2009 MLB Playoff Thread - Page 5

MizzouRah · 10-15-2009, 11:18 PM

Phillies.. best lineup in baseball?

RedKingGold · 10-15-2009, 11:30 PM

Everyone talks about Lidge, but Madson has had an equally worse drop off.

He's just not locating his fastball.

Dr. Sak · 10-15-2009, 11:33 PM

He's been getting bombed the past few games.

Dr. Sak · 10-15-2009, 11:38 PM

GET MADSON OUT

EagleFan · 10-15-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Everyone talks about Lidge, but Madson has had an equally worse drop off.

He's just not locating his fastball.

True, but Lidge's issues were constant all year long where Madson has been either unhittable or getting bombed. There seems to be no middle ground for him.

RedKingGold · 10-15-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

He's been getting bombed the past few games.

Truth is, our bullpen has not been as horrible as the media has made it out to be. But the loss of Chan Ho combined with the very public failures of Madson/Lidge have made it seem that way.

Sun Tzu · 10-16-2009, 12:10 AM

Dr. Sak · 10-16-2009, 12:13 AM

Just another routine Phillies win

RedKingGold · 10-16-2009, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Just another routine Phillies win

Gotta admit, the ride is fun. Just hope we don't die in the end.

Dr. Sak · 10-16-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Gotta admit, the ride is fun. Just hope we don't die in the end.

I'm going to keep an eye on the weather for Sunday. If it looks good I am driving out for Game 3.

tucker rocky · 10-16-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I'm going to keep an eye on the weather for Sunday. If it looks good I am driving out for Game 3.

Say it ain't so, bad weather in Philly, during the baseball playoffs.
Hopefully, it won't be cold and rainy, or some kind of 2 or 3 day delay.

Dr. Sak · 10-16-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tucker rocky

Say it ain't so, bad weather in Philly, during the baseball playoffs.
Hopefully, it won't be cold and rainy, or some kind of 2 or 3 day delay.

Temps in the 40s...70% chance of rain.

Bad-example · 10-16-2009, 12:27 PM

That was a fun game to watch last night. That last homer by the Phillies was awesome. I didn't get to see a replay but the ball looked like it hit some Dodger fan right in the wrist before it fell away from him.

Crack!!

Eaglesfan27 · 10-16-2009, 06:11 PM

I was pleasantly surprised by Park last night, and I'm even more surprised by Pedro today. 2 more innings!

bhlloy · 10-16-2009, 06:38 PM

I'm only following online but got to be a pretty questionable decision to pull Pedro there after only throwing 87 pitches and allowing 2 hits, no?

Big Fo · 10-16-2009, 06:38 PM

Tie game, Utley missed Howard by about two yards on that throw.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-16-2009, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm only following online but got to be a pretty questionable decision to pull Pedro there after only throwing 87 pitches and allowing 2 hits, no?

I don't think it was that bad as Dobbs could have had a big hit to push the lead and I don't think Pedro's endurance is what it used to be.

ISiddiqui · 10-16-2009, 07:00 PM

Did Happ really walk in the go ahead run?!

Big Fo · 10-16-2009, 07:02 PM

Fifth pitcher this inning for the Phillies, gotta love the playoffs.

ISiddiqui · 10-16-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Phillies.. best lineup in baseball?

Just saw this... was this is a serious question with the Yankees still playing in the major leagues?

ISiddiqui · 10-16-2009, 07:13 PM

The series is now tied at 1.

Chief Rum · 10-16-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Just saw this... was this is a serious question with the Yankees still playing in the major leagues?

The Phillies have a very good lineup with some top notch hitters in the middle. That said, I agree, the Yankees have the top lineup in baseball right now. And while the Angels and the Red Sox don't necessarily have a Howard in their lineup, their overall depth put them about the same level as the Phils, or at least last I checked. I'll admit, I haven't paid close enough attention to the Phillies to know for sure how the bottom end of their lineup has been doing.

ISiddiqui · 10-16-2009, 07:18 PM

Boston may not have Howard, but Youklis is just as good (if not better). I'd say the Phillies are slightly better on depth (for Boston, Varitek and Green were horrid... but Victor Martinez was very good - so I guess it depends who is used behind the plate).

The bottom of the Phillies lineup is Feliz (OPS+ of 80) and, believe it or not, Rollins (OPS+ of 85 with only 31 SB/8 CS).

