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I think it should be noted that, once again, Rose and Bernard have been off in the jungle unaccounted for months....strike that, if they're stuck in the same 'slice of time' as Sawyer and Jin, they've been off wandering in the jungle for over three years. They BEST be seen attacking with/as the 'hostiles', because that would make me happy.
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Does anyone remember seeing that scene where young Ben asked Richard Alpert to take him with the Others. It was the first one in last weeks "Previously seen on Lost", but I can't remember what episode it was from. Is it just me blanking?
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No...you are not blanking. They threw that in there and it was not in a previous episode. Either one of two things happened. They conveniently placed that there for story development later on or that was a deleted scene from a prior episode.
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It did happen earlier, back in the episode where Jacob was introduced. That episode was a Ben flashback that had a lot of the backstory on Dharma that is being explored this season.
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It was from a while ago, but it was definitely in a previous episode. It was the essential meeting for Ben to betray the Dharma Initiative. He hated his father and asked Richard if he could join the Others. That is what led Ben to help the Others gas the Dharma Initiative and the Others took over their camps.
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Argh....I knew it wasn't from this season, but from what hoopsguy posted, it looks like it was in Season 3, Episode 20. Okay, I am assuming this is the episode in which Ben killed his father.
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03-31-2009, 05:57 AM | #207 |
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That's the same scene where he saw his mother and he goes looking for her in the jungle.
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Good episode last night... I loved the conversation between Miles and Hurley - gotta love any Back to the Future reference
Add: Anyone know where Richard took Ben?
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My guess is it's The Temple. Looked like the building where smokey tore the French guy's arm off too.
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I like how they had Hurley ask some of the questions from the fans. The big one was how come Ben doesn't remember Sayid being the one who shot him when he was a kid?
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That was exactly my thought. That conversation was as if it had come off of an internet message board. |
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that was one of the best Lost episodes in a long time
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Miles has quickly become a favorite of mine. He is like mini Sawyer except he is wrong when he talks most of the time.
when Locke told Ben welcome to the Land of the Living are we supposed to infer everyone in the past is dead? Also the only somewhat hokey thing was explaining why Ben wouldn't remember being shot. Glad they tied it up but the whole thing about him not remembering and losing his innocene seemed out of place to me. |
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Since Ben was the one that killed him, I think it was just Locke's way of letting Ben know that he was alive again. (as opposed to Ben being dead and seeing Locke in some "afterlife" I didn't get the impression at all that it had any reference to the others in the past. |
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My question about Ben and Sayid is, is it necessarily true that Ben doesn't remember Sayid? I know Richard says that Ben won't remember any of this, but grown-up Ben is such a secretive character (and a pathological liar, IMO) that it is entirely possible that he does remember Sayid from his time as a child, and simply chooses not to reveal it.
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I think he remembers, but we don't know that he does. That memory is why he has Sayid kill all of those people, his way of getting some sort of revenge against Sayid. Maybe next week will clue us in some more since it looks like a heavy Ben episode.
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it was extremely forced. they could have done a MUCH better job with that.
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Very good episode. I loved the Miles/Hurley exchange -- I think it was definitely a shout out to the fans that are trying to figure out what is going on. Very well done.
Also thought the final scene with Locke waiting for Ben to wake up was very cool. I really liked how Locke showed a hint of a smile toward the end. |
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I thought it was the Black Rock, overgrown with weeds. I've always thought that ship was how Richard arrived.
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Huh, may have to watch that scene again because I thought it was Jacob's cabin.
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I'm really looking forward to finding out what happened to Faraday (and Charlotte). A few episodes, Jack asked about him and someone (I think Sawyer) said he "was" here.
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Yeah, it was Sawyer who said that. Also we know that previously Charlotte had said that she thought Faraday was the crazy man from her youth. So obviously he goes crazy trying to make sure she never comes back to the island and he probably gets kicked off of the island or something I guess. |
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I'm rather certain that was the temple.
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Lostpedia confirms that it was the temple.
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The Hurley/Miles exchange was classic. Loved how the writers threw that in there.
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Figured it was the temple.
So will Ben be offered up to the Smoke Monster and that is what changes him? (like the french people from earlier this season)? |
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I get the feeling that the "smoke monster" does not exist yet, and at this point the temple serves a different purpose.
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I haven't watched the scene again, but Temple is a good choice. The door way made me think of the dynamite scene at the Black Rock.
How will Ben's return be explained to his dad and the Dharma's? I think we will learn the 'whispering' is folks on the island in different eras, like Ben and Locke are now. In essence, the Losties were hearing themselves in the early seasons of the show.
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About Old Ben being judged and in the forest saying he can't control what's going to come out, I'm guessing he's referring to the Smoke Monster? Becuase this is being shown at the same time Young Ben is going into the Temple I will throw out there that I think whatever happens to Ben to heal him in the 70s will be what creates the Smoke Monster.
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It's been a common theory that the smoke monster is a tool of judgement. With Mr. Eko, when we first saw smokie there were images from his past in the smoke, then when smokie kills him his brother tells him he will be judged. When Juliet and Kate were approached by smokie there were a series of flashes and it has been theorized that they were being scanned for their past.
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Can someone remind me how Ben and Locke end up in the same room when Locke says "welcome to the land of the living?" I can't remember what happened. I thought Locke was dead? Is that a flashback? This show is too confusing sometimes.
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When the plane came back with Ben, Jack, Kate, etc (and Locke dead in a coffin).. most of the returnees were flashed to the past. Ben, Sun, the pilot and Locke were not flashed to the past. Locke did come back to life however somehow once he returned to the island. Ben was attacked by Sun and the pilot when they were heading to the boats to go to the larger island, and I assume found and put in their make-shift infirmary. That is where Locke found him and waited for him to wake up. |
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Thank you. I wonder why Ben, Sun, Frank and Locke were not flashed to the past. I guess the other three have no idea Locke came back to life.
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That was a very action-packed episode! I was surprised by a few things in there. I won't offer any spoilers for "just in case" purposes, but some events occurred a lot differently than I expected them to happen. I want to know exactly who that bounty hunter is now and what she knows. She will be an intriguing character for sure.
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I truly doubt Caesar is dead. Also, I think we can dispense with spoiler tags, the show aired last night.
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Locke is a pretty awesome character when he has some confidence and is assertive. Also, I thought Desmond beating the crap out of Ben was pretty awesome.
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Solid episode, and I concur that Locke can be a pretty cool character at times. The only thing that bugged me about this episode was the piss-poor job they did of making Ben look like a "young Ben" when he stole Alex. Seems like with the production values of the show they could hire a makeup person worth a damn, rather than just give Michael Emerson a haircut.
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The "young Ben" scene also opened up a pretty interesting new storyline, since it appeared that the kid with him was Ethan Rom (sp?). Ethan must have somehow survived Ben and the Others' wipeout of Dharma, so that is something to keep an eye out.
As mentioned, I'm also really looking forward to a Farraday episode to explain what happened to him. We can assume it had something to do with young Charlotte, but I hope they address it before the end of the season. |
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I haven't been keeping track....how many more episodes do we have this season?
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According to wikipedia, there will be a new episode next week and then there will be a break, followed by two more weeks to finish out this season. But, the finale will have back-to-back new episodes. So, essentially, there are three more weeks and four more hours left. And then, next season will be the series finale with 17 new episodes. Last edited by Swaggs : 04-10-2009 at 10:26 AM. |
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According to everything I've read, there IS a new episode next week ("Some Like It Hoth") and no new episode the week after that. Also, the episode after the week break ("The Variable") is said to be a doozy.
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