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Old 12-08-2009, 09:19 PM   #201
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As night turns into day yet again you begin to gather. You seemed to sleep better last night, probably because of exhaustion.

You count and see that all 11 of you remain and feel like you hve just turned the corner and things could be getting better. Of course then you remember that there were 12 of you left.

Who is missing?

hoopsguy, where is he?

Then you see if, the gruesome remains of hoopsguy near a bookcase with a copy of Twighlight laying nearby. He has become a midnight snack for the horror which remains. You feel that time is running out, but how much time do you have?

hoopsguy was a vanilla villager.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #202
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lame on the tie.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #203
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Guess all that suspicion of hoopsguy was unfounded.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:29 PM   #204
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Sorry I missed the vote guys. Tuesday is the busiest day of the week for me.

Oh, and this:

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Old 12-08-2009, 09:31 PM   #205
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:34 PM   #206
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That's probably because he knows I have a role. I am the seer. I scanned Schmidty tonight and he is a wolf.

Night 1 I scanned Lathum which is why I tried that maneuvering to Telle there at the end after Lathum switched as I knew I wasn't going to be lynched at that point.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:34 PM   #207
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OK, that 8:59-9:00 Lathum and Danny switching was too damn perfect for me to stomach. Almost like they had contact outside the thread and planned that....
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:36 PM   #208
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That's probably because he knows I have a role.

Assuming he is a zombie how would he know you are roled?
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:37 PM   #209
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oooo a fake reveal... who is lying wooooooo
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:39 PM   #210
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oooo a fake reveal... who is lying wooooooo

Schmidty never revealed as seer. Plus he didn't vote. I'd have a hard time believing he got a night action in but didn't get a vote in since they are both 9P deadlines.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:39 PM   #211
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Assuming he is a zombie how would he know you are roled?

Not sure, I didn't get any indication he knew about the scan. But what I did at deadline does stand out.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:39 PM   #212
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huh, i really didnt peg danny as the seer
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:42 PM   #213
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admittedly ive never played a game where he was the seer though
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:45 PM   #214
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I got mad seer skills
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:01 PM   #215
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I'm going to get back to work, but obviously

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Old 12-08-2009, 10:04 PM   #216
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I'm going to wait to hear from Schmidty before I make a rash early vote.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:18 PM   #217
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what did it tell us? nobody was lynched

you don't think the late movement when they thought I wasn't going to be back in time doesn't give us info?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:20 PM   #218
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Why would Schmidty come out like that unless he knew he was scanned, which is a very rare mechanic.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:25 PM   #219
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Night 1 I scanned Lathum which is why I tried that maneuvering to Telle there at the end after Lathum switched as I knew I wasn't going to be lynched at that point.

You also would know as a wolf that I am a villager and can use it as leverage when I come up as such. By unvoting me and moving on to Telle it still leaves me at 4 votes and I am a goner, but you can say " well I tried to save him" you didn't realize I would be able to tie it up.

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OK, that 8:59-9:00 Lathum and Danny switching was too damn perfect for me to stomach. Almost like they had contact outside the thread and planned that....

IMO you are a wolf and are trying to link Danny and me since you know Danny is going to come out wolf sooner or later.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:31 PM   #220
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I'm not a wolf, and I'm not the Seer. I hope that the real Seer won't speak up, because I don't want him (or her) get picked off.

Danny is obviously a wolf, but I don't understand why he would tag me when I have no role. Not only that, he's pretty much throwing in the towel, and trying draw out the Seer.

I'm vanilla. If I die, it's no big deal. I'm not even mad because I'm pretty shocked.
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:33 PM   #221
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I'm not very convinced at all by that reveal. Not saying I'm sure Danny is a wolf but that in no way gives him a pass. The only positive from this is that hoops is dead instead of converted.
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Old 12-08-2009, 11:43 PM   #222
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Old 12-09-2009, 07:22 AM   #223
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:42 AM   #224
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Schmidty 1 - Danny (214)
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Old 12-09-2009, 08:44 AM   #225
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Probably another crazy day but I am working at home today (as I now have "lake front" property after the storm went through last night) so I should be able to dual laptop it and have my home laptop ready to go for posting.
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:20 AM   #226
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I'm always really cautious anytime I may be killing the seer, because that's a mistake you can't make, but I find it strange that Danny was nearly lynched twice and said nothing, and then suddenly reveals out of nowhere. I'm having a hard time understanding how this is plausible behavior.
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Old 12-09-2009, 11:41 AM   #227
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I'm always really cautious anytime I may be killing the seer, because that's a mistake you can't make, but I find it strange that Danny was nearly lynched twice and said nothing, and then suddenly reveals out of nowhere. I'm having a hard time understanding how this is plausible behavior.

If we are getting a 1-1 trade then tha'ts ok, pretty standard.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:20 PM   #228
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you don't think the late movement when they thought I wasn't going to be back in time doesn't give us info?

The late movement was you switching to Telle, followed by Danny switching to Telle followed by you switching to Danny to force a no lynch. Unless you didn't think you would be back in time and used that as a basis to switch your own vote then this post is complete BS.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:33 PM   #229
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:57 PM   #230
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I'm always really cautious anytime I may be killing the seer, because that's a mistake you can't make, but I find it strange that Danny was nearly lynched twice and said nothing, and then suddenly reveals out of nowhere. I'm having a hard time understanding how this is plausible behavior.

