The Trump Presidency – 2016

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I can't believe we're still on this Hydroxy shit.

This literally came up in my Facebook feed today.

I learned something interesting yesterday. if all the people that are vulnerable to the coronavirus would take hydroxy Clora Quinn, they would no longer be vulnerable to it and would not be able to get it or even transmit it to anyone else. The panel of nine doctors that I was listening to also said that if everyone that needed to would use it, this whole Covid crisis would be gone in 30 days.

If anyone is interested in the link to this podcast, let me know and I will message it to you.

[albionmoonlight]

You'll never guess what 39% of Americans think.

They think that the increase in American COVID cases does not reflect an increase in coronavirus, but instead reflects that "we are testing more."

(In all honestly, you probably would have had a pretty easy time guessing that).

[PilotMan]

The replies to that post are as follows:

Yes, I’d like the link ��
I don’t understand why a drug already in use for , how long, would be considered dangerous while a new , quickly made vaccine should be considered safe ??? It makes no sense to me.

Be careful, FB will block you. They haven't blocked me but they informed me that I posted false information.

It seems that the drug mentioned needs a prescription, friends are buying quinine and using that. Friends and I have seen evidence that taking vitamin c and d and zinc make symptoms very light or almost nothing. This is easy to fight naturally, if you are familiar with natural remedies.

Which had a reply of:

I personally believe in having strong immunity and using natural remedies, but many people don’t go that way. So for those that do not consider natural remedies this is a pretty good option that would do away with all this junk that is going on with closings of businesses. No masks would then be needed. Of course. I am not a mask supporter either.

You might consider email. Facebook is cracking down on accounts speading "False" information. I suspect it will affect Messenger before long. I have probably seen it. But could you email link to ****?

Unfortunately here in America, doctors are being arrested if they use this drug. Some are being fired by speaking out. Others are just following protocol that they are being told and not using it. It's so sad to witness it all when there are so many scientific evidence that it works ��

I likely have seen it. I can prescribe it here in Ohio. Please sent me the link to: ***** oh and BTW keepin passing meaaages like this along.

I just shake my head.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by Lathum

This may deserve its own thread but man I hope the NRA goes
down hard.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...f-dealing.html

Me too. And very predictable already from Trump and Repubs-Dems are going to take away your guns!

[Autumn]

I see so much of that in some people I know too. I can't imagine having a mindset that with 1,000 people dying a day, doctors wouldn't know that vitamin C cures you, or would withhold this information if they did. There is such paranoia in the American mindset.

Also specifically frustrating to me because both of my sisters have lupus and don't need people gobbling up the supplies of a drug they need.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/ohio...ronavirus.html

Oh no, a visit to Whirlpool. Brace yourself for more shower/toilet/dishwasher talk.

[Thomkal]

Trump on his way to Ohio, and probably should not meet with Governor DeWine...because he has tested Positive for the Coronavirus. Thankfully with no symptoms so far.

[JPhillips]

Trump 2020: Because Joe Biden is Stronger than God

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Trump on his way to Ohio, and probably should not meet with Governor DeWine...because he has tested Positive for the Coronavirus. Thankfully with no symptoms so far.

DeWine probably just doesn't want to talk to Trump. The day after Trump leaves Ohio DeWine will announce that it was a false positive result.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

DeWine probably just doesn't want to talk to Trump. The day after Trump leaves Ohio DeWine will announce that it was a false positive result.

Heh wouldn't surprise me. And I don't think playing Live and Let Die was appropriate either...

[Ksyrup]

Well... DeWine played that almost to perfection.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

DeWine probably just doesn't want to talk to Trump. The day after Trump leaves Ohio DeWine will announce that it was a false positive result.

Nailed it

[Thomkal]

Nicely played Governor.

[albionmoonlight]

It's Mike DeWine's world. We all just live in it.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Over a million in new jobless claims. Thought the lazy people were all going back to work now that the $600 a week ended?

