The Trump Presidency – 2016

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

The WH is writing copy for The Lincoln Project again.

Trump adviser tells WaPo that when it comes to the pandemic, the president is “not really working this anymore. He doesn’t want to be distracted by it. He’s not calling and asking about data. He’s not worried about cases.” https://t.co/cMaaFvu1rY

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) July 18, 2020

Is the thought here that he is going to steal the election and this isn't a matter anymore, or has he accepted that he's not going to win and he's just trying to grab what he can to maximize his greed and corruption before getting pardoned by Pence or blatantly pardoning himself.

[Qwikshot]

As if I was surprised:

Biden warns of Russian election interference after receiving intelligence briefings | TheHill

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Is the thought here that he is going to steal the election and this isn't a matter anymore, or has he accepted that he's not going to win and he's just trying to grab what he can to maximize his greed and corruption before getting pardoned by Pence or blatantly pardoning himself.

I just think he doesn't care about issues unless they are about him. Pandemic stuff is work and he just wants to watch TV and tweet.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I just think he doesn't care about issues unless they are about him. Pandemic stuff is work and he just wants to watch TV and tweet.

Yep, it's not about him, and when it is, it's bad, and he can't say things that make it better, so it's better to ignore it and move on.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Edward64

The question now is ... within the US, should the vaccine should go to healthcare workers (makes sense) and then POC even before people with underlying conditions, older people etc. I think an argument could be made to vaccinate the younger generation first even.

(Therapeutics, treatment should go to the ones that need it most e.g. already in hospital, ventilators etc.)

Hopefully once a vaccine is found, the ramp up time will be 1-2 months before everyone in the US (or UK or China) gets it and the gap will be short.

I think it should go to people who need it the most first, regardless of their level of melanin. Underlying conditions, elderly, health workers, essential workers, etc. Where I probably disagree with most is that I think we need to be spreading it internationally, allies or otherwhise, far before we worry about all Americans getting it.

I also think getting it to everyone in the country takes a lot longer than a month or two. Even if we have enough of the vaccine, I don't see how we safely administer it to that many people that quickly; the logistics just aren't there.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm considering going down to ground zero at the justice center to see how things are popping off tonight. Or I might go to bed at 7.

I ate gummy bears until my stomach hurt instead. That's the real struggle.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I think it should go to people who need it the most first, regardless of their level of melanin. Underlying conditions, elderly, health workers, essential workers, etc. Where I probably disagree with most is that I think we need to be spreading it internationally, allies or otherwhise, far before we worry about all Americans getting it.

Regardless of Biden or Trump, I don't see us giving the vaccine internationally "first" before all Americans getting it (or at least not publicly). The best is to give the formula/process to everyone (but not the actual vaccine) so they can mass produce themselves. It would be political suicide otherwise.

I also think getting it to everyone in the country takes a lot longer than a month or two. Even if we have enough of the vaccine, I don't see how we safely administer it to that many people that quickly; the logistics just aren't there.

We now go to CVS, Walgreens etc. to get the flu shot. It wasn't that long ago when we had to go to doctor's office for that, I think around 2008+ when that changed. Nurses can give shots. I can picture a mass mobilization of healthcare professionals to get it done (well assuming its a Biden administration).

So IMO I worry more about manufacturing and distribution moreso than the actual giving of the shot.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I ate gummy bears until my stomach hurt instead. That's the real struggle.

Sitting in the bathroom tomorrow will be the real struggle

[Edward64]

I like what Bernie is proposing and assume he had strategized with Biden and they are coordinated.

Devil is in the details ... I've seen people wearing masks in their cars, that's a little too much for me. But I've seen people walked into restaurants or Krogers unmasked and think they are selfish.

We'll see if it gets to a vote. Interesting to see how votes fall in the legislation.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/opini...itt/index.html

That's why we are urgently calling for a simple, common-sense, practical and inexpensive way to protect Americans during the coronavirus pandemic: Masks for All. Our goal must be to make high-quality masks available on an equitable basis to every single person in this country at no cost. Next week, one of us will introduce legislation to do just that.