You weren't around either day, but I was not nearly lynched at all. I was in no danger on day 1 or 2 within an hour or two of deadline.
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Old 12-09-2009, 12:59 PM   #231
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I'm always really cautious anytime I may be killing the seer, because that's a mistake you can't make, but I find it strange that Danny was nearly lynched twice and said nothing, and then suddenly reveals out of nowhere. I'm having a hard time understanding how this is plausible behavior.

And I revealed out of nowhere because I scanned a wolf. Schmidty's approach to this looks to be working well.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:08 PM   #232
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You weren't around either day, but I was not nearly lynched at all. I was in no danger on day 1 or 2 within an hour or two of deadline.

Yesterday you were on top or near the top of the voting all day.

Also, if you are the seer, who else have you scanned. Might as well go open kimono now.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:11 PM   #233
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Yesterday you were on top or near the top of the voting all day.

Also, if you are the seer, who else have you scanned. Might as well go open kimono now.

He already claimed to scan Lathum on N1.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:15 PM   #234
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Yesterday you were on top or near the top of the voting all day.

Also, if you are the seer, who else have you scanned. Might as well go open kimono now.

Look at how things developed. I was not in danger as deadline approached. I actually thought I played that quite well to not have to reveal.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:19 PM   #235
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He already claimed to scan Lathum on N1.

Sorry, missed that before.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:21 PM   #236
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I think the safer bet is to lynch Schmidty and see if Danny is telling the truth, than to potentially lynch the seer. If Schmidty turns up villager then we simply lynch Danny the next day.

vote Schmidty
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:33 PM   #237
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Vote Schmidty

I'm on the fence still at this point, but Telle's plan has me leaning this way atm.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:54 PM   #238
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The late movement was you switching to Telle, followed by Danny switching to Telle followed by you switching to Danny to force a no lynch. Unless you didn't think you would be back in time and used that as a basis to switch your own vote then this post is complete BS.

I stated earlier that I didn't think I would be back. I would never lie about something like that. Never have never would.

I walked in the door literally three minutes prior to deadline. Danny switched and it gave me the chance to save myself so I took it.

Your vote on the other hand looks pretty poor, even worse if Danny is a wolf. Your logic was you trust Hoops the least, so you chose to vote me over Danny, in essence, saving Danny. We now know Hoops is a villager and the whole strange Danny/ Schmidty situation.

As far as that goes it seems an awfully strange coincidence Schmidty would vote so soon and Danny, claiming seer happened to scan him. I think Danny got spooked.

If Danny comes back wolf then you are the next logical choice, if Danny is the seer then we know I am cleared and Schmidty is indeed a wolf.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:56 PM   #239
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And I revealed out of nowhere because I scanned a wolf. Schmidty's approach to this looks to be working well.

How would Schmidty know he was scanned?

Like I said, that is a mechanic you never really see in a game, and EF said this is a pretty vanilla game.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:57 PM   #240
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Voting Schmidty is a safer course of action, but I just don't buy Danny's story right now. Also, Schmidty jumped right out and voted for Danny, which leads me to believe he had some info. Hate to save Danny because we think he's a seer just to vote for Schmidty who ends up having a role.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:58 PM   #241
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Dola- Danny, you are a smarter player then that.

Sorry, but you aren't gonna blow your load that quick with that info. You are to good a player to do that, you would sit on that info and see who votes with Schmidty, what they say, etc...
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:02 PM   #242
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dola- The other thing I can see is Schmidty and Telle being wolves and Schmidty trying to get an early run on Danny since Telle had some heat on her.
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:13 PM   #243
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And I revealed out of nowhere because I scanned a wolf. Schmidty's approach to this looks to be working well.

My "approach" is simply telling the truth. There's nothing else I can do in this situation.
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:16 PM   #244
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:25 PM   #245
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So lets assume Danny is lying.

If the real seer comes out, assuming their first 2 scans are still alive that gives us three cleared and probably clears Schmidty, giving us 4 cleared.

Anyone think that makes sense?
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:25 PM   #246
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I don't have a good feeling about this, but for right now:

Vote Schmidty

Schmidty came out from the start with a vote for Danny, but he's given no explanation why. As such, one possible explanation is that he may have become aware that he was scanned and had to defend himself.

Danny is very sketchy and my gut tells me he is lying, but right now, the difference maker is that Danny is either a wolf or the seer, while Schmidty so far appears to be either a wolf or a vanilla villager. So if I'm wrong on this vote, at least I'm not potentially killing the seer.
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:38 PM   #247
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this is definitely a tough one. i didnt like the late movement by danny or lathum so i am inclined to vote for danny today. I dont want to accidentally want to kill the seer though. And schmidty did say he was a vanilla villlager which gives us a little cushion if we go with danny and danny is lying.

worst case scenario if we kill danny is that we kill the seer and find a wolf in schmidty, best case scenario is we kill a wolf.

worst case scenario if we kill scmidty is we kill a vanilla villager and find a wolf in danny, best case is we kill a wolf

So because of this i am goingto go ahead and

VOTE SCHMIDTY

I'll be going to work now so i wont be able to change my vote no matter what happens. Later
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:47 PM   #248
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If Schmidty is a wolf why wouldn't he at least counter Danny and claim seer?

Makes no sense not to.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:24 PM   #249
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:28 PM   #250
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im curious about the smity voters.... do you believe there is a role where he would know he was scanned?
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