WW CXXXIX - The Red Death II - GAME OVER, SERVANTS WIN - Page 53

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 09:44 PM

unvote ef
vote bug

This whole thing today was messed up...Not sure what to do honestly.

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 09:45 PM

Jinx, Autumn!

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dubb93

On a day where we have obvious wolves in sight to go out of your way to call me a possible wolf. I'm honored.

You're welcome. But unless we are 100% positive there are not +1 votes in this game putting 3 people up to a tie is crazy when it means we can lose two villagers only extremely crazy people and wolves would want that to happen.

hoopsguy · 10-07-2011, 09:47 PM

From the way the votes stack up, and the folks we have in here, I don't think a 3 way tie is feasible. Unless someone wants to show me how we could make it happen, I'm not prepared to argue too much about it.

As far as a two-way tie, I would rather it is between EF/Bug than Bug/Narcizo even though I think a run-off between Bug/Narcizo makes the most sense. I'm not 100% sure this makes sense, but I don't want to take out both BG/Seer with a near-guarantee of taking out one real villager role. I feel like I've got this right with a Bug vote, and can console myself with the idea that we've got two wolves if we're wrong with a Bug vote.

I've also had a few glasses of wine tonight, so I'll admit that the old logic-and-reasoning might be a bit tighter tomorrow morning than it is right now.

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 09:47 PM

Does someone have a list of all the people that have revealed their roles?

J23 · 10-07-2011, 09:48 PM

I'm back, but not really interested in moving my vote. I think Bug getting lynched tells us the most. If he's good, he gives us two wolves in EF and Narc. If he's bad, those two look better and we've gotten ourselves a wolf.

J23 · 10-07-2011, 09:49 PM

BTW, remember conditionals for item passing tonight

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:49 PM

My count thus far as of #2606

EF (4) - Mckerney(2387) SN(2499) Jackal(1511)CR(2526)
Bug(9) - EF(2211) Commo(2354) Narc(2369) Thomkal(2415) Hoops(2423) J23(2445) Dubb(2536) Autumn(2600) Mau(601)
Narc(2) - Bug(2224) Gramm(2294)

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:50 PM

I think this is a safe lead on bug now.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I think this is a safe lead on bug now.

lol, I should hope so!

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

From the way the votes stack up, and the folks we have in here, I don't think a 3 way tie is feasible. Unless someone wants to show me how we could make it happen, I'm not prepared to argue too much about it.

As far as a two-way tie, I would rather it is between EF/Bug than Bug/Narcizo even though I think a run-off between Bug/Narcizo makes the most sense. I'm not 100% sure this makes sense, but I don't want to take out both BG/Seer with a near-guarantee of taking out one real villager role. I feel like I've got this right with a Bug vote, and can console myself with the idea that we've got two wolves if we're wrong with a Bug vote.

I've also had a few glasses of wine tonight, so I'll admit that the old logic-and-reasoning might be a bit tighter tomorrow morning than it is right now.

There are still 15 people, so just 5/5/5 are needed.

dubb93 · 10-07-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

There are still 15 people, so just 5/5/5 are needed.

So when I suggest it I am crazy and a possible wolf but Hoops comes out and suggests it and now you are arranging it.

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 09:53 PM

lolol

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 09:53 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

So when I suggest it I am crazy and a possible wolf but Hoops comes out and suggests it and now you are arranging it.

I'm not arranging it, just saying it is possible. I'd be very suspicious of any movement at this point.

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 09:55 PM

Dola, I could see how funny it looked though, but was just pointing out it could be done so it is a valid concern.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commo_Soldier

I'm not arranging it, just saying it is possible. I'd be very suspicious of any movement at this point.

*does a jig*

J23 · 10-07-2011, 09:56 PM

*has a movement*

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

So when I suggest it I am crazy and a possible wolf but Hoops comes out and suggests it and now you are arranging it.

Given how much crap you've been giving any of us voting EF, the idea of a 3 way tie coming from you seems a bit odd. If you think Bug is bad then you expect Narc is good, and our bodyguard, the most important role left. Why would you want to orchestrate the only way the wolves could get rid of him? If you don't think Bug is bad, why have you been harshing on us for voting EF?

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

*has a movement*

TMI

Abe Sargent · 10-07-2011, 09:59 PM

tiem check

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 09:59 PM

I'm getting a good feeling from Bug's absence this evening, actually. It reminds me of Zinto's surrender at the end. I think the wolves have just been bent over a barrel this game and are probably frustrated.

