2023 NFL Regular Season Thread

[Brian Swartz]

I think that's an NFL problem, not a coaches doing interviews problem. As long as hiring coaches is allowed before the season is over, it's inevitable.

[RainMaker]

I thought he called a great game. 31 points and 442 yards against a top 5 defense on the road. They probably put up close to 40 if they didn't drop so many passes and kicked a field goal here and there.

Not sure what you all expect out of him. The 49ers are a really good team. I think most coaches would be ecstatic with the performance from that offense which isn't exactly loaded with huge talents.

[Carman Bulldog]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Reports say Ben Johnson made the announcement he was no longer pursuing a Head Coaching job while the Washington Commander's brass was on a flight to see him. That's cold.

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I thought they also had plans to interview Aaron Glenn. So I think they ended up flying anyways and just did one less interview.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by molson

Does going on a bunch of interviews before a playoff game potentially impact a coordinator's and team's performance? If I was a Lions fans I'd be psyched he's staying, but, would kind of wish he figured that out before doing lots of interviews during the playoffs.

Unless Johnson was traveling to the hiring team's facilities, interviewing and then flying back, I don't think it is a issue. I would love to see a mock interview to know for sure but I suspect it is about coaching philosophy, team structure, possible staff hires, and finally thoughts on the team's QB position. Interviews probably cut more into the 2-3 hours the coach was spending with his family during the week as opposed to prep time for the game.

[Danny]

And outside of the running with a minute left he called a great game.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Who hurt you?

Here....look at this stuffed animal/ They touched me right HERE.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Reports say Ben Johnson made the announcement he was no longer pursuing a Head Coaching job while the Washington Commander's brass was on a flight to see him. That's cold.

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I could have used that money

[CrimsonFox]

Okay I should probably ask this question. How much do head coaches call and how much do OCs/DCs call. Well i dunno if dcs call anything. But well. um...


Any Given Sunday
That movie. That is the ONLY example of the Head Coach/OC relationshiop I've ever seen. In the final game, seconds to go. They are down in score. HC Al Pacino looks at the situation and says...."Comanche". OC Aaron Eckhart responds "Comanche? But there's not enough time..." "This is why we got into it! Comanche! You got wings!" Eckhart then looks at his playbook from up aboe and looks at plays then says into the mic "Okay Comache White Right Sweep..." something like that

So the head coach called the main play and the OC tried to argue with him but it was the HC's call. Then the OC picked the SPECIFIC play of that type and relayed it to the players.

Is that at all accurate in how the HC and OC interact?

DOes the OC do anymore than that? Do the OCs even call the main plays?

[GrantDawg]

Depends on the team. Head coaches sometimes call plays on the side of the ball of their expertise (offense for a guy like Shanahan, defense for Belichick). If not then the OC/DC or even on a rare occasion another coach could be the play-caller.There have been a few times when someone like the QB coach calls plays. I heard of one instance recently where one coach was calling plays on first and second down and another called third down.
Anyway, the head coach hears every play call through the headset and has the ability to veto a call. How often that happens probably depends on the coach, but I imagine it would be very rare. Head coaches would usually have input on when a trick play is called. A non-playcalling coach is involved decisions where there is a special situation at hand, like going for it on fourth down or calling a fake kick.

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[JonInMiddleGA]

I believe UrinatingTree sums up things in Pittsburgh pretty well here

https://youtu.be/_8jvfC5CGpA?si=eqCxdwnU3hUkwvsG

[GrantDawg]

I was just reading some pretty interesting thoughts on what the fans believe New England's plans will be going forward. I thought for sure they would take a QB at 3 as long as they assess Jayden Daniels as worth it, but the buzz seems to be that the roster has too many needs. They believe they team will just stick with Mac and try to improve the overall roster, and then look for a quarterback in the next couple of seasons. If that is true, that is going to change the shape of the board dramatically.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I was just reading some pretty interesting thoughts on what the fans believe New England's plans will be going forward. I thought for sure they would take a QB at 3 as long as they assess Jayden Daniels as worth it, but the buzz seems to be that the roster has too many needs. They believe they team will just stick with Mac and try to improve the overall roster, and then look for a quarterback in the next couple of seasons. If that is true, that is going to change the shape of the board dramatically.

