GAME OVER POST 733 - WW - The Jihad of Muad'dib

[The Jackal]

And I haven't even mentioned PF today. He voted to prevent you making it a tie, and though a late vote on a villager doesn't look great, I still didn't like the fact that you spent all day not voting, waiting to see what other people would do, and then still opened it up for a tie right at the end. I realize there were some of us in the thread to prevent the tie, but it still reeked of bad form and alterior motives.

[The Jackal]

I'm here, you want to start a run on me, go ahead, I'm vanilla, and will gladly give my life for Muad'dib.

[Autumn]

Well, I'll jump at the chance to vote Jackal, which is my best guess right now. Hopefully we'll be getting some more votes in tonight (I think we're still missing two) and some movement still. If Jackal doesn't show up at all tonight I may be inclined to switch my vote though, I hate blindsiding someone and finding out they had a role.

UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA
VOTE THE JACKAL

[Autumn]

heh nevermind, guess he's here.

[The Jackal]

And if both Autumn and Martin are vanilla villagers I'm pretty sure that confirms the reasoning I was laying out in those late posts.. I was worried people would call me out for not getting involved, as has happened in past games, but I trusted my gut about Martin not being a wolf, and didn't want to vote Autumn for the tie.

[The Jackal]

You just want to take out the only person who was doing any roleplay besides CW! Rabble rabble!

[Autumn]

It's been too long since I've read or watched it, I don't have any jargon!

[The Jackal]

I was kidding, of course.

[The Jackal]

Why me instead of Pass, Autumn? I mean, he nearly got you lynched yesterday whereas I abstained from pushing you towards it. Seems a bit off.

[Telle]

Hmmm.. looks like I'm the only one not to vote so far other than the missing Schmidty.

I think I'm going to follow Pass on voting The Jackal. The whole "let's vote for the guy who hasn't shown up yet" thing on Day 1 is just too easy to hide behind. Although Chief also did that, and he's pinged my radar a bit, but there's currently no votes on him and I'm not going to throw out a new candidate at this stage. Soo...

vote The Jackal

[The Jackal]

That's not why I voted for Schmidty, Telle. I voted for him way early in the day, before a lot of people had checked in.

[Coffee Warlord]

Would someone mind getting an accurate count? My head is splitting, waiting for the drugs to kick in before I think.

[The Jackal]

But sure, let's listen to the two people that have been on the block all day that decided to target me late.

[Autumn]

Well, it's the part of a villager on day one to lynch a villager, isn't it? That doesn't bother me. I'm just getting a vibe of usual Pass here, he tends to do things which stir the pot. And while I can't write him off being a wolf, I don't think he's the most likely candidate. He seems to be noticing the right things.

And yes, your votes were good. Safe even, I would say. I've just got a vibe off of you, and your votes are what I would expect from a wolf - meaning they're not at all bad! Added Schmidty as the 4th person day one, that's a safe move. Third vote on Pass today, that puts someone in the lead who was getting plenty of flak, a safe vote that's not going to get you any flak but helps determine the candidates.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

That's not why I voted for Schmidty, Telle. I voted for him way early in the day, before a lot of people had checked in.

Hmm.. you're right. Your vote was post 59, which was rather early on. Although you did never change it to a more viable candidate.. were you here around deadline? Anyways, I'm going to leave my vote there for now unless it looks like the tie will hold (which is doubtful with a half hour to go).

[Autumn]

I think we have:

Pass 3
Jackal 3
Autumn 2
Darth Vilus 2
RA 1
Telle 1

[Telle]

Votes as of post #215:

2 - Autumn - ntndeacon (157), Chief Rum (171)
3 - Passacagllia - PackerFanatic (161), The Jackal (166), cougarfreak (183)
1 - Raiders Army - Darth Vilus (163)
2 - Darth Vilus - Coffee Warlord (164), Danny (182)
1 - Telle - Raiders Army (170)
3 - The Jackal - Passacaglia (199), Autumn (203), Telle (210)

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Telle

Hmm.. you're right. Your vote was post 59, which was rather early on. Although you did never change it to a more viable candidate.. were you here around deadline? Anyways, I'm going to leave my vote there for now unless it looks like the tie will hold (which is doubtful with a half hour to go).

Yes I was here at the deadline. I didn't want to vote for Martin because 1) I wasn't getting any sort of wolf vibe, and 2) he had said he wasn't going to be around at the deadline and I didn't want to help a late run on someone who might have a role that couldn't reveal. I didn't switch to Autumn because it would have put things into a tie scenario, which is what I'm giving Pass heat for, but he seems to be getting a pass on from other people (including Muad'dib!). But the main thing that struck me about Pass is the wait and vote method, letting other people setup what's going to happen and throwing in something late, a move that I've made as a wolf in the past and has gotten me into trouble.

