Bowl Bound College Football Demo is out! - Page 5

Senator · 11-23-2005, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac

anyone know if the conferences are editable, i.e. the # of conferences, the # of teams in each conference. I know you can edit them a la TC (team/conference names), but it would be cool if we had different sized leagues. A D-1aa, D2 or D3 mod with playoffs would be awesome.

NAIA!!! I have become quite the afficianado of this, if anyone has any interest but me.

sovereignstar · 11-23-2005, 03:16 PM

NAIA kicks ass. Go Mayville State!

Arles · 11-23-2005, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

Problems I've seen so far:

Thanks for the comments, I'll add them to our working list.

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3) If you select a defensive formation other than the original one set for the team, the play "suggest" still suggests the old formation plays all the time. I made my team 4-3 before the year, but every play suggestion is a 3-4 play (if not a nickel or dime situation).

Make sure you click "Save changes" when you make the change in training camp. We've seen a few instances like this where someone switched to 4-3 or 4-2-5, clicked suggest but didn't save. A quick way to check this is go to your def strategy screen inseason and see what is listed for your team.

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6) There really should be an option to have your assistants manage study hall time. It isn't as bad as TCY time management, but I have no interest in managing study hall allocations.

This will be in the final version - as will be the ability to turn off academics.

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7) When simming a whole season, I see too much parity. Admittedly, this is also based on small sample sizes. The last season I simmed had 1 undefeated team after the bowls, no 1 loss teams, only 4 two loss teams, and 3 teams in the top 25 with 5 loses. That feels wrong to me, but I also admit I don't have the normal win distributions in college football data to back me up.

I'll check into that. But the 2004 season might have been the oddball from that standpoint. In 2003, there were 0 undefeated teams, 3 1-loss and 6 2-loss after the bowls. In 2002, there were 2 undefeated, 2 1-loss and 6 2-loss teams. So, I don't think seeing 5 combined 0-2 teams is that far off. I do, though, think we need to do a little more tweaking with the rankings as SOS may be a little too important when looking at the middle teams in the Top 25 (3-5 losses).

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The game has potential, IMO, but it is still a definite wait-and-see for me.

Again, thanks to you and others for the great feedback. We'll see what we can do to get these issues addressed.

digamma · 11-23-2005, 03:48 PM

One other small one...

It looks like return game stats are being calculated with yardage from inside the end zone being added to it. I believe in college return yardage is maxed at 100, unlike the NFL. See Vasher, Nate.

Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.

sovereignstar · 11-23-2005, 03:53 PM

I think it'd be cool if we could see potential recruits' e-mail addresses. That way we could filter out the guys who have ridiculous ones.

Emiliano · 11-23-2005, 04:09 PM

Guys: is anyone else having problems setting the offensive depth chart??? I can't put more than 3 players in the split end spot. If I try to do that, the 4th split end goes into the 1st flanker position. The same happens with flankers and tight ends, but this time I can't put more than 2 flankers.

Mountain · 11-23-2005, 04:09 PM

I have also seen the nine point TDs problem. It happened to me twice in one game causing me to lose the game. I was winning the game 17-6. The opposition scores and decides to go for two. The game allows me to select a defense to defend against the two point conversion play. Then the kicker comes out for the extra point instead of running a two point play, kicks the ball and gets awarded 3points instead of one point. It also happened the exact same way at the end of the game when I was winning 23-15. Opponent scores gets the three point extra point and beats me 24-23. DOH!!!!!!!

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 04:31 PM

Sacks should be counted as rushing yards for qbs. It appears they are not tallied that way in the game.

Groundhog · 11-23-2005, 04:32 PM

I played the demo last nite for about 45 mins (d/l didn't finish until late last nite), and I must say I was quite impressed. I did notice some bugs, particularily in the PbP (3pt extra point, wrong team with the penalty), but nothing that hasn't been mentioned already. This looks like a game that is going to hold my attention for some time, and from what I've seen so far I'll probably pick it up on release day. It also marks the first GDS release that I haven't had a single RTE in my first play-through

jbmagic · 11-23-2005, 04:34 PM

i dont no how often arlie checks this forum, but if you posted bugs here, you should also post at grey dog forum too.

