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[britrock88]

Good catch!

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by cadmus2166

HR, do you know if the tournament bonus is for every season, or just the most recent? And if it apples to all seasons, should that be added in before the weighted season percentage is calculated or after? Thanks in advance for all your help on this!

Tournament bonus stays in the calculation as part of the total points for the season it was earned. Weighting the seasons comes last. Figure out the total points for each season with that season's tournament bonus included then apply the weights.

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by LloydLungs

FYI, the 14-team conference tourney format being used by the Big East and SEC differs from the 14-team format in the game. In the game it's a 6-game first day with only the top two getting byes. In this year's SEC and Big East, it's a five-day event with 11 v 14 and 12 v 13 on the first day, then proceeding like a 12-team tourney from then on.

Bah, I hate 5 day tourneys. The bracket takes up too much space. I'll add that in at some point when I take a break from the pro game though.

[amazedbygrace86]

Heavy Reign,

Would it be at all possible to show the Academic Level for each player on the "Training Schedule" screen (perhaps right next to their name)? When I'm setting my training, I often have to click through to see what their Academics level is and then go back out to adjust accordingly. It's not a big deal, but it would make the screen flow a little smoother.

Thanks!

[INDalltheway]

I believe it is on the screen. Pretty sure it is one of the last categories on the right.

[amazedbygrace86]

Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I've never been sure what "Cur" stands for, but I guess that the person's academics in number form.

[cadmus2166]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Tournament bonus stays in the calculation as part of the total points for the season it was earned. Weighting the seasons comes last. Figure out the total points for each season with that season's tournament bonus included then apply the weights.

Thanks!! That made the most sense to me as well, while I was playing with the numbers, but just wanted to be sure I was on the right path.

[INDalltheway]

Originally Posted by amazedbygrace86

Yeah, I saw that after I posted. I've never been sure what "Cur" stands for, but I guess that the person's academics in number form.

The only thing I could ever come up with is "Curriculum." HR could you put my mind at ease with this question?

[HeavyReign]

Was basically an abbreviation for Current because it had the current academic rating and I couldn't come up with anything better at the time.

[HeavyReign]

http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2315.exe

Extract the files to your install directory. When you start the game it should say version 2.3.15 in the bottom left corner after applying the update.

Version 2.3.15 (01/23/2013)
************************************************************
Fixes:
*Fixed error 9 that could occur when starting a new game with a player file.
*Import CSV option under player file editor will only show files in proper format.

Changes:
*Added support for 5 day 14 team conference tourney format.

[britrock88]

Woop woop!

And pardon me for not knowing off the top of my head, but does the current build support a 15-team tourney?

[HeavyReign]

Not right now

[Young Drachma]

You're too good to us.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Young Drachma

You're too good to us.

So true.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by britrock88

And pardon me for not knowing off the top of my head, but does the current build support a 15-team tourney?

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Not right now

Technically the Big East would be using a 15-team format but for UConn's APR issues this year, but that 15-team Big East arrangement is highly temporary and unusual. Not sure there will be another 15-team league in college hoops anytime soon after this year. I'd say that a 15-team format may not be worth the trouble. But thanks a bunch for the 14-team update, HR.

[britrock88]

Good point. With Rutgers and the Catholic Seven bolting, the Big East isn't likely to get back to 15. The ACC, however, will hit 15 when Louisville replaces Maryland and Notre Dame joins for basketball.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Good point. With Rutgers and the Catholic Seven bolting, the Big East isn't likely to get back to 15. The ACC, however, will hit 15 when Louisville replaces Maryland and Notre Dame joins for basketball.

Interesting -- didn't know that but this crap is so hard to keep up with. I wouldn't be surprised if the ACC does something to get off that 15 number before it ever comes to fruition.

[HeavyReign]

I'll get the 15 game tourneys added on the next posted build. It is just a matter of editing the 16 team stuff so not too big of a time investment.

