Music Maven 3 - Page 5

sterlingice · 03-01-2005, 01:46 AM

Looks like the game is back and updated

SI

Suicane75 · 03-01-2005, 02:04 AM

I logged in, and my band is gone.

JHandley · 03-01-2005, 02:45 AM

SI-

Did you find out where the 20% you're skimming off us goes?

sterlingice · 03-01-2005, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHandley

SI-

Did you find out where the 20% you're skimming off us goes?

Actually, no clue. According to the "Manage Label" menu:

Free to spend: $6

And that's what's left of the $21 I put in there originally.

SI

sterlingice · 03-01-2005, 03:17 AM

Actually, it looks like it goes back to my band, near as I can tell. What I wouldn't give for a bit better FAQ and rules. Anyone know how much single and album sales bring in so that I know how much to give back when re-upp'ing bands?

SI

vex · 03-01-2005, 07:29 AM

My labels money system seems to be working as I now have about $500 in the label account after a someone sold a single.

Calis · 03-01-2005, 09:15 AM

How do I do re-presses of a single?

Had no idea how it'd go so I only put out 100 copies of my single, trying to figure out how to mass produce the suckers now.

Happy though, finally started raking in some cash, made about 6.5k this last month.

EDIT: Cancel that, found it..don't know how I missed it the first look through.

JHandley · 03-01-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Actually, it looks like it goes back to my band, near as I can tell. What I wouldn't give for a bit better FAQ and rules. Anyone know how much single and album sales bring in so that I know how much to give back when re-upp'ing bands?

SI

Looking at the earnings of my single, it appears that each single brings in $2, but that the label doesn't get any money until the band's cost is covered.

Last month I sold out my intial pressing of 3000 copies, I have 4 fields for earnings:
Label Cost - $0
Band Cost - $6100
Label Gross - $0
Band Gross - $6000

So this month, the label should start seeing some income as mine and the other singles start to cover the band cost.

Swaggs · 03-01-2005, 11:56 AM

How do you repress singles or albums?

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

vex · 03-01-2005, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

How do you repress singles or albums?

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

Go to "Band Details"
Go down to your "Band Discography"
Then click on your single, and you'll be able to order on the next screen.

As for the second question, I don't have a clue.

ShovelMonkey · 03-01-2005, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swaggs

How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired?

I'm thinking your stuck with that label until you apply to another. Which kinda sucks because then you can't do independent releases.

vex · 03-01-2005, 12:24 PM

Looks as I'll(Flair) be bringing in $2,190 for FOFC Live! next week if my 8000 additional copies sellout this month.

vex · 03-01-2005, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShovelMonkey

I'm thinking your stuck with that label until you apply to another. Which kinda sucks because then you can't do independent releases.

If it lets you, you could create your own label and then transfer whatever funds back to your band.

sterlingice · 03-01-2005, 02:02 PM

So, whenever you guys reup with FOFC Live! just tell me what you guys have in your "Label Gross" columns. I'll double check the math (since I can't see who sends the cash to the label) and send it in your new contract.

SI

JHandley · 03-01-2005, 03:25 PM

SI-

Don't you also have an option when you offer a contract that states how much money you'll spend on promotion? Maybe instead of just funnelling it all back to us, we can pool our funds and have the label spend on promotion? Just a thought.

vex · 03-01-2005, 04:30 PM

Here is all the owner of the label sees when he offers a contract:

Offer Recording Contract Step 3 of 3: Set Contract Details
Band Name:	The Cornelius Machine
# of Singles Allowed:
# of Albums Allowed:
Budget Provided by Label for Each Recording ($):

sterlingice · 03-01-2005, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHandley

SI-

Don't you also have an option when you offer a contract that states how much money you'll spend on promotion? Maybe instead of just funnelling it all back to us, we can pool our funds and have the label spend on promotion? Just a thought.

Yeah, unfortunately, that isn't an option.

SI

JHandley · 03-01-2005, 07:05 PM

Well, it would have been a cool idea.