Ben E Lou · 11-23-2005, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Sacks should be counted as rushing yards for qbs. It appears they are not tallied that way in the game.

That was a design decision, one that I wholeheartedly agree with. It is much easier to evaluate how good of a runner your QB is without sacks factored in. Sacks are counted in team rushing yardage, but not in individual QB yardage.

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

That was a design decision, one that I wholeheartedly agree with. It is much easier to evaluate how good of a runner your QB is without sacks factored in. Sacks are counted in team rushing yardage, but not in individual QB yardage.

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not sure i agree but it's not a big deal

Emiliano · 11-23-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i dont no how often arlie checks this forum, but if you posted bugs here, you should also post at grey dog forum too.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I'm gonna do it.

digamma · 11-23-2005, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

That was a design decision, one that I wholeheartedly agree with. It is much easier to evaluate how good of a runner your QB is without sacks factored in. Sacks are counted in team rushing yardage, but not in individual QB yardage.

Well, there are two sides to that. On the one hand, there are those who value realism, on the other, there are those whose little pea brains apparently can't handle evaluating their qb's rushing ability with sacks factored in, so much so that they would rather have a game that plays like the NFL rather than the way college football really works. The latter crowd won out.

And, FWIW, I'm having offensive depth chart issues as well (similar to those described above).

sovereignstar · 11-23-2005, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Well, there are two sides to that. On the one hand, there are those who value realism, on the other, there are those whose little pea brains apparently can't handle more evaluating their qb's rushing ability with sacks factored in, so much so that they would rather have a game that plays like the NFL rather than the way college football really works. The latter crowd won out.

zing!

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 04:47 PM

/Marv Albert's Voice

And a FACIAL from digamma!

/end Marv Albert's Voice

John Galt · 11-23-2005, 04:51 PM

A couple other things:

1) My expectations playing Army are not to lose too much to Navy. But Navy isn't even on my schedule. There is no Army/Navy game set.

2) Sticky choices would be good in a few places. One would be the opening create league menu (so I don't have to enter my name, league name, etc.). Another that would be nice is in the game play screen, locking the sim speed to your previous choice (I always go to "very fast"). Generally, IMO, sticky is always better.

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 05:04 PM

It seems like there are too many transfers, but I don't really know how common it is in real life.

GrantDawg · 11-23-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by digamma

Well, there are two sides to that. On the one hand, there are those who value realism, on the other, there are those whose little pea brains apparently can't handle evaluating their qb's rushing ability with sacks factored in, so much so that they would rather have a game that plays like the NFL rather than the way college football really works. The latter crowd won out.

And, FWIW, I'm having offensive depth chart issues as well (similar to those described above).

No, no. You da man!!!

GrantDawg · 11-23-2005, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by John Galt

A couple other things:

1) My expectations playing Army are not to lose too much to Navy. But Navy isn't even on my schedule. There is no Army/Navy game set.

2) Sticky choices would be good in a few places. One would be the opening create league menu (so I don't have to enter my name, league name, etc.). Another that would be nice is in the game play screen, locking the sim speed to your previous choice (I always go to "very fast"). Generally, IMO, sticky is always better.

Who the heck is Army's rival then?

GrantDawg · 11-23-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

It seems like there are too many transfers, but I don't really know how common it is in real life.

Major teams lose a couple a year. I don't know about lower tier teams.

Senator · 11-23-2005, 05:29 PM

I am goofing around with the league structures, and I notice you cannot delete teams or divisions. I am trying to create 11 single division conferences with between four and 11 schools in each conference. Where can you remove entire divisions and teams?

bhlloy · 11-23-2005, 05:35 PM

I absolutely hate the way academics works. IRL it is a big factor (especially with incoming freshmen) but losing between 3 and 5 different guys every 4 weeks is too much IMO.

