NFL Week 13 - Page 5

sabotai · 12-02-2007, 06:24 PM

Don't kick it to Hester!!!!!

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 06:25 PM

Why not go for 2 there?

JeeberD · 12-02-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Up with teh Miners on the Raiders. They did a great job today. Higgins had some good special teams plays (non-returning though).

That's good to hear, especially since his name was nowhere to be seen in the box score...

Fargin' Giants. Roll over and hand the NFC East to us, won't you?!?

sabotai · 12-02-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Screw up the kickoff, boot it to Hester, and let him take it all the way.

Even as a Giants fan, I'll laugh my ass off if that actually happens.

molson · 12-02-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Why not go for 2 there?

How does 6 help you more than 5?

If you miss it, and are only up 4, and the Bears score a quick TD, now you're down 3, and need a field goal to tie. Just kicking the extra point ensured that if the Bears score a TD, you can win with a field goal, if there's still time.

sabotai · 12-02-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

How does 6 help you more than 5?

If you miss it, and are only up 4, and the Bears score a quick TD, now you're down 3, and need a field goal to tie. Just kicking the extra point ensured that if the Bears score a TD, you can win with a field goal, if there's still time.

Perhaps if there is some kind of mess up or a block on the PAT attempt from the Bears, it makes the score tied and you go into OT.

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 06:29 PM

Apparently it's Rex's goal to get his receivers killed

Jas_lov · 12-02-2007, 06:30 PM

They'll have a couple shots at the endzone.

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Perhaps if there is some kind of mess up or a block on the PAT attempt from the Bears, it makes the score tied and you go into OT.

exactly

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 06:31 PM

4th and 15 and they can't get a stop

sabotai · 12-02-2007, 06:31 PM

Have to pay attention if you are working behind the end zone at the end of a game!

Jas_lov · 12-02-2007, 06:31 PM

One last heave to the endzone.

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 06:32 PM

Ugliest win in recent memory but I'll take it.

JeeberD · 12-02-2007, 06:34 PM

Dangit. Ah well, we'll just have to earn the NFC East title next week against the Lions...

molson · 12-02-2007, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

Perhaps if there is some kind of mess up or a block on the PAT attempt from the Bears, it makes the score tied and you go into OT.

True, but of those two scenarios, the missed extra point is least likely.

If they went for two, missed, the Bears get a long TD pass, then the Giants tie with a field goal and lose in OT, everyone would be pissed.

Thomkal · 12-02-2007, 08:24 PM

First off I'd like to thank the refs for giving that win to my beloved Cards.

Second I'd like to strangle my beloved Cards. They lose last week to a team that has looked terrible all season...except when they play the Cards. Warner throws for nearly 500 yards and they still lose. This week their top receiver is out and they are playing one of the hottest teams in the NFL. They capitalize on early turnovers by the Browns, but Warner only throws for about 170 yards, and yet they still win (thanks to the refs). They drive me crazy! Big game against Seattle next week.

Third I'd like to thank the Chiefs for putting Coastal Carolina QB Tyler Thigpen in the game. I hope he gets to start next week.

Passacaglia · 12-02-2007, 08:58 PM

Eli sounded like he didn't care that they won, but it was more important that he played badly.

Coffee Warlord · 12-02-2007, 09:03 PM

Trib writer has officially dubbed Eli "Rex East".

Love it.

stevew · 12-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Jeez, hold onto the fuckin ball willie parker.

Rizon · 12-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Does Wilie Parker hold onto his paychecks like this, or does he get direct deposit?

tucker rocky · 12-02-2007, 10:05 PM

Looks as though Willie Parker has a case of the fumblelitis.

Lathum · 12-02-2007, 10:08 PM

The Steelers should be embarased by the state of their field

stevew · 12-02-2007, 10:15 PM

#94 on the bengals looks like a fucking fat ugly girl.

