Werewolf LXX Pleasure Cruise - (GAME OVER)

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Lathum

does Ollie have the sword and can she kill someone with it?

If so I say she offs Pass today

She says she has an item that can do a lot of damage and/or kill someone

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I don't know if I'd quite go so far as to say it's a win-win. I think Clap is more likely a wolf than Pass, which ain't sayin' much, but I think the discrepancy in odds is enough that it isn't worth risking it.

I'd rather Olie's sword sort that out for us and we save your possible power for a non-forced close vote if needed.

BLAM - me and Anxiety's sword was stolen by the underground. If you know that Olie ended up with it, that is TELLING.

Olie never named her item...

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I passed the diary to TAZ, I figured that since he was the shakespearean guy he was like a spy or somethign, so he must be fgood.... but he really ahsnt added anythign anywhere.... and its just as posible that hes been turned.

If he's a wolf and you're a passenger, why isn't he voting for you though? I mean he cast his vote early, so it's not like he'd realistically get called out for piling on.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by mccollins

BLAM - me and Anxiety's sword was stolen by the underground. If you know that Olie ended up with it, that is TELLING.

Olie never named her item...

mis-speak by me, go ahead and read into that if you want, but I'm posting like a madman and didn't check facts. I actually posted her correct description earlier though, if that helps.

But if you want to run with that, be my guest, I"m no wolf. No nothing actually. I'm essentially a big giant zero in this game since the early action.

[claphamsa]

i think he said he had to go to work or somethign

[mccollins]

What was in the diary? Were any notes ever successfully passed?

[claphamsa]

When did mccoolins have anythign to do with the sword?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by mccollins

What was in the diary? Were any notes ever successfully passed?

nothign... and no I was tryign to think of ways to use it, and then almsot died.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

convienient McCollins isn't on that list despite his antics today

What antics? Preferring to vote Pass rather than clap?

I can see him as being a perfect conversion target and that's the only suspicion I have on him. He would be in a Pentagon of Paranoia though.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

When did mccoolins have anythign to do with the sword?

He passed half of it to Anxiety, IIRC

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

But if you want to run with that, be my guest, I"m no wolf. No nothing actually. I'm essentially a big giant zero in this game since the early action.

Same here - my highlight have been passing the sword hilt to Anxiety and getting stung in the foot.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

He passed half of it to Anxiety, IIRC

oh ok

[path12]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I think he actually sent 0 wolves or 1 wolf (to start) against the rest. But I also think the convertability odds are much higher this game. I'd bet that each night they have a chance at a forced conversion and/or an asked conversion (ala Anxiety) depending on the 0 or 1 initial wolves. If you look, the village wasn't allowed to win until after Day 4 (or on Day 4, I forget which), so the wolves definitely *started* this game shorthanded.

My money is on 11:4 right now.

I'd say 10:5 but I think these discussions are usually worthless before any wolves are found.

[oliegirl]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Since im toast. ill fill in some info.... the item I purchased was a diary, i could use it to pass notes..... Im begining to think the person I passed it to may be a wolf......

Who did you pass it to?

[claphamsa]

alos, we were talking about when things got passed. I passed him the iary when we were gettign off the boat. and he might have noticed me passing it to him, not sure.

[claphamsa]

Im tryign to think of any more info I can give out to help

If you have questions ask

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

She says she has an item that can do a lot of damage and/or kill someone

when did she say this and why shouldn't she use it on Pass?

[claphamsa]

I agree. just shoot pass and be done with it!

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

VOTE CLAP

Just a reminder, I still have my object that NFG and I assembled. Without coming out and saying what it is, I will give the following information:

*It's a one use item
*From my very limited knowledge of the item, it would inflict a lot of damage and/or kill someone whether they are good or bad
*The fact that nfg had the other piece of this item makes me believe that at the time he had it and passed it to me, he was good.

If anyone would like to make suggestions for who/when to use this item, let me know. I am open to ideas, but am also open to just hanging onto it longer to see what happens.

It was here Lathum

[oliegirl]

Dola, I'm not sure where you guys all got the idea that I had the ability to "kill" anyone...I tried to make it clear that I don't know if it's a lethal weapon or not...I'm sure it would do harm, but I have no way of knowing how much harm. As far as I know, me using this on someone, wolf or not, does not guarantee their death.

[path12]

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- in case I turn up dead at some point look at Path, he is playing his textbook wolf game.

And anyone who has played with me knows I always play a little off and my behavior always seems wolfish.

Didn't you poison me? I'd say I'm more likely to turn up dead than you are.

You are so wolf it's not funny. I feel like Heinz in the seer game.

[jeheinz72]

FTR, I have no problem with her using it on Pass, not one bit. Especially if we get that in addition to a lynch of clap today. I'd say the odds that both of those two are passengers is pretty damn low.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by oliegirl

Dola, I'm not sure where you guys all got the idea that I had the ability to "kill" anyone...I tried to make it clear that I don't know if it's a lethal weapon or not...I'm sure it would do harm, but I have no way of knowing how much harm. As far as I know, me using this on someone, wolf or not, does not guarantee their death.

I understand that, didn't mean to imply otherwise.

But kill or no kill, if it harms someone, I'd say after clap (but not knowing his guilt/innocence) the best target is Pass.

[path12]

I'll go ahead and risk the heat by joining the bandwagon. It's not like I've been cautious yet this game.

UNVOTE PASS
VOTE CLAPHAMSA

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Lathum

when did she say this and why shouldn't she use it on Pass?