Id LOVE for the Raiders to move up to #3 for Daniels. Hes tight with AP and attended their last game. Id be fine giving up three firsts in a deal.

[QuikSand]

would be a beautiful #Redskins move if they fly to Detroit and then save face by hiring the coach of their pitiful defense rather than their impressive offense...

(I actually suspect Glenn gets a shot one day, but still on the surface, awesome)

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by QuikSand

would be a beautiful #Redskins move if they fly to Detroit and then save face by hiring the coach of their pitiful defense rather than their impressive offense...

(I actually suspect Glenn gets a shot one day, but still on the surface, awesome)

Where do you think they are leaning? I keep hearing Mike MacDonald.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Where do you think they are leaning? I keep hearing Mike MacDonald.

NVM. It looks like he is taking the Seahawks job.

[miami_fan]

So Steve Kerr still has a shot at the Commanders' job?

But seriously, is Eric Bieniemy an option in Washington? I don't remember hearing about him doing an interview with them. It feels like he might get the job by default.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

I think that's an NFL problem, not a coaches doing interviews problem. As long as hiring coaches is allowed before the season is over, it's inevitable.

Didn't it used to be illegal to interview a coach before their playoff run ended?

I thought they changed it because coordinators for successful teams had a hard time getting promoted because teams were hiring head coaches before coordinators even had a chance to interview.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Didn't it used to be illegal to interview a coach before their playoff run ended?

I thought they changed it because coordinators for successful teams had a hard time getting promoted because teams were hiring head coaches before coordinators even had a chance to interview.

Interview coach before super bowl, right to jail. Interview coach after super bowl, right to jail. Reading this post, right to jail.

[GrantDawg]

Washington official hires Dan Quinn. The fans seem not amused.

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Washington official hires Dan Quinn. The fans seem not amused.

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It's not an exciting hire but I do think it's a solid one. He's well respected with good connections to put together a strong staff.

I think he's a retread that deserves a 2nd shot.

[GrantDawg]

Maybe he learned enough from his failure at the Falcons. How that fell apart was his inability to put a staff together after losing Kyle Shanahan. Well, that and missing on several draft picks very badly.

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[cartman]

so Belichick to the Cowboys as DC and head coach in waiting? That would be something Jerrah would absolutely do

[QuikSand]

If I were a Commanders fan, I wanted more or less in this order: Johnson, Vrabel, some other razor stubble guy out of nowhere, and then maybe Dan Quinn.

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Okay I should probably ask this question. How much do head coaches call and how much do OCs/DCs call. Well i dunno if dcs call anything. But well. um...

This does not directly answer your question but I found it rather interesting.

What Makes a Good Offensive Coordinator? And Are There Fewer in 2023? - The Ringer

A couple things I never gave serious thought to:

1. Budget limitations for the staff. I mean I knew it was a thing but the idea that Mike Tice had to choose between Louisville's OC(Scott Linehan) and Georgia Tech's OC (Bill O'Brien) for the vacant Vikings' OC position in order to stay within budget just sounds weird.

2. A positional coach being the one responsible for the situational offense i.e. red zone, third down etc.

[bhlloy]

My first thought was to laugh at the Quinn news. The more I think about it, it’s probably a solid but unspectacular hire that will turn out to be far better than half the wunderkinds who got hired this or any other cycle. Probably a ceiling of 9-8 and lucking in to a playoff win, but then that might be true of any team that needs a QB.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by cartman

so Belichick to the Cowboys as DC and head coach in waiting? That would be something Jerrah would absolutely do

I don't see Belichick doing it.

[GrantDawg]

Alabama might lose the OC they just hired, as Seattle is considering Grubb for the OC position.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Alabama might lose the OC they just hired, as Seattle is considering Grubb for the OC position.

Good.

Fuck em...

[miami_fan]

Come on guys, we seen this enough to know what is going to happen. Belichick is going rehabilitate his image working as an analyst or senior assistant on the Alabama coaching staff. Look what it did for Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian etc.

[CrimsonFox]

what the fuck
NOBODY took Vrabel? Are they stupid?
Goddammit!

[GrantDawg]

It is rumored that UCLA head coach Chip Kelly is considering becoming the OC in Washington for Dan Quinn. If he does, that will be the second college head coach moving to a coordinator job in the NFL.

