If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next

[CrimsonFox]

Portman saying he is going to not run again because he doesn't like the gridlock he helped create. Now we'll be stuck with fricking Jordan or some asshole like that

[JPhillips]

This from the Oregon GOP goes along with the Texas GOP adopting a Q slogan, and the Arizona GOP censuring the current GOP Gov, a former GOP Senator, and Cindy McCain. The crazies are winning.

These people. They claim 1/6 attack on the US Capitol was a “false flag” orchestrated so Democrats can seize total power. This is the official Republican line in Oregon. How can there be unity when one side is batcrap crazy? https://t.co/hzZK6Uth7e

— David Corn (@DavidCornDC) January 25, 2021

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

This from the Oregon GOP goes along with the Texas GOP adopting a Q slogan, and the Arizona GOP censuring the current GOP Gov, a former GOP Senator, and Cindy McCain. The crazies are winning.

Are they? Arizona Republicans have lost both Senators to the Democrats. Going the Q route seems like a way to get your ass kicked in any swing state.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Are they? Arizona Republicans have lost both Senators to the Democrats. Going the Q route seems like a way to get your ass kicked in any swing state.

I meant winning within the GOP.

But in a two-party system, they'll be back in power soon. How insane the GOP becomes matters to all of us.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Are they? Arizona Republicans have lost both Senators to the Democrats. Going the Q route seems like a way to get your ass kicked in any swing state.

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I meant winning within the GOP.

But in a two-party system, they'll be back in power soon. How insane the GOP becomes matters to all of us.

Arizona is very strange in the the two biggest counties Maricopa and Pima are very much the definition of purple. You get to the rural places, like where Gosar and Ward come from and it's like being in an entirely different world sometimes, s0 yeah, there are enough craziness in their areas that they will always have a voice and with clever districting they will always have 3-4 state seats in Maricopa and Pima. so yeah, they statewide not enough Arizonans embrace their BS, but they get just enough support in local politics to continue to fuel the insanity.

[JPhillips]

lol

[GrantDawg]

Trump letting the GOP Senators know that he is still a Republican. He is not forming that new party, at least until after the trial.

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[CrimsonFox]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/busin...hnk/index.html

isn';t that cute, MyLumpypillow CEO Mikey got banned from, twitter now

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Arizona is very strange in the the two biggest counties Maricopa and Pima are very much the definition of purple. You get to the rural places, like where Gosar and Ward come from and it's like being in an entirely different world sometimes, s0 yeah, there are enough craziness in their areas that they will always have a voice and with clever districting they will always have 3-4 state seats in Maricopa and Pima. so yeah, they statewide not enough Arizonans embrace their BS, but they get just enough support in local politics to continue to fuel the insanity.

now the republ;ican dickheads in AZ went after fellow reps and censured them

just how stupid are they

I mean CINDY McCAIN???

aren't the mccains like republican deities?

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

now the republ;ican dickheads in AZ went after fellow reps and censured them

just how stupid are they

I mean CINDY McCAIN???

aren't the mccains like republican deities?

Putting Kelli Ward in charge of your state party (and Allen West in Texas for that matter) leads to insanity.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

now the republ;ican dickheads in AZ went after fellow reps and censured them

just how stupid are they

I mean CINDY McCAIN???

aren't the mccains like republican deities?

Ward, Biggs, Gosar and Lesko are all Trumpers, which makes them an enemy of the McCains since their Daddy hated John.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Putting Kelli Ward in charge of your state party (and Allen West in Texas for that matter) leads to insanity.

Leads to or is a symptom of?

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Leads to or is a symptom of?

Yes.

Any Republican that doesn't completely toe the Trump line fully and completely are worst then Satan and Nancy Pelosi (who most Republicans believe are the same person).

[GrantDawg]

Absolutely no chance of conviction.

McConnell joins many Republicans in voting to keep alive the procedural motion to question the constitutionality of the trial proceedings. He sided with Rand Paul

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 26, 2021

[GrantDawg]

Not a single surprise

The 5 Republicans who voted with Democrats on the Paul point of order:

Collins ME
Murkowski AK
Romney UT
Sasse NE
Toomey PA

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) January 26, 2021

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[Jas_lov]

I figured they'd only get 5-10 R votes and nothing will happen. Trump will run again, destroy their party even more and they'll still bend over backwards to defend the guy. Let's just pray he doesn't win in 2024 now that he sees there are no consequences for leading a coup.