Lathum, here it is:

Originally Posted by oliegirl

VOTE CLAP

Just a reminder, I still have my object that NFG and I assembled. Without coming out and saying what it is, I will give the following information:

*It's a one use item
*From my very limited knowledge of the item, it would inflict a lot of damage and/or kill someone whether they are good or bad
*The fact that nfg had the other piece of this item makes me believe that at the time he had it and passed it to me, he was good.

If anyone would like to make suggestions for who/when to use this item, let me know. I am open to ideas, but am also open to just hanging onto it longer to see what happens.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by path12

Didn't you poison me? I'd say I'm more likely to turn up dead than you are.

You are so wolf it's not funny. I feel like Heinz in the seer game.

I'd agree that one of you is not a passenger. Can't say which yet, but thankfully, that's not today's problem.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by path12

Didn't you poison me? I'd say I'm more likely to turn up dead than you are.

You are so wolf it's not funny. I feel like Heinz in the seer game.

if I was a wolf would i come right out and say I was gonna poinon you then actually do it?

[The Jackal]

Clap - it just said "yesterday" and I assumed that with it being the middle of the night, it referred to the most recent "day action phase", but I don't recall you being on the ship the day before either, so does it really matter?

[claphamsa]

yes?

[Lathum]

if you are all gonna lynch me please wait until thursday. k. thx.

[claphamsa]

I was on the beach, I was shopping, I was on the boat, I went flying, and I played golf. in that order....

We can hang out in the iI got killed ealry threat after I come back inoocent and you get lynched!

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Lathum

if you are all gonna lynch me please wait until thursday. k. thx.

why thursday?

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Lathum

if I was a wolf would i come right out and say I was gonna poinon you then actually do it?

Yes? To gain trust?

[The Jackal]

Just to clear that up, where did clap say he went the day before golfing?

[claphamsa]

Correction, Turn 4 I went flying, Trun 5 I was on the boat, and Turn 6 I went golfin.f

[The Jackal]

Okay, thank you clap. It said you didn't go anywhere, so whether it was referring to the most recent day or the one before it, it says you are lying.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Yes? To gain trust?

how exactly would poisining someone gain me trust?

[The Jackal]

You were on the boat turn 5, why?

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

I was on the beach, I was shopping, I was on the boat, I went flying, and I played golf. in that order....

We can hang out in the iI got killed ealry threat after I come back inoocent and you get lynched!

Here's what I have written down on my notes. I was too busy over the weekend so I still haven't caught those up.

Day 1: Got drunk on the beach
Day 2: Snorkeling with Jackal and Passacaglia
Day 3: Shopping @ Pawn Shop, got $25 of "crap" (Diary?)
Day 4: Flightseeing (easy to lie with that one)
Day 5: I don't have written down
Day 6: Golf by himself (on Day 5 all the golfers saw each other).

[claphamsa]

The only reason no one saw me golfing is cuz there was no one else doing it.!


on day 5 Iw as too busy not gettign lynched to send in an action.

[mccollins]

Originally Posted by Lathum

how exactly would poisining someone gain me trust?

That you're able to do what you say you can do?

You've positioned yourself as the villager with crew powers; the contention is that the captain wouldn't know if you were a part of the underground so you could actually be a wolf with crew powers.

[The Jackal]

Well if he said he was on the boat in the thread then its possible the list was referring to day 5 and that he isn't lying. I'd look for it but I'm on my phone...

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Catching up, I fully agree with Qwik that we need to be united today. No messing around. There are 7 people (all passengers!!) gone now and only 15 remain. We'll follow the logical progression from the outcome of the vote today.

Unvote Jackal
Vote Claphamsa

Originally Posted by mccollins

Heinz's crazy finger pointing threw me off; I actually need to
Unvote Passacaglia
instead of Jackal.

If you intended to revote for Claphamsa, please do me a favor and make sure to revote again just to make it official and not an interpretation decision on my part!

[The Jackal]

Well, crap, I do remember you saying that. Did anything bad happen on the boat on day 5? If not, I can't think of a reason to keep this vote on clap, I don't want two villagers getting lynched in a row for confusion in a PM.

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Ok guys, I have a night choice tonight.

That chick I'm with is the event coordinator for the cruiselines - is there anyone who we think may have lied about their excursion yesterday? I can check on the whereabouts of one person.

I'll take any suggestions.

Here is Jackal's initial note about it, posted during after the vote deadline (but before the decision deadline) yesterday.

Now re-reading this, it does enter in some doubt.

[The Jackal]

I'm thinking everyone better re-vote for Pass, I apologize for leading us on a run because of a misinterpretation issue.

That is unless people feel that he did something bad on day 5 on the boat and was telling the truth about missing sending in an action

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

First game or not, im pretty convinced that mr collins, isa wolf. a n00b, not very good wlf, but one none he less. so ... yeah , i think hes bad. Jackyl seems kinda bad as well

Looking back at clap's old posts (to verify he did say he was on the boat, which he did do).

This post struck me.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by mccollins

That you're able to do what you say you can do?

You've positioned yourself as the villager with crew powers; the contention is that the captain wouldn't know if you were a part of the underground so you could actually be a wolf with crew powers.

but if I was a wolf how does this help me any?

Once path comes back sick the only way I gain any benefit is if he is a wolf

[claphamsa]

why

[path12]

Originally Posted by mccollins

Yes? To gain trust?

That's only valid if I'm a wolf.