Chief Rum · 10-16-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Boston may not have Howard, but Youklis is just as good (if not better). I'd say the Phillies are slightly better on depth (for Boston, Varitek and Green were horrid... but Victor Martinez was very good - so I guess it depends who is used behind the plate).

The bottom of the Phillies lineup is Feliz (OPS+ of 80) and, believe it or not, Rollins (OPS+ of 85 with only 31 SB/8 CS).

Hmm, well, I think the Angels have a better lineup than Boston, so maybe that's a match, although it would have to be the lineup with Napoli in there; Mathis brings it all down (although he's a fine defensive catcher).

Angels scored more runs this year than the Red Sox. Iwould have to check but I think they might have ended up second in runs scored in all of baseball.

MikeVic · 10-17-2009, 01:08 AM

lol, Chan Ho Park.

SackAttack · 10-17-2009, 01:13 AM

Such a weird NLCS so far. The Dodgers have to feel like the Phillies picked their pocket in Game 1, with Kershaw melting down and Sherrill actually getting scored on.

The Phillies have to feel like they gave one away after the Game 2 outcome.

So is this "Yeah, this is about right, even if the teams who won each game aren't the ones who should have - this series is going 7" or is this a case where both teams feel like they should be up 2-0 on their way to a 4-game or 5-game win?

EagleFan · 10-17-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

lol, Chan Ho Park.

???

First hit goes just off the end of Feliz's glove. If it's 3 inches more towards the line it's a ground out. Next batter comes up with the perfect bunt just past Park and Howard, 6 inches either way or any slower and it's a sacrifice bunt. Next batter hits what should be a routine double play ball and Utley goes all Steve Sax for the second game in a row.

I will say that Park is one of the best relievers on the team right now. Once he settled into the role he has been clutch, look at game one for a perfect example of that. If Madson could forget about the closer experiment and get back to his setup mentality I love the Phillies chances once they hit the 7th inning and have a healthy Park and Eyre.

RedKingGold · 10-17-2009, 10:12 AM

Phillies got home-field advantage back, that's all that matters.

Take care of business at home and we won't be back in LA.

gstelmack · 10-17-2009, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

First hit goes just off the end of Feliz's glove. If it's 3 inches more towards the line it's a ground out. Next batter comes up with the perfect bunt just past Park and Howard, 6 inches either way or any slower and it's a sacrifice bunt. Next batter hits what should be a routine double play ball and Utley goes all Steve Sax for the second game in a row.

He did walk in the second run though.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-17-2009, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

He did walk in the second run though.

No, he didn't. Happ did that.

gstelmack · 10-17-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

No, he didn't. Happ did that.

Ah, I missed that, I think all I saw was his linescore and assumed he had done it, missed that he was "responsible" for the baserunner. I should pay more attention...

Dr. Sak · 10-17-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Phillies got home-field advantage back, that's all that matters.

Take care of business at home and we won't be back in LA.

All I wanted was a split. With Lee going tomorrow I am confident.

MikeVic · 10-17-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

???

First hit goes just off the end of Feliz's glove. If it's 3 inches more towards the line it's a ground out. Next batter comes up with the perfect bunt just past Park and Howard, 6 inches either way or any slower and it's a sacrifice bunt. Next batter hits what should be a routine double play ball and Utley goes all Steve Sax for the second game in a row.

I will say that Park is one of the best relievers on the team right now. Once he settled into the role he has been clutch, look at game one for a perfect example of that. If Madson could forget about the closer experiment and get back to his setup mentality I love the Phillies chances once they hit the 7th inning and have a healthy Park and Eyre.

I didn't watch the game, just saw the box score. I can't get Chan Ho Park as a joke out of my head still.

Warhammer · 10-18-2009, 12:01 AM

FIGGY!

EagleFan · 10-18-2009, 01:09 AM

That was a rather stupid play. There is no chance that they get two on that play and the runner at second meant nothing. Get the sure out for out number two and focus on the next batter.

ISiddiqui · 10-18-2009, 01:53 AM

Is A-Rod a "true" Yankee now?

Chief Rum · 10-18-2009, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

That was a rather stupid play. There is no chance that they get two on that play and the runner at second meant nothing. Get the sure out for out number two and focus on the next batter.

