?

I doubt very seriously it had anything to do with that. I would love to here her evidence if that was the case. I am done with the issue though and am going to take my huge genitalia elsewhere. I had some great HA quotes prepared as well, when we won the game.

[Lorena]

Well, it's 3 and a half hours later and I'm still fuming. I told Antmeister what I did and I must be really fucking stupid for saying what I did because he even knew I shouldn't have said that.

Jesus effing Christ, I'm such a fucking idiot. Sorry for putting us in this predicament but I honestly thought GE was evil.

And GoldenEagle, I don't have anything against you and I hardly let any charge last game all I did was place the first vote to get you out, that's all. I'm not sure why you voted for me yesterday to tie it and in the end making it worse for us. Oh well, your dreams of being Hell Atlantic are gone, sorry 'bout that.

No matter what so called evidence we have, analysis, whatever ain't for shit. Villagers say and do things that get them in trouble and wolves do things that "no wolf would ever do". I have come to realize that this game is nothing but a game of chance and fuzzy math.

[Raiders Army]

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

RA, I will need replaced. I'm heading home this weekend, and then I have to travel 13 hours or so for a funeral. I'll be out tomorrow through Thursday.

I apologize for any problems I've caused. I can stay through tomorrow morning until noon.

WVUFan has graciously accepted ardent's role. Night results coming.

[Raiders Army]

After a night where there is no protection from evil, there is no hero with a sandwich to protect you, and there is still mrskippy creating mayhem, you realize that Alan T is banned from the board. It appears as if it is the work of someone other than mrskippy...

Day 3 begins and lynch votes are due at 10 PM EST.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

I have come to realize that this game is nothing but a game of chance and fuzzy math.

This made me laugh a lot. I think I feel that way about 70% of the time, while the other 30% involves me thinking I have keen insight into the souls of my fellow players. Just about the same ratio I have for poker

[Alan T]

Good luck good guys! Night killed twice in one week, guess people don't like playing with me!

[JeeberD]

Well hell, ain't we off to a great start...

[Lathum]

figured I would do a voting history since we don't have one

goldeneagle-3 spleen (134), dodgerchick (139), Daddytorgo (156),

dodgerchick- 9 saldana (143), Lathum (148), AlanT (150), goldeneagle (155), path (171), jeeber (172), ardent (173), barkeep (175), LSG (179)

I think there is some good info in there.

[Lathum]

dola- votes from yesterday

[spleen1015]

I'll keep up with the trend of being 1st to vote again.

VOTE DaddyTorgo

I don't think that all of the bad dudes would vote for DC, so one had to vote for GE. We know that DC is the Duke and I know that I am vanilla, so that leaves DT.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

What we need to do is start a "I'm bitter I got killed" thread because I certainly have some choice words sometimes when I get taken out.

That's actually a great idea I think. Sort of like a poker bad beats thing.

[Lathum]

1. Chief Rum--Banned Night 1

2. Dodgerchick- cleared as skydog (the duke)

3. spleen1015- cast first vote yesterday and today as well. Possible wolf trying to get an early vote in. I do agree with his logic that not all the bad dudes would vote for DC so assuming spleen is good DT is a good option. For now I am willing to trust but if DT comes up good at some point I'll take a harder look.

4. Barkeep49- First thing that stuck out to me was he wanted to keep Blade around on day one when blade wanted to vote himself out. IMO 90% of the time you kill a villegar on day one so why not grant Blade his wish? Blade obviously didn't have a role of importance so. IMO the better strategy would be to lynch him and not take the chance at killing a usefull villegar or forcing a villegar to out themselves day one. This threw up red flags for me and if anyone want to discuss that strategy I would be happy to. Next day he votes GE and creates a tie, then puts up a good defense as to why he did it. He then unvotes GE and votes DC. Overall strange play from him.

5. WVUFan- Just took over for ardent so voting records don't mean much. The fact ardent made sure he got a replacement make me believe he had some kind of role. Ardent missed the day one vote which is something a wolf probably wouldn't do. Voted DC once the bandwagon got going.

