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Old 02-27-2015, 09:32 AM   #2651
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I... am willing to continue as part of the police force.

Let me be honest and air some dissatisfaction with the state of martial law that we are still in. I have learned through past experience that the law, when unchecked, may run amok. I hoped there would be no occasion for the same here on Mars. And, to this point, you have exhibited what I would characterize as a heavier hand than appropriate with a few of our fellow colonists.

That said, I still hold the opinion that your intentions are to benefit the group. Further, timmae and font, two of our fellows in whom I have the most confidence, are ardent supporters of your leadership. So I am motivated to continue in service to our fledgling government in the hopes that it will be the ideal tool to ensure the prosperity of our new lives on Mars.

I'm looking back through the thread, particularly at those with Great physical ability to see who is most likely to oppose our government. Britrock was not confrontational but makes clear here that he is not a fan of martial law, and he has the physical ability to deal with JAG.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:35 AM   #2652
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Well lets get the ball rolling here and see what happens.

Thom, you and I may need to have a chat this evening. So in light of that you have a couple options.

1. You can throw me in jail, and look very suspicious
2. You can explain why you are voting against Zinto for speaking out against you, and help me understand why I feel like I was intentionally blocked from interrogating him last night.
3. You can let me visit you this evening and when I end up dead you will also look suspicious
4. You can book your stay in the medical center now

You now know my intentions, what you do should speak volumes for the rest of the colony.

Shoveler is another colonist with the ability to take out JAG. he has been forthright in his concerns about Thomkal's government.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:37 AM   #2653
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For the time being I am willing to play along. But I am not under the employment of the sheriff's department. Consider me a contract worker. If I disagree with your course of action I will not cooperate.

Shoveler is clearly someone with an independent mind.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:37 AM   #2654
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So we vote someone, and then Thomkal gets to decide if that person is innocent or guilty, and then we vote on a punishment?

Did we wake up in North Korea?

And is not a fan of martial law.
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Old 02-27-2015, 09:42 AM   #2655
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I am currently assuming everyone told the truth about their physical abilities. I think that is a reasonable assumption because I don't think our current revolutionaries had any reason to think they would be in this position before Thomkal took over, and so had no reason to be wary.

With that said only Shoveler and Britrock appear to have the strength to take on JAG, other than Thomkal himself. Zinto, GoldenEagle and NTN do not have physical abilities listed, so they are secondary suspects, but I don't see much reason to expect one of them is very strong.

So my choice for now is between Brit and Shoveler. The fact that Chief and JAG were targeted may suggest a veteran like Britrock. However, it may be that the revolution was simply targeting those in leadership positions. Chief was our chief doctor, and JAG was on the police force. So I think it could be either of these two. for now ...

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Old 02-27-2015, 09:46 AM   #2656
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I am currently assuming everyone told the truth about their physical abilities. I think that is a reasonable assumption because I don't think our current revolutionaries had any reason to think they would be in this position before Thomkal took over, and so had no reason to be wary.

With that said only Shoveler and Britrock appear to have the strength to take on JAG, other than Thomkal himself. Zinto, GoldenEagle and NTN do not have physical abilities listed, so they are secondary suspects, but I don't see much reason to expect one of them is very strong.

So my choice for now is between Brit and Shoveler. The fact that Chief and JAG were targeted may suggest a veteran like Britrock. However, it may be that the revolution was simply targeting those in leadership positions. Chief was our chief doctor, and JAG was on the police force. So I think it could be either of these two. for now ...

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Don't forget that there is a gun in play. Physical skill is probably a moot point if you have the gun in your possession.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:29 AM   #2657
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Update for Day 8 decisions..

FontisianSOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (AVERAGE), MEDICAL (AVERAGE), PHYSICAL (AVERAGE), college history professor
DanGarionSOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BELOW AVERAGE), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (AWFUL) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - SOCIAL (GREAT), CEO
Suicane - PHYSICAL (GOOD), retired politician with history of public service, forced out due to bribery???
CrimsonfoxSOCIAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) , SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE) , automechanic,
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST)SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type", blogger, charged with identity theft
RavenSCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
NarcizoSCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (OK), MEDICAL (OK) PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility, drug dealer?
SharkN20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills, insurance fraud
GoldenEagleSCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GREAT)computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
AutumnMEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general, resigned due to scandal
ntndeaconMEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrockPHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD), (MEDICAL) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (LEADER)SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE)retired Army general. primary concerns safety, questionable resignation.
shoveler - PHYSICAL (GREAT)Construction, mafia hitman
TheJackalENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER)ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), PHYSICAL (AVERAGE) 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldanaENGINEERING (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), pHYSICAL (AVERAGE), MEDICAL (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD) city planner

Murderer is a coward?
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:33 AM   #2658
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EF said everyone has a past... the following list did not provide any indication of questionable histories.

Font, DG, Zinto, CF, Raven, GE, ntn, brit, jackal, grover, saldana.