Yes. This seemed to be obvious to everyone except Izturis.

BTW, Earth to Fuentes. If you get two strikes on fastballs to ARod, do not flippin' throw another fastball--down the middle, no less--as the third pitch, brainiac.

Dr. Sak · 10-18-2009, 08:32 PM

Phils bats are hot early!

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 08:34 PM

Not a bad start so far.

EagleFan · 10-18-2009, 08:42 PM

Great start!!! Now if Lee can throw a game like he did against Colorado things will be fine.

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 08:45 PM

Based on the umpire's early strike zone (a lot of wiggle up and down), I'm thinking Lee will be fine in this start.

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 09:08 PM

Can I just say that I love that the Phillies have "ball girls" whereas it seems like the rest of MLB has 12-year old boys manning the foul lines?

Karlifornia · 10-18-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedKingGold

Can I just say that I love that the Phillies have "ball girls" whereas it seems like the rest of MLB has 12-year old boys manning the foul lines?

The Giants have really old guys they call "balldudes". It can be funny to watch them fall down, but I'd rather have some girl in tight shorts.

Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2009, 10:02 PM

This is a fun game to watch.

Dr. Sak · 10-18-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27

This is a fun game to watch.

Yes much more relaxing

It was nice to see Feliz get a hit.

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

Yes much more relaxing

It was nice to see Feliz get a hit.

Then why am I still holding my breath?

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 10:32 PM

What a great pitchout by Lee on Manny.

Thanks again, Cleveland!

Eaglesfan27 · 10-18-2009, 10:33 PM

Cliff Lee makes it very easy to relax

RedKingGold · 10-18-2009, 11:08 PM

Phils sending a message tonight. I love it.

k0ruptr · 10-18-2009, 11:14 PM

Flyin' Hawaiian Piling it on! 3run jack!

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ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Boston may not have Howard, but Youklis is just as good (if not better). I'd say the Phillies are slightly better on depth (for Boston, Varitek and Green were horrid... but Victor Martinez was very good - so I guess it depends who is used behind the plate). The bottom of the Phillies lineup is Feliz (OPS+ of 80) and, believe it or not, Rollins (OPS+ of 85 with only 31 SB/8 CS). __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

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MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Phillies.. best lineup in baseball?

10-15-2009, 11:30 PM	#202
RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Everyone talks about Lidge, but Madson has had an equally worse drop off. He's just not locating his fastball.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	He's been getting bombed the past few games.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	GET MADSON OUT

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Just another routine Phillies win

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Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	That was a fun game to watch last night. That last homer by the Phillies was awesome. I didn't get to see a replay but the ball looked like it hit some Dodger fan right in the wrist before it fell away from him. Crack!!

10-16-2009, 06:38 PM	#215
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm only following online but got to be a pretty questionable decision to pull Pedro there after only throwing 87 pitches and allowing 2 hits, no?

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Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Tie game, Utley missed Howard by about two yards on that throw.

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Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Fifth pitcher this inning for the Phillies, gotta love the playoffs.

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MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	lol, Chan Ho Park.

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SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Such a weird NLCS so far. The Dodgers have to feel like the Phillies picked their pocket in Game 1, with Kershaw melting down and Sherrill actually getting scored on. The Phillies have to feel like they gave one away after the Game 2 outcome. So is this "Yeah, this is about right, even if the teams who won each game aren't the ones who should have - this series is going 7" or is this a case where both teams feel like they should be up 2-0 on their way to a 4-game or 5-game win?

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Phillies got home-field advantage back, that's all that matters. Take care of business at home and we won't be back in LA. Last edited by RedKingGold : 10-17-2009 at 10:13 AM.

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EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	That was a rather stupid play. There is no chance that they get two on that play and the runner at second meant nothing. Get the sure out for out number two and focus on the next batter.

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Not a bad start so far.

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EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Great start!!! Now if Lee can throw a game like he did against Colorado things will be fine.

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Based on the umpire's early strike zone (a lot of wiggle up and down), I'm thinking Lee will be fine in this start.

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	Can I just say that I love that the Phillies have "ball girls" whereas it seems like the rest of MLB has 12-year old boys manning the foul lines?

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RedKingGold College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002	What a great pitchout by Lee on Manny. Thanks again, Cleveland! Last edited by RedKingGold : 10-18-2009 at 10:33 PM.

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