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Old 04-15-2008, 12:48 PM   #2601
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Looking back at clap's old posts (to verify he did say he was on the boat, which he did do).

This post struck me.
why
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:48 PM   #2602
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Uh maybe we can look at how some people responded to the clap run to try and identify wolves but I'm thinking for now I don't feel confident lynching him on the info I got.

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Old 04-15-2008, 12:49 PM   #2603
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If you intended to revote for Claphamsa, please do me a favor and make sure to revote again just to make it official and not an interpretation decision on my part!

Following orders - sorry that was confusing...
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:49 PM   #2604
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:50 PM   #2605
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I think its a bit late Jackyl!
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:51 PM   #2606
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if I was a wolf would i come right out and say I was gonna poinon you then actually do it?


Well, you say you're not a wolf but that you are positive I am. So yeah, if you are good there's no better target for you, right?

And if you are a wolf you might be able to get two more passengers today and then play the "OMG I AM SO SHOCKED HE WAS A PASSENGER WASN'T HE SUSPICIOUS EVERYONE WASN'T HE????" card......
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:52 PM   #2607
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why

Because it just seemed strange that

A) You'd say mccollins is for sure a wolf (I'm actually leaning against that at the moment)

B) You'd put yourself opposite Jackal like that

Just two things that given the events of the day ping my radar
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:52 PM   #2608
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And believe me I don't want a tie.. Please share your thoughts, in light of the fact clap didn't leave the boat day 5, I'd say pass is a better target, yes?
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:53 PM   #2609
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"OMG I AM SO SHOCKED HE WAS A PASSENGER WASN'T HE SUSPICIOUS EVERYONE WASN'T HE????" card......

Haha, not that I agree, but I could totally see Lathum doing that (nefarious or not). Ha.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:54 PM   #2610
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I can't decide if we should switch or if we just happen to round-about get lucky and still get a wolf.

argh.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:54 PM   #2611
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Here is Jackal's initial note about it, posted during after the vote deadline (but before the decision deadline) yesterday.

Now re-reading this, it does enter in some doubt.

At that point in time, day 5 is "yesterday" and clap was on the ship. Day 6 and solo golfing would have been "today".

For me, I'm going back to my gut, back to the vote I would have put in before 10pm yesterday, but had to wait until after 10pm.

Maybe I'm easily swayed, but this puts both clap and jackal in a semi-circle of trust for me.

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Old 04-15-2008, 12:55 PM   #2612
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:56 PM   #2613
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Well, you say you're not a wolf but that you are positive I am. So yeah, if you are good there's no better target for you, right?

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show me where I say I am positive you are a wolf?

it was actualy YOU who called ME a wollf.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:56 PM   #2614
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That's only valid if I'm a wolf.

Path and Lathum, you two are confusing the crap out of me. For all I know, you could both be wolves, bickering in public, and throwing off-votes on each other as a delay tactic while you try to accomplish your wolf goals.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:57 PM   #2615
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Maybe I'm easily swayed, but this puts both clap and jackal in a semi-circle of trust for me.

Actually almost makes me feel the opposite. There's plenty of time for the switch to occur. I was tempted to leave it on clap. I still might change it back.
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:58 PM   #2616
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:58 PM   #2617
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Now would be a good time for the people with a low quantity of posts to show up....
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Old 04-15-2008, 12:59 PM   #2618
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show me where I say I am positive you are a wolf?



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I am almost certain Path is a wolf and has been planting seeds to get me lynched since he saw an oppritunity.

Oops, you said "almost certain" and not "positive". My bad.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:00 PM   #2619
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Path and Lathum, you two are confusing the crap out of me. For all I know, you could both be wolves, bickering in public, and throwing off-votes on each other as a delay tactic while you try to accomplish your wolf goals.

Welcome to Hollywood. Could be, but isn't. I think Lathum is though.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:03 PM   #2620
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You are so wolf it's not funny. I feel like Heinz in the seer game.

and this is what you said.

so tell us please greybush, how are you so sure?

other that the fact you think I am a wolf every game?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:03 PM   #2621
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unvote jackyl
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:04 PM   #2622
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I don't even care if I get lynched, as long as it's on thursday and as long as you get Path next.

now the smart thing for the wolves to do would be kill Path to set me up.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:06 PM   #2623
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@Lathum: Why do you keep referring to Thursday? And what's a greybush?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:06 PM   #2624
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and this is what you said.

so tell us please greybush, how are you so sure?

other that the fact you think I am a wolf every game?

First of all, it was one, not the whole damn thing. Maybe two now, I'm afraid to check.

I don't think you're a wolf every game. But the fact that you usually are on my suspect list means that for me to come after you this hard means that I'm getting the vibe much more than usual.

This actually reminds me of that small game that came down to you, DC and I, with you and I screaming that the other was bad that whole last day and torturing poor DC. Of course, she voted me off and you won that as the last wolf......
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:07 PM   #2625
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unvote jackyl
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I <3 clapham.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:07 PM   #2626
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:07 PM   #2627
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now the smart thing for the wolves to do would be kill Path to set me up.

That sounds like you laying the groundwork for something that's about to happen.

You poison him and he dies or a wolf puts something (Pass's drugs?) in his food and kills him and we can't tell who actually did the deed...
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:09 PM   #2628
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That sounds like you laying the groundwork for something that's about to happen.

You poison him and he dies or a wolf puts something (Pass's drugs?) in his food and kills him and we can't tell who actually did the deed...

and again I ask you.

if I was a wolf what would I have to gain?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:11 PM   #2629
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and again I ask you.

if I was a wolf what would I have to gain?


