Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread **Spoilers Possible**

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

If you get a chance to read TNA spoilers, I suggest not doing it. You may vomit.

hogan wins the title?

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hogan wins the title?

Based on the warning above I hunted down the spoilers and I can assure you that the reality of the spoilers is on a completely different level of stupidity.

[DaddyTorgo]

yeah me too

[SirFozzie]

File under: "I would have paid to see this..."

TNA Knockout Awesome Kong was sent home from the most recent set of tapings due to her attacking radio host and recent TNA signing Bubba the Love Sponge for insensitive comments he had made about the earthquake in Haiti.

Bubba had said on his twitter feed ""I say fuck hati. Why do we have to take care of everybody our country is in shambles. Bubba"

Needless to say, that enraged Awesome Kong, who had set up numerous fundraising efforts for Haiti.

Bubba and Awesome Kong were both sent home, and rumor has it that Bubba has been told that he's REALLY on the edge, and he may get fired no matter what he does in the situation from now on (he's already posted an apology)

[MikeVic]

So what are the TNA spoilers?

[SirFozzie]

Spoiler

Hogan gave Angle one more shot vs Styles and Styles won via Montreal Screwjob, where Angle spat on Hogan afterwords

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Bubba and Awesome Kong were both sent home, and rumor has it that Bubba has been told that he's REALLY on the edge, and he may get fired no matter what he does in the situation from now on (he's already posted an apology)

Then again, he also Twittered/posted that what he said was on his time, not Dixie's so it (paraphrasing here) wasn't really her business. And he called on his "army" to deluge TNA with messages to let them know (again paraphrasing but it's close) that he was bigger than they were.

That was before the sudden apology so I suspect his buddy Hogan told him he had to.

[molson]

The TNA spoiler is lame, but not catastrophic. I actually have much higher expectations in the entertaining train wreck department.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by molson

The TNA spoiler is lame, but not catastrophic. I actually have much higher expectations in the entertaining train wreck department.

Look at the list of who went over & I think we've got the train wreck part covered pretty well. "Entertaining" is a whole different story.

I think the one highlight from this week's taping has to be the crowd chant that made AJ laugh during his attempt at a heel promo.

Spoiler

They've got him trying to be Flair, Jr. so he can out with a woman on his arm. The crowd responds with a chant of "You Are Married"

[JonInMiddleGA]

Yep, about like I figured ...

TNA Wrestling News - Breaking EXCLUSIVE Update: Kong-Bubba Backstage Fight

AngryMarks.com has a report from today's Bubba The Love Sponge show. Hulk Hogan was a guest today, and they discussed the real reason Bubba was sent home, Awesome Kong apparently beat him up for the remarks he made in regards to Haiti. Here is what was said on the show�

Bubba: She was wearing wrestling gear, and she came in on me and sucker punched me right on my left cheeck, and I was like, what's going on... then she came out me again, hit me again in the mouth, and she goes, "This if for Haiti! This is for Haiti!" and I'm lke "What is going on?" Finally I put my left hand out and push her away from me, and she comes at me again and I just cover up, because I cannot fight back on a woman. Not only will I be fired from TNA, which I probably am, but my radio career is gone if I take a woman out!

Hulk Hogan: I tell you what, after what happened, if you had clocked her you'd have got away with it. What nobody knows, and this is the real truth, that there were certain people there... she should get off the property, she should be fired immediately, that's it. It was so violent. You could have actually lost an eye, you could have had your teeth knocked out. But, to give you your creedo, you are the one who said not to fire her.

[DaddyTorgo]

LMAO @ Hogan sticking up for his crony

[molson]

I have a bad feeling this is just an angle to setup Bubba v. Kong.

[Toddzilla]

Originally Posted by molson

I have a bad feeling this is just an angle to setup Bubba v. Kong.

+1

[dubb93]

Originally Posted by molson

The TNA spoiler is lame, but not catastrophic. I actually have much higher expectations in the entertaining train wreck department.

I disagree. I'm not sure lame is a strong enough word to describe the thought processes that went into this booking.

[DaddyTorgo]

ugh

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by molson

I have a bad feeling this is just an angle to setup Bubba v. Kong.

That actually sounds like a fun angle. I'd pay money to see that on PPV.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

That actually sounds like a fun angle. I'd pay money to see that on PPV.

FWIW, I'm seeing comments in some of the dirt sheets that the incident was "as real as it gets" and was actually far worse than what BtLS described this morning. Apparently they had problems restraining Kong.