[GrantDawg]

It just pisses me off that this trial will just keep Trump in the media, take up the time in the Senate, and allow Trump to glory in another acquittal. Our system is just so broken.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

It just pisses me off that this trial will just keep Trump in the media, take up the time in the Senate, and allow Trump to glory in another acquittal. Our system is just so broken.

Do they have to take it up now? They're already waiting until February with no real shot at a conviction. Can they wait longer and see if more information comes out and/or Trump does something crazy enough to sway more senators?

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by rjolley

Do they have to take it up now? They're already waiting until February with no real shot at a conviction. Can they wait longer and see if more information comes out and/or Trump does something crazy enough to sway more senators?

No amount of FACTUAL information matters anymore when it comes to the GOP and Trump. It's been that way since 2015. It isn't going to change.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

No amount of FACTUAL information matters anymore when it comes to the GOP and Trump. It's been that way since 2015. It isn't going to change.

Before that. 2008 was Birtherism and Death Panels. Trump just came along to take advantage of the fact he has a population of people that hate the other side so much you can literally tell them anything and they'll believe it.

[rjolley]

Originally Posted by kingfc22

No amount of FACTUAL information matters anymore when it comes to the GOP and Trump. It's been that way since 2015. It isn't going to change.

I agree, but I'm trying to be optimistic here...

[Galaril]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

I figured they'd only get 5-10 R votes and nothing will happen. Trump will run again, destroy their party even more and they'll still bend over backwards to defend the guy. Let's just pray he doesn't win in 2024 now that he sees there are no consequences for leading a coup.

Yeah geez guess we should plan on Trump as prez in 2024 along with Rs controlling the senate and maybe House? Oh boy God only knows what that will get us? Emperor Trump and family? Secretary of State Liddell?

[JPhillips]

It's just so weird that no one has the nuts to claim the mantle of MAGA leader for themselves. None of these idiots will be the President if the party stays married to Trump.

[CrimsonFox]

Heather Cox RIchardson is saying the reason for them voting no is so they don't HAVE to impeach him because it will turn out bad either way.

I dunno. They're all just so gross.

[RainMaker]

Has anyone been charged with felony murder yet? I haven't been paying attention too much to the arrests outside of a few highly publicized ones. Do they know who killed the cop? Do they know the people who were helping the lady through the window to her death?

[GrantDawg]

A large number of felonies have been charged such as assault on police officer and various weapons charges. They are going to be charging some of those who have already been arrested with conspiracy (20 years) soon. They have a grand jury going right now. They have the pictures of the guys that they suspect killed the police officer, but I haven't seen any identified yet.

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[BYU 14]

Pretty sure being a snitch won't endear him to his racist minions

Exclusive: Proud Boys leader was ‘prolific’ informer for law enforcement

And I love the "I don't remember that excuse" One scumbag whose 15 minutes are expiring.

[JPhillips]

It does make his easy arrest the night before the riot look quite a bit different.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

It's just so weird that no one has the nuts to claim the mantle of MAGA leader for themselves. None of these idiots will be the President if the party stays married to Trump.

There is no possible way to claim the MAGA mantle and turn on Trump. The only way to get the mantle is for Trump to place it on them. The fact that they can't see that there is no way he will ever give it to someone not named "Trump" is what makes it stupid. I think they are hoping that someone/something else takes Trump out (most likely a legal conviction) and that will allow them to take control. That is their only shot.

[Ksyrup]

I don't know why it ever got this far, but glad to see this is finally seeing the light of day/ Probably not a chance in hell it happens, even though it should.

INBOX:
Urgent: US @RepJimmyGomez to Introduce Resolution Expelling Marjorie Taylor Greene from Congress pic.twitter.com/ULAdCtBTz1

— Matt Laslo (@MattLaslo) January 28, 2021

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

It's just so weird that no one has the nuts to claim the mantle of MAGA leader for themselves. None of these idiots will be the President if the party stays married to Trump.

I don't know if you noticed during the Insurrection that many of the MAGA chuds weren't carrying American flags, they were carrying Trump flags. They dont give a fuck about America, they only care about Trump.

[JPhillips]

Right. I'm just surprised nobody has said, I'm the guy to continue Trump's work.

[albionmoonlight]

One of the things that makes prisoner's dilemma so interesting is that the players cannot communicate with each other. You have to try to balance the good of the group with your own personal success based on limited information. And so sometimes you end up with a result that is worse for everyone b/c the group lacked the ability to work together.