[Ksyrup]

On the issue of how to make sense of Trump's actions/inactions, I have an overwhelming sense of foreboding for November. He gambled on Covid and lost, big time. George Floyd/BLM gave him an opportunity to solidify his followers, not so much for election purposes but to run interference for what might come in November. He's been pounding the fraudulent election stuff for months, and mail-in/absentee ballots are only going to be more numerous across the country thanks to his mishandling of the virus. Now look what's happening in Portland - it's like a trial balloon for how to handle dissenters.

I hate conspiracy theories, but the truth is, Trump has been getting away with lying and corruption in broad daylight for 4 years and is now more emboldened than ever. I wouldn't put it past him to try it once more, on a grander scale, to hold off the inevitable. He may already be at the point of not wanting to waste time, money and energy on winning over Americans because he knows it's a lost cause and likely because he's satisfied with the 35-40% who will follow him off a cliff. That leaves one avenue to try to stay in power, if for no reason other than to hold off any potential criminal investigations.

Do I truly believe this could happen? Not really, but he's gotten away with a laundry list of things that would have seemed crazy 4 years ago. Trump is exactly the guy to try it and I can't make any sense of his endgame other than to think of the worst case scenario given where we are and how he's responding to it all.

[miked]

Originally Posted by Edward64

Regardless of Biden or Trump, I don't see us giving the vaccine internationally "first" before all Americans getting it (or at least not publicly). The best is to give the formula/process to everyone (but not the actual vaccine) so they can mass produce themselves. It would be political suicide otherwise.



We now go to CVS, Walgreens etc. to get the flu shot. It wasn't that long ago when we had to go to doctor's office for that, I think around 2008+ when that changed. Nurses can give shots. I can picture a mass mobilization of healthcare professionals to get it done (well assuming its a Biden administration).

So IMO I worry more about manufacturing and distribution moreso than the actual giving of the shot.

We will have plenty to give internationally. A recent poll suggested nearly 50% of republicans would not take the vaccine. Grassley will probably write a law that will allow insurance and drug companies to have the government subsidize production while they sell it for bank overseas.

[GrantDawg]

Sell it for bank overseas? Heck, I am hearing $3,000 a dose here

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[sterlingice]

Well, if you were fine thinking unmarked federal troops disappearing people in Portland was an isolated thing

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attor...eration-legend

As part of Operation Legend, Attorney General Barr directed federal agents from the FBI, U.S. Marshal Service, DEA and ATF to surge resources to Kansas City in the coming weeks to help state and local officials fight the surge of violent crime. They will be working alongside state and local law enforcement agencies. Department of Justice assets will include over 100 FBI agents, U.S. Marshals, DEA agents, and ATF agents.

SI

[sterlingice]

Ken Cuccinelli confirms to NPR that they are going to be rolling this out across the country

DHS Official On Reports Of Federal Officers Detaining Protesters In Portland, Ore. : NPR

But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we’re responsible for around the country

SI

[sterlingice]

So, yeah, the brownshirts are coming.

SI

[Lathum]

And if we have a question about somebody's identity - like the first example I noted to you - after questioning determine it isn't someone of interest, then they get released.

nothing scary about that...dangerously close to asking for their papers.

[JPhillips]

They are practically begging for one of these folks to get killed so they can use it in the campaign.

[albionmoonlight]

Philando Castile showed me that the NRA was lying to my face about caring about guns.

Portland (and coming soon to a city near you) shows me that it was lying to my face about caring about tyrrany.

So, bad on me. I was stupid and I was naive, and I believed y'all. I'm sure great belly laughs were had over idiots like me:

"Can you believe these guys?! I mean, they still think we aren't a thinly veiled front for a white supremacist police state? I mean, that's some wear-your-pants-on-your-head stupid right there."

So, I am ashamed to admit it. But I was that stupid. I believed that this was about reducing government regulations. About tax rates. About freedom and personal expression.

I mean, I get it now. And I still wonder (by wonder I mean "hope desperately") if y'all let the mask slip a little too early. That y'all needed to consolidate a bit more power before you unveiled your true nature.

But I guess we'll see.

[albionmoonlight]

dola:

This didn't have to be this way.

Remember when Bernie was leading the Dem nomination. And all of the people who called themselves "moderate" Democrats were like, "Oh. We aren't a party of extremists. Let's vote for the moderate guy instead." And then we got Biden? Remember that.