Now the whole Borash-is-off-TV thing, that smells a lot like a worked shoot to me.

edit: Beside, even TPTB wouldn't actually try to do two worker-vs-media angles simultaneously would they? Remember, we've still got Jarrett vs Bonaduce coming up.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Dirt sheet says Alissa Flash aka Melissa Anderson aka Cheerleader Melissa has been granted her release from TNA as requested.

Reports started this afternoon that Kong has requested her release as well & rumors are starting to grow that a number of other release requests have been made as well, intensifying after the Kong/Bubba incident.

Earlier today Hogan called for the end of all house shows indefinitely & chuckled along suggesting that it was PMS as Bubba referred to Kong as a "bitch".

edit to add: Oh, btw, the latest episode quarter-hour ratings breakdown has been done. Highest rated segment of the night?
"The Beautiful People" against Awesome Kong and Hamada with the return of Angelina Love gained 100,000 viewers and did a 1.34 quarter, making it the highest rated segment on the show.

[SirFozzie]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey32

Not true. That spoiler is wrong. Correct Spoiler below.

Um, that's not what we got here in the US tonight.. we got the Montreal thing

[DeToxRox]

So uh, on the March 1st Raw, Cheech and Chong are going to host.

[Toddzilla]

I hate it when the writers try to be too clever, and the whole Montreal job from last night was a perfect example. Had it been done another way, it would have been very compelling and effective. Angle is promised one last shot at the title and Hogan engineers a screwjob, Angle blows his stack, now we have real drama. Trying to cram that into the framework of the Montreal Screwjob - especially since it's been done a thousand times - cheapend it.

[finkenst]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Look at the list of who went over & I think we've got the train wreck part covered pretty well. "Entertaining" is a whole different story.

I think the one highlight from this week's taping has to be the crowd chant that made AJ laugh during his attempt at a heel promo.

Spoiler

They've got him trying to be Flair, Jr. so he can out with a woman on his arm. The crowd responds with a chant of "You Are Married"

is there a youtube or similar video of this?

Also, since I don't have dish or directv, i did discover that ROH on HDNET are on youtube usually by thursday.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by finkenst

is there a youtube or similar video of this?

If there is I can't find it

[Terps]

Should be in this video, but I can't turn my speakers up since I'm at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnH5nhUUZI

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Terps

Should be in this video, but I can't turn my speakers up since I'm at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnH5nhUUZI

Unfortunately that's the edited version where they dubbed out the chant & his reaction. The video edit wasn't obvious to me but the audio edit seemed pretty obvious, there's a section where they dub an "A.J." chant in but it sounds hollow as well as out of place because it just suddenly emerges instead of hearing it build up.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Terps

Should be in this video, but I can't turn my speakers up since I'm at work:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMnH5nhUUZI

The crowd comes off as being incredibly apathetic in that video.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Matthean

The crowd comes off as being incredibly apathetic in that video.

That tends to happen when you tell the crowd to just sit there & be quiet before the show starts.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Noted dirt sheet The Wrestling Observer is reporting that Impact will move to Monday's permanently starting in March.

TNA Wrestling News - BREAKING NEWS: TNA Moving To Monday Nights Permanently

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Noted dirt sheet The Wrestling Observer is reporting that Impact will move to Monday's permanently starting in March.

TNA Wrestling News - BREAKING NEWS: TNA Moving To Monday Nights Permanently

Suicide for TNA but great for how blahhh wrestling has gotten. WWE will probably attempt to up their game now.

[Matthean]

To make up for the Sid vs. Hall match, I give you a 4-way title match from RoH.

[PilotMan]

WWE Star Chris Jericho Arrested in Kentucky | TMZ.com

WE wrestler Chris Jericho was arrested at a gas station in Kentucky early Wednesday morning after cops say he and a fellow wrestler were both "extremely intoxicated" in public.

Haha, this is only about 15 minutes from my house. It shouldn't be big news though, it is Kentucky after all.

[DaddyTorgo]

hahaha

[JonInMiddleGA]

Reading a longer version of the story, it sounds like Jericho, Helms, and Matt Hardy were all among the drunken occupants of a cab when Helms went off & hit at least three people before he & Hardy took off running to avoid police. While they were taking Jericho into custody Helms returned on foot & got locked up too, Hardy didn't bother coming back

[DeToxRox]

WrestleMania next year is going to be held in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome.

