Werewolf Small game XII- The game thread. GAME OVER VILLAGERS WIN! - Page 5

ntndeacon · 05-07-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the wolves were KWhit and either ntndeacon or Alan T. I think as a villager you have to use your vote, rather than worry about how it makes you look after the fact. Both of them seem to have been worried about how it would look.

I don't see how what Idid in my day one voting leads you to the assumption that iwas worried how it looks. More often than not, I eskew voting for the favorites on day 1 as I assume we have a villager on villager thing.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Based on what? It would be nice if people in this game started actually giving reasons. Looking at you and hoops right now.

Why give you reasons? You chose to not look at my reasons yesterday. You going to start today?

st.cronin · 05-07-2007, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

Why give you reasons? You chose to not look at my reasons yesterday. You going to start today?

It depends on the reasons you give. If they merit consideration, I will consider them.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It depends on the reasons you give. If they merit consideration, I will consider them.

I am a little puzzled to what evidence I could possibly give you to make you convinced that you and Hoops are our two wolves. I'll have to think about this for a bit and get back to you on that!

All seriousness, all I have is hunches. Im just as likely to lead everyone down the wrong road as I am to get lucky and be correct. I have found alot of how Hoops played yesterday and to some extent today inconsistant with what I feel he normally does. I am baffled about Cronin's play and selectively choosing arguements today. Then I see them trying to distance from each other for damage control.

Maybe I'm just paranoid.

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean you aren't out to get me though.

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 08:33 PM

I'm glad that Peregrine went to bed for the evening. At least there was one person who made it through the day without idle speculation about me as a wolf.

Seriously, a lot of you are being sold a bill of goods on me as a wolf. And I don't understand why.

Alan, what caused the change of heart on KWhit today? And why do you still have me on the hot list for "defending" him when you are now casting yourself in the same light today?

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 08:34 PM

OOG: Alan, it is nice that you have shed your PMS persona from the last couple of games, but you are weirding me out with the constant smileys

st.cronin · 05-07-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I am a little puzzled to what evidence I could possibly give you to make you convinced that you and Hoops are our two wolves. I'll have to think about this for a bit and get back to you on that!

All seriousness, all I have is hunches. Im just as likely to lead everyone down the wrong road as I am to get lucky and be correct. I have found alot of how Hoops played yesterday and to some extent today inconsistant with what I feel he normally does. I am baffled about Cronin's play and selectively choosing arguements today. Then I see them trying to distance from each other for damage control.

Maybe I'm just paranoid.

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean you aren't out to get me though.

If you can point to one game where you were not baffled by my play, I'd be pretty surprised. In this game I voted on day 1 for Barkeep, because he voted for me for an innocuous comment. Today I've voted for KWhit, YOUR candidate from yesterday. I'm not sure what baffles you, there, any more than anything else that anybody has said or done.

Hoopsguy seems fine to me, I've seen nothing to get alarmed about. I disagree with some of his points, but he doesn't strike me as particularly sinister.

I would rather not get lynched, but I will not be around at deadline. Not that I would have anything to reveal, or a case to make.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm glad that Peregrine went to bed for the evening. At least there was one person who made it through the day without idle speculation about me as a wolf.

Seriously, a lot of you are being sold a bill of goods on me as a wolf. And I don't understand why.

Alan, what caused the change of heart on KWhit today? And why do you still have me on the hot list for "defending" him when you are now casting yourself in the same light today?

I am not giving reasons for why I think he is innocent like you did yesterday. I'm not trying to mount his defense. I am clearly saying i have no clue if he is good or bad. And Im not selling any bill of goods to anyone. Check my last post where I very clearly state its idle speculation. Everyone should decide their vote on their own. I havent even voted yet. Im still not sure where I am going with my vote.

Maybe I'll go vote for ntndeacon instead.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OOG: Alan, it is nice that you have shed your PMS persona from the last couple of games, but you are weirding me out with the constant smileys

Im a happy guy! I smile because I am happy!

Also tonight is like my favorite tv night of the week. House -> Heroes on tv. Only Tuesday comes close with House -> Law and Order

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 08:38 PM

What has not been good TV so far tonight:

Pistons 37, Bulls 18. Ugh.

ntndeacon · 05-07-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

What has not been good TV so far tonight:

Pistons 37, Bulls 18. Ugh.

how could that be good tv any night. NBA ugh!