"Chill out Mr. Lathum, you always get so blustery...why are dividing the vote? With 45 minutes to deadline, we're setting ourselves up..."
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:11 PM   #2630
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I'm also curious about this Lathum/Thursday business.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:12 PM   #2631
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Maybe I'm easily swayed, but this puts both clap and jackal in a semi-circle of trust for me.



I'm tempted to switch, but I'm waiting.

I'd be wary of putting both in any sort of COT though, personally.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:14 PM   #2632
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"Chill out Mr. Lathum, you always get so blustery...why are dividing the vote? With 45 minutes to deadline, we're setting ourselves up..."

Mr. Qwik, a question. Do you think it more likely that Mr. Passacaligula is a wolf or that Mr. claphamsa is -- taking into account Mr. The Jackal's recantation of his accusation.

Or is it just the fact that you believe that we can't get enough people to switch at this point with 45 minutes remaining until deadline?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:14 PM   #2633
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and again I ask you.

if I was a wolf what would I have to gain?

As someone else stated, if you knock off Path by poisoning him and he turns up a villager, then all you have to do is play the "Wow! He really was suspicious, wasn't he?!" card.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #2634
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Anyone have a count?

I'm leaning at this point to switching to Pass with Olie using her harmful item on one of Path/Lathum

Anyone else find it odd that Pass has been MIA today? He's normally a big poster this time of day.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:18 PM   #2635
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"Chill out Mr. Lathum, you always get so blustery...why are dividing the vote? With 45 minutes to deadline, we're setting ourselves up..."
i'm completly chill, just trying to get in his head and see what he;s getting at


anyoone have a vote count?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:19 PM   #2636
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Mr. Qwik, a question. Do you think it more likely that Mr. Passacaligula is a wolf or that Mr. claphamsa is -- taking into account Mr. The Jackal's recantation of his accusation.

Or is it just the fact that you believe that we can't get enough people to switch at this point with 45 minutes remaining until deadline?


"Second option most definately...plus this calls into question that this could be an elaborate method of keeping both out of the fire...seriously this is just so late, whether it is true or not, if we tie again, we're gonna be in hot water..."
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:19 PM   #2637
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I'm tempted to switch, but I'm waiting.

I haven't been able to keep up with everyone's votes as well today with all the switching, but I don't even have you down for a vote today heinz. If you're currently voting for clap, then that would make my unofficial vote count as:

7-5 Clap over Pass with no off votes.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:20 PM   #2638
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crap! I have my booring 2 hour staff meeting in 15 min :'(
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:21 PM   #2639
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As someone else stated, if you knock off Path by poisoning him and he turns up a villager, then all you have to do is play the "Wow! He really was suspicious, wasn't he?!" card.

I just don't get your line of thinking here.

Don't you think as a wolf I would just have poisened him and said nothing about it and let you guys speculate about it?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:21 PM   #2640
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Alan, can we get an official vote count?
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:22 PM   #2641
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I haven't been able to keep up with everyone's votes as well today with all the switching, but I don't even have you down for a vote today heinz. If you're currently voting for clap, then that would make my unofficial vote count as:

7-5 Clap over Pass with no off votes.

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Old 04-15-2008, 01:22 PM   #2642
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"Second option most definately...plus this calls into question that this could be an elaborate method of keeping both out of the fire...seriously this is just so late, whether it is true or not, if we tie again, we're gonna be in hot water..."

Fair enough. I don't disagree. We learn from this as well.

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Old 04-15-2008, 01:24 PM   #2643
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I just don't get your line of thinking here.

Don't you think as a wolf I would just have poisened him and said nothing about it and let you guys speculate about it?

No, because most of us still don't believe your rope cutting story or your vain attempts to get us to believe it again just because Alan mentioned the fact that boats need to be tied up.

I think you would do this to attempt to gain the trust that your rope cutting story hasn't gotten you.

Yes, the dinner was nice, but you could still be a wolf doing those things. Especially getting Cronin knocked off.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:24 PM   #2644
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:25 PM   #2645
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No, because most of us still don't believe your rope cutting story or your vain attempts to get us to believe it again just because Alan mentioned the fact that boats need to be tied up.

I think you would do this to attempt to gain the trust that your rope cutting story hasn't gotten you.

Yes, the dinner was nice, but you could still be a wolf doing those things. Especially getting Cronin knocked off.


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Old 04-15-2008, 01:25 PM   #2646
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Fair enough. I don't disagree. We learn from this as well.

UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA
VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Unofficially: 8-4 Clap over pass

I'm NOT switching again. I'm sticking with voting off the silent Pass.
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:27 PM   #2647
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:27 PM   #2648
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I just don't get your line of thinking here.

Don't you think as a wolf I would just have poisened him and said nothing about it and let you guys speculate about it?

OR if you're both wolves, then this move to kill Path by poisoning (if it would kill him) would REALLY be a move to gain trust. Since you have the crew power, you're obviously a more valuable wolf than Path (that is, if you both happen to be wolves).
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:30 PM   #2649
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Fair enough. I don't disagree. We learn from this as well.

UNVOTE PASSACAGLIA
VOTE CLAPHAMSA

Why would you do this? If Claphamsa's story checks out and Jackal misunderstood, then we've lost a passenger and Jackal isn't really as hot of a target as before the misunderstanding unraveled...
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Old 04-15-2008, 01:31 PM   #2650
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I think you would do this to attempt to gain the trust that your rope cutting story hasn't gotten you.


i feel like I am banging my head into a wall.

how does poising Path gain me trust, it only does if he is a wolf.

If I am a wolf then I know Path is a villager. As a wolf then putting that kind of unnecessary scrutiny on myself makes no sense at all. I would just poison him and let you all twist in the wind about it.
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