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stevew · 07-06-2023, 06:30 PM

If you swap TVs your wife/gf/so will never know.

Ksyrup · 07-06-2023, 09:41 PM

Thanks to the fireworks for the past week, one of our dogs refuses to go out at night unless he's about to pee or shit himself, so we're up at all hours of the night to take him out. And that's WITH sedatives we gave him leading up to the weekend and Tuesday's fireworks. I hope this doesn't last too much longer, but he's the most neurotic dog I've ever owned, so this may be the new normal.

Ksyrup · 07-07-2023, 10:47 AM

I could swear we used to have a cool/funny videos thread but I can't find it, so I'm just going to post this here.

For his next trick, he's going to find his way out of a locked room with 3 twigs, a banana peel, a broken vuvuzela and a key.

Using the wax on an apple and a broken lighter to start a fire

Producers spray apples with a thin layer of wax to prevent a moisture loss. This wax is flammable, as the dust collected from the lighter

[�� Woodsbound Outdoors: https://t.co/0aLgnppeXN]pic.twitter.com/s1UzW34M48
— Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 7, 2023

CrimsonFox · 07-08-2023, 02:49 AM

hey you all, you should all go to this thread
2023+ FOFC Game Gift Thread (!) - Front Office Football Central

fozzie and the others feel like hoarders and genuinely want to give them to the community so go pick out something from the huge lists there.

NobodyHere · 07-08-2023, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevew

If you swap wife/gf/so your TVs will never know.

This is how I read this post. I think I'm getting dyslexic.

Ksyrup · 07-10-2023, 08:38 AM

Larry Nassar was stabbed multiple times in federal prison. The hierarchy of criminals does its job again.

Edward64 · 07-10-2023, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Larry Nassar was stabbed multiple times in federal prison. The hierarchy of criminals does its job again.

Child molesters don't deserve any sympathy.

RainMaker · 07-10-2023, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Larry Nassar was stabbed multiple times in federal prison. The hierarchy of criminals does its job again.

You hate to see it.

GrantDawg · 07-10-2023, 02:55 PM

I'm pretty compassionate to all people, and definitely more pacifist as I have gotten older. That said, what took them so long?

Ksyrup · 07-10-2023, 03:00 PM

via GIPHY

Honolulu_Blue · 07-10-2023, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I really want to get a new TV for my basement. When we moved into our place five years ago, I bought one of those TCL Roku TVs for the basement. It’s been great. No issues. But, it turns out that I pretty much watch everything I watch down there and now want a better TV - LG OLED - like we have upstairs, despite the fact that the Roku TV works fine.

A dilemma.

Update: The TV I had been eyeing was down an additional 10% today. It arrives Wednesday.

CrimsonFox · 07-10-2023, 05:21 PM

What is it about the whole "rapists getting killed by inmates" thing. There should really be a seinfeld routine about it. I mean this guy over here burnt a house down and killed 50 people so he'll just be the biggest inmate's bitch...but that guy. Shiv city

dubb93 · 07-10-2023, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

What is it about the whole "rapists getting killed by inmates" thing. There should really be a seinfeld routine about it. I mean this guy over here burnt a house down and killed 50 people so he'll just be the biggest inmate's bitch...but that guy. Shiv city

Depends on the crime but I'm guessing a guy that murdered 50 innocent people wouldn't have fun in jail.

I always figured that criminals consider crimes against other criminals and grown men fair game, but self-police pretty hard crimes against the innocent and defenseless. I'm not a career criminal though, so I could be off base here.

NobodyHere · 07-10-2023, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

You hate to see it.

I know this is the unpopular opinion. But I think that anyone that is glad to see him stabbed is a sadist. I don't care what his crime is.

This situation just proves how barbaric American prisons are.

Edward64 · 07-10-2023, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I know this is the unpopular opinion. But I think that anyone that is glad to see him stabbed is a sadist. I don't care what his crime is.