But here, these people can communicate all they want. Hawley, Cotton, Carlson, Cruz, Pence, Rubio, Halley, McConnell, McCarthy, etc. can all have days and days of secret meetings with each other to devise a plan to get rid of Trump and his spawn while keeping the MAGA energy in the party and preventing a GOP/MAGA split and making sure that none of them is seen as the Brutus holding the knife in Trump's back at the end.

Then, after that, they can all try and position themselves in the MAGA lane for the 2024 primary.

I don't see how it benefits any of them for Trump to stay around. He turns off moderates, and he doesn't care about the good of the party.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

It's just so weird that no one has the nuts to claim the mantle of MAGA leader for themselves. None of these idiots will be the President if the party stays married to Trump.

I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is making a strong push

[molson]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

I think Marjorie Taylor Greene is making a strong push

She is on track for the 2024 GOP nomination.

She is kind of like the AOC on the right in that she provides a new, fresh, voice, saying things they desperately want to hear. Except in this case those things are promises to bring violence to their political enemies.

[Ksyrup]

This seems like news.

Man arrested w/ gun + 20 rounds of ammunition near US Capitol Weds afternoon had "Stop the Steal paperwork" with him "that had a list of Senators and Representatives" in both the US Congress & WV state house, along with their contact information, according to a police affidavit.

— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) January 28, 2021

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by molson

She is on track for the 2024 GOP nomination.

She is kind of like the AOC on the right in that she provides a new, fresh, voice, saying things they desperately want to hear. Except in this case those things are promises to bring violence to their political enemies.

Her revelation that a Jew controlled laser started the California wild fires is bound to elevate her status in the GOP.

[Ksyrup]

We're cooked as a nation. Done.

An NBC producer talked to Rep. Greene’s constituents in Rome, GA yesterday. Many were not bothered by her conspiracies.

“Noah was a conspiracy theorist himself when he built the ark,” one supporter said. “So who are we to say that it’s true or not?” https://t.co/vRn2tEAPrj

— Charlie Gile (@CharlieGileNBC) January 28, 2021

[GrantDawg]

There is a reason that "Deliverance" was set in her district.

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[BYU 14]

Gawd that bitch reminds me of my first wife LOL

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Her revelation that a Jew controlled laser started the California wild fires is bound to elevate her status in the GOP.

I'm really struggling to come to terms with this revelation after assuming it had been Antifa all this time. I guess Jewish Space Laser makes more sense though.

[JPhillips]

Probably won't pass this cycle, but this is where the GOP is headed.

Arizona GOP lawmaker introduces bill to give Legislature power to toss out election results https://t.co/FcXLs5RJYA

— Dan De Luce (@dandeluce) January 29, 2021

[BYU 14]

Geez-o, there is a group here that is so far out of touch with the population of Arizona it is ridiculous. The lie that keeps on giving.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

There is a reason that "Deliverance" was set in her district.

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I always thought Deliverance was in LA (just my bias I guess) so looked it up. Supposedly Rabun county in NE GA but Green represents NW GA.

The river where most of the book's action takes place, the Cahulawassee, closely resembles the Chattooga River, which forms the border between Georgia and South Carolina in the former's northeasternmost corner in Rabun County.

[albionmoonlight]

I'd kind of prefer it if one of these MAGA state legislatures just passed a law saying that the state's electoral votes will go to the winner of the GOP Primary.

I think that the Constitution allows them to do it. And we'd skip a lot of steps to just be honest about it. All of this "it's really about protecting the integrity of the vote" theater just muddies the issue.

They think that the Democrat Party is an existential threat to America. OK. I don't agree with that. But that's what they think. Just own it. Own it and let the citizens of your state decide what to do about it. (Hint--not much b/c SCOTUS recently held that gerrymanders are totally fine).

[CrimsonFox]

LOL Trump's defense lawyers just quit.

Please say he's going to defend himself....
Please say he's going to defend himself....

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

LOL Trump's defense lawyers just quit.

Please say he's going to defend himself....
Please say he's going to defend himself....

Hate to burst your bubble but don't think he is worried much about Senate confirming the impeachment.

[Ben E Lou]

Holy cow. This letter...

The Lincoln Project’s legal response to the false and defamatory statements made by Rudy Giuliani. pic.twitter.com/MshgYIMC69

— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) January 30, 2021

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

Holy cow. This letter...

This will be fun to watch it play out.

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

LOL Trump's defense lawyers just quit.

Please say he's going to defend himself....
Please say he's going to defend himself....

The GOP senators are strongly signaling, “Sir if you do anything other than show up quoting Mein Kampf and throwing your feces around, we will be able to acquit you.”

And Trump is like, “I’ll take that under advisement, but I’m not sure it’s possible.”