NFL Week 4 Thoughts - Page 5

Sharpieman · 10-03-2004, 09:16 PM

My Niners are getting spanked right now.

GrantDawg · 10-03-2004, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharpieman

My Niners are getting spanked right now.

Water is wet.

cthomer5000 · 10-03-2004, 10:39 PM

Excellent. My sizable parlay on the Rams and the Under payed off.

Special thanks to Dennis Erickson. I couldn't have done it without you.

ISiddiqui · 10-03-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

So again

1. Concussion
2. Comes back in for one play (35 yard TD pass)
3. Back on the sideling (Pederson in the game).

Do I need to give another reason why I love Farve? Only he could pull something like that

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Got to see IND/JAX, ATL/CAR today (oh and some of the STL/SF, but well, you know). Jacksonville, even though they lost looked VERY solid. That defense looks very good and Leftwich had a great game. Taylor? Not so much.

And for all those whining about Duckett, did you see that last drive?

That's what Duckett can bring. He gets better as he gets more and more carries. It was great to see him running over people. Maybe that can drive his stock up so someone like Miami deals their 1st round pick this year or something for him (they are that dumb... you never know)

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cthomer5000 · 10-03-2004, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Do I need to give another reason why I love Farve? Only he could pull something like that

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The man's legend only grows with each game he plays. Today was just completely unreal.

One last recap:

suffers a concussion
misses two plays
goes back onto the field without doctor's approval
throws a touchdown pass on the first play back (on 4th and 5!)
is held out of the rest of the game

You can't make this stuff up!

edit: thanks for the reminder there Isiddiqui

ISiddiqui · 10-03-2004, 11:14 PM

Oh, and in addition to that... the TD pass... it was on 4th and 5

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The man is going to be remembered in NFL lore for years and years. You'll have people telling their favorite Farve story for as long as we can remember.

Galaril · 10-03-2004, 11:35 PM

And what happened to the Titans.They have just fallen apart at the seams. They didn't get hit by the injury bug but a full scale plague down there.Maybe its time to trade McNair or even Mason since next years is itcontract wise for both and resigning them is very slim.I hate to sell the farm so soon but 27 seasons as a OIler/Titans fan tells me they are finished for this year as far a playoff run is concerned.I would say they should start looking at retooling.But boy what a run Fisher had with them.They were the winningest team in the last decade I do believe.I guess the fall can be attributed to the NFL as it is and free agency.

cthomer5000 · 10-03-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Oh, and in addition to that... the TD pass... it was on 4th and 5

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The man is going to be remembered in NFL lore for years and years. You'll have people telling their favorite Farve story for as long as we can remember.

Yeah, I remembered the 4th and 5 thing right after I posted. Too good.

I find it impossible not to like the guy. Anyone who seems to enjoy and respect the game as much as he does is just awesome.

cthomer5000 · 10-03-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

And what happened to the Titans.They have just fallen apart at the seams. They didn't get hit by the injury bug but a full scale plague down there.Maybe its time to trade McNair or even Mason since next years is itcontract wise for both and resigning them is very slim.I hate to sell the farm so soon but 27 seasons as a OIler/Titans fan tells me they are finished for this year as far a playoff run is concerned.I would say they should start looking at retooling.But boy what a run Fisher had with them.They were the winningest team in the last decade I do believe.I guess the fall can be attributed to the NFL as it is and free agency.

This post looks VERY familiar.

ISiddiqui · 10-03-2004, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

Yeah, I remembered the 4th and 5 thing right after I posted. Too good.

I find it impossible not to like the guy. Anyone who seems to enjoy and respect the game as much as he does is just awesome.

And of course every team in the league passed on him until the Falcons had him, let him rot on the bench and then dealt him to the Packers who kept him behind the Majik man, until an injury Wally Pipp'ed him

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Samdari · 10-04-2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

So, I guess now the Falcons are the worst 4-0 team in history.