This situation just proves how barbaric American prisons are.

I don't wish ill on vast majority of people. But for serial, child molesters, no problem.

CrimsonFox · 07-10-2023, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I know this is the unpopular opinion. But I think that anyone that is glad to see him stabbed is a sadist. I don't care what his crime is.

This situation just proves how barbaric American prisons are.

yeah why aren't prisons nicer

air condition, pluish carpeting, taco tuesdays, karaoke....

NobodyHere · 07-10-2023, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

yeah why aren't prisons nicer

air condition, pluish carpeting, taco tuesdays, karaoke....

If they're great then you could always commit a crime an get into one.

Ksyrup · 07-11-2023, 08:47 AM

A couple of oddball "superfan" stories hit my phone at the same time yesterday. One, the "ChiefsAholic"dude who wears the wolf mask to games was apparently a bank robber. I don't remember hearing about this story at all back in December, but in March he cut off his ankle monitor and has been on the run. He was caught over the weekend in California. Apparently he liked masks more than we all thought?

The other is Miami Hurricanes superfan "Cutler Ridge Laz" who was well-known locally on call-in shows and on Twitter stabbed his neighbor to death last year over an argument about stray animals and took a plea deal for a 15 year sentence.

Kodos · 07-11-2023, 08:51 AM

Huh. Who knew superfans were nuts?

jcard · 07-11-2023, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I know this is the unpopular opinion. But I think that anyone that is glad to see him stabbed is a sadist. I don't care what his crime is.

This situation just proves how barbaric American prisons are.

As a fellow member of the apparent minority on this issue I appreciate and concur with your sentiments.

CrimsonFox · 07-11-2023, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcard

As a fellow member of the apparent minority on this issue I appreciate and concur with your sentiments.

Anyone else think Nobodyhere just created a new account just so he could agree with himself?

Ksyrup · 07-11-2023, 11:00 AM

I certainly do not condone it, but I'm not shedding a tear. I can't comment on how barbaric prison is, but I know for certain that prisoners are far less likely to be killed in a mass shooting than us "free" people, so they've got that going for them.

jcard · 07-11-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Anyone else think Nobodyhere just created a new account just so he could agree with himself?

I assume you are kidding, since you can see that I created my (only) account two years ago.

GrantDawg · 07-11-2023, 04:00 PM

My son passed his driver's test today. Does anyone want to buy half my liver to pay for his insurance?

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

Edward64 · 07-11-2023, 04:07 PM

When our son was on our insurance (and now, daughter), it wasn't too painful.

I think the car model factors into the cost quite a bit.

PilotMan · 07-11-2023, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

My son passed his driver's test today. Does anyone want to buy half my liver to pay for his insurance?

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

My last son finally bought his own insurance now at 19. It's expensive, but he needed to take on that responsibility. Now that all 3 are off, our insurance has dropped from what was $3200/6 back to $1400/6. It's really, REALLY nice to be on the backside of that. I feel for you.

GrantDawg · 07-11-2023, 04:46 PM

Ours is going to pretty much triple as well. He graduates college next year and should go off ours then. All depends on where he ends up I guess. He wants to take a shot at a big tech company job (Google, Microsoft, Apple).

Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

Ksyrup · 07-11-2023, 05:00 PM

My kids are still on mine. I'm paying through college - and for Caitlin, since she's doing her master's (and paying for it on her own) while working on a teacher's salary, I've agreed to pay some of her bills until she's fully done with school.

Edward64 · 07-11-2023, 05:27 PM

Kids were added to ours also, and the cars were under our name.

cartman · 07-11-2023, 11:34 PM

Going to see Oppenheimer opening weekend at one of the few 70mm IMAX theaters.

bob · 07-12-2023, 08:59 AM

Looks like I’m going to have an unexpected free day on my own in Cincinnati this weekend. Anyone have a suggestion on how to spend it?