Rizon · 12-02-2007, 10:15 PM

The Bungles are back, and all is right in the world.

stevew · 12-02-2007, 10:16 PM

Madden is such a biased fuck face. Fuck the raiders.

stevew · 12-02-2007, 10:18 PM

dola,

He's still jealous the 70s Steelers were better at cheating than his team was.

Rizon · 12-02-2007, 10:28 PM

Marvin Lewis meet Hot Seat. Hot Seat, Marvin Lewis.

stevew · 12-02-2007, 10:28 PM

Bengals are who we thought they were.

OldGiants · 12-03-2007, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Apathetic Lurker

Joe Gibbs....lol

After the game, gibbs said he asked the ref if he could call a second timeout and implied the ref said he could. I imagine the conversation went something like:

gibbs: "Can I call a timeout?"
ref: "You can."
gibbs: "I want one right now."
ref: "You didn't say 'may I?'" [Throws flag]

No matter how you slice it, gibbs is a washed-up, sententious, sanctimonious old fool and taylor is just a dead gang banger.

RendeR · 12-03-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by OldGiants

After the game, gibbs said he asked the ref if he could call a second timeout and implied the ref said he could. I imagine the conversation went something like:

gibbs: "Can I call a timeout?"
ref: "You can."
gibbs: "I want one right now."
ref: "You didn't say 'may I?'" [Throws flag]

No matter how you slice it, gibbs is a washed-up, sententious, sanctimonious old fool and taylor is just a dead gang banger.

Wow, I've been around here for a long time and I think I've finaly found one of the single most ignorant, vile and completely classless comments ever posted.

Just becauswe you have some inbred hatred for the Redskins does not give you any leeway to make such pathetic, spiteful and assinine remarks.

Paint yourself up with a big red L for Loser.

MikeVic · 12-03-2007, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

The Steelers should be embarased by the state of their field

I watched parts of the game. I didn't see the field being bad?

Lathum · 12-03-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I watched parts of the game. I didn't see the field being bad?

looked pretty horrible to me.

Lathum · 12-03-2007, 10:18 AM

hmmmm, it appears someone is trolling for an argument.

MikeVic · 12-03-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

looked pretty horrible to me.

I didn't watch the whole game, but they were running on it. Points were scored. Couldn't have been that bad, could it?

gstelmack · 12-03-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Rizon

Marvin Lewis meet Hot Seat. Hot Seat, Marvin Lewis.

From some of what I saw, it looked more like "Carson Palmer, meet Hot Seat. Hot Seat, meet Carson Palmer". For the 20 minutes or so I watched early in the 4th quarter, he was missing receivers all over the place, including a couple of key miscommunications.

But I only got to watch a bit.

I did love how in the Tampa / New Orleans game, they managed to call holding on the Tampa Bay center, but had no problem with McCown getting levelled well after he threw on the same play (dude took two steps and unloaded).

Also, the NFL has GOT to change the offsetting penalties rule. If a guy has a 10 yard run, has facemask grabbed, and then one of his buddies comes over and flattens the grabber after the play, I know they offset, but since both are spot fouls, shouldn't they cancel but keep the play? Doesn't that really screwover whichever side made a great play (either offense on a good yardage play, or defense on a good stop)? We're not talking holding or something that affected the actual play, we're talking two penalties that occurred as the play was ending. This is one of those little NFL rule things that always seems wrong when it happens.

gstelmack · 12-03-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

First off I'd like to thank the refs for giving that win to my beloved Cards.

What happened? I missed it.

henry296 · 12-03-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

What happened? I missed it.

Hail Mary caught out of bounds but was could've been ruled a force out.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-03-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by OldGiants

After the game, gibbs said he asked the ref if he could call a second timeout and implied the ref said he could. I imagine the conversation went something like:

gibbs: "Can I call a timeout?"
ref: "You can."
gibbs: "I want one right now."
ref: "You didn't say 'may I?'" [Throws flag]

No matter how you slice it, gibbs is a washed-up, sententious, sanctimonious old fool and taylor is just a dead gang banger.

You know, you could've left out the part about Sean Taylor at the end, and your post would've been funny. Why would you ruin something funny that way? Why?