If all you can do with the money is help out with the production costs, the whole contract is just plain silly. The band has to pay back all production costs to the label before it sees any profits, of which the band will only keep 80%. So all the label is really doing is fronting the band the money.

From what I can tell, the purpose of labels is to see which label can make the most money and to help fledgling bands get a single out. However, it has been shown that with a little touring, an independant release isn't hard to acheive. If that's the case, I'm not going to keep track of how much I've paid to the label, you can just keep it and use it either for prestige or for new bands.

I think I just don't get this part of the game.

McSweeny · 03-01-2005, 07:07 PM

yeah i don't see myself bothering with any labels. DIY all the way for my band

cthomer5000 · 03-01-2005, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHandley

Well, it would have been a cool idea.

If all you can do with the money is help out with the production costs, the whole contract is just plain silly. The band has to pay back all production costs to the label before it sees any profits, of which the band will only keep 80%. So all the label is really doing is fronting the band the money.

From what I can tell, the purpose of labels is to see which label can make the most money and to help fledgling bands get a single out. However, it has been shown that with a little touring, an independant release isn't hard to acheive. If that's the case, I'm not going to keep track of how much I've paid to the label, you can just keep it and use it either for prestige or for new bands.

I think I just don't get this part of the game.

The game is fun, but it has a long way to go before it comes close to approximating reality.

cthomer5000 · 03-01-2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHandley

I didn't mean to come off as whining. You're right the game is fun, I just don't think I understand the reason for labels. Or rather, I don't think this part of the game has been fleshed out yet.

Mainly my post was to see if I was the only one who saw things that way.

Not at all. And I would say one problem is that a lot of the regular players don't seem too interested in seeing the game become more realistic (based upon what i've read and written in the forums over htere).

JHandley · 03-01-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The game is fun, but it has a long way to go before it comes close to approximating reality.

I didn't mean to come off as whining. You're right the game is fun, I just don't think I understand the reason for labels. Or rather, I don't think this part of the game has been fleshed out yet.

Mainly my post was to see if I was the only one who saw things that way.

Airhog · 03-01-2005, 08:57 PM

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!

JeeberD · 03-01-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!

Boobies?

vex · 03-01-2005, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airhog

All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something!

They bring a whole new level to the elitists category attitude.

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:24 AM

Well, looks like no complete update...again.

DanGarion · 03-02-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vexroid

Well, looks like no complete update...again.

Calm down it's still updating...

"The game is currently being updated. No changes can be made at this time."

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dangarion

Calm down it's still updating...

"The game is currently being updated. No changes can be made at this time."

If it didn't do it by 12:20 CST, it's not going to. It's stuck, again.

sterlingice · 03-02-2005, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vexroid

Well, looks like no complete update...again.

Nah- it's updated. It just takes a little time

SI

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 12:50 AM

Mine's fully updated.

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:54 AM

I was wrong, and I'm very happy

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:56 AM

Two of my bands are rocking the singles charts at #3 and 4! Time to order more copies!

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:56 AM

So SI, did FOFC get some money from my release now?

vex · 03-02-2005, 12:59 AM

FOFC Live! is rolling out the releases:

Best Selling Albums Last Month
Band	Type	Release Name	Release Date	Sales Last Month
Rising Hayabusa	Single	Shooting Star Press	2005-11-01	125
Double D & The Usuals	Single	The Untitled Single	2005-11-01	1,000
Strutter	Single	Futbol	2005-11-01	350
PTSH	Single	Boil Time Demo	2005-10-01	4,700
Flair	Single	Never	2005-10-01	9,000
The Cells	Single	The Cells	2005-10-01	9,768
The Klein Bottles	Single	Twisting, Never Ending	2005-10-01	2,000
The Pasty White Thighs	Single	Porkchops & Applesauce	2005-10-01	2,600

Label Genre:	All genres
Owner:	Dmitri Alexander
Description: The main label for any band from Front Office Football Central.