They may not have shady histories but we should track accordingly.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:34 AM   #2659
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Thought for the group... could the wolves be those that did not vote for Thom? How many were there that voted Font? Just throwing things out there.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:46 AM   #2660
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That's a really good point, Timmae, and I think possibly right on. I had forgotten that when voting I had considered that likelihood. It's part of why I voted Thomkal despite my reservations, I figured there would be effects of the vote. Looking at that day to see how people likely voted is a good idea.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:52 AM   #2661
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EF said everyone has a past... the following list did not provide any indication of questionable histories.

Font, DG, Zinto, CF, Raven, GE, ntn, brit, jackal, grover, saldana.

They may not have shady histories but we should track accordingly.

I have. My time as a policeman ended when I was accused of using excessive force.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:53 AM   #2662
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:54 AM   #2663
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:57 AM   #2664
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Oh, hey, there's a vote lost on CF in yesterday's tally.

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GoldenEagle 10 - timmae (2367), The Jackal (2402), Shoveler (2409), Grover (2444), ntndeacon (2453), Suicane75 (2487), CrimsonFox (2528), Thomkal (2554), britrock88 (2563), saldana (2565)
CrimsonFox 5 - Narcizo (2267), sharkn20 (2349), DanGarion (2417), Autumn (2448), Zinto (2459), GoldenEagle (2513)
DanGarion 3 - fontisian (2438), Chief Rum (2455), JAG (2458)
fontisian 1 - Raven (2317)

Narcizo, Shark, DanG, Autumn, Zinto, and GE are the 6 voters.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:59 AM   #2665
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Oh, hey, there's a vote lost on CF in yesterday's tally.

Narcizo, Shark, DanG, Autumn, Zinto, and GE are the 6 voters.

Excellent find. How can we use this to our advantage though?
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:05 AM   #2666
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Oh, hey, there's a vote lost on CF in yesterday's tally.



Narcizo, Shark, DanG, Autumn, Zinto, and GE are the 6 voters.

Saboteur or insomnia. You decide...
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:17 AM   #2667
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Chief was probably easy to kill.

Screw you, Autumn!!

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Old 02-27-2015, 11:28 AM   #2668
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Oh, hey, there's a vote lost on CF in yesterday's tally.



Narcizo, Shark, DanG, Autumn, Zinto, and GE are the 6 voters.


I didn't have a vote. I was in jail.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:29 AM   #2669
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Also, I woke up last night with the flu so I will be not around more than around today because I am going to sleep as much as I can.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:33 AM   #2670
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The flu? He could infect the entire colony! Lynch him before it spreads!
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:38 AM   #2671
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Don't forget that there is a gun in play. Physical skill is probably a moot point if you have the gun in your possession.

The gun could have been used in the last 2 murders... with the notes. Different murder pattern for sure.

I've been asking about that damn gun... who had it last?
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:38 AM   #2672
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The gun could have been used in the last 2 murders... with the notes. Different murder pattern for sure.

I've been asking about that damn gun... who had it last?

This seems to be a huge mystery. Obviously no one is willing to admit they would have the gun for fear they'll immediately be lynched.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:39 AM   #2673
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Also, I woke up last night with the flu so I will be not around more than around today because I am going to sleep as much as I can.

.... consulting "the list"... ummm...
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:49 AM   #2674
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The Gun was discovered Day 3. There is no discussion of who discovered it or how it was found. We do know that Font was the leader at the time. Maybe she knows more? Also, the following individuals were working on the task that day:

On Voted Action
britrock88
Suicane75
Thomkal
GoldenEagle
DanGarion
Raven
Shoveler
Zinto
CrimsonFox

Could one of them snuck off to search (i.e. be a searching role within the game)? The medical center was not completed due to lack of effort.

Chief didn't get 100% better. Was it due to not having the full team on him? Those caring for him that night:

Work on Chief Rum
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:12 PM   #2675
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Also, I woke up last night with the flu so I will be not around more than around today because I am going to sleep as much as I can.

Ugh. Feel better soon!
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:12 PM   #2676
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Also, what action are we proceeding with today? If we don't act are we just wasting a day and picking off another person with no real progress to show for it?

I would recommend we agree on voting as a group and then proceeding with the action as a group. If we have 10 separate actions we'll be sitting ducks... err... martians.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:20 PM   #2677
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The memorial for JAG and Chief Rum will be held tonight-attendance is mandatory. I caution those colonists going on exploring missions to make sure you have at least one partner you can trust-wouldn't want to see anymore "accidents"

I will be gone for a good chunk of the afternoon now "taking care of govt. business"
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:23 PM   #2678
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I had no idea we had been dropped off the middle of Mars' own Jonestown...
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:25 PM   #2679
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EF: Did we ever get to gather supplies? I believe we were in martial law the day we were supposed to. Can we gather supplies and then proceed with our offensive build on the next day?
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:31 PM   #2680
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EF: Did we ever get to gather supplies? I believe we were in martial law the day we were supposed to. Can we gather supplies and then proceed with our offensive build on the next day?

I thought we had collected the supplies before we were all poisoned/drugged/knocked out by our benevolent leaders on Earth
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:33 PM   #2681
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we voted to but then...
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:38 PM   #2682
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As we all know Jackal is ALWAYS a wolf.