Well the unemployment rate did fall.

U.S. unemployment rate fell to 10.2 percent in July - POLITICO

[ISiddiqui]

… in July, before the $600 additional unemployment funds were exhausted.

Almost like people were full of shit saying the additional unemployment was preventing people from looking for work.

[NobodyHere]

Or people on that $600 knew it was coming to an end and decided to look for work.

[ISiddiqui]

I guess if you want to spin it in a way that screws over poor people you can... ignoring that unemployment also fell in June.

FWIW:

The economy also added 1.8 million jobs in July, the department said, a slowdown from a 4.8 million gain in June.

[GrantDawg]

So, when Trump enacts by executive order an increase on unemployment, a hold on student loans interest and payments, and a suspension of payroll taxes, will that be a big win for him?

[NobodyHere]

How much of that is actually in Trump's power? I would think congress at least would have to allocate money for the unemployment increase.

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

So, when Trump enacts by executive order an increase on unemployment, a hold on student loans interest and payments, and a suspension of payroll taxes, will that be a big win for him?

Not if Ted Cruz has anything to say about it!

Which clause of the Constitution gives a President the authority to give away a trillion $ w/o Congress? And if you like this policy, how would you feel if/when a GOP president does it for something you don’t like? Here’s a better idea: follow the Const & don’t be a dictator. https://t.co/HT5pTEXxGp

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) January 14, 2020

[sterlingice]

So he'll strongly disagree with it and then totally roll over and praise it in a couple of years?

SI

[Ksyrup]

More like he'll yell at Elizabeth Warren for proposing something just like it back in January and then defend Trump doing it now.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Or people on that $600 knew it was coming to an end and decided to look for work.

What about the 30 million unemployed? Lazy and don't understand that the $600 is gone?

[JPhillips]

Mnuchin says they will advise Trump to use an executive order to deal with student loans, eviction moratoriums, and jobless benefits.

And you can expect nary a peep from the small-government, Constitution loving GOP electeds.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Mnuchin says they will advise Trump to use an executive order to deal with student loans, eviction moratoriums, and jobless benefits.

And you can expect nary a peep from the small-government, Constitution loving GOP electeds.

So nice that all these precedents are being flushed out for the next time it's used.

[Thomkal]

Falwell has been asked to take an indefinite leave of absence from Liberty University.

[PilotMan]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

Falwell has been asked to take an indefinite leave of absence from Linerty University.

So in football terms, he's gone for at least the rest of the season, and he'll be back before preseason starts next year. But we're not actually going to say that part out loud right now. But when he does come back he will say that he's really sorry for all the embarrassment, and he knows that it hurt people and caused problems. Then about a week later, he'll be right back in the game with no history and no regrets.

[Ksyrup]

He'll still have his Miami pool boy though.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

So in football terms, he's gone for at least the rest of the season, and he'll be back before preseason starts next year. But we're not actually going to say that part out loud right now. But when he does come back he will say that he's really sorry for all the embarrassment, and he knows that it hurt people and caused problems. Then about a week later, he'll be right back in the game with no history and no regrets.

Pretty much

[JPhillips]

Big news: Trump said he's going to sign an executive order mandating insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions.

Thanks, Obama.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Mnuchin says they will advise Trump to use an executive order to deal with student loans, eviction moratoriums, and jobless benefits.

And you can expect nary a peep from the small-government, Constitution loving GOP electeds.

What is the point of Congress if the President can just do all this stuff with executive order?

[JPhillips]

To be fair, both parties have spent decades working towards a system where Congress isn't responsible for anything and can complain about whatever happens.

But, yeah, if this kind of shit isn't unconstitutional, we might as well make him a king and at least enjoy the pageantry.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Big news: Trump said he's going to sign an executive order mandating insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions.

Thanks, Obama.

So he's going to have his DOJ cease it's efforts to gut preexisting conditions at the Supreme Court?