[Groundhog]

I just had an opponent lay down one of the most impressive individual performances I've ever seen in this game, considering he's a 6'1 PG:

Utah Valley  (1-0, 0-0):
Player            Pos Min Fgm-a Ftm-a Off Reb Ast PF Pts
Nathan Warren     C    39 10-21   3-6   2   3   3  4  23
Sabatino Roberts  PF   25   2-5   2-5   1   7   3  4   7
Matthew Moore     SF   38  4-12   3-8   3   6   3  4  13
Brian Maguire     SG   42 11-21   6-9  10  23   5  3  35
Barry Barnett     PG   41   1-6   1-2   0   1   6  2   3
Benny Griffith    SG   12   2-3   0-0   0   3   1  0   4
Robert King       SF    2   0-0   0-0   0   0   0  0   0
Tyrone Nystrom    PF   13   3-3   0-1   3   6   0  4   6
Carl Feliciano    C     8   0-1   0-0   0   0   0  4   0
Daniel Monte      PG    1   1-1   0-0   0   0   0  0   2
A.J. Lockhart     C     6   0-2   3-4   0   0   0  0   3

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Not sure if knowing pretty much how it works will make it that much easier to set new prestige but here we go. The original prestiges were set using a spreadsheet made by one of the beta testers. I have the spreadsheet he used but I'm not 100% sure what it takes to update it. As far as the in game calculations, prestige is a 10 year calculation weighted towards the most recent season. So the most recent season counts 100%, the previous season counts 90%, then 80% and so on. The total of these prestiges is then divided by 5.5.

Each season the team is assigned a prestige level based on how they did in the regular season in conference as well as how they did in the postseason. Points for the regular season depend on the prestige of your conference.

1: -5 to 35
2: 10 to 50
3: 20 to 60
4: 30 to 75
5: 45 to 85

While it isn't exact, first place in the conference gets you max points and last place gets you the minimum points in the range. If you win your conference tourney, the game will consider your team as no worse than the 3rd place finisher.

You then get bonus points depending on the round you advance to the post season. Championship tourney gives the following points by last round played:

1: 10 points and minimum of 55 total points.
2: 13 points and minimum of 70 total points.
3: 16 points and minimum of 80 total points.
4: 20 points and minimum of 85 total points.
5: 25 points and minimum of 90 total points.
6: 30 points and minimum of 100 total points.
7: 50 points and minimum of 125 total points.

Other tourneys give a much smaller bonus ranging from 1 to 15 points.

BTW, cadmus and others, I'm working on this. Done a lot of data entry already. I think what I might do is enter the criteria HR mentions (conference standing, conference tournament wins, postseason tournament bids, postseason tournament results, a couple other things), add some formula placeholders if you want to weight things differently, and share.

[dave731]

HR, any reason the Import CSV for player roster always yields an error message when you go beyond 15 players in the file? I can understand if it were a limit on the rosters for each team but to limit the entire roster file to just 15 players seems wrong. I just got back into playing around with the roster editor after finding a site that yields a CSV output for stats. I'm using that to see just how long it would take to do a team and it literally took me about 20-30 minutes to do Kentucky's roster from last year. This makes using the import csv a lot more feasible for me now but if the limit on the file is 15 total spots then it is a no go.

I get a Run Time Error 6 Overflow message and a Run Time 62 Error which says something about data beyond end of field. I am careful to not enter anything beyond the parameters set by the game though. Any thoughts?

[HeavyReign]

Send me what you've got and I'll take a look at it.

[dave731]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Send me what you've got and I'll take a look at it.

Just sent you an email with the CSV file I'm trying to import.

[HeavyReign]

Basically the CSV file isn't including the blank spots for high school, city, and state on a number of lines.

http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2316.exe

Version 2.3.16 (1/27/13)
************************************************************
Fixes:
*Fixed overlow issue importing CSV file on player filed editor when csv file doesn't fill all lines properly.

Changes:
*Added support for 15 team conference tourneys.

[dave731]

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Basically the CSV file isn't including the blank spots for high school, city, and state on a number of lines.

http://www.fbbgames.com/FBCB2010v2316.exe

Version 2.3.16 (1/27/13)
************************************************************
Fixes:
*Fixed overlow issue importing CSV file on player filed editor when csv file doesn't fill all lines properly.

Changes:
*Added support for 15 team conference tourneys.

Thanks Brian!

I'm sure someone has brought this up before but is there any way possible to have a smaller roster size than the 15 that the game defaults? When I import a 12 man Kentucky roster, the game auto generates 3 more fictional players. Any workaround for that?

[Marmel]

Is there an official, or does anybody have one that they made, conference alignment and updated prestige file?