STOPPING. TRUMP. WAS. THAT. EASY. GOP voters just needed to LITERALLY NOT VOTE FOR HIM. I mean, the Dems were nominating Hillary for God's sake. ANYONE would have beat her AND THE GOP KNEW THAT. Look at their anti-Hillary ads at the time. Her badness wasn't exactly a secret.

So I am not as receptive to the "I'm a conservative, but I've never really fully supported Trump" thing. Because they did. And they did it because they wanted him to be President. And that's why he's here.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

On the issue of how to make sense of Trump's actions/inactions, I have an overwhelming sense of foreboding for November. He gambled on Covid and lost, big time. George Floyd/BLM gave him an opportunity to solidify his followers, not so much for election purposes but to run interference for what might come in November. He's been pounding the fraudulent election stuff for months, and mail-in/absentee ballots are only going to be more numerous across the country thanks to his mishandling of the virus. Now look what's happening in Portland - it's like a trial balloon for how to handle dissenters.

I hate conspiracy theories, but the truth is, Trump has been getting away with lying and corruption in broad daylight for 4 years and is now more emboldened than ever. I wouldn't put it past him to try it once more, on a grander scale, to hold off the inevitable. He may already be at the point of not wanting to waste time, money and energy on winning over Americans because he knows it's a lost cause and likely because he's satisfied with the 35-40% who will follow him off a cliff. That leaves one avenue to try to stay in power, if for no reason other than to hold off any potential criminal investigations.

Do I truly believe this could happen? Not really, but he's gotten away with a laundry list of things that would have seemed crazy 4 years ago. Trump is exactly the guy to try it and I can't make any sense of his endgame other than to think of the worst case scenario given where we are and how he's responding to it all.

We are in a failed state and 45% of the country turned over complete rationality and decency to him. They made an issue out of Obama's suit but ignore obvious corruption.

Trump will either cheat to win in November or refuse to give up power which will create a major crisis in our country. And the irony to me is if he would have handled the pandemic well, he would have won re-election rather easily.

Because a lot of people have no problem with his behavior or some of his actions. His base sees him as some sort of savior who is going to arrest all the pedophiles in Hollywood and the Deep State.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Noop

if he would have handled the pandemic well, he would have won re-election rather easily.

Like if he did NOTHING but say "AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND WE ARE GONNA ALL WEAR MASKS TO SUPPORT OUR HERO MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT" the situation would have not been this dire.

— Yooty Mom x 3 (@yooty) July 17, 2020

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by Edward64

It would be political suicide otherwise.

I thought you were talking what was the ethical choice. There's a big difference between 'what's ethical' and 'what's political viable'. Two questions with different answers on most issues including this one.

Originally Posted by Edward64

We now go to CVS, Walgreens etc. to get the flu shot. It wasn't that long ago when we had to go to doctor's office for that, I think around 2008+ when that changed.

Even under the large assumption that we have enough vaccine ready to go, how long has the flu shot been available? Any COVID vaccine is going to need to go through a process of making it more easily available to the masses with training, different guidelines being enacted/implemented and then revised, etc. I don't see how you go from 0-to-60, no vaccine yet to everyone can get one anytime anywhere. There's a process that's going to need to happen and there's only so much you can shorten it safely no matter how much money/resources are available.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Like if he did NOTHING but say "AMERICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND WE ARE GONNA ALL WEAR MASKS TO SUPPORT OUR HERO MILITARY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT" the situation would have not been this dire.
— Yooty Mom x 3 (@yooty) July 17, 2020

Like if Stephen Miller had been whispering sweet nothings like "you know, sir, if everyone wears masks, they can't see when our people are doing what we need them to do"

SI

[Brian Swartz]

On the whole 'Trump's gonna steal the election/refuse to leave/brownshirts are coming' etc. there's a lot of Chicken Little going on. I still think all signs point to Trump losing, and increasingly badly, no matter what he tries to do. Either a sizable portion of the board or myself is going to feel really stupid about what's being said right now when election day (yes, I still think we will have one ) comes around.