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 08:44 PM

Lathum is tonight's deadline 10:30 again like last night?

ntndeacon · 05-07-2007, 08:45 PM

All right. This is more a vote for hoops' innocene than any other reason. I think he is more likely a villager than Kwhit. So...
Vote KWhit

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

how could that be good tv any night. NBA ugh!

Time to argue with another person at the hotel ... you have seen my name, right? Although college is my preference, it is like choosing between hot blondes and redheads.

ntndeacon · 05-07-2007, 08:50 PM

Oh college basketball rocks. It is just the pro game I dont like

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 09:00 PM

OK, I'm probably out until deadline. Hope to come back to a good lynch, wherever people decide to take it. Lots of votes still outstanding.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:05 PM

and i'm around

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:09 PM

what the hell is going on!

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:27 PM

hi kwit...what are your thoughts? i'm trying to decide furiously here...and I know you+me+alan are outstanding. And that's a sizeable block. So i'm curious to discuss with you guys

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 09:29 PM

I really have no idea why people are voting for me.

Vote St.cronin.

His logic about coming after me makes no sense.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 09:40 PM

3 kwhit, 2 hoops, 2 st.cronin right now? Or am I wrong?

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:40 PM

VOTE ST. CRONIN

Alan? The ball is in your court yet again.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:45 PM

hmmm...alan was just here and then left without voting.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hmmm...alan was just here and then left without voting.

Just because Im not constantly hitting F5 means I left. I asked a question and no one answered, so Im looking back and counting it up

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 09:51 PM

So its 3 - Kwhit , 3 St.cronin, 2 Hoopsguy with Kwhit having the longest standing vote thus tie breaker kills him right now. So Kwhit, since you are here, if I wanted to kill hoops would you switch your vote to him?

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 09:53 PM

Lets see how this plays out. Since Kwhit is still here, I'll toss it back in his court.

Vote Hoopsguy

So if i counted right its 3 hoops, 3 st.cronin and 3 kwhit.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 09:57 PM

okie doke alan. I wasn't trying to rip on you or anything or suggest anything. Just wondering where you went off to.

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 10:05 PM

And back - thought I was going to miss deadline by a half hour instead of being back a half hour early.

DaddyTorgo, why do you know that you + Alan + KWhit equals a good block? I'm baffled by this - there seems to be an awful lot of knowledge being passed around on Day 2 with just one seer in the game. And I don't think you could have a double trust as the seer. So - what gives?

KWhit and Alan - do you guys have any reason to trust DaddyT back? If I wasn't going after the Day 1 voting pattern theory I think he would have gotten my vote today.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:06 PM

I don't KNOW that they equal a good block. I meant a "good-sized" block.

and you'll note that my vote didn't end up on you hoops.

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Alan, you are not controlling the vote with a vote on me. KWhit switches off of Cronin, I follow suit, KWhit still has the longest held vote. So he can't save himself unless other people are moving votes.

I'm not looking to kill KWhit tonight - I've got my vote where I think it will net a wolf. But if you want me dead you are going to have to convince someone besides KWhit to switch.

I wouldn't spell this out if I was a wolf - I would just switch my vote at the last second. Seriously, stop being dumb about this and re-evaluate your assumptions; they are flawed.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:11 PM

although I thank you and path for the respect you show my potential wolfishness hoops

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Alan, you are not controlling the vote with a vote on me. KWhit switches off of Cronin, I follow suit, KWhit still has the longest held vote. So he can't save himself unless other people are moving votes.

I'm not looking to kill KWhit tonight - I've got my vote where I think it will net a wolf. But if you want me dead you are going to have to convince someone besides KWhit to switch.

I wouldn't spell this out if I was a wolf - I would just switch my vote at the last second. Seriously, stop being dumb about this and re-evaluate your assumptions; they are flawed.

Doesnt matter anyways, kwhit left without doing anything.

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I don't KNOW that they equal a good block. I meant a "good-sized" block.

and you'll note that my vote didn't end up on you hoops.

Nope, it did not. But you keep making comments that I don't understand. I called one out earlier and I'm doing the same here.