[HeavyReign]

Originally Posted by dave731

Thanks Brian!

I'm sure someone has brought this up before but is there any way possible to have a smaller roster size than the 15 that the game defaults? When I import a 12 man Kentucky roster, the game auto generates 3 more fictional players. Any workaround for that?

There is no way to prevent that currently in the game as far as I can recall.

[Young Drachma]

Thanks again HR.

[Comey]

I'm going to attempt to mod the game for HS hoops soon...I figure it'll be pretty straight forward on the modifying of the database, but do you guys have any tips for me before I begin? I want to make sure I do this right from the get-go.

[Comey]

dola--

How many undefeated teams have you guys seen in your runs? I'm running a dynasty where players aren't allowed to declare early...this has created some rather amazing teams, and great rivalries. A few teams have gone into the NCAAs undefeated, only to lose.

However, Pitt, ten years into the run, managed to pull it off. And they beat the unquestioned #2 team in the country, UCLA, to do it. Their only real tests were at Nova (55-53, trailed most of the game), against 10-22 St. John's (78-77), and Rutgers in the first round of the BE tournament (63-58). They went 18-0 against the top 50, ranked sixth in points nationally, first in field goal percentage, and third nationally in defense and fourth in OPP FG%.

The most impressive thing...seven of their top nine are underclassman. They'll easily be #1 next season.

[murrayyyyy]

How hard would it be to have the HTML output put up your opponents record on the season schedule part of a teams page? Even if it was their current record it would be nice to look at your teams schedule to see how teams you played turn out during the season. I know there aren't that many online leagues but for the ones that exist it would be nice to click the team pages when you are suppose to be working without having to have the game open.

[HeavyReign]

Shouldn't be to difficult.

[CraigSca]

Recently installed a new SSD, so blew out all my old stuff. How do i find my license for FBCB? Just went through about 50 email searches and couldn't find reference to it (tried 'elicense', 'esellerate', etc.)

Any ideas where I could find my license?

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by Marmel

Is there an official, or does anybody have one that they made, conference alignment and updated prestige file?

anyone?

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Marmel

anyone?

I've got one in the works. It's a long, long process, as you might imagine (the updated prestige, that is).

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by britrock88

I've got one in the works. It's a long, long process, as you might imagine (the updated prestige, that is).

Can I help on the prestige part of it at all?

[britrock88]

Depends on how good you are at writing Excel formulas.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by britrock88

Depends on how good you are at writing Excel formulas.

Average, at best. I was thinking more along the lines of...you have formulas, but need real life data lookup and entry!

[britrock88]

It appears I've proceeded in the wrong order.

[Marmel]

Originally Posted by britrock88

It appears I've proceeded in the wrong order.

What would these formulas involve? Oh, and I have open office, not excel.

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by Marmel

What would these formulas involve? Oh, and I have open office, not excel.

For reference, here's HR's post about his formula:

Originally Posted by HeavyReign

Not sure if knowing pretty much how it works will make it that much easier to set new prestige but here we go. The original prestiges were set using a spreadsheet made by one of the beta testers. I have the spreadsheet he used but I'm not 100% sure what it takes to update it. As far as the in game calculations, prestige is a 10 year calculation weighted towards the most recent season. So the most recent season counts 100%, the previous season counts 90%, then 80% and so on. The total of these prestiges is then divided by 5.5.

Each season the team is assigned a prestige level based on how they did in the regular season in conference as well as how they did in the postseason. Points for the regular season depend on the prestige of your conference.

1: -5 to 35
2: 10 to 50
3: 20 to 60
4: 30 to 75
5: 45 to 85

While it isn't exact, first place in the conference gets you max points and last place gets you the minimum points in the range. If you win your conference tourney, the game will consider your team as no worse than the 3rd place finisher.

You then get bonus points depending on the round you advance to the post season. Championship tourney gives the following points by last round played:

1: 10 points and minimum of 55 total points.
2: 13 points and minimum of 70 total points.
3: 16 points and minimum of 80 total points.
4: 20 points and minimum of 85 total points.
5: 25 points and minimum of 90 total points.
6: 30 points and minimum of 100 total points.
7: 50 points and minimum of 125 total points.

Other tourneys give a much smaller bonus ranging from 1 to 15 points.