[Ksyrup]

The only way I think we avoid some sort of election challenge/crisis is if he loses badly. If it's close, the more absentee ballots are cast, the longer we wait for a decision and the easier it will be to drag the whole thing out.

I'll freely admit to being Chicken Little in what I posted above and I hate it, but it's only because I wouldn't put anything past Trump.

[Ksyrup]

I guess this should be posted here?

Georgia Massaged Virus Data to Reopen, Then Voided Mask Orders

But the same week Kemp ordered the reopening, his administration began presenting data in a way that made the state appear healthier than it was, said Thomas Tsai, a professor at Harvard University’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

The technique involved backdating new cases to the time of first symptoms or taking a test, instead of reporting them as they were reported to the state, like Georgia had previously done -- and like most states do.

The effect -- as states were being told to predicate their reopenings on two weeks of declining case numbers -- was to artificially make Georgia’s trends look better. The state began adding new cases to past dates on its trend line, making current numbers both too low and incomplete, Tsai said.

“What’s deceptive is that they shave off the most recent two weeks,” he said. “If you look at the most recent two weeks, it’s always very low. It always looks artificially like a downward trend.”

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

On the whole 'Trump's gonna steal the election/refuse to leave/brownshirts are coming' etc. there's a lot of Chicken Little going on. I still think all signs point to Trump losing, and increasingly badly, no matter what he tries to do. Either a sizable portion of the board or myself is going to feel really stupid about what's being said right now when election day (yes, I still think we will have one ) comes around.

Maybe the issue is that "Trump" refers to a variety of people.

There's the man himself. Who knows what he is thinking on any given day?

There's some really bad people around him who I think are at least open to the possibility of a permanent police state with them in charge of it. And some of them are trying to make it happen.

There's a lot of folks in the fold who see the ship sinking and are just trying to steal/grab as much as they can before they jump into the lifeboats.

There are people who want him to lose and to fuck things up as much as possible on the way out so that they can start blaming Biden for everything starting in January.

And there's people who want to have a political career after Trump who are keeping their options open and waking up every morning and checking to see what way the wind is blowing.

That second group are the scariest ones. And I don't know if we know just how much juice they have.

[AlexB]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

The only way I think we avoid some sort of election challenge/crisis is if he loses badly. If it's close, the more absentee ballots are cast, the longer we wait for a decision and the easier it will be to drag the whole thing out.

I'll freely admit to being Chicken Little in what I posted above and I hate it, but it's only because I wouldn't put anything past Trump.

Coincidentally I was coming to post a link to an article that says exactly this.

Trump will cling to power. To get him out, Biden will have to win big | Opinion | The Guardian

[Atocep]

I'm not sure there's anything I want to watch less than the HBO documentary on Matt Gaetz draining the swamp.

[ISiddiqui]

I am not surprised at all. Kemp wanted to open at all costs.

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[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

On the whole 'Trump's gonna steal the election/refuse to leave/brownshirts are coming' etc. there's a lot of Chicken Little going on. I still think all signs point to Trump losing, and increasingly badly, no matter what he tries to do. Either a sizable portion of the board or myself is going to feel really stupid about what's being said right now when election day (yes, I still think we will have one ) comes around.

Look, I've been posting on this board damn near (checks again) 20 years. God, has it been that long? And I'm sure there are some bad predictions here. I hated President Bush but I'm pretty sure I never felt he was going to refuse to leave the White House.

And if, when Corona is all over, we want to all have a beer and laugh about some of my bad predictions (I bet my 2004 Royals ones are pretty awesome) - that'd be awesome! But a lot of us genuinely fear for the future - it's not just histrionics to get attention.

I think it's a lot of "hope for the best, fear for the worst". For many of us, so many unthinkable things have happened in the last 4 years that things we had thought of as beyond that pale previously are possible.

• Child separation and internment camps at our borders? Check!
• Dozens, YES, DOZENS, of documented instances of police shooting at identified free press as they were covering protests. Check!
• A Senate that gave a free pass to foreign interference in elections and supporters who cheered this. Bonus points as the country involved was the sworn mortal enemy of the previous patron saint of said supporters. Check!
• A President siding with a white supremacist rally where one of them killed a person. And, yes, saying "both sides" is telling the white supremacists you support them - they got that message, we got that message, we all got that message. Check!
• A pandemic where our President was using federal troops to seize PPE and give it out as political favors? Check!
• And now, since the military wouldn't do it and military leadership united to tell the President to go pound sand, he's using other federal troops as a paramilitary force to "police" the cities. Check!