CURRENTLY ON TOUR

Fascist Eagle (US Central)

Strutter (US Central)

RELEASES DUE THIS MONTH

sterlingice · 03-02-2005, 01:02 AM

I like seeing a Russian name for the band leader. Makes me think I created a mafia member who is running things

As for money to the band, it's not much but it's a start

Record Label Name:	FOFC Live!
Funds:	Free to spend: $57 Tied up in record contracts: $14 Transfer Funds

I wish there was a way for label leaders to see which albums brought in which funds.

SI

vex · 03-02-2005, 01:04 AM

Hmmn, you should have got $2000 from me alone.

vex · 03-02-2005, 01:07 AM

My label, Sparrow Records, looks like this now:

Record Label Name:	Sparrow Records
Funds:	Free to spend: $1,498 Tied up in record contracts: $780

sterlingice · 03-02-2005, 01:07 AM

Wonder if it takes a month to filter in or something (ie this is from last month).

SI

vex · 03-02-2005, 01:15 AM

My label got money as soon as the first band released a single last month, we went to $500, now with two more releases we're at $1,500. Seems something is screwy. Who's our accountant anyways?

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 01:19 AM

Are we sure that playing Music Maven gives happiness?

I just did 11 days of that and I lost happiness.

sterlingice · 03-02-2005, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TazFTW

Are we sure that playing Music Maven gives happiness?

I just did 11 days of that and I lost happiness.

Not sure, personally. Did you abuse them in practice? I did this past month and my bands went from 95-100 to 75-80. But if you did 11 days of rest, that leaves a lot less days of practice than I did to them.

SI

vex · 03-02-2005, 01:23 AM

Ouch.

TazFTW · 03-02-2005, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Not sure, personally. Did you abuse them in practice? I did this past month and my bands went from 95-100 to 75-80. But if you did 11 days of rest, that leaves a lot less days of practice than I did to them.

SI

I used a 7 on that laid back to boot camp scale, maybe it was that.

Ben E Lou · 03-02-2005, 07:46 AM

Look out, fellas. Rumor has it that Too Bad Bruthaz will be releasing their first LP next month.

Livin' in the A-T-L	2005-04-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	6
Hardcore Niggaz	2005-05-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	10
Where my niggaz at?	2005-06-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	11
Cut it up D.J.	2005-07-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	13
Thow up ya hands	2005-08-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	15
Don't Step to us.	2005-09-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	16
Where da real niggaz at?	2005-09-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	16
Gangstaz on the move.	2005-12-01	Gangsta Groove (Album)	21

cthomer5000 · 03-02-2005, 08:43 AM

Watery Hands have got another single dropping this month. We should be ready to drop a full length of entirely new material in 2-3 months.

Watery Hands

Swaggs · 03-02-2005, 12:09 PM

Any of the guys running labels figured out how to resign your bands after they have fulfilled their contracts?

I've looked all over and can't seem to find it.

vtbub · 03-02-2005, 01:10 PM

The Spinning Wheels are touring the US East Coast.

Swaggs · 03-02-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtbub

The Spinning Wheels are touring the US East Coast.

You're gonna be huge!

Calis · 03-02-2005, 01:51 PM

Crap, knew the Pasty White Thighs should've printed more than 2,600...damn it all!

Things are going well though, happy.

Coffee Warlord · 03-02-2005, 01:56 PM

Legendary Gothic band Office Pimps has officially formed in my Chicago basement. Fear us.

03-01-2005, 01:46 AM	#201
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Looks like the game is back and updated SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-01-2005, 03:17 AM	#205
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Actually, it looks like it goes back to my band, near as I can tell. What I wouldn't give for a bit better FAQ and rules. Anyone know how much single and album sales bring in so that I know how much to give back when re-upp'ing bands? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-01-2005, 09:15 AM	#207
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	How do I do re-presses of a single? Had no idea how it'd go so I only put out 100 copies of my single, trying to figure out how to mass produce the suckers now. Happy though, finally started raking in some cash, made about 6.5k this last month. EDIT: Cancel that, found it..don't know how I missed it the first look through. Last edited by Calis : 03-01-2005 at 09:17 AM.