I'll put my money down on yes. I think they fail to make the playoffs.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 08:30 AM

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I'll put my money down on yes. I think they fail to make the playoffs.

I'll take that bet.

ISiddiqui · 10-04-2004, 09:44 AM

So would I. The Falcons defense is amazing. Green Bay must be kicking themselves for letting Donatell go for ONE PLAY! Oh well, their loss

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cthomer5000 · 10-04-2004, 09:47 AM

I would most certainly take that bet. .500 ball from here on out probably gives them the division.

flere-imsaho · 10-04-2004, 10:11 AM

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Knowing that Favre is old and beat up, I can't believe the Packers don't have a better backup QB than Doug Pederson. He's awful. This could be a long season...

It's going to be a long season for the entire NFC North unless you're a Vikings fan. Even there....

I betcha the Lions grab a Wild Card spot this year. Amazing. And maybe the Bears can draft Williams from USC to give Grossman someone to throw to.

HornedFrog Purple · 10-04-2004, 10:13 AM

Roy Williams is pretty good.

flere-imsaho · 10-04-2004, 11:23 AM

Wow, the 49ers were bad. Is it really true they have something like $40 million in dead cap space, or was that just Summerall's fading memory again?

rkmsuf · 10-04-2004, 11:35 AM

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Wow, the 49ers were bad. Is it really true they have something like $40 million in dead cap space, or was that just Summerall's fading memory again?

I don't know but at one point Summeral said Erickson was 7-12 last year for the 49ers.

cthomer5000 · 10-04-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Wow, the 49ers were bad. Is it really true they have something like $40 million in dead cap space, or was that just Summerall's fading memory again?

Not 40 mill, but pretty bad:
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports...11567007c.html

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The 49ers head into the season with a $28 million pot of dead money - cap space occupied by players no longer on the team - that far outweighs that of any other NFL team.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I would most certainly take that bet. .500 ball from here on out probably gives them the division.

Especially considering this was the first division game (and it was at the home of the best team in the division). The Falcons should not lose more than two of their remaining division games. They are at this point by far the favorite to win the NFC South.

DeToxRox · 10-04-2004, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Especially considering this was the first division game (and it was at the home of the best team in the division). The Falcons should not lose more than two of their remaining division games. They are at this point by far the favorite to win the NFC South.

No one thought the Vikes could blow it either.

If Vick gets hurt, Falcons have no shot.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 12:50 PM

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No one thought the Vikes could blow it either.

If Vick gets hurt, Falcons have no shot.

I think they can win without Vick this year. He is not the reason they are #2 in scoring defense and #1 in rushing defense, and that is the reason they are 4-0.

DeToxRox · 10-04-2004, 12:51 PM

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I think they can win without Vick this year. He is not the reason they are #2 in scoring defense and #1 in rushing defense, and that is the reason they are 4-0.

Yes, but he keeps their defense off of the field. If a new QB comes in and they can't move the ball, the D will be on the field a lot more, and no matter how good they are, those numbers will go up.

DeToxRox · 10-04-2004, 12:52 PM

.. Oh and yes, you'll be 4-1 after Sunday, when Roy Williams dismantles their secondary.

Yeah, I am a Lions fan, but just you wait.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Yes, but he keeps their defense off of the field. If a new QB comes in and they can't move the ball, the D will be on the field a lot more, and no matter how good they are, those numbers will go up.

Not if they are still #1 in rushing. They are that with his help, but even without him they can run the ball. Alex Gibbs is a genius.

rkmsuf · 10-04-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think they can win without Vick this year. He is not the reason they are #2 in scoring defense and #1 in rushing defense, and that is the reason they are 4-0.

I don't think they can win without Vick. Yes the defense is good now but I suspect they will not maintain this pace. They'll be good but not #1 or #2 good over the season.

To make some noise will require Vick and the offense to make some strides and really improve on what they are doing. Vick can do it; I'm not so sure Schaub can. Also, the fact the defenses have to account for Vick and waste time spying or scheming helps.

