Yet another school shooting.

[CrimsonFox]

Incidently why do gun nuts wake up and say....I'm gonnna open fire on a bunch of people and then I'll live the rest of my life happier.

Instead of...I think I"ll die today.

[JPhillips]

Don't think the gun bill is going to pass.

Wow

A day after heavily booing US Sen John Cornyn on stage, the Republican Party of Texas just voted for this resolution rebuking him and the other Rs in US Senate working on the gun safety bill. pic.twitter.com/aedCHVeMd8

— Jeremy Wallace (@JeremySWallace) June 18, 2022

[PilotMan]

Show me in the Bible where it says guns are "God given Rights".

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Show me in the Bible where it says guns are "God given Rights".

Well Ezekial 23:20 talks about penis size.

[cuervo72]

Honestly, I never thought one would. Act like you are going to when the heat is on, then claim the other side is being unreasonable and back out when it's off. Absolutely no shock here.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well Ezekial 23:20 talks about penis size.

The Old Testament has all sorts of fun stuff. There's the story about how a bunch of kids are making fun of Elisha for being bald so he curses them in God's name and bears show up and maul the kids (2 Kings 2:23-25)

SI

[Atocep]

Police never tried to open door to Uvalde classroom

The doors to the two classrooms the shooter was holed up in were likely unlocked the entire time. The cops never tried to open them, spent 40 minutes waiting on keys, then went to other doors trying the keys to try to find a master key without ever trying to open the classrooms he was in. Not only that, but they had access to a device that would have been able to open the classroom doors without a key.

They encountered the shooter 2 minutes after he entered the school and made no attempt to enter the classrooms he went into for over an hour.

After reading that article, I don't think they killed kids. Instead they stood in the hallway outside of unlocked doors for over an hour waiting for someone else to come do something while kids and teachers were dying.

[RainMaker]

At what point are you just accomplices?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

At what point are you just accomplices?

They had a tool to easily breach the door yet still waited 40 minutes on a key and then went to test the keys on other doors. It's obvious they had no intention of entering that classroom. They were using the locked door as an excuse to hold back, which bought them 40 minutes as they waited on keys. Then they went testing keys on other doors looking for a master key?

It seems like what happened is the excuse they planned on using fell apart on video when they discovered the door was unlocked the entire 1+ hours they sat doing nothing. So children were being killed and laying in a classroom dying while the cops sat outside trying to look busy until someone else came to bail them out.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well Ezekial 23:20 talks about penis size.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[CrimsonFox]

I just learned what a Log Cabin Repuiblican is. *facepalm*

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

The Old Testament has all sorts of fun stuff. There's the story about how a bunch of kids are making fun of Elisha for being bald so he curses them in God's name and bears show up and maul the kids (2 Kings 2:23-25)

SI

That's why I am always amazed when you kids make fun of me.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I just learned what a Log Cabin Repuiblican is. *facepalm*

Yeah I'm actually surprised there are any Gay Republicans at all given their stance towards us.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well Ezekial 23:20 talks about penis size.

Solid.

Ezekiel 23:20




New International Version









²⁰ There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

[CrimsonFox]

Mass Shooting Sees Seven Gunned Down During Family Barbecue: Police

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Yeah I'm actually surprised there are any Gay Republicans at all given their stance towards us.

I really thought it had to do with how big their log was.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Mass Shooting Sees Seven Gunned Down During Family Barbecue: Police

I'm sorry...is this the right thread for this? I'm all confused since this isn't a school. Is there a diufferent mass shooting thread it should be in? Maybe a general mass shooting thread or even a family mass shooting thread and then a school shooting thread and then a business or place of work mass shooting thread? THen we could keep our mass shooting discussions straight.

[/SATIRE]

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

I really thought it had to do with how big their log was.

That's the secret club we don't tell anyone about

[NobodyHere]

I can't say I've thought of this angle before:

The next generation of school shooters grew up doing active-shooter drills — and know how to get around them, experts say

[RainMaker]

First real account of what happened according to video and not the cops lies.

Records show police in Uvalde were equipped to storm shooter | The Texas Tribune

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I can't say I've thought of this angle before:

The next generation of school shooters grew up doing active-shooter drills — and know how to get around them, experts say

It's one my son mentioned to me somewhere around his junior (?) year of HS.

His working plan was basically to do the opposite of what the official "escape plan" was. Something to the effect "If they're from the school -- and that's the most likely source of a shooter here -- then they know exactly where we've been told to go and I'm not walking into that ambush"

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

First real account of what happened according to video and not the cops lies.

Records show police in Uvalde were equipped to storm shooter | The Texas Tribune

Each trickle of news only gets worse. And it keeps it in the news.

July 4th is a Monday this year. If I were the Uvalde Police, I'd just release all the footage on the Friday evening before that weekend. Just let the long weekend eat it.

[BYU 14]

I am watching a little bit of the hearings in Texas this morning and the Police (rightfully so) are getting eviscerated. It is hard to imagine there being anyway they could have screwed this up worse, the utter cowardice and incompetence is despicable, and you guys know I support police as a rule, but man.

And their SWAT team, taking pictures in their bass ass poses, then literally going AWOL when the exact reason they were formed occurs. No words..

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I am watching a little bit of the hearings in Texas this morning and the Police (rightfully so) are getting eviscerated. It is hard to imagine there being anyway they could have screwed this up worse, the utter cowardice and incompetence is despicable, and you guys know I support police as a rule, but man.