But why would you have expected to have a voting block with Alan and KWhit - did I miss something contextually in your post while I was downstairs watching TV? Guys in the room at the time who had not voted? I don't want it to be suggested I'm making up outs for you here

just trying to figure out your play.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:12 PM

I'm back now.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:13 PM

yes. You did miss something. alan+kwit and I had not voted, and I noticed kwit was in the room. Just trying to get some discussion, as with 3 votes (whether they were good or bad) we could have locked something down or swayed something

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

But why would you have expected to have a voting block with Alan and KWhit

I'm assuming it's a PM thing. But I have no inside knowledge one way or the other on his play.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

yes. You did miss something. alan+kwit and I had not voted, and I noticed kwit was in the room. Just trying to get some discussion, as with 3 votes (whether they were good or bad) we could have locked something down or swayed something

Or maybe I was wrong.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:16 PM

lol. sorry...guess i'm falling into not spelling things out enough. I'll try to be more clear.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Alan, you are not controlling the vote with a vote on me. KWhit switches off of Cronin, I follow suit, KWhit still has the longest held vote. So he can't save himself unless other people are moving votes.

I'm not looking to kill KWhit tonight - I've got my vote where I think it will net a wolf. But if you want me dead you are going to have to convince someone besides KWhit to switch.

I wouldn't spell this out if I was a wolf - I would just switch my vote at the last second. Seriously, stop being dumb about this and re-evaluate your assumptions; they are flawed.

That's right. Unless someone moves their vote to st.cronin, I die tonight. Any takers?

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:17 PM

DT, you around?

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:18 PM

yes i'm here.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:20 PM

Alan,

Any chance of you moving your vote to st.cronin?

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:20 PM

Alan needs to switch to st.cronin or DT (and me) needs to switch to hoopsguy or I'm getting lynched tonight.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:20 PM

And I don't really want to get lynched.

hoopsguy · 05-07-2007, 10:22 PM

3 - KWhit - stcronin (117), Peregrine (128), NTN (213)
3 - hoopsguy - path12 (175), SnDvls (186), Alan T (226)
3 - St.Cronin - hoopsguy (191), KWhit (220), DaddyT (222)

Deadline coming. Based on the people who are around last night Alan is the person who could potentially save KWhit. I know I technically could as well but I'm not going to vote for a "think he is villager" against myself who I 100% know to be villager.

Alan T · 05-07-2007, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

And I don't really want to get lynched.

DT seemed to suggest you and he made a good voting block. Maybe he still believes that enough to change his vote with you. Unless he was just full of hot air

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:23 PM

I don't have any real reason to think hoops is a wolf, but I have no real trust in him either.

Are you open to moving your vote to hoops, DT?

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:24 PM

over you kwit? I just don't know. I don't have any particular massive wolfish-vibe off either of the two of you.

DaddyTorgo · 05-07-2007, 10:25 PM

alan, stop misinterperting what I said...i was just saying that kwit+you+me were a large voting block, not that any of us were communicating or anything.

KWhit · 05-07-2007, 10:25 PM

Ugh. Looks like I might be toast.

05-07-2007, 08:33 PM	#205
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm glad that Peregrine went to bed for the evening. At least there was one person who made it through the day without idle speculation about me as a wolf. Seriously, a lot of you are being sold a bill of goods on me as a wolf. And I don't understand why. Alan, what caused the change of heart on KWhit today? And why do you still have me on the hot list for "defending" him when you are now casting yourself in the same light today?

05-07-2007, 08:34 PM	#206
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OOG: Alan, it is nice that you have shed your PMS persona from the last couple of games, but you are weirding me out with the constant smileys

05-07-2007, 08:38 PM	#210
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	What has not been good TV so far tonight: Pistons 37, Bulls 18. Ugh.

05-07-2007, 08:44 PM	#212
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Lathum is tonight's deadline 10:30 again like last night?

05-07-2007, 08:45 PM	#213
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	All right. This is more a vote for hoops' innocene than any other reason. I think he is more likely a villager than Kwhit. So... Vote KWhit

05-07-2007, 08:50 PM	#215
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Oh college basketball rocks. It is just the pro game I dont like

05-07-2007, 09:00 PM	#216
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, I'm probably out until deadline. Hope to come back to a good lynch, wherever people decide to take it. Lots of votes still outstanding.