Edward64 · 07-12-2023, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64

Okay, had some Modelo tonight. Glad I tried it but eh.

I remember enjoying some Anchor Steam years ago (think it was before craft beers took off). Sorry to see it go. May have to pickup a 6-pack for old times sake.

Quote:

The oldest craft brewery in the United States is shutting down after 127 years

Pour one out for Anchor Brewing: America’s oldest craft brewer is shutting down after 127 years in business.

flere-imsaho · 07-13-2023, 08:55 PM

Can't believe some techbro won't just buy the brand and start up a new brewery.

Maybe FOFC should pool our cash and do it!

thesloppy · 07-13-2023, 08:59 PM

Other side of same coin, can't believe InBev didn't buy them at some point in those 100+ years.

Edward64 · 07-13-2023, 09:49 PM

They're currently owned by Sapporo.

But yeah, you'd figure someone would want to buy them out.

Ksyrup · 07-14-2023, 08:06 AM

The worst thing about the Hollywood strike is having to hear Fran Drescher's voice again.

Poli · 07-14-2023, 09:15 AM

Anyone else watch a Netflix murder documentary and have to pause it to do some internet research to make sure a family member wasn't involved?

Just me?

Ksyrup · 07-14-2023, 12:57 PM

On a possibly related note?

Gilgo Beach serial killings: Suspect is in custody, AP source says | AP News

GrantDawg · 07-14-2023, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poli

Anyone else watch a Netflix murder documentary and have to pause it to do some internet research to make sure a family member wasn't involved?

Just me?

Not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. My great-grandfather was shot by the Dekalb county sheriff looking for my outlaw great uncle. They believe my great uncle ran to Texas were who knows what happened. The closest we ever got was a woman that called my grandmother from Mississippi claiming to be his daughter.

Poli · 07-14-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Not yet, but it wouldn't surprise me. My great-grandfather was shot by the Dekalb county sheriff looking for my outlaw great uncle. They believe my great uncle ran to Texas were who knows what happened. The closest we ever got was a woman that called my grandmother from Mississippi claiming to be his daughter.

That's pretty rad.

I ended up finding out some info about the uncles in my situation. My uncles were put in prison in the 80s for murder. Officials in OKC at the time were absolutely confident my uncles were also responsible for a murder there. A number of similarities and they could put them in the surrounding area during that time. Everyone thought they did it, but they claimed they were innocent. Never confessed. Never tried or convicted for it.

Turns out they got DNA tested through some evidence and were cleared...mind you some 10-15 years later.

Good news for the family, though. Ten years later, the man responsible was arrested on an unrelated charge. His DNA was collected and he popped for this cold case.

Poli · 07-14-2023, 03:20 PM

I didn't know they had finally found the actual killer until I paused that show and went looking on the internet, though.

flere-imsaho · 07-14-2023, 03:54 PM

My Dad's Dad's side is super murky, but we don't know a lot about it since his Dad died when he (my Dad's Dad) was 20.

GrantDawg · 07-14-2023, 04:17 PM

Wild, Poli. Crazy stuff.

cuervo72 · 07-15-2023, 06:44 PM

Man, the nightly news broadcasts* sure are going hard on the angle that the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strikes are going to be catastrophic for the economy and all the little people.

* oh look all of these are run by the companies in AMPTP

dubb93 · 07-16-2023, 09:31 PM

Am I the only one that JUST realized the NFL made the read option illegal? Granted maybe you could use Pistol Veer or a new formation and keep it relevant, but no forward handoffs is a massive change. Not really sure why it’s got no coverage?

JonInMiddleGA · 07-16-2023, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Am I the only one that JUST realized the NFL made the read option illegal? Granted maybe you could use Pistol Veer or a new formation and keep it relevant, but no forward handoffs is a massive change. Not really sure why it’s got no coverage?

I didn't know it.