So, horizontally, the columns I have for a team in any given season are:

Conference Prestige - Conference Finish - Conference # of Teams - Conference Tourney Winner? (1/0) - Postseason Tournament (1 for NCAA, 2 for NIT, 3 for CBI/CIT) - Postseason Tournament Round

So the formulas would sync these data up with HR's results.

[britrock88]

If you're more willing to do data entry, though, I haven't filled the "Postseason Tournament" and "Postseason Tournament Round" columns yet (for '03-'12).

[whomario]

HR, i have a small issue with teams not spending their timeouts. I routinely finish games with the other team having 3 or 4 left. Occurs mostly in games where a team goes up big (20 or so) and then that leads stays the same with no big runs, but also happens in close games.
I know we earlier had an issue with teams being out of timeouts too early, seems that whatever you adjusted turned the issue to the other end of the spectrum.

Not a huge issue, but noticeable (especially if you try to coax big minutes out of guys with stamina issues )

[yeah826]

I just won the national championship this was kind of my swan song season I was going to retire my coach this season at age 76. I started this league in 1936 with no 3pts to going through 2 coaches 3 pt line and multiple national tournaments. I have to say this player below was one I had the most hope for ala maybe the next Lebron. Sadly his scoring never caught up with everything else and coming into his senior season I recruited a ball dominated SF Freshman who was projected to go top 5 in the draft. Sadly Guillory went undrafted. #55 PF Charles Guillory

6-7 - 242lbs - Senior

Boston College - S.S. Murphy High School - Mobile, AL

Attributes

INS

JPS

FT

3PS

HND

PAS

ORB

DRB

PSD

PRD

STL

BLK

PF

QKN

STR

JMP

STA

Current:

B+

C

B+

D+

B

B+

A-

A+

C

F+

C

A

A

C

A

C+

A-

Potential:

B

C

B

D

B

B

B

A

C

F

C

A

Scholarship:

Yes

Health:

Good

Status:

Active Roster

Season Averages
Season	G	GS	MIN	PTS	ORB	DRB	AST	TO	A/T	STL	BLK	PF	FG%	FT%	3P%	PPS	+/-
2016	33	0	19.7	4.8	1.8	4.8	1.1	0.9	1.19	0.4	1.0	1.8	.438	.759	.297	1.31	5.27
2017	33	33	23.5	5.2	2.1	5.5	2.9	1.1	2.69	0.8	0.9	2.0	.387	.721	.261	1.15	11.79
2018	34	34	29.7	11.6	3.3	6.3	4.0	1.6	2.57	1.1	2.4	2.5	.478	.723	.304	1.25	19.32
2019	31	31	28.8	8.3	2.2	7.6	3.7	1.7	2.19	0.5	2.7	2.3	.462	.702	.294	1.23	11.26
Career	131	98	25.4	7.5	2.4	6.0	2.9	1.3	2.23	0.7	1.7	2.2	.450	.723	.290	1.24	11.98

Season Totals
Season	G	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FTM	FTA	3PM	3PA	PTS	OREB	REB	AST	STL	TO	STL	BLK	PF	+/-
2016	33	0	651	53	121	41	54	11	37	158	61	218	37	13	31	13	32	61	174
2017	33	33	776	58	150	44	61	12	46	172	68	250	97	26	36	26	31	67	389
2018	34	34	1011	151	316	73	101	21	69	396	112	325	136	37	53	37	80	85	657
2019	31	31	892	96	208	59	84	5	17	256	68	305	114	17	52	17	83	70	349
Career	131	98	3330	358	795	217	300	49	169	982	309	1098	384	93	172	93	226	283	1569

Statistical Highs
Type	Pts	Oreb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	Fgm	Fga	Ftm	Fta	3pm	3pa
Season	23	5	16	12	2	8	5	9	14	8	10	1	2
Career	23	7	16	12	3	8	5	9	15	8	10	3	5

Awards & Achievements
Season	Award
All	Player of the game: 12
2015	High School: Rated ***** and #1 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
2015	High School: All-State (Alabama)
2015	High School: Mr. Basketball (Alabama)
2016	Freshman All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2017	1st Team All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2018	1st Team All-American
2018	1st Team All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2018	Conference Player of the Year (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2019	NCAA Champion
2019	3rd Team All-American
2019	2nd Team All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)