If it's not toned down for the full version I'm glad there is the option to turn it off

thealmighty · 11-23-2005, 05:36 PM

Icy, in your team name pack,it should be TCU Horned Frogs, not Horn Frogs.

ANd thanks so much for the effort you put into this. Greatly appreciated.

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Major teams lose a couple a year. I don't know about lower tier teams.

If that's the case, I take it back.

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 05:54 PM

dola

I've just started playing with the recruiting. It's very deep, but a bit non-intuitive in terms of negotiating. This is the first part of the game where I've wanted a manual.

For example, players on my watch list ... I guess if you don't change the recruiting action, it stays the same for each week?

The recruit player cards are a little messy - it's hard to find the information I need. For example, I don't see any way to find out WHICH schools have offered a scholly.

Buccaneer · 11-23-2005, 06:09 PM

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I imagine other old folks with failing memories

Hey.

digamma · 11-23-2005, 06:12 PM

A few more nits/comments:

1. The poll logic seems off. I was #12 and played #16 Alabama at home. We both had the same record going into the game. They beat us by a touchdown. The next week in the polls, I'm #13 and they are #15.

2. On the polls screen, it makes more sense to me to note the team had a bye the week before, rather than noting the last team they played--but that is probably a preference issue.

3. There seemed to be a significant number of teams finishing their season in week #12. I understand scheduling is a bitch in these games, but just offering it up.

4. I'm also seeing parity similar to what John Galt did.

5. I'm seeing a lot of defensive holding penalties. I haven't slogged through the game logs to see if they're really disproportionate, but it feels like it's called quite frequently.

6. Could the injury status (or just that a player is injured) be noted on the depth chart screen, as a way to eliminate extra clicks of going back to the roster screen or opening the player card?

7. I have also now seen the "going for 3" bug.

digamma · 11-23-2005, 06:21 PM

dola...
a few more...

8. Also on the poll screen, conference championship games should be listed as the "next" game.

9. I had two teams from the same conference meet in a bowl game (not the national championship game).

10. Is there a screen that lists all bowl games?

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 06:26 PM

For recruiting, it would be nice to be able to sort by position group, as well as position. So for example, see all linebackers, see all offensive linemen, all cbs and safeties.

Ben E Lou · 11-23-2005, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar

zing!

Nah, there's a big difference.

General Mike · 11-23-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Major teams lose a couple a year. I don't know about lower tier teams.

Lower tier teams lose guys too, but they also get guys in. The guys that transfer from places like Rutgers, et al, end up going to 1-AA in alot of cases or just giving up the sport.

vex · 11-23-2005, 06:50 PM

I seriously need a white background with dark text, this is killing me.

Ben E Lou · 11-23-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

I seriously need a white background with dark text, this is killing me.

Yah. I made the same comment to Arlie within about 30 minutes of getting the beta. It kills my eyes.

duckman · 11-23-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

I seriously need a white background with dark text, this is killing me.

I had to stop playing it last night because it set off a migraine like headache from the strain caused by it. I may have to hold off buying it until there is an alternate background.

Ben E Lou · 11-23-2005, 07:04 PM

Yeah...my dynasty is on hold for the rest of the day because of it. I was basically off all day today, and wanted to play all day, but my eyes couldn't take the strain.

Galaril · 11-23-2005, 07:05 PM

Fist off, great game. One question about gameplans to anyone. Do you have to set up the game plans if you play the games out. I play out my teams games and call the plays or hit the suggest button. Does the AI use the games plans that are set up before the game to help pick a suggestion or is it based on game situation?

Airhog · 11-23-2005, 07:11 PM

well no takers on the last comment I made. Anyways, can some other people check out their install log found in the main game directory, and let me know if at the bottom of the log they are got any of these errors?

Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\vbajet32.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\stdole2.tlb
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ovsCombo2D.ocx
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\olepro32.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msxbde40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswstr10.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswdat10.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mstext40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrepl40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrecr40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrd3x40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrd2x40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrclr40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mspbde40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msltus40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjter40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjint40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjet40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msexcl40.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msexch40.dll
Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\expsrv.dll
Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.ocx

Buccaneer · 11-23-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by duckman

I had to stop playing it last night because it set off a migraine like headache from the strain caused by it. I may have to hold off buying it until there is an alternate background.

Which is why I wonder why people still use the Sideline Green template. I have always used the default blue/gray because black text on a light background works best for these old eyes.

vex · 11-23-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Which is why I wonder why people still use the Sideline Green template. I have always used the default blue/gray because black text on a light background works best for these old eyes.

Don't forget classic yellow

duckman · 11-23-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Which is why I wonder why people still use the Sideline Green template. I have always used the default blue/gray because black text on a light background works best for these old eyes.

I couldn't stand it during the Sideline days because everytime I would go to a "normal" site, I would be overwhelmed with the brightness of the screen and would set off one of those headaches.

Buccaneer · 11-23-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vexroid

Don't forget classic yellow

I purposely did not mention that for fear of puking. I would take migraines over hawking loogies.

vex · 11-23-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I purposely did not mention that for fear of puking. I would take migraines over hawking loogies.

Don't be hatin on the yellow!

Ben E Lou · 11-23-2005, 07:36 PM

Yellow, standard...anything that is a light background with dark lettering ultimately works for me.

MJ4H · 11-23-2005, 07:39 PM

I'm actually kind of the opposite. I've always vastly preferred light text on a dark background. Seems easier on my eyes.

vex · 11-23-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Yellow, standard...anything that is a light background with dark lettering ultimately works for me.

I suppose this is true for me too. Wasn't yellow the standard on our last board? I think that's why I use it, even though back in the day I hated it.

Danny · 11-23-2005, 07:49 PM

Yellow FTW

Senator · 11-23-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottVib

This hasn't been fully tested, but at least so far you can. The limits on conference realignment is the new configuration must match one of the pre-existing schedule formats within the game. But you can add/remove teams etc. (I have tested this with one or two leagues, but definitely not completely and thoroughly, so its a buyer beware situation)

Arlie is amenable to potentially adding new schedule/league formats.. but these would only be added after release, if at all.

The following schedule formats are presently in the game:

4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14 (12 and 14 team conferences must have 2 divisions)

I have provided Arlie with several other schedule formats (needed to allow for "full" compatibility with other league sizes): 5, 6, 13 teams 2 divisions, 13 teams 1 division

As I mentioned he is potentially willing to add the ones I've sent him (and perhaps others) but it will only happen after release, if at all.

How are these achieved in the context of the game environment? Is this something I need to do in Access or can I make league sizes within the game. I am trying to make a 1 division 11 conference league with 4-11 teams in each. Is this something I can do within the game, or is it something that will require outside tools?

st.cronin · 11-23-2005, 08:00 PM

There's really going to HAVE to be a schedule set up for 3 independents. Temple will be in the MAC next year, and I would think most people will want to be able to play with 3 independents and Temple in the MAC.

ScottVib · 11-23-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator

How are these achieved in the context of the game environment? Is this something I need to do in Access or can I make league sizes within the game. I am trying to make a 1 division 11 conference league with 4-11 teams in each. Is this something I can do within the game, or is it something that will require outside tools?

You'll need to set it up in Access, in access you'd adjust the conference and team setup tables to fit your league.