J23 · 10-07-2011, 09:59 PM

it's time for the lynch to answer all our questions!

Thomkal · 10-07-2011, 10:00 PM

abe is going to have so much fun doing his lynch flavor I think. I hope we Lightbringers are going to have much fun reading it.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:00 PM

F5, F5

Abe Sargent · 10-07-2011, 10:00 PM

Timre

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

*does a jig*

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

*has a movement*

*Raises eyebrow in a questioning way*

Thomkal · 10-07-2011, 10:01 PM

<---uses his baseball bat to hit a grand slam for the Cards against the Phillies tonight.

J23 · 10-07-2011, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

tiem check

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Timre

Do we think Abe's consistent misspelling of time is a hint?!?

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 10:04 PM

Ah, what better way to spend my friday night

MrBug708 · 10-07-2011, 10:04 PM

Wrong move guys

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

F5, F5

If you keep posting things like this I'll never catch up to you.

J23 · 10-07-2011, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Wrong move guys

If it is, you gave us two wolves in Narc and EF.

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Wrong move guys

If it was, at least you got us a second person scanned in EF with your death.

MrBug708 · 10-07-2011, 10:06 PM

Cmon flame@

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 10:06 PM

Fuck. If he's serious.

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Cmon flame@

If you are a villager I really hope the flame comes through for you.

dubb93 · 10-07-2011, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Given how much crap you've been giving any of us voting EF, the idea of a 3 way tie coming from you seems a bit odd. If you think Bug is bad then you expect Narc is good, and our bodyguard, the most important role left. Why would you want to orchestrate the only way the wolves could get rid of him? If you don't think Bug is bad, why have you been harshing on us for voting EF?

Well to be completely honest it was more a joke but now that the deadline has passed here is how I could see it as beneficial.

1. Clearly either EF or Bug is a wolf. They could potentially both be a wolf as EF could be trying to by trust in Bug's death.

2. Both Narc and EF could be a wolf and Bug could be good.

3. Both Bug and Narc could be wolves. Bug realized he was outted and went with Narc as his "scan" and painted him a wolf to try and by Narc trust once he(bug) was gone.

I stand by my stance that you either vote Bug or Narc today and not EF b/c I think an EF death tells us the least. It tells us nothing about Bug/Narc. And if you believe Bug then you have to vote Narc, Bug would have then scanned Narc as a wolf as the village seer. Right?

J23 · 10-07-2011, 10:07 PM

I think the flame will only spare villagers (well, has a chance to spare villagers)

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Wrong move guys

You had a lot of time to convince us otherwise. And remember folks, to a wolf, lynching a wolf is a wrong move. It's all relative.

dubb93 · 10-07-2011, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Wrong move guys

You should have role revealed!

dubb93 · 10-07-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

It tells us nothing about Bug/Narc. And if you believe Bug then you have to vote Narc, Bug would have then scanned Narc as a wolf as the village seer. Right?

Unless of course EF is good then it tells us Bug is a wolf. But we could skip the middle man(EF in this case) and just lynch the source to tell us that.

Commo_Soldier · 10-07-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

You should have role revealed!

This, would have totally saved you.

mauchow · 10-07-2011, 10:09 PM

Bug was on quite a bit earlier this afternoon, I didn't think he was helping his situation all too much then. Perhaps it would have been different if it was hashed out again.

If true though, I guess we can be glad we can get Narc/EF tomorrow.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

I stand by my stance that you either vote Bug or Narc today and not EF b/c I think an EF death tells us the least. It tells us nothing about Bug/Narc. And if you believe Bug then you have to vote Narc, Bug would have then scanned Narc as a wolf as the village seer. Right?

I don't think it tells us nothing. A bad EF tells us that Bug is likely good. A good EF tells us that Bug is definitely bad, and therefore Narc is most likely good.

And what I keep pointing out is that one way you possibly end up with a dead detective, another way with a dead seer. That matters.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

You should have role revealed!

*claps*

MrBug708 · 10-07-2011, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J23

If it is, you gave us two wolves in Narc and EF.

True..good luck

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mauboy1

Bug was on quite a bit earlier this afternoon, I didn't think he was helping his situation all too much then.

Exactly, which is why a wolf Bug probably decided not to show back up. A villager Bug I think more likely keeps trying.

dubb93 · 10-07-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

I don't think it tells us nothing. A bad EF tells us that Bug is likely good. A good EF tells us that Bug is definitely bad, and therefore Narc is most likely good.