Another (though less impact) rule I hadn't heard about was this change

To insert strength of victory as the second tiebreaker for awarding contracts, proposed by the Competition Committee
Rule change: This will allow teams for strength of victory to be the second tiebreaker for postseason seeding after the head-to-head tiebreaker. The second tiebreaker was previously conference record.

Edward64 · 07-16-2023, 11:48 PM

I don't do ribs but pleasantly surprised myself today.

Defrost, marinate, 2 hours @300 degrees in oven covered with foil, another 15 min without foil. It was decent, not fall off the bone tender but tender enough.

Will have to experiment more.

henry296 · 07-17-2023, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64

I don't do ribs but pleasantly surprised myself today.

Defrost, marinate, 2 hours @300 degrees in oven covered with foil, another 15 min without foil. It was decent, not fall off the bone tender but tender enough.

Will have to experiment more.

That is pretty similar to how we make them. After the foil we transfer to the grill with BBQ sauce; maybe 5 minutes per side

CrimsonFox · 07-17-2023, 09:43 AM

The FOFC Top 20!
Yes some people talk a lot

NobodyHere · 07-17-2023, 10:39 AM

I'm almost thinking there should be a FOFC 25th Anniversary Convention or something in 2025.

07-06-2023, 09:41 PM	#25452
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Thanks to the fireworks for the past week, one of our dogs refuses to go out at night unless he's about to pee or shit himself, so we're up at all hours of the night to take him out. And that's WITH sedatives we gave him leading up to the weekend and Tuesday's fireworks. I hope this doesn't last too much longer, but he's the most neurotic dog I've ever owned, so this may be the new normal. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-07-2023, 10:47 AM	#25453
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I could swear we used to have a cool/funny videos thread but I can't find it, so I'm just going to post this here. For his next trick, he's going to find his way out of a locked room with 3 twigs, a banana peel, a broken vuvuzela and a key. Using the wax on an apple and a broken lighter to start a fire Producers spray apples with a thin layer of wax to prevent a moisture loss. This wax is flammable, as the dust collected from the lighter [�� Woodsbound Outdoors: https://t.co/0aLgnppeXN]pic.twitter.com/s1UzW34M48 — Massimo (@Rainmaker1973) July 7, 2023 __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 07-07-2023 at 10:48 AM.

07-10-2023, 08:38 AM	#25456
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Larry Nassar was stabbed multiple times in federal prison. The hierarchy of criminals does its job again. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-10-2023, 03:00 PM	#25460
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	via GIPHY __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-11-2023, 08:47 AM	#25468
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	A couple of oddball "superfan" stories hit my phone at the same time yesterday. One, the "ChiefsAholic"dude who wears the wolf mask to games was apparently a bank robber. I don't remember hearing about this story at all back in December, but in March he cut off his ankle monitor and has been on the run. He was caught over the weekend in California. Apparently he liked masks more than we all thought? The other is Miami Hurricanes superfan "Cutler Ridge Laz" who was well-known locally on call-in shows and on Twitter stabbed his neighbor to death last year over an argument about stray animals and took a plea deal for a 15 year sentence. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 07-11-2023 at 08:49 AM.

07-06-2023, 06:30 PM	#25451
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	If you swap TVs your wife/gf/so will never know.

07-08-2023, 02:49 AM	#25454
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	hey you all, you should all go to this thread 2023+ FOFC Game Gift Thread (!) - Front Office Football Central fozzie and the others feel like hoarders and genuinely want to give them to the community so go pick out something from the huge lists there.

07-10-2023, 02:55 PM	#25459
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I'm pretty compassionate to all people, and definitely more pacifist as I have gotten older. That said, what took them so long?

07-10-2023, 05:21 PM	#25462
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	What is it about the whole "rapists getting killed by inmates" thing. There should really be a seinfeld routine about it. I mean this guy over here burnt a house down and killed 50 people so he'll just be the biggest inmate's bitch...but that guy. Shiv city

07-11-2023, 08:51 AM	#25469
Kodos Resident Alien Join Date: Jun 2001	Huh. Who knew superfans were nuts?