11-23-2005, 04:09 PM	#206
Emiliano College Prospect Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nuremberg, Germany	Guys: is anyone else having problems setting the offensive depth chart??? I can't put more than 3 players in the split end spot. If I try to do that, the 4th split end goes into the 1st flanker position. The same happens with flankers and tight ends, but this time I can't put more than 2 flankers. __________________ Xbox Live&PSN: Emiliano81 GM of the Rome Gladiators in the WOOF

11-23-2005, 04:32 PM	#209
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I played the demo last nite for about 45 mins (d/l didn't finish until late last nite), and I must say I was quite impressed. I did notice some bugs, particularily in the PbP (3pt extra point, wrong team with the penalty), but nothing that hasn't been mentioned already. This looks like a game that is going to hold my attention for some time, and from what I've seen so far I'll probably pick it up on release day. It also marks the first GDS release that I haven't had a single RTE in my first play-through __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

11-23-2005, 04:51 PM	#217
John Galt Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Internets	A couple other things: 1) My expectations playing Army are not to lose too much to Navy. But Navy isn't even on my schedule. There is no Army/Navy game set. 2) Sticky choices would be good in a few places. One would be the opening create league menu (so I don't have to enter my name, league name, etc.). Another that would be nice is in the game play screen, locking the sim speed to your previous choice (I always go to "very fast"). Generally, IMO, sticky is always better. __________________ I do mind, the Dude minds. This will not stand, ya know, this aggression will not stand, man. - The Dude

11-23-2005, 05:29 PM	#222
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	I am goofing around with the league structures, and I notice you cannot delete teams or divisions. I am trying to create 11 single division conferences with between four and 11 schools in each conference. Where can you remove entire divisions and teams? __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

11-23-2005, 05:36 PM	#224
thealmighty Pro Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: heaven	Icy, in your team name pack,it should be TCU Horned Frogs, not Horn Frogs. ANd thanks so much for the effort you put into this. Greatly appreciated. __________________ Check out The Unofficial FOFC Movie Guide Here

11-23-2005, 03:16 PM	#202
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	NAIA kicks ass. Go Mayville State!

11-23-2005, 03:48 PM	#204
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	One other small one... It looks like return game stats are being calculated with yardage from inside the end zone being added to it. I believe in college return yardage is maxed at 100, unlike the NFL. See Vasher, Nate. Someone should correct me if I'm wrong.

11-23-2005, 03:53 PM	#205
sovereignstar Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2004	I think it'd be cool if we could see potential recruits' e-mail addresses. That way we could filter out the guys who have ridiculous ones.

11-23-2005, 04:09 PM	#207
Mountain Mascot Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Columbia, S.C.	I have also seen the nine point TDs problem. It happened to me twice in one game causing me to lose the game. I was winning the game 17-6. The opposition scores and decides to go for two. The game allows me to select a defense to defend against the two point conversion play. Then the kicker comes out for the extra point instead of running a two point play, kicks the ball and gets awarded 3points instead of one point. It also happened the exact same way at the end of the game when I was winning 23-15. Opponent scores gets the three point extra point and beats me 24-23. DOH!!!!!!!

11-23-2005, 04:31 PM	#208
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Sacks should be counted as rushing yards for qbs. It appears they are not tallied that way in the game.

11-23-2005, 04:34 PM	#210
jbmagic Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2004	i dont no how often arlie checks this forum, but if you posted bugs here, you should also post at grey dog forum too.

11-23-2005, 04:47 PM	#216
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	/Marv Albert's Voice And a FACIAL from digamma! /end Marv Albert's Voice

11-23-2005, 05:04 PM	#218
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	It seems like there are too many transfers, but I don't really know how common it is in real life.

11-23-2005, 05:35 PM	#223
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I absolutely hate the way academics works. IRL it is a big factor (especially with incoming freshmen) but losing between 3 and 5 different guys every 4 weeks is too much IMO. If it's not toned down for the full version I'm glad there is the option to turn it off

11-23-2005, 05:54 PM	#226
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	dola I've just started playing with the recruiting. It's very deep, but a bit non-intuitive in terms of negotiating. This is the first part of the game where I've wanted a manual. For example, players on my watch list ... I guess if you don't change the recruiting action, it stays the same for each week? The recruit player cards are a little messy - it's hard to find the information I need. For example, I don't see any way to find out WHICH schools have offered a scholly.