And what I keep pointing out is that one way you possibly end up with a dead detective, another way with a dead seer. That matters.

Of course we lynch EF he turns up bad and Bug is also bad, as I put out earlier, then where do we go? We have a seer that is bad but now in the COT. Unfortunately there is one role guaranteed to die every game. The seer. In this instance the seer has done all he can. Good or bad we need information that only his death can bring. Sucks but it is what it is.

Autumn · 10-07-2011, 10:12 PM

Bug, do you think EF is a wolf? Why didn't you move your vote to him?

10-07-2011, 09:49 PM	#2608
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	My count thus far as of #2606 EF (4) - Mckerney(2387) SN(2499) Jackal(1511)CR(2526) Bug(9) - EF(2211) Commo(2354) Narc(2369) Thomkal(2415) Hoops(2423) J23(2445) Dubb(2536) Autumn(2600) Mau(601) Narc(2) - Bug(2224) Gramm(2294) __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-07-2011, 09:50 PM	#2609
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	I think this is a safe lead on bug now. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-07-2011, 09:55 PM	#2616
Commo_Soldier College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: JBLM, WA	Dola, I could see how funny it looked though, but was just pointing out it could be done so it is a valid concern. __________________ I killed a wolf and I liked it.

10-07-2011, 09:59 PM	#2621
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	tiem check __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-07-2011, 10:00 PM	#2626
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Timre __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

10-07-2011, 09:44 PM	#2601
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	unvote ef vote bug This whole thing today was messed up...Not sure what to do honestly.

10-07-2011, 09:45 PM	#2602
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Jinx, Autumn!

10-07-2011, 09:47 PM	#2604
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	From the way the votes stack up, and the folks we have in here, I don't think a 3 way tie is feasible. Unless someone wants to show me how we could make it happen, I'm not prepared to argue too much about it. As far as a two-way tie, I would rather it is between EF/Bug than Bug/Narcizo even though I think a run-off between Bug/Narcizo makes the most sense. I'm not 100% sure this makes sense, but I don't want to take out both BG/Seer with a near-guarantee of taking out one real villager role. I feel like I've got this right with a Bug vote, and can console myself with the idea that we've got two wolves if we're wrong with a Bug vote. I've also had a few glasses of wine tonight, so I'll admit that the old logic-and-reasoning might be a bit tighter tomorrow morning than it is right now.

10-07-2011, 09:47 PM	#2605
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Does someone have a list of all the people that have revealed their roles?

10-07-2011, 09:48 PM	#2606
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I'm back, but not really interested in moving my vote. I think Bug getting lynched tells us the most. If he's good, he gives us two wolves in EF and Narc. If he's bad, those two look better and we've gotten ourselves a wolf.

10-07-2011, 09:49 PM	#2607
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	BTW, remember conditionals for item passing tonight

10-07-2011, 09:53 PM	#2613
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	lolol

10-07-2011, 09:53 PM	#2614
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I was thinking the same thing.

10-07-2011, 09:56 PM	#2618
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	has a movement

10-07-2011, 09:59 PM	#2622
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm getting a good feeling from Bug's absence this evening, actually. It reminds me of Zinto's surrender at the end. I think the wolves have just been bent over a barrel this game and are probably frustrated.

10-07-2011, 09:59 PM	#2623
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	it's time for the lynch to answer all our questions!

10-07-2011, 10:00 PM	#2624
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	abe is going to have so much fun doing his lynch flavor I think. I hope we Lightbringers are going to have much fun reading it.

10-07-2011, 10:00 PM	#2625
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	F5, F5

10-07-2011, 10:01 PM	#2628
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	<---uses his baseball bat to hit a grand slam for the Cards against the Phillies tonight.

10-07-2011, 10:04 PM	#2630
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Ah, what better way to spend my friday night

10-07-2011, 10:04 PM	#2631
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Wrong move guys

10-07-2011, 10:06 PM	#2635
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Cmon flame@

10-07-2011, 10:06 PM	#2636
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Fuck. If he's serious.

10-07-2011, 10:07 PM	#2639
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	I think the flame will only spare villagers (well, has a chance to spare villagers)

10-07-2011, 10:09 PM	#2644
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Bug was on quite a bit earlier this afternoon, I didn't think he was helping his situation all too much then. Perhaps it would have been different if it was hashed out again. If true though, I guess we can be glad we can get Narc/EF tomorrow.

10-07-2011, 10:12 PM	#2650
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Bug, do you think EF is a wolf? Why didn't you move your vote to him?

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