Lorena · 12-03-2007, 11:45 AM

oh boy

Fidatelo · 12-03-2007, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

I didn't watch the whole game, but they were running on it. Points were scored. Couldn't have been that bad, could it?

I heard Madden make the point that it's football, since when did it have to be played on some pristine field? I agree completely, the whole point of football is that it is brutal and messy, and the team that can outplay the other one, regardless of circumstance, is the better team that day. All this crying about the field is kind of sad.

rkmsuf · 12-03-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

You know, you could've left out the part about Sean Taylor at the end, and your post would've been funny. Why would you ruin something funny that way? Why?

I thought people were upset he called Gibbs "sententious".

Kang · 12-03-2007, 12:07 PM

OldGiants is just an idiot whose probably still on the rag because his Yankees suck despite the fact that they pay their team more than the rest of the league combined. *

* I realize this is not true, but it might as well be.

Celeval · 12-03-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296

Hail Mary caught out of bounds but was could've been ruled a force out.

Probably should have - and may have at any other point of the game. NFL.com for highlights of the game to see it. He almost got his feet down anyway, despite behind hit pretty hard while catching.

Pumpy Tudors · 12-03-2007, 12:15 PM

As far as the Cleveland-Arizona game goes, while I can see the argument that Winslow was forced out, I don't know if I'd be comfortable with them overturning the call on the field. I don't think it was obvious in the replay that he would have come down in bounds if he hadn't been hit. It was close, sure, but it wasn't obvious.

On top of that, I thought force-outs weren't even reviewable. Those are judgment calls on the field, aren't they? I'm exaggerating a bit here, but isn't that heading towards reviewing holding penalties or some other judgment call?

JonInMiddleGA · 12-03-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

since when did it have to be played on some pristine field?

I suspect it's somewhere between the seven digit salaries & the eight digit salaries.

What surprises me is (assuming the field is as bad as the level of complaints from fans seems to indicate) that the other owners aren't raising holy hell. That's a lot of investment running around on a sub-par field.

Mustang · 12-03-2007, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

On top of that, I thought force-outs weren't even reviewable. Those are judgment calls on the field, aren't they? I'm exaggerating a bit here, but isn't that heading towards reviewing holding penalties or some other judgment call?

You're right, they aren't reviewable. I say just do away with the force out. If I guy catches the ball and the defender makes a play that forces them out, I say good for them. Eliminates any sort of guesswork and I generally hate judgment calls.

rkmsuf · 12-03-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

You're right, they aren't reviewable. I say just do away with the force out. If I guy catches the ball and the defender makes a play that forces them out, I say good for them. Eliminates any sort of guesswork and I generally hate judgment calls.

Who came up with this force out rule anyway. Isn't the whole idea of defense TO force people out. Silly. It's like "I would have caught the ball had that guy not tipped it away from me."

Cringer · 12-03-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I suspect it's somewhere between the seven digit salaries & the eight digit salaries.

What surprises me is (assuming the field is as bad as the level of complaints from fans seems to indicate) that the other owners aren't raising holy hell. That's a lot of investment running around on a sub-par field.

I have heard several players, current and former who have played on it or been around it the last couple of weeks and they have all said something along the lines of it being the worst field they have ever been on. I'm not saying it is because I wouldn't know, but it sounds credible to me.

Honolulu_Blue · 12-03-2007, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors

As far as the Cleveland-Arizona game goes, while I can see the argument that Winslow was forced out, I don't know if I'd be comfortable with them overturning the call on the field. I don't think it was obvious in the replay that he would have come down in bounds if he hadn't been hit. It was close, sure, but it wasn't obvious.

On top of that, I thought force-outs weren't even reviewable. Those are judgment calls on the field, aren't they? I'm exaggerating a bit here, but isn't that heading towards reviewing holding penalties or some other judgment call?

It's not reviewable. I think what happened was the ref probably went to review the play. Someone informed him that a force out was not reviewable. He checked just to make sure Winslow didn't happen to get two feet in bounds anyway, came out of the booth, and then made the correct call.