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[Atocep]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

It is rumored that UCLA head coach Chip Kelly is considering becoming the OC in Washington for Dan Quinn. If he does, that will be the second college head coach moving to a coordinator job in the NFL.

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I saw a rivals admin predict a couple weeks ago that this could become a thing. There's just little appeal to college coaching with the portal, NIL, etc.

[GrantDawg]

He actually interviewed for the Raiders job twice. I hadn't heard that. I totally get it. The college game was always much harder but now it is many times harder.

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[JPhillips]

UCLA was 8-5. They lost their stud freshman QB. They have to play five teams that could be in the top ten next year.

Kelly's stock was going to drop like a stone next year, so good for him in selling as high as possible.

[RainMaker]

He's also 60 and this is probably the last shot he would get at the big leagues.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

He's also 60 and this is probably the last shot he would get at the big leagues.

On the one hand, he's been around forever, so 60 makes sense.

On the other hand, it seems crazy that Chip Kelly is 60.

[Lathum]

I knew this guy stole 20 mil from the Jags but had no idea he lost it all playing daily fantasy on fanduel. I am a pretty heavy DFS player and I can not fathom playing that much let alone losing it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...tolen-millions

[GrantDawg]

Need a laugh?

Jim Harbaugh on Michigan QB JJ McCarthy: "Don't be surprised if/when he's the number one QB off the board. That's my prediction right now."

Bold statement by the new #Chargers head coach.

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— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) February 2, 2024

[GrantDawg]

There have been some players that have improved their draft status with the Senior Bowl, but none maybe as much as Spencer Rattler. Expect some buzz on him jumping up some boards.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I knew this guy stole 20 mil from the Jags but had no idea he lost it all playing daily fantasy on fanduel. I am a pretty heavy DFS player and I can not fathom playing that much let alone losing it.

Jaguars asked FanDuel to return stolen $20M, source says - ESPN

I understand that it’s an addiction, so it is not supposed to make sense. But you would think after losing, like, $10 million on daily fantasy it might occurr to someone that they’re not very good at daily fantasy.

[stevew]

Is Mahomes’ dad getting a DUI any kind of a distraction? It’s been awhile since Jackson did dumb shit.

[CrimsonFox]

my reaction to Senor Mahomes 3rd DWI

[miami_fan]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I understand that it’s an addiction, so it is not supposed to make sense. But you would think after losing, like, $10 million on daily fantasy it might occurr to someone that they’re not very good at daily fantasy.

Does it matter if it is not your money?

Gamblers, help me out with this bit.

"Gambling sites have a duty to perform 'Anti-Money Laundering' and 'Know Your Client' procedures to ensure they do not onboard funds of an illicit origin," said Stephen Bell, an attorney who practices in white-collar criminal cases. "Where the size of a customer's bets far outweighs their income, red flags are present and should require additional due diligence to confirm the funds are clean."

Are these gambling sites asking for a client's income? How does a site like FanDuel ensure that funds that are wagered are clean? I thought a company like FanDuel would care about it making sure the clients have the money to cover their bets. If the money is pulled from a bank account or a credit card (don't know if this is possible), does that suffice or does the client have to provide more info?

[cartman]

silly season has started for Super Bowl prop bets. Someone put a hundred grand down on the coin flip.

[CrimsonFox]

Is Travis kelswift overperforming lately cuz I kinda think he is

[CrimsonFox]

Uh oh Pacheco kittle and their guard didn't practice last week with booboos. I think rhe chiefs are going down

[CrimsonFox]

Oh wait kettle is sf

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Is Travis kelswift overperforming lately cuz I kinda think he is

I think he is the kind of player like Brady and Gronk, who plays out of his mind when it is win or die. Mahomes is the same. There is just a special drive in their DNA.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think he is the kind of player like Brady and Gronk, who plays out of his mind when it is win or die. Mahomes is the same. There is just a special drive in their DNA.

But when Taytay dumps him he will return to earth I think

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I think he is the kind of player like Brady and Gronk, who plays out of his mind when it is win or die. Mahomes is the same. There is just a special drive in their DNA.

and see....it boggles my mind that every single player in the NFL doesn't play out of their mind...because they only have to do this 16 times a year. So why would any of these goombas not play out of their mind for those 16 times a year