05-07-2007, 09:05 PM	#217
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	and i'm around

05-07-2007, 09:09 PM	#218
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	what the hell is going on!

05-07-2007, 09:27 PM	#219
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hi kwit...what are your thoughts? i'm trying to decide furiously here...and I know you+me+alan are outstanding. And that's a sizeable block. So i'm curious to discuss with you guys

05-07-2007, 09:29 PM	#220
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I really have no idea why people are voting for me. Vote St.cronin. His logic about coming after me makes no sense.

05-07-2007, 09:40 PM	#221
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	3 kwhit, 2 hoops, 2 st.cronin right now? Or am I wrong?

05-07-2007, 09:40 PM	#222
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	VOTE ST. CRONIN Alan? The ball is in your court yet again.

05-07-2007, 09:45 PM	#223
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	hmmm...alan was just here and then left without voting.

05-07-2007, 09:51 PM	#225
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	So its 3 - Kwhit , 3 St.cronin, 2 Hoopsguy with Kwhit having the longest standing vote thus tie breaker kills him right now. So Kwhit, since you are here, if I wanted to kill hoops would you switch your vote to him?

05-07-2007, 09:53 PM	#226
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Lets see how this plays out. Since Kwhit is still here, I'll toss it back in his court. Vote Hoopsguy So if i counted right its 3 hoops, 3 st.cronin and 3 kwhit.

05-07-2007, 09:57 PM	#227
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	okie doke alan. I wasn't trying to rip on you or anything or suggest anything. Just wondering where you went off to.

05-07-2007, 10:05 PM	#228
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	And back - thought I was going to miss deadline by a half hour instead of being back a half hour early. DaddyTorgo, why do you know that you + Alan + KWhit equals a good block? I'm baffled by this - there seems to be an awful lot of knowledge being passed around on Day 2 with just one seer in the game. And I don't think you could have a double trust as the seer. So - what gives? KWhit and Alan - do you guys have any reason to trust DaddyT back? If I wasn't going after the Day 1 voting pattern theory I think he would have gotten my vote today.

05-07-2007, 10:06 PM	#229
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I don't KNOW that they equal a good block. I meant a "good-sized" block. and you'll note that my vote didn't end up on you hoops.

05-07-2007, 10:09 PM	#230
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Alan, you are not controlling the vote with a vote on me. KWhit switches off of Cronin, I follow suit, KWhit still has the longest held vote. So he can't save himself unless other people are moving votes. I'm not looking to kill KWhit tonight - I've got my vote where I think it will net a wolf. But if you want me dead you are going to have to convince someone besides KWhit to switch. I wouldn't spell this out if I was a wolf - I would just switch my vote at the last second. Seriously, stop being dumb about this and re-evaluate your assumptions; they are flawed.

05-07-2007, 10:11 PM	#231
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	although I thank you and path for the respect you show my potential wolfishness hoops

05-07-2007, 10:12 PM	#234
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm back now.

05-07-2007, 10:13 PM	#235
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yes. You did miss something. alan+kwit and I had not voted, and I noticed kwit was in the room. Just trying to get some discussion, as with 3 votes (whether they were good or bad) we could have locked something down or swayed something

05-07-2007, 10:16 PM	#238
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	lol. sorry...guess i'm falling into not spelling things out enough. I'll try to be more clear.

05-07-2007, 10:17 PM	#240
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	DT, you around?

05-07-2007, 10:18 PM	#241
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	yes i'm here.

05-07-2007, 10:20 PM	#242
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Alan, Any chance of you moving your vote to st.cronin?

05-07-2007, 10:20 PM	#243
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Alan needs to switch to st.cronin or DT (and me) needs to switch to hoopsguy or I'm getting lynched tonight.

05-07-2007, 10:20 PM	#244
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	And I don't really want to get lynched.

05-07-2007, 10:22 PM	#245
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	3 - KWhit - stcronin (117), Peregrine (128), NTN (213) 3 - hoopsguy - path12 (175), SnDvls (186), Alan T (226) 3 - St.Cronin - hoopsguy (191), KWhit (220), DaddyT (222) Deadline coming. Based on the people who are around last night Alan is the person who could potentially save KWhit. I know I technically could as well but I'm not going to vote for a "think he is villager" against myself who I 100% know to be villager.