It looked like a force out to me, but it was very close.

Lathum · 12-03-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I suspect it's somewhere between the seven digit salaries & the eight digit salaries.

What surprises me is (assuming the field is as bad as the level of complaints from fans seems to indicate) that the other owners aren't raising holy hell. That's a lot of investment running around on a sub-par field.

Exactly.

It's not 1960 anymore. I would be pretty pissed if one of my teams players got hurt because they were plaing on a crappy sub par playing surface.

I agree football is a messy game, etc... but I would rather have the talent on the field determine the outcome. Not the field itself.

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JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Dangit. Ah well, we'll just have to earn the NFC East title next week against the Lions... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

12-02-2007, 10:15 PM	#223
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	#94 on the bengals looks like a fucking fat ugly girl. Last edited by stevew : 12-02-2007 at 10:17 PM.

12-03-2007, 12:15 PM	#244
Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	As far as the Cleveland-Arizona game goes, while I can see the argument that Winslow was forced out, I don't know if I'd be comfortable with them overturning the call on the field. I don't think it was obvious in the replay that he would have come down in bounds if he hadn't been hit. It was close, sure, but it wasn't obvious. On top of that, I thought force-outs weren't even reviewable. Those are judgment calls on the field, aren't they? I'm exaggerating a bit here, but isn't that heading towards reviewing holding penalties or some other judgment call? __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

12-02-2007, 06:24 PM	#201
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Don't kick it to Hester!!!!!

12-02-2007, 06:25 PM	#202
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Why not go for 2 there?

12-02-2007, 06:29 PM	#207
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Apparently it's Rex's goal to get his receivers killed

12-02-2007, 06:30 PM	#208
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	They'll have a couple shots at the endzone.

12-02-2007, 06:31 PM	#210
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	4th and 15 and they can't get a stop

12-02-2007, 06:31 PM	#211
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Have to pay attention if you are working behind the end zone at the end of a game!

12-02-2007, 06:31 PM	#212
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	One last heave to the endzone.

12-02-2007, 06:32 PM	#213
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Ugliest win in recent memory but I'll take it.

12-02-2007, 08:24 PM	#216
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	First off I'd like to thank the refs for giving that win to my beloved Cards. Second I'd like to strangle my beloved Cards. They lose last week to a team that has looked terrible all season...except when they play the Cards. Warner throws for nearly 500 yards and they still lose. This week their top receiver is out and they are playing one of the hottest teams in the NFL. They capitalize on early turnovers by the Browns, but Warner only throws for about 170 yards, and yet they still win (thanks to the refs). They drive me crazy! Big game against Seattle next week. Third I'd like to thank the Chiefs for putting Coastal Carolina QB Tyler Thigpen in the game. I hope he gets to start next week.

12-02-2007, 08:58 PM	#217
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Eli sounded like he didn't care that they won, but it was more important that he played badly.

12-02-2007, 09:03 PM	#218
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	Trib writer has officially dubbed Eli "Rex East". Love it.

12-02-2007, 10:05 PM	#219
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Jeez, hold onto the fuckin ball willie parker.

12-02-2007, 10:05 PM	#221
tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Looks as though Willie Parker has a case of the fumblelitis.

12-02-2007, 10:08 PM	#222
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	The Steelers should be embarased by the state of their field

12-02-2007, 10:16 PM	#225
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Madden is such a biased fuck face. Fuck the raiders.

12-02-2007, 10:18 PM	#226
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	dola, He's still jealous the 70s Steelers were better at cheating than his team was.

12-02-2007, 10:28 PM	#228
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Bengals are who we thought they were.

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	hmmmm, it appears someone is trolling for an argument.

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Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	oh boy

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Kang n00b Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rigel IV	OldGiants is just an idiot whose probably still on the rag because his Yankees suck despite the fact that they pay their team more than the rest of the league combined. * * I realize this is not true, but it might as well be.

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