This isn't the run of the mill "haha - did the President just say to drink bleach?" or "what a dick move by McConnell on Supreme Court justices" or looting the treasury for his own enrichment. The right has their own grievances like that - Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Solyndra, a private email server, and even a tan suit or flag pin.

You'll have to forgive me if I think those bulleted hings above look more like the actions of someone marching down the road to Nazi town.

SI

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

On the whole 'Trump's gonna steal the election/refuse to leave/brownshirts are coming' etc. there's a lot of Chicken Little going on. I still think all signs point to Trump losing, and increasingly badly, no matter what he tries to do. Either a sizable portion of the board or myself is going to feel really stupid about what's being said right now when election day (yes, I still think we will have one ) comes around.

He knows he is going to lose badly, that is why he's going to steal the election.

It ain't chicken little.

He's still preventing release of his tax records to NY even though Supreme Court ruled.

He's still getting support from China and Russia to destabilize the election process.

He rails against mail ballots because it's corrupt.

He knows that if he loses the election he will be facing criminal charges.

If the senate is lost, he'll resign and get Pence to pardon him because he'll be impeached.

They are suppressing votes and they are now dispensing a secret police.

Wake the fuck up.

[Drake]

...so if you resist being detained by federal agents who don't identify themselves as law enforcement, I assume that means that even if you hadn't originally done anything to warrant detainment that they can now legitimately charge you with resisting...something? Not arrest, because the DHS has been clear that the people they're detaining haven't been arrested.

Seems kind of like a circular argument.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

On the whole 'Trump's gonna steal the election/refuse to leave/brownshirts are coming' etc. there's a lot of Chicken Little going on. I still think all signs point to Trump losing, and increasingly badly, no matter what he tries to do. Either a sizable portion of the board or myself is going to feel really stupid about what's being said right now when election day (yes, I still think we will have one ) comes around.

I don't think there will be brownshirts, police state etc.

But if Trump loses by a small margin, I do think there will be a crisis that Trump will somehow create (e.g. lawsuits on irregularities, refusing to transition, no show on inaugural day etc.). Take it to the bank, it's in his nature to create one(s). But it'll eventually come to naught and we'll move on.

I'm not as sure as you on the "bad loss". The race will tighten in Oct. Plenty of time for Biden/Hunter scandals, Dems to mis-step, overplay a hand, pick a wrong VP, strong positive vaccine/therapeutic news, market records, significant reduction in unemployment rate etc.

[Drake]

Also, the fact that all the "masks are tyranny" guys I know are defending disappearing citizens as a tactic because it's "safer for law enforcement"...suggests to me that their "resisting tyranny" motif is all smoke and mirrors.

[sterlingice]

I will say that if Biden wins and has a friendly House/Senate, the Dems have a blueprint of a lot of stuff that needs to be fixed ASAP.

Never mind that there's still going to be a pandemic and the shambles of a nightmare economy. But let's get to work on these pair of things.

1) Fix the voting mess in this country. Federal Voting Rights Act of 2021: move Election Day to a weekend or have it declared a national holiday. Make mandatory free Voter ID cards mandatory and outline exactly what you need and make it easy to get one so there can't be squirrelly, stupid state laws to poll tax people. Ex-felons can vote if they've done their time. Using debts as poll taxes need to be outlawed, too. Either do non-partisan redistricting committees or algorithm-drawn redistricting. No more of this state trifecta horrible map crap. Yeah, some of this is going to be struck down, but actually, you know, try to fix it so we're not in this stupid place again in the near future.

2) Criminal justice reform. Yes, it's complicated, but let's at least try to, you know, fix some of this crap. Get police reform going - the Dems already have a bill with a lot of stuff to try. Decriminalize marijuana in law- not just statue or executive action or stuff that can change from administration to administration. And release everyone who had a non-dealer conviction for that in the past. Outlaw private prisons - if the state wants to house people, they need to do it on their own dime. Or, you know, try to fix some of the societal problems that are leading to this. All these little armies of people that we're slushing around from DPS to ICE to Customs - those need to be shrunk and legally codified what they can do. Make it an easy court case to get an injunction for this stupid stuff we're seeing. They've drawn up the blueprint for what will happen the next time there's someone who totalitarian tendencies in the White House - might want to make it harder for them the next time out.