[yeah826]

Here is the freshman for reference and he got drafted 4th in the draft

#51 SF Wade Warren

6-3 - 198lbs - Freshman

Boston College - Mckinley High School - Niles, OH

Attributes

INS

JPS

FT

3PS

HND

PAS

ORB

DRB

PSD

PRD

STL

BLK

PF

QKN

STR

JMP

STA

Current:

A

A

B+

C

C

C-

D

C-

D-

D

C+

C

A-

B

C

B-

B+

Potential:

A

A

A

B

C

C

D

C

D

D

B

B

Scholarship:

Yes

Health:

Good

Status:

Active Roster

Notes:

Declared for draft

Season Averages
Season	G	GS	MIN	PTS	ORB	DRB	AST	TO	A/T	STL	BLK	PF	FG%	FT%	3P%	PPS	+/-
2019	39	39	27.2	20.0	1.0	3.4	2.4	2.7	0.91	1.4	0.2	2.9	.438	.761	.380	1.17	10.08
Career	39	39	27.2	20.0	1.0	3.4	2.4	2.7	0.91	1.4	0.2	2.9	.438	.761	.380	1.17	10.08

Season Totals
Season	G	GS	MIN	FGM	FGA	FTM	FTA	3PM	3PA	PTS	OREB	REB	AST	STL	TO	STL	BLK	PF	+/-
2019	39	39	1060	291	665	124	163	73	192	779	39	171	95	56	104	56	8	113	393
Career	39	39	1060	291	665	124	163	73	192	779	39	171	95	56	104	56	8	113	393

Statistical Highs
Type	Pts	Oreb	Reb	Ast	Stl	Blk	TO	Fgm	Fga	Ftm	Fta	3pm	3pa
Season	42	3	11	6	4	2	7	16	29	8	12	7	12
Career	42	3	11	6	4	2	7	16	29	8	12	7	12

Awards & Achievements
Season	Award
All	Player of the game: 9
2018	High School: Rated ***** and #20 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
2018	High School: All-State (Ohio)
2019	NCAA Champion
2019	Freshman All-American
2019	1st Team All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2019	Freshman All-Conference (Atlantic Coast Conference)
2019	Conference Freshman of the Year (Atlantic Coast Conference)

[whomario]

I was just about to come here and rave about the different sort of players you get and how you can use them and my main example is a PF very similar to yours and was actually the main reason why i took the job (came after his redshirt-injury year) :

 PLAYER DETAILS

 #11 PF Frank Greco - California - Senior
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Height:       6-8
 Weight:       228
 High School:  Eureka Senior High School
 Hometown:     Eureka, CA
 
 Attributes:
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 Type       INS JPS FTS 3PS HND PAS ORB DRB PSD PRD STL BLK QKN STR JMP STA    
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Current:    15  11  11  11  16  17  12  10  16   7   7  19  11  19  14  17    
    2020:    15  10  10  11  15  17  12   9  16   6   7  19  11  18  13  15    
    2019:    15   8   9  10  13  15  11   9  15   6   6  18  10  17  13  13    
    2018:    14   7   8  10  12  14  10   9  13   6   6  16  10  16  12  12    
    2017:    13   6   8   9  11  13  10   8  12   6   6  14  10  15  12   4    
    2016:    12   6   8   9  10  12   9   8  10   5   6  12  10  13  12   0    
 Potential:   B   C   C   C   B   B   C   C   B   D   D   A                

 Health:      Good                                           
 Scholarship: Yes
 Status:      Active Roster                                  
 Academics:   17
 
 Stat Averages:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS  ORE  REB  AST   TO   A/T  STL  BLK   PF
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2017   7   7 18.4  3.7  1.9  4.0  0.6  0.6  1.00  0.1  0.3  2.6
   2018  33  33 27.3  5.6  1.8  6.5  1.9  1.5  1.33  0.3  1.6  2.6
   2019  33  32 28.9  7.5  2.1  7.7  2.7  1.4  1.87  0.4  2.4  2.0
   2020  38  38 30.3  8.3  2.3  7.4  3.5  1.1  3.12  0.5  2.6  2.6
   2021  26  26 29.8 10.7  2.0  7.0  3.9  0.9  4.21  0.5  2.4  2.2
 Career 137 136 28.5  7.7  2.1  7.0  2.9  1.2  4.21  0.4  2.2  2.4