07-11-2023, 11:00 AM	#25472
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I certainly do not condone it, but I'm not shedding a tear. I can't comment on how barbaric prison is, but I know for certain that prisoners are far less likely to be killed in a mass shooting than us "free" people, so they've got that going for them. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-11-2023, 04:00 PM	#25474
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	My son passed his driver's test today. Does anyone want to buy half my liver to pay for his insurance? Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

07-11-2023, 04:07 PM	#25475
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	When our son was on our insurance (and now, daughter), it wasn't too painful. I think the car model factors into the cost quite a bit.

07-11-2023, 04:46 PM	#25477
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Ours is going to pretty much triple as well. He graduates college next year and should go off ours then. All depends on where he ends up I guess. He wants to take a shot at a big tech company job (Google, Microsoft, Apple). Sent from my SM-S916U using Tapatalk

07-11-2023, 05:00 PM	#25478
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	My kids are still on mine. I'm paying through college - and for Caitlin, since she's doing her master's (and paying for it on her own) while working on a teacher's salary, I've agreed to pay some of her bills until she's fully done with school. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-11-2023, 05:27 PM	#25479
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Kids were added to ours also, and the cars were under our name.

07-11-2023, 11:34 PM	#25480
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Going to see Oppenheimer opening weekend at one of the few 70mm IMAX theaters. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-12-2023, 08:59 AM	#25481
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	Looks like I’m going to have an unexpected free day on my own in Cincinnati this weekend. Anyone have a suggestion on how to spend it?

07-13-2023, 08:55 PM	#25483
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Can't believe some techbro won't just buy the brand and start up a new brewery. Maybe FOFC should pool our cash and do it!

07-13-2023, 08:59 PM	#25484
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	Other side of same coin, can't believe InBev didn't buy them at some point in those 100+ years. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

07-13-2023, 09:49 PM	#25485
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	They're currently owned by Sapporo. But yeah, you'd figure someone would want to buy them out.

07-14-2023, 08:06 AM	#25486
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The worst thing about the Hollywood strike is having to hear Fran Drescher's voice again. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-14-2023, 09:15 AM	#25487
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Anyone else watch a Netflix murder documentary and have to pause it to do some internet research to make sure a family member wasn't involved? Just me? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum. Last edited by Poli : 07-14-2023 at 09:15 AM.

07-14-2023, 12:57 PM	#25488
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	On a possibly related note? Gilgo Beach serial killings: Suspect is in custody, AP source says \| AP News __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

07-14-2023, 03:20 PM	#25491
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I didn't know they had finally found the actual killer until I paused that show and went looking on the internet, though. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-14-2023, 03:54 PM	#25492
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	My Dad's Dad's side is super murky, but we don't know a lot about it since his Dad died when he (my Dad's Dad) was 20.

07-14-2023, 04:17 PM	#25493
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Wild, Poli. Crazy stuff.

07-15-2023, 06:44 PM	#25494
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Man, the nightly news broadcasts* sure are going hard on the angle that the SAG-AFTRA and WGA strikes are going to be catastrophic for the economy and all the little people. * oh look all of these are run by the companies in AMPTP __________________ null

07-16-2023, 11:48 PM	#25497
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I don't do ribs but pleasantly surprised myself today. Defrost, marinate, 2 hours @300 degrees in oven covered with foil, another 15 min without foil. It was decent, not fall off the bone tender but tender enough. Will have to experiment more.

07-17-2023, 09:43 AM	#25499
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	The FOFC Top 20! Yes some people talk a lot Last edited by CrimsonFox : 07-17-2023 at 09:44 AM.

07-17-2023, 10:39 AM	#25500
NobodyHere Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013	I'm almost thinking there should be a FOFC 25th Anniversary Convention or something in 2025. __________________ "I am God's prophet, and I need an attorney"

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