And their SWAT team, taking pictures in their bass ass poses, then literally going AWOL when the exact reason they were formed occurs. No words..

That's fans of guns in a nutshell. They worship guns, pose with guns, jack off with their guns, act like a badass, but they are sissy cowards all.

[RainMaker]

OMFG. Slain Uvalde teacher Eva Mireles called her husband — a police officer on the scene — and told him that “she had been shot & was dying.”

When he tried to go help her, “he was detained & they took his gun away from him & escorted him off the scene.”https://t.co/3A0VDQWAjR

— Caroline Orr Bueno, Ph.D (@RVAwonk) June 22, 2022

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I am watching a little bit of the hearings in Texas this morning and the Police (rightfully so) are getting eviscerated. It is hard to imagine there being anyway they could have screwed this up worse, the utter cowardice and incompetence is despicable, and you guys know I support police as a rule, but man.

And their SWAT team, taking pictures in their bass ass poses, then literally going AWOL when the exact reason they were formed occurs. No words..

There's definitely a major screwup here. I'm willing to give it more time for the full story to come out vs the seemingly daily finger pointing, leaks and overall lack of cooperation in providing all the details. But the volume of (seemingly) incompetence is pretty overwhelming right now.

Can the FBI be called in to be the grown up in the room and have them conduct the official investigation?

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

There's definitely a major screwup here. I'm willing to give it more time for the full story to come out vs the seemingly daily finger pointing, leaks and overall lack of cooperation in providing all the details. But the volume of (seemingly) incompetence is pretty overwhelming right now.

Can the FBI be called in to be the grown up in the room and have them conduct the official investigation?

I don't see how the FBI does not get involved eventually. At this point it is easy to see that their inaction cost lives and there needs to be accountability. The lawsuit that comes out of this is going to be massive.

[GrantDawg]

My understanding is the DOJ is already apart of the investigation.

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[PilotMan]

You know, it never would have happened if there'd been a good guy with a gun to stop him. We know if dufus was still in charge that's what the official line would have been, after he very publicly would have tossed the entire Uvalde police force under the bus.

[RainMaker]

Can any of the good cops in Texas arrest these fucking criminals for obstructing justice?

[Edward64]

Good news on the gun bill. Could be better but a nice compromise.

I really don't see the big deal on having everyone getting a background check (gun shows, private sales, family transfers etc.). But I would want the background check to be all inclusive, even < 18 individual records.

[RainMaker]

Any of those good apples I hear about around to handle this?

The mother who rescued her two boys from the #Uvalde gunman says she’s being harassed by cops at her own home

Angeli Rose Gomez said she had to separate from her boys "just so my sons don't feel like they have to watch cops passing by, stopping” https://t.co/v25mLGzeaa pic.twitter.com/VHwwQUEYTq

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) June 26, 2022

[Edward64]

I'll be glad to share many stories of good apples/cops doing good things. But then I'll be accused of derailing the thread. Let me know if you really want me to and glad to do it.

[RainMaker]

See if you can reach out to them and have them stop the bad apples from harassing the woman who made the crime of trying to save her kids. Also if you can have them arrest these cops for obstruction it would be good too.

[Edward64]

Is that a yes? If you are in agreement, I'm sure the rest of the board will be okay with it because this is really your "defund the police" thread anyway.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Edward64

I'll be glad to share many stories of good apples/cops doing good things. But then I'll be accused of derailing the thread. Let me know if you really want me to and glad to do it.

"I know cops who do their job and don't abuse their power" reminds me of what a great philosopher once said: "What do you want, a cookie? You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherfucker!"

SI

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

"I know cops who do their job and don't abuse their power" reminds me of what a great philosopher once said: "What do you want, a cookie? You're not supposed to go to jail, you low-expectation-having motherfucker!"

SI

Just returning sarcasm in kind.

Fun quote. Googled on it. Wouldn't call Chris Rock a philosopher though.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Is that a yes? If you are in agreement, I'm sure the rest of the board will be okay with it because this is really your "defund the police" thread anyway.

Let's be clear, nobody with a fucking shred of common sense should be phrasing police reform in that manner.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Let's be clear, nobody with a fucking shred of common sense should be phrasing police reform in that manner.

I agree.

Have to do some google-fu later but I think he is really a closeted defund (or seriously defund) the police. If I'm wrong, my bad.

[RainMaker]

Yeah I think they should defend the Uvalde Police. They seem pretty terrible at their jobs and actively making the community worse.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Yeah I think they should defend the Uvalde Police. They seem pretty terrible at their jobs and actively making the community worse.

Biggest Freudian slip ever

[RainMaker]

My brother and his girlfriend is at the parade in Highland Park. Says they ran for like a mile. Multiple dead but it literally just happened an hour ago. Wtf

[RainMaker]

Everyone is being told to stay inside. Lot of confusion but doesn't sound like they have the shooter.

[BYU 14]

Sadly I was talking with my wife earlier and mentioned we could probably expect at least 2-3 of these on the holiday

[CrimsonFox]

Happy 4th of July Mass shooting

[kingfc22]

Who left the door open?

[Qwikshot]

Just how Republicans want it, the exercising of 2nd amendment rights and those who died were probably libs anyway.

[RainMaker]

My brother and others who were sheltering at a store eventually got escorted to their car to go home.

[GrantDawg]

Glad he got out ok. Scary stuff.

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[BYU 14]

Appears to be another under 21 male, SMH