 Shooting Averages:
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 Season  FGM  FGA   FG%  FTM  FTA   FT%  3PM  3PA   3P%  PPS   +/-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2017  1.6  2.7  .579  0.4  0.7  .600  0.1  0.3  .500 1.37  2.71
   2018  1.8  5.4  .330  1.8  2.5  .711  0.3  1.6  .173 1.04  2.27
   2019  2.5  6.2  .407  2.0  3.2  .607  0.5  1.8  .250 1.21  8.82
   2020  2.9  6.4  .463  1.9  2.4  .772  0.5  1.4  .352 1.30 10.66
   2021  4.0  7.1  .557  2.3  3.3  .706  0.5  1.5  .342 1.51 18.50
 Career  2.7  6.1  .444  1.9  2.7  .694  0.4  1.5  .277 1.27  9.28
 
 Stat Totals:
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 Season   G  GS  MIN  PTS OREB  REB  AST   TO  STL  BLK   PF
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2017   7   7  129   26   13   28    4    4    1    2   18
   2018  33  33  901  186   60  214   64   48   11   54   87
   2019  33  32  954  246   70  253   88   47   12   80   67
   2020  38  38 1151  314   88  280  134   43   19   99   98
   2021  26  26  776  279   53  182  101   24   13   63   56
 Career 137 136 3911 1051  284  957  391  166   56  298  326

 Shooting Totals
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 Season  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA  +/-
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2017   11   19    3    5    1    2   19
   2018   59  179   59   83    9   52   75
   2019   83  204   65  107   15   60  291
   2020  112  242   71   92   19   54  405
   2021  103  185   60   85   13   38  481
 Career  368  829  258  372   57  206 1271
 
 Career Highs:
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 Type      Pts OReb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   TO  FGM  FGA  FTM  FTA  3PM  3PA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Season     21    6   11    8    2    8    3   10   12    5    8    3    4
 Career     21    6   15    8    4    9    5   10   12    9   10    3    5
 
 Awards & Acheivements:
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 Season   Award
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 All      Player of the Game: 16
 2016     High School: Rated ***** and #13 overall by the FBCB scouting service.
 2018     Freshman All-Conference (Pacific-10 Conference)

I took over the team after his freshman season (he aparently got an injury redshirt. And him not making All League teams is kind of understandable, as UCLA and Stanford both featured 20/10 guys at PF the last 2 seasons.

I have him as a go-to guy btw, i absolutely love that the game actually does give him touches without having him take a ton of shots. I only have him and a 5´11 scorer/shooter SG/PG set as go to guys and surrounded them with a bunch of shooters and a kick ass pass-first PG.
With my main scorer Stine (20+ PPG) now out for a month (due back right around the NCAA tournament) it´ll be a nice little experiment on how good an offense can run with a Point Forward at it´s hub. First game without Stine he scored just 5 points, but had 9 boards, 8 assists and 8 blocks.

Here´s my team :

#4 CALIFORNIA  Averages

 Player              Pos  GP  GS   Min   Pts  Orb  Reb  Ast  Stl  Blk   To  Fls   +/-
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 Mervin Stines        SG  25  25  30.1  21.7  0.6  5.1  2.5  1.2  0.0  2.1  2.1  15.9
 Frank Greco          PF  26  26  29.8  10.7  2.0  7.0  3.9  0.5  2.4  0.9  2.2  18.5
 Werner Meyers        SF  26   1  18.8   9.3  0.7  1.8  1.5  0.6  0.0  1.6  2.4   7.1
 Joshua Plumb         SF  26  26  17.6   8.7  0.8  2.2  1.2  0.7  0.0  1.1  1.7  11.4
 James Absher          C  26  25  25.4   8.0  1.6  6.5  0.9  0.2  1.4  1.2  2.8  11.1
 Edgard Fran          SG  25   0  14.6   7.7  0.4  1.4  1.6  0.4  0.0  1.2  1.6   3.3
 Charles Angus        PG  26  26  27.1   7.6  0.7  2.0  6.9  1.8  0.2  2.1  1.7  15.7
 Neville Dees         SG  26   0   7.2   4.3  0.2  0.8  0.7  0.2  0.0  0.3  0.6   0.8
 Justin Brown          C  26   1  15.5   3.9  1.3  5.1  0.6  0.3  0.3  0.8  2.0   6.0
 Klaas Hartlein       SF  21   0   5.8   3.3  0.3  1.2  0.5  0.1  0.0  0.3  0.7   0.8
 Jasper Hinrichs      PF  25   0   7.9   1.3  0.3  2.2  0.3  0.3  0.3  0.4  0.8   0.0
 Philip Callender     SF  16   0   3.4   0.7  0.3  0.9  0.1  0.3  0.0  0.3  0.2  -0.3
 Armand Spangler      SF   7   0   2.7   0.3  0.0  1.1  0.3  0.0  0.0  0.1  0.3  -1.3
 Waylon Vernon         C   1   0   2.0   0.0  0.0  1.0  1.0  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0   3.0