My internet seems to be screwing around sporadically, but there's not much else I can say for myself. I'm sorry if my votes have been decent (though we know nothing about Schmidty or Pass), Autumn, next time I'm vanilla I'll make sure to try and vote poorly so as to draw less attention to myself? Sigh.

[The Jackal]

I wouldn't mind voting for DV either, that being said. Was just going with my gut on Pass, mostly. Plus his shenanigans near deadline.

[Autumn]

Unfortunately, Jackal, there's no way to explain vibe. I mean a wolf almost never slips enough to make the vote obvious on day two, right? I've just got to go with my instincts, which have been quite good the last few games.

[The Jackal]

I don't like how spread out we are, bad for vote history, good for the wolves. Just hoping we've had a bad guy on the block and this is a late scramble to save themself. Though I somehow doubt both Autumn and Pass would be voting for me if they are both wolves. Still tend to think Autumn is good, but not so sure anymore..

[Passacaglia]

Oh crap, 20 minutes to deadline and we have a tie!

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Unfortunately, Jackal, there's no way to explain vibe. I mean a wolf almost never slips enough to make the vote obvious on day two, right? I've just got to go with my instincts, which have been quite good the last few games.

It's not like my Pass vote came out of nowhere though. I stated multiple times yesterday I would remember his actions.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Oh crap, 20 minutes to deadline and we have a tie!

Driven by you again! Hrm!

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

It's not like my Pass vote came out of nowhere though. I stated multiple times yesterday I would remember his actions.

I wasn't talking about your vote, just explaining mine. I know the same things can be used as proof of being a villager or of a wolf, it's a frustrating game.

[Coffee Warlord]

Something so just occured to me. Which is equally impressive, since I know and see all things at once.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Something so just occured to me. Which is equally impressive, since I know and see all things at once.

This game would be a lot easier if you would just tell us all that you know and see at once.

[PackerFanatic]

Gah...a tie?!

[PackerFanatic]

No ties!

[Telle]

Hrrmmm... the lack of movement troubles me. Especially when we have a tie.

[Autumn]

I'm assuming one of the many fine players watching the thread right now are going to break the tie.

[Autumn]

I will break it myself if need be, as I don't want to find out what the tie mechanic is. But I was hoping someone one a fringe candidate might do it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Driven by you again! Hrm!

Well, this time my vote didn't make the tie!

[Coffee Warlord]

Originally Posted by Autumn

This game would be a lot easier if you would just tell us all that you know and see at once.

Ah, but I am only the tool of fate. The pieces must still move to their own tune.

[PackerFanatic]

I don't have a good feeling about moving...but I really don't want to risk a tie

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I will break it myself if need be, as I don't want to find out what the tie mechanic is. But I was hoping someone one a fringe candidate might do it.

The problem is that nobody on a fringe candidate is here. Unless you count the two votes on Darth.

[Coffee Warlord]

I have viewed the lines of probability to possibility to certainty...and see many futures where Passa WANTS a tie for reasons unknown.

[Autumn]

I guess it's Darth's and RA's votes which are meaningless at the moment. No sign of them around.

[Telle]

Well I made the tie, so I'll guess I should be the one to unmake it..

unvote The Jackal
vote Passacaglia

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I have viewed the lines of probability to possibility to certainty...and see many futures where Passa WANTS a tie for reasons unknown.

Not really. I'd move if it wouldn't doom me.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Telle

Well I made the tie, so I'll guess I should be the one to unmake it..

unvote The Jackal
vote Passacaglia

atsa bad move

[Autumn]

Well I could switch to Pass and fix it. I guess I'd rather switch to DV than that, though I hate switching to someone who's not around. And mostly I'd like someone to switch to Jackal.

[Autumn]

Nevermind.

[Passacaglia]

I'm fine voting DV at this point, rather than dying. Autumn, if you and I switch to DV, though, that makes it 4 for me and 4 for him.

[Autumn]

Coffee and Danny, why sit on DV rather than break the tie I wonder?

[Passacaglia]

Well, might as well try something.

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE DARTH VILUS

[Telle]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

atsa bad move

Oh probably.. not like there's good odds on catching a wolf on Day 2 with little info to go on. But switching to Darth wouldn't have fixed the tie issue, and switching to somebody not really in the running still puts you in the lead.

[Autumn]

Sorry, Pass, I don't think I want to do that and find out we shot ourselves in the foot. I'd encourage again a vote for Jackal instead of Pass to those around.

[The Jackal]

Time warner is killing my internet right now.

[Coffee Warlord]

Because I want to see what tune my little puppets dance to. To see the entire song, I need to hear the individual notes.