6. LoneStarGirl- she said something that clears her in my opinion but I'll keep it to myself. Random day one vote for Blade. A couple of red flags. She makes a comment about wanting to lynch blade. perhaps some showboating? Also she cast the last vote for DC yesterday basicly a throw away.

7. Lathum- i obviously trust myself. I can see why people may be suspicous of the way I voted for Blade night one. My reason was I thought blade was skydog trying to clear himself early. Cast the second vote on DC creating a tie with her and GE in an attempt to create conversation.

8. DaddyTorgo- Voted for alanT day one to "stir him up" kind of an odd play on day one. I am of the opinion the only info you find out day one is info that can help the wolves. again, I am willing to discuss this theory with whovever want to. One of 3 voters on GE yesterday. Post #95 says he is paying more attention to the other game. IMO it is MUCH easier to play passivly as a wolf then a villegar. Casts the second vote on CR. Makes the statement to keep Blade around as a non active villegar.
9. Blade6119/ Saldana- I am pretty sure Blade wouldn't try and get himself lynched if he was an important role. Cast the first vote on DC and went after her pretty good. To aggresive IMO to be a wolf. Pointed out Barkeep creating a ti, another un wolfish move. I trust him for now.

10. path12- Called out DT early, possibly wolf showmanship early on in post 65? claims he would have changed his day one vote. easy to give him a pass after that trainwreck. Casts 5th vote on DC after agreeing with Saldana. states he isn't paying attention as closely, easier for a wolf. Been very under the radar for Path.

11. JeeberD- Stated prior to the game he was gonna be quiet. Day one throw away vote on ardent. Same vote on Day 2, he then switches to DC, at that point it was kind of a bandwagon

12. GoldenEagle (Hell Atlantic)--Banned by SkyDog Day 2

13. Alan T--Banned Night 2

[Lathum]

Trust
Lathum, Saldana, LSG, Dodgerchick

In the middle
Spleen, Path,

Distrust
Daddy Torgo, Barkeep, WVU Fan, Jeeber

[saldana]

well lathum, that was unquestionably, the longest post in your life on this board.

your list looks similar to mine, especially the bottom row

i didnt like the vote yesterday, so i am gonna go with

vote barkeep49

[Lathum]

yep....

pretty bored...

[Lathum]

VOTE DADDY TORGO

based on what I wrote above.

[path12]

Lathum, thanks for the analysis. I want to look it over some before voting.

[DaddyTorgo]

a vote for me is a mistake. a vote for barkeep is a mistake. I'm not sure where I want to cast my vote today.

(OT: and as for me paying more attention to the other game, it's just a fact. has nothing to do with my affiliation/role/whatever.)

N.O.

[DaddyTorgo]

how is it i come home from a nice early morning of work (sarcasm) and find out that a damm hurricane has busted out against me in both games?

[Lorena]

Eenie Meenie Miny Moe

vote path12

[DaddyTorgo]

Nice analysis Lathum. Wrong about me. And I believe wrong about Barkeep too. We had similar thoughts on Blade, which was essentially forcing the wolves to night-kill him in order to save someone else who was good and active.

Honestly I think that's a very pro-villager viewpoint. And I'm not comfortable voting for him based on that. I'd much rather vote Path, or Spleen who have made a couple interesting moves, as you yourself noted.

[LoneStarGirl]

Lathum, I do not like Blade. We are not friends. Blade needs to die on night one in every WW game. That is why I voted for him.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Eenie Meenie Miny Moe...

How many b*tches from the club won't go?

[Lathum]

Unvote Daddy torgo
Vote spleen

the reason is obvious to me anyway...

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

a vote for me is a mistake. a vote for barkeep is a mistake. I'm not sure where I want to cast my vote today.

Are you vouching for Barkeep?

[WVUFAN]

Checking in. I'm catching up on the thread over the next few hours.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by path12

Are you vouching for Barkeep?

vouching in what sense? not in THAT sense. but i understand where he is coming from. i don't think his reaction to blade screams "I'M A WOLF." But I guess that's just because I'm good too, so I know where he's coming from.