03-01-2005, 11:56 AM	#209
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	How do you repress singles or albums? How do you resign bands after their contracts are expired? __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-01-2005, 02:02 PM	#214
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	So, whenever you guys reup with FOFC Live! just tell me what you guys have in your "Label Gross" columns. I'll double check the math (since I can't see who sends the cash to the label) and send it in your new contract. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-01-2005, 02:04 AM	#202
Suicane75 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ	I logged in, and my band is gone.

03-01-2005, 02:45 AM	#203
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	SI- Did you find out where the 20% you're skimming off us goes?

03-01-2005, 07:29 AM	#206
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	My labels money system seems to be working as I now have about $500 in the label account after a someone sold a single.

03-01-2005, 12:24 PM	#212
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Looks as I'll(Flair) be bringing in $2,190 for FOFC Live! next week if my 8000 additional copies sellout this month.

03-01-2005, 03:25 PM	#215
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	SI- Don't you also have an option when you offer a contract that states how much money you'll spend on promotion? Maybe instead of just funnelling it all back to us, we can pool our funds and have the label spend on promotion? Just a thought.

03-01-2005, 07:05 PM	#218
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Well, it would have been a cool idea. If all you can do with the money is help out with the production costs, the whole contract is just plain silly. The band has to pay back all production costs to the label before it sees any profits, of which the band will only keep 80%. So all the label is really doing is fronting the band the money. From what I can tell, the purpose of labels is to see which label can make the most money and to help fledgling bands get a single out. However, it has been shown that with a little touring, an independant release isn't hard to acheive. If that's the case, I'm not going to keep track of how much I've paid to the label, you can just keep it and use it either for prestige or for new bands. I think I just don't get this part of the game.

03-01-2005, 07:07 PM	#219
McSweeny College Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somerville, MA	yeah i don't see myself bothering with any labels. DIY all the way for my band

03-01-2005, 08:57 PM	#223
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	All I know it, MM3 needs someone to moderate those forums. My god they are 10x worse then FOFC, and thats really saying something! __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

03-02-2005, 12:24 AM	#226
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Well, looks like no complete update...again.

03-02-2005, 12:50 AM	#230
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Mine's fully updated.

03-02-2005, 12:54 AM	#231
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I was wrong, and I'm very happy

03-02-2005, 12:56 AM	#232
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Two of my bands are rocking the singles charts at #3 and 4! Time to order more copies!

03-02-2005, 12:56 AM	#233
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	So SI, did FOFC get some money from my release now?

03-02-2005, 01:04 AM	#236
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Hmmn, you should have got $2000 from me alone.

03-02-2005, 01:07 AM	#238
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Wonder if it takes a month to filter in or something (ie this is from last month). SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 03-02-2005 at 01:07 AM.

03-02-2005, 01:15 AM	#239
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	My label got money as soon as the first band released a single last month, we went to $500, now with two more releases we're at $1,500. Seems something is screwy. Who's our accountant anyways?

03-02-2005, 01:19 AM	#240
TazFTW Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Honolulu, HI	Are we sure that playing Music Maven gives happiness? I just did 11 days of that and I lost happiness.

03-02-2005, 01:23 AM	#242
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	Ouch.

03-02-2005, 12:09 PM	#246
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Any of the guys running labels figured out how to resign your bands after they have fulfilled their contracts? I've looked all over and can't seem to find it. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

03-02-2005, 01:10 PM	#247
vtbub College Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burlington, VT USA	The Spinning Wheels are touring the US East Coast. __________________

03-02-2005, 01:51 PM	#249
Calis College Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas	Crap, knew the Pasty White Thighs should've printed more than 2,600...damn it all! Things are going well though, happy. Last edited by Calis : 03-02-2005 at 01:54 PM.

03-02-2005, 01:56 PM	#250
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Legendary Gothic band Office Pimps has officially formed in my Chicago basement. Fear us.

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