Well, I can't argue that. I'm shocked it isn't on the list
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:42 PM   #2683
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I'm not sure GE should be discounted just because he had a duke ability, but I'm likely to look elsewhere at least today.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:44 PM   #2684
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Interesting that JAG and CR were 2 of 3 voting for Dan yesterday - someone trying to set him up?
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:50 PM   #2685
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In regards to my past, I did something that I'm not proud of - let's say my brain lost the chess game, if you get the Seinfeld reference. But it doesn't affect my engineering capabilities, which is all you need be concerned with.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:50 PM   #2686
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You have managed to gather the remainder of the supplies before the incident.

Playing catch up and trying to process everything that has happened overnight, but just wanted to clarify we have indeed completed the supply run.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:53 PM   #2687
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In regards to my past, I did something that I'm not proud of - let's say my brain lost the chess game, if you get the Seinfeld reference. But it doesn't affect my engineering capabilities, which is all you need be concerned with.

MIT Coeds? Who can blame you?
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:54 PM   #2688
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I didn't have a vote. I was in jail.

Perfect. Thanks for the reminder.

(Feel better. Hope you have time to get a vote in at some point.)
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:55 PM   #2689
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This seems to be a huge mystery. Obviously no one is willing to admit they would have the gun for fear they'll immediately be lynched.

Fair consideration. Would there be anyone that the group might be willing to openly possess the gun?

- Thomkal (he's the leader, but is he too powerful?)
- britrock (police force, but admittedly can be physically excessive)
- Shoveler (uses brawn to get information)

Just chewing it over.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:56 PM   #2690
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Interesting that JAG and CR were 2 of 3 voting for Dan yesterday - someone trying to set him up?

1. It's a set-up!
2. DanGarion controlled both NKs and lashed out at his voters!
3. There's no way it could have been a result of chance!
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:58 PM   #2691
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I caution those colonists going on exploring missions to make sure you have at least one partner you can trust-wouldn't want to see anymore "accidents"

Quadola:

We should pay some attention to this. I think I'm out by virtue of having Autumn treat me, but we should get people to cover some ground on the flatlands (the safest area). Figuring out where that gun is might be helpful in planning exploration groups.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:59 PM   #2692
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Fair consideration. Would there be anyone that the group might be willing to openly possess the gun?

- Thomkal (he's the leader, but is he too powerful?)
- britrock (police force, but admittedly can be physically excessive)
- Shoveler (uses brawn to get information)

Just chewing it over.

I don't think we have any sort of a COT (circle of trust, for new players)

I think we'd be more comfortable if someone who we're holding accountable for actions, etc, is in possession of it though. It might also make them a target for a NK, however, if the gun ends up being an extra kill for the bad guys.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:01 PM   #2693
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As for possible motives to last night's attacks... I recall rivalries among Thomkal, Shoveler, myself, and JAG, and between Autumn, ntndeacon (to a lesser extent), and Chief Rum during the period when we were all jockeying for leadership positions.

But among that group of people, (and leaving some shady backgrounds aside--don't we all have them?) everybody seems pretty pro-colony in the public discussion we've had in two weeks. So I'm struggling to identify suspects from that group.

Are we interested in following up on yesterday's set of lynch leaders?
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:08 PM   #2694
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Sorry. Yes you have supplies. You could return to building options when your issue (issues?) are resolved.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:08 PM   #2695
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Playing catch up and trying to process everything that has happened overnight, but just wanted to clarify we have indeed completed the supply run.

Much thanks... missed that.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:13 PM   #2696
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I know Zinto was in jail at some point yesterday, but when was he released or has he not yet been released?
Not sure if anyone can answer this directly other than EF?
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:14 PM   #2697
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As for possible motives to last night's attacks... I recall rivalries among Thomkal, Shoveler, myself, and JAG, and between Autumn, ntndeacon (to a lesser extent), and Chief Rum during the period when we were all jockeying for leadership positions.

But among that group of people, (and leaving some shady backgrounds aside--don't we all have them?) everybody seems pretty pro-colony in the public discussion we've had in two weeks. So I'm struggling to identify suspects from that group.

Are we interested in following up on yesterday's set of lynch leaders?

If golden was the duke I don't think I want to vote for him. Unless we REALLY think a good character went bad.
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:15 PM   #2698
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I really think shark gave himself away yesterday for me.

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Old 02-27-2015, 01:25 PM   #2699
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I really think shark gave himself away yesterday for me.

vote sharkn20

Golden Eagle´s and Dan Garion´s voters were murdered or injured during the night... Think about that guys For me an obvius try to distract the thinking of the colony, so probably the murdered would be in the top voters...

And this guy is trying to bully me again... And is Good in Physical so...

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I don´t like big brother shows so don´t try to involve me in your discussion



Anything that can we research?? And the "big" "bad" boys can go to the landscape to discover more map? Let´s try to solve this quickly and continue with the adventure!
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:40 PM   #2700
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yes shark you only come out nd point fingers at me when someone says your name, I get it.
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