There's something intangible about having him out there. Look at 2 years ago.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rkmsuf

I don't think they can will without Vick. Yes the defense is good now but I suspect they will not maintain this pace. They'll be good but not #1 or #2 good over the season.

To make some noise will require Vick and the offense to make some strides and really improve on what they are doing. Vick can do it; I'm not so sure Schaub can. Also, the fact the defenses have to account for Vick and waste time spying or scheming helps.

There's something intangible about having him out there. Look at 2 years ago.

But this isn't last years team. This team can go .500 the rest of the way without Vick. .500 from here wins the NFC South.

rkmsuf · 10-04-2004, 12:59 PM

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But this isn't last years team. This team can go .500 the rest of the way without Vick. .500 from here wins the NFC South.

That's true. I was thinking more in terms of contending in the playoffs.

GrantDawg · 10-04-2004, 01:01 PM

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That's true. I was thinking more in terms of contending in the playoffs.

I don't think they will contend in the playoffs even with Vick. They are not to that level yet.

DeToxRox · 10-04-2004, 01:03 PM

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Not if they are still #1 in rushing. They are that with his help, but even without him they can run the ball. Alex Gibbs is a genius.

I guess I am still somewhat skeptical. If Vick is out, you can put 8 and 9 in the box and not worry about him beating you to the outside. I am probably wrong, but the dimension he adds of just scaring people is enough to make your run game open up.

They do have two capable backs however, so we shall see.

Just be ready for ROY *Rookie Of the Year* Williams to carve up the Falcons secondary Sunday baby.

rkmsuf · 10-04-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I don't think they will contend in the playoffs even with Vick. They are not to that level yet.

I could see them winning an opening round game. I don't think they are ready to go into Philly or anything but beyond them or maybe Seattle there's not much difference between them.

mckerney · 10-04-2004, 01:41 PM

With Matt Schaub as a backup the Falcons will obviously miss Vick if he goes out, but they'll still get solid play from the quarterback position.

10-03-2004, 09:16 PM	#201
Sharpieman Greatly Missed. (7/11/84-06/12/05) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Palo Alto, CA	My Niners are getting spanked right now. __________________ Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

10-03-2004, 11:14 PM	#206
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Oh, and in addition to that... the TD pass... it was on 4th and 5 . The man is going to be remembered in NFL lore for years and years. You'll have people telling their favorite Farve story for as long as we can remember. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-04-2004, 09:44 AM	#213
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	So would I. The Falcons defense is amazing. Green Bay must be kicking themselves for letting Donatell go for ONE PLAY! Oh well, their loss . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-04-2004, 10:13 AM	#216
HornedFrog Purple Hattrick Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Worthless, Tx	Roy Williams is pretty good. __________________ King of All FOFC Media!!! IHOF: Fort Worthless Fury- 2004 AOC Deep South Champions (not acknowledged via conspiracy)

10-03-2004, 11:35 PM	#207
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	And what happened to the Titans.They have just fallen apart at the seams. They didn't get hit by the injury bug but a full scale plague down there.Maybe its time to trade McNair or even Mason since next years is itcontract wise for both and resigning them is very slim.I hate to sell the farm so soon but 27 seasons as a OIler/Titans fan tells me they are finished for this year as far a playoff run is concerned.I would say they should start looking at retooling.But boy what a run Fisher had with them.They were the winningest team in the last decade I do believe.I guess the fall can be attributed to the NFL as it is and free agency.

10-04-2004, 11:23 AM	#217
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Wow, the 49ers were bad. Is it really true they have something like $40 million in dead cap space, or was that just Summerall's fading memory again?

10-04-2004, 12:52 PM	#224
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	.. Oh and yes, you'll be 4-1 after Sunday, when Roy Williams dismantles their secondary. Yeah, I am a Lions fan, but just you wait.

10-04-2004, 01:41 PM	#232
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	With Matt Schaub as a backup the Falcons will obviously miss Vick if he goes out, but they'll still get solid play from the quarterback position.

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