[DaddyTorgo]

VOTE SPLEEN

i'm with you on that lathum, like i said. glad you came around.

[Barkeep49]

WVU nailed my thinking on Blade. I couldn't see Blade, no matter what was going on, giving up a bad guy role. This meant, for meta-game reasons which I know can be bad, that I felt he was good. I think it's FAR more suspicious to kill a known likely good rather than some other random person.

[Barkeep49]

Sorry wasn't WVU it was Daddy with the rationale with which I agree.

[Lorena]

unvote path12
vote spleen

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Unvote Daddy torgo
Vote spleen

the reason is obvious to me anyway...

Then give it because you are wasting your vote.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Then give it because you are wasting your vote.

I would rather not.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

unvote path12
vote spleen

Monkey see, monkey do.

Another short game for me. This is a fine game to enter retirement.

Sheesh!

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I would rather not.

So, you have nothing.

This is funny to me because you think you have something and there's nothing to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

well spleen...give us a reason why not to vote for you, and an alternative target

[path12]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

a vote for me is a mistake. a vote for barkeep is a mistake. I'm not sure where I want to cast my vote today.

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

vouching in what sense? not in THAT sense. but i understand where he is coming from. i don't think his reaction to blade screams "I'M A WOLF." But I guess that's just because I'm good too, so I know where he's coming from.

I meant vouching for in the sense of the bolded quote above. Because that's certainly what it looked like to me.

[DaddyTorgo]

well yes. in the sense of "i can understand his play and i think it'd be a mistake to think he is the most likely person to be a wolf."

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

well spleen...give us a reason why not to vote for you, and an alternative target

I've already said that I'm vanilla. What other reason do you need to not vote for me?

It doesn't matter. I was tired of playing after the BS in hoops' game. So, everyone vote for me and get it over with and you'll see that I am vanilla.

UNVOTE DaddyTorgo
VOTE Lathum

In the Tombstone game, if I remember correctly, Lathum provided what appeared to be helpful analysis and he was the leader of the Cowboys. After his big analysis post, I think he is playing the same game this time.

Not that it really matters.

DT, give me your reason for voting for me.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I think it's FAR more suspicious to kill a known likely good rather than some other random person.

I don't necessarily agree with this. What if the random person is a powerfull role like the seer or BG? then you are either

a. killing a powerfull role day one

b. forcing that person to out themselves day one, essentialy killing them.

I though about what blade was doing in terms of math. I wasn't so much thinking about losing a villegar as much as I was thinking about NOT losing a powerplayer.

we started with 13 players. Take Blade out of the mix because once he voted himself it was obvious he was a plain villegar.

That puts us at 12.

We have 3 powerplayers, duke, bodyguard and seer. That means if we lay off of blade and vote someone else we are leaving a 25% chance of killing a powerplayer on day one.

Personaly I would rather lose the known powerless villegar the take a 25% chance at killing a powerplayer.

[Lathum]

actualy the tombstone game I outed one of my teammates and got him killed. I'm not giving my reason because with the bodyguard gone I would rather not get our most valuable asset killed tonight.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I've already said that I'm vanilla. What other reason do you need to not vote for me?

It doesn't matter. I was tired of playing after the BS in hoops' game. So, everyone vote for me and get it over with and you'll see that I am vanilla.

UNVOTE DaddyTorgo
VOTE Lathum

In the Tombstone game, if I remember correctly, Lathum provided what appeared to be helpful analysis and he was the leader of the Cowboys. After his big analysis post, I think he is playing the same game this time.

Not that it really matters.

DT, give me your reason for voting for me.

my reasoning goes back to lathum's post. he pointed out questions (as many as there can be at this point) with both path and you. and he voted you. so rather than vote path and split it, i decided to put a vote on you and see how you reacted. i'm not wedded to the vote for you at all certainly if something better came along.

(OT: although it sounds like you could really use that "WW Venting" thread that was discussed. don't be upset, it's just a game.)