SI

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Drake

...so if you resist being detained by federal agents who don't identify themselves as law enforcement, I assume that means that even if you hadn't originally done anything to warrant detainment that they can now legitimately charge you with resisting...something? Not arrest, because the DHS has been clear that the people they're detaining haven't been arrested.

Seems kind of like a circular argument.

This is 100% how Guiliani used the police in NYC in the 90's. Grab people off the street, take them downtown, see if they have a record, if not, find something else to pin on them, like loitering. Offer a plea bargain, if they don't take it, force them by delaying the trial 4,5,6,7 times whatever it takes.

Ain't nobody got time for that shit. That's how you get a criminal record. How are you supposed to keep coming back over and over again, just to get fucked even harder. They system is fully stacked in favor of law enforcement here. It's a sham.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

If the senate is lost, he'll resign and get Pence to pardon him because he'll be impeached.

I would fully support extra judicial matters in this instance and I really hate that I said that, because it's not who I am.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by QwikShot

Wake the fuck up.

Every single time voters have had a chance since they put him in office in 2016, they have voted strongly against Trump. Almost all of those were when his poll numbers were much higher than they are now. He can try to steal it all he wants, it won't be nearly enough to keep him around.

[wustin]

I just hope Biden's campaign isn't ran horribly like Clinton's was leading up to November.

[thesloppy]

'Impossibly stupid': White House skewered for strange stunt

“We made it so dishwashers now have a lot more water, and in many places, in most places of the country, water is not a problem ... it's called rain,” he said.

“And old fashioned incandescent lightbulbs, I brought them back ... They’re better and much cheaper.”

The president claimed he will be announcing “many exciting things” over the coming two months. “Things that nobody has even contemplated, thought about, thought possible ... with levels of detail and levels of thought that a lot of people believed very strongly we didn't have in this country.”

[Ksyrup]

Kinda funny/fitting that Winn Dixie won't require masks.

[PilotMan]

I'd like to see him 'wind back' aviation and space regulations. I really feel like they have hindered progress...and profits.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Drake

suggests to me that their "resisting tyranny" motif is all smoke and mirrors.

You are more charitable than I am.

They are lying to us. It's not smoke and mirrors. It's a lie.

I don't wish ill will on these idiots. They are Americans, and revenge is a very empty pursuit that ends up hurting us as much as them.

I just want to structure the government so they are incapable of holding power until after my grandchildren pass from the Earth.

[JPhillips]

Keep in mind that it will be at least a week after election day before we have a clear winner.

[NobodyHere]

Did Trump actually do something...civil?

Trump orders federal flags to fly half-staff to honor John Lewis

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

'Impossibly stupid': White House skewered for strange stunt

“We made it so dishwashers now have a lot more water, and in many places, in most places of the country, water is not a problem ... it's called rain,” he said.

“And old fashioned incandescent lightbulbs, I brought them back ... They’re better and much cheaper.”

The president claimed he will be announcing “many exciting things” over the coming two months. “Things that nobody has even contemplated, thought about, thought possible ... with levels of detail and levels of thought that a lot of people believed very strongly we didn't have in this country.”

We live in a Clown Kingdom folks

[JPhillips]

Rubio posted a picture of himself and John Lewis, no, I'm sorry, that was a picture of Rubio and Elijah Cummings. Oops.

[JPhillips]

Cartoon villains aren't this evil.

Trump administration pushing to block new money for testing, tracing, and CDC in upcoming coronavirus relief bill - The Washington Post https://t.co/SK2Vq7SgIP

— Jacob Heilbrunn (@JacobHeilbrunn) July 18, 2020

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Did Trump actually do something...civil?

Trump orders federal flags to fly half-staff to honor John Lewis

It's really a shame when we have to point out no brainer gestures of respect regardless of who the president or the deceased is as something good that Trump did. This to me is as routine as checking my mailbox every day.