11-23-2005, 06:12 PM	#228
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	A few more nits/comments: 1. The poll logic seems off. I was #12 and played #16 Alabama at home. We both had the same record going into the game. They beat us by a touchdown. The next week in the polls, I'm #13 and they are #15. 2. On the polls screen, it makes more sense to me to note the team had a bye the week before, rather than noting the last team they played--but that is probably a preference issue. 3. There seemed to be a significant number of teams finishing their season in week #12. I understand scheduling is a bitch in these games, but just offering it up. 4. I'm also seeing parity similar to what John Galt did. 5. I'm seeing a lot of defensive holding penalties. I haven't slogged through the game logs to see if they're really disproportionate, but it feels like it's called quite frequently. 6. Could the injury status (or just that a player is injured) be noted on the depth chart screen, as a way to eliminate extra clicks of going back to the roster screen or opening the player card? 7. I have also now seen the "going for 3" bug.

11-23-2005, 06:21 PM	#229
digamma Torchbearer Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On Lake Harriet	dola... a few more... 8. Also on the poll screen, conference championship games should be listed as the "next" game. 9. I had two teams from the same conference meet in a bowl game (not the national championship game). 10. Is there a screen that lists all bowl games?

11-23-2005, 06:26 PM	#230
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	For recruiting, it would be nice to be able to sort by position group, as well as position. So for example, see all linebackers, see all offensive linemen, all cbs and safeties.

11-23-2005, 06:50 PM	#233
vex Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tulsa	I seriously need a white background with dark text, this is killing me. Last edited by vex : 11-23-2005 at 06:51 PM. Reason: typo

11-23-2005, 07:04 PM	#236
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Yeah...my dynasty is on hold for the rest of the day because of it. I was basically off all day today, and wanted to play all day, but my eyes couldn't take the strain. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

11-23-2005, 07:05 PM	#237
Galaril Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2004	Fist off, great game. One question about gameplans to anyone. Do you have to set up the game plans if you play the games out. I play out my teams games and call the plays or hit the suggest button. Does the AI use the games plans that are set up before the game to help pick a suggestion or is it based on game situation?

11-23-2005, 07:11 PM	#238
Airhog Captain Obvious Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Norman, Oklahoma	well no takers on the last comment I made. Anyways, can some other people check out their install log found in the main game directory, and let me know if at the bottom of the log they are got any of these errors? Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\vbajet32.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\stdole2.tlb Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ovsCombo2D.ocx Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\olepro32.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\oleaut32.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msxbde40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswstr10.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswdat10.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mstext40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrepl40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrecr40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrd3x40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrd2x40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msrclr40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mspbde40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msltus40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjter40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjint40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msjet40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msexcl40.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msexch40.dll Could not Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\expsrv.dll Self-Register: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.ocx __________________ Thread Killer extraordinaire Yay! its football season once again!

11-23-2005, 07:36 PM	#244
Ben E Lou Morgado's Favorite Forum Fascist Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Greensboro, NC	Yellow, standard...anything that is a light background with dark lettering ultimately works for me. __________________ The media don't understand the kinds of problems and pressures 54 million come wit'!

11-23-2005, 07:39 PM	#245
MJ4H Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hog Country	I'm actually kind of the opposite. I've always vastly preferred light text on a dark background. Seems easier on my eyes. __________________ My YouTube channel My Twitch channel My Sharona

11-23-2005, 07:49 PM	#247
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Yellow FTW

11-23-2005, 08:00 PM	#249
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	There's really going to HAVE to be a schedule set up for 3 independents. Temple will be in the MAC next year, and I would think most people will want to be able to play with 3 independents and Temple in the MAC.

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