Didn't think so.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

What about the 30 million unemployed? Lazy and don't understand that the $600 is gone?

I don't remember ever making the claim that all unemployment was because of the $600 payments.

[Brian Swartz]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

if this kind of shit isn't unconstitutional, we might as well make him a king and at least enjoy the pageantry.

That's me too. The trend towards this goes back at least to the 70s as you mention, but yeah. This is one thing that Marx wasn't wrong about.

[Qwikshot]

Orange Gump just signed an executive order to kill Social Security and Medicare.

GOP - Cult of Death

[JPhillips]

Great decision by President @realDonaldTrump to use executive orders to continue the federal unemployment supplement at the $400 level. https://t.co/Xlh768cB0B

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2020

[JPhillips]

I'm not sure we get out of this. One party openly sheering the authoritarian takeover might be enough to let it happen.

And Politico is reporting that Trump is considering an executive order stopping the Post Office from delivering any ballots.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Great decision by President @realDonaldTrump to use executive orders to continue the federal unemployment supplement at the $400 level. https://t.co/Xlh768cB0B

— Lindsey Graham (@LindseyGrahamSC) August 8, 2020

Cept states have to kick in 25%, not all of them will.

I hope this is legally contested

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm not sure we get out of this. One party openly sheering the authoritarian takeover might be enough to let it happen.

And Politico is reporting that Trump is considering an executive order stopping the Post Office from delivering any ballots.

Told you he was stealing it. He wants to be president for life.

None of this is legal.

[ISiddiqui]

Yeah, it's going to be interesting when he tries to Executive Order an entire stimulus bill. Because that seems like what he's doing to try to do. And Mitch will let him completely bypass Congress.

Oh and in order to pay for this, the rumor is the administration is going to take money from FEMA's budget... Just as we enter into hurricane season.

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[Ryche]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

I'm not sure we get out of this. One party openly sheering the authoritarian takeover might be enough to let it happen.

And Politico is reporting that Trump is considering an executive order stopping the Post Office from delivering any ballots.

So no absentee? That would probably hurt him more than help.

[thesloppy]

How is stopping the Post Office from delivering ballots supposed to fly in those states that are already entirely vote by mail?

[albionmoonlight]

Politically smart.

The executive orders are ferociously illegal. But the courts cannot just say that on a dime. His lawyers know how to keep things delayed for as long as needed.

So it is a bunch of shit that won’t do any good. But it sounds good to voters. And people will be suing Trump to stop him from doing the good thing.

He’s so stupid, that he might still fuck this up. But, honestly, as a cynical political play for a guy who’s down nine points in the polls? Pretty brilliant.

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Politically smart.

The executive orders are ferociously illegal. But the courts cannot just say that on a dime. His lawyers know how to keep things delayed for as long as needed.

So it is a bunch of shit that won’t do any good. But it sounds good to voters. And people will be suing Trump to stop him from doing the good thing.

He’s so stupid, that he might still fuck this up. But, honestly, as a cynical political play for a guy who’s down nine points in the polls? Pretty brilliant.

How? It’s not going to happen, people still need aid and won’t get it. Plus if the courts play along you defund social security and Medicare.

It’s the stupidest thing yet. I was annoyed because he kept saying he was signing bills(they’re not bills).

It helps no one and does nothing. More people are still are still dying and going to be evicted and more cases are coming big when the schools open.

[JPhillips]

Yeah, I think he's opened himself up to charges of destroying Social Security, and that's poison electorally.

But, TBH, I'm less interested in the electoral issues than I am the accelerating slide into authoritarianism. The way the GOP is lining up behind these orders is really terrifying.

[Brian Swartz]

Every nation falls eventually. I didn't think it would happen here in my lifetime, but I might have been wrong about that.

[GrantDawg]

He is so stealing this election. I don't think there is anyway of stopping it.

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[Brian Swartz]

He's clearly going to try, but I don't see any evidence that there's much chance of it succeeding.