#4 CALIFORNIA  Shooting

 Player              Pos  Fgm  Fga   Fg%  Ftm  Fta    Ft%  3pm  3pa   3p%   PPS  +/-
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 Werner Meyers        SF   84  138  .609   25   39   .641   49   92  .533  1.75     
 Neville Dees         SG   37   70  .529   12   14   .857   26   51  .510  1.60     
 Mervin Stines        SG  191  385  .496   67   83   .807   93  200  .465  1.41     
 Klaas Hartlein       SF   22   52  .423   16   25   .640    9   20  .450  1.33     
 Joshua Plumb         SF   80  173  .462   20   31   .645   47  116  .405  1.31     
 Edgard Fran          SG   66  154  .429   26   39   .667   35   89  .393  1.25     
 Charles Angus        PG   67  127  .528   41   59   .695   22   59  .373  1.55     
 Frank Greco          PF  103  185  .557   60   85   .706   13   38  .342  1.51     
 Philip Callender     SF    4   10  .400    2    5   .400    1    5  .200  1.10     
 James Absher          C   90  173  .520   29   59   .492    0    1  .000  1.21     
 Armand Spangler      SF    0    1  .000    2    2  1.000    0    1  .000  2.00     
 Justin Brown          C   42   71  .592   17   31   .548    0    0  .000  1.42     
 Jasper Hinrichs      PF   11   24  .458   11   15   .733    0    0  .000  1.38     
 Waylon Vernon         C    0    0  .000    0    0   .000    0    0  .000  0.00     

[yeah826]

I always get excited if I get the oppurtunity to play with a Point Forward they are so rare yet so satisfying to play with because they can do so many things.

[britrock88]

After oodles of data entry, I got sick of trying to reproduce HR's prestige formula. I went and grabbed the last 10 years' worth of Pythagorean records from KenPom and weighted them, with good results. I updated teams and conferences. I'm going to bed for tonight, but will play-test this set-up as soon as I have time to kill at home again and, if all goes well, will publish it thereafter.

[cadmus2166]

Originally Posted by britrock88

After oodles of data entry, I got sick of trying to reproduce HR's prestige formula. I went and grabbed the last 10 years' worth of Pythagorean records from KenPom and weighted them, with good results. I updated teams and conferences. I'm going to bed for tonight, but will play-test this set-up as soon as I have time to kill at home again and, if all goes well, will publish it thereafter.

Awesome!! I attempted to to reproduce HR's prestige formula as well, and after doing a couple of conferences, I didn't really feel the results were all that accurate (probably my interpretation of how many points a team should receive within their conference prestige range). If your method works, please do publish, and know that your hard work will be much appreciated!!

[britrock88]

Originally Posted by britrock88

After oodles of data entry, I got sick of trying to reproduce HR's prestige formula. I went and grabbed the last 10 years' worth of Pythagorean records from KenPom and weighted them, with good results. I updated teams and conferences. I'm going to bed for tonight, but will play-test this set-up as soon as I have time to kill at home again and, if all goes well, will publish it thereafter.

Okey doke. After a rigorous [s]1 season[/s] 4 seasons of play-testing, this set-up appears RTE-free. It's the confirmed 2014 alignment of teams, with updated team prestige calculated as described above (and conference prestige tweaks as I saw fit). Looks like Fordham and TCU are your best challenges.

Enjoy! Let me know if you run into stuff.