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Suicide for TNA but great for how blahhh wrestling has gotten. WWE will probably attempt to up their game now.

I don't think so. I think if TNA utilizes their young talent correctly they offer a better in ring product than WWE. The trick will be patience and they drew well last time they were live on Monday, so if they can maintain that and build slowly they should be fine.

I do agree competition is a good thing and it should make both products better.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by BYU 14

I don't think so. I think if TNA utilizes their young talent correctly they offer a better in ring product than WWE. The trick will be patience and they drew well last time they were live on Monday, so if they can maintain that and build slowly they should be fine.

I do agree competition is a good thing and it should make both products better.

hogan's there - the young talent won't get used correctly

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

hogan's there - the young talent won't get used correctly

Nor will the word "talent" mean what they think it means.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Suicide for TNA but great for how blahhh wrestling has gotten. WWE will probably attempt to up their game now.

I don't know if it's suicide. I'm guessing there aren't a ton of people tuning in to TNA Impact on its own. So moving it to Monday allows them to showcase themselves alongside the Raw telecast. Even if they get people just flipping over during commercial breaks and bad segments on Raw, it's tapping into a wrestling audience that is already sitting down for wrestling.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I don't know if it's suicide. I'm guessing there aren't a ton of people tuning in to TNA Impact on its own. So moving it to Monday allows them to showcase themselves alongside the Raw telecast. Even if they get people just flipping over during commercial breaks and bad segments on Raw, it's tapping into a wrestling audience that is already sitting down for wrestling.

Vince McMahon will take it as an insult and do his best to take them right now. TNA is rushing this move. They have to be able to compete financially as well to make this move.

This gives Vince all the incentive he needs to start poaching TNA's talent and hiding them on an undiscovered island.

To me it doesnt make a lot of sense to do this for TNA. Why awake a sleeping giant unless you have to? TNA on their own have no chance to come out of this in a better situation IMO.

Think of the pros and cons for TNA. The pros are there but IMO they are unreachable while the cons are very likely and most likely end up with TNA going bankrupt.

I guess we will have to wait on what comes out of this but they must have felt like being in a nice comfortable situation with little to lose wasnt how they wanted to continue forward.

[Toddzilla]

Whoa - that was a pretty cool surprise in the RR

Spoiler

Edge makes a surprise return, enters at number #29, runs the table and wins. Now he gets his revenge on 'Taker at WM

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Toddzilla

Whoa - that was a pretty cool surprise in the RR

Spoiler

Edge makes a surprise return, enters at number #29, runs the table and wins. Now he gets his revenge on 'Taker at WM

It was so predictable and lame IMO.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by SteveBollea

Considering most people thought either HBK, HHH, Batista, or Cena would win the Rumble, Edge actually winning the Rumble is a surprise. Then again, the whole problem with wrestling in the past decade or so is SWERVES~! winning out over booking that had worked for the previous fifty years.

Well they just did this same thing 2-3 years ago with Cena winning.

Now we have UT vs Edge for the 15th time or Shameus vs Edge neither which sound all that exciting to me.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by SteveBollea

Or Jericho could win the SDown title at the next PPV in the Chamber, setting up Edge vs. Jericho and HBK vs. 'Taker.

Also, so how should Edge have come back? Come back tomorrow on RAW and say, "Hi?" :-)

Could have came back and not won. As soon as I seen he was coming back it gave this one away.

[Neon_Chaos]

Edge winning was a pleasant surprise, actually.

[Schmidty]

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I missed yesterday, but they're replaying the RR right now!!!

[Neon_Chaos]

I haven't been this excited about the WWE storylines in a long time.

Edge is now a face and is going to be headlining WrestleMania.

We might be on the way to a Shawn Michaels - Triple H showdown.

Orton - DiBiase feud?

Aaaaand....

Batista just helped McMahon kick the living shit out of Bret Hart.

[Flasch186]

'cept that it looked like Hart was trying to open Vince up the 'hard way'.

[Maple Leafs]

That's what you call a heel angle.

(How pissed do you think McMahon is that he waited 12 years to get to spit in Bret's face, and he mostly missed from point blank range?)

[Schmidty]

Tivo sucks sometimes. I record Raw, but never know if I'm going to get the whole thing. And of course it cut off right in the middle of the Hart/McMahon thing.

[molson]

I always TIVO 30 minutes over on RAW (I think they have actually gone more than 15 minutes long before)