POTUS 2024 - Harris vs Trump - General Election Discussion

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

lol

Mike Lee posted an attack video on Walz showing him saying that he went to Menard's alone and bought a filter for his furnace.

They'll need more than that.

I heard he doesn't like tater tot hot dish.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

lol

Mike Lee posted an attack video on Walz showing him saying that he went to Menard's alone and bought a filter for his furnace.

They'll need more than that.

With the BIG MONEY Walz saved by shopping at Menards he should be able to afford some decent attack ads.

[GrantDawg]

That's funny. Just last night saw an old commercial for Menards on "The Video Garage."

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[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

lol

Mike Lee posted an attack video on Walz showing him saying that he went to Menard's alone and bought a filter for his furnace.

They'll need more than that.

He's a former teacher who coached Pop Warner football in rural areas. An incredibly normal man because he came from a very normal background. Repeatedly won a red district. Even has a veteran background.

I'm telling you that he will be incredibly well liked in the midwest and rust belt. Not really sure how you attack him but I guess they're going to go with "he's not rich and has to go to the hardware store himself".

[HerRealName]

I'm amazed! Great work by Harris as I'm guessing she was getting pressured to take Shapiro by donors and the West Wing branch of the advisor class.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I'm telling you that he will be incredibly well liked in the midwest and rust belt. Not really sure how you attack him but I guess they're going to go with "he's not rich and has to go to the hardware store himself".

Is that the attack here? I honestly don't get it. I wondered if maybe the joke here was that Menard's went out of business years ago and I didn't notice. Or is it that he should be buying more involved things than an air filter? That part of the clip actually seemed more like a mistake that they put it in there, than an attack. But I'm the kind of guy who wouldn't know if Menard's went out of business years ago, so I'm assuming there's a lot I could be missing here.

[albionmoonlight]

It will be fascinating. Walz's record is liberal, but he presents as a moderate/conservative Dem.

Harris is betting that low-information conservative-leaning voters in the Midwest are going to respond more to his vibes than his record.

[NobodyHere]

I know we still have Menards in my area.

[cuervo72]

We've been to Menard's a few times when visiting IN and have wondered "hey, why can't we have these??" I assume they're doing fine.

[Ghost Econ]

Trump did say former football coaches should replace military generals, so VP is pretty close

[GrantDawg]

So much to lke about this pick....

Walz and his wife went through IVF, Harris campaign says https://t.co/W985F5hORJ

— Betsy Klein (@betsy_klein) August 6, 2024

[CrimsonFox]

WHAT THE FUCK

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

WHAT THE FUCK

?

[GrantDawg]

The negative attacks Walz's looks like it will be that he did nothing to stop the "BLM riots" and he got a DUI in 1995.

[Danny]

Dont forget he didnt serve the country during either world war.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Lathum

?

why would she choose someone from an already blue state instead of a battleground state

[CrimsonFox]

is he at least somewhat progressive? or are we looking at another Tim Kaine

[Danny]

Walz appears to be the right pick to me.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Danny

Walz appears to be the right pick to me.

esplain?

[JPhillips]

He's going to absolutely kill on Gameday or McAfee or something similar talking about football.

Has to be odd knowing that VP is what you're going to be doing either for four months or eight years.

[timmynausea]

I will need to hear Walz's position on couches before I'm certain what to make of this.

[Jas_lov]

When was the last time the winning ticket had a VP that delivered a battleground state? I think that's been overblown. Harris is from CA, Pence from IN, Biden from DE, Cheney from WY. None of those states were in play so maybe it was Gore in '92? I like the Walz pick. He'll play well in the upper midwest.

[GrantDawg]

Dems in disconcerting levels of array https://t.co/F6fmqQK8DE

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) August 6, 2024

[stevew]

Originally Posted by timmynausea

I will need to hear Walz's position on couches before I'm certain what to make of this.

Hopefully not missionary or doggy

[albionmoonlight]

It is kind of humorous watching all of the #NeverTrump Republican pundits patiently explain to us why Walz is a bad pick and that the Dems will come to regret it.

These are the folks who, through laziness and miscalculation, let Trump take over their party in 2016.

It's like Rich Kotite showing up to give someone coaching advice.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by Jas_lov

When was the last time the winning ticket had a VP that delivered a battleground state? I think that's been overblown. Harris is from CA, Pence from IN, Biden from DE, Cheney from WY. None of those states were in play so maybe it was Gore in '92? I like the Walz pick. He'll play well in the upper midwest.

Gore was actually a controversial pick, because it was considered important to have regional balance. He was picked because he helped reinforce the youthful change image.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

The negative attacks Walz's looks like it will be that he did nothing to stop the "BLM riots" and he got a DUI in 1995.

Don't forget, Dems hate the Jews.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by larrymcg421

Gore was actually a controversial pick, because it was considered important to have regional balance. He was picked because he helped reinforce the youthful change image.

While VPs, outside of Palin and a couple others, haven't meant much in the past I'm not willing to bet on much of anything in today's political climate. GenZ is more politically engaged than past generations so while a Walz may not help a ton, there's risk that someone else could hurt the ticket.

The important takeaway here is Kamala has already shown that she's willing to go against the establishment and party money to make the right decision. That's more telling the Walz pick in itself. This is the type of unforced error the dems have been unable to avoid in the past.

[Danny]

I agree. Shapiro being the other front runner, was fhe wrong pick despite being in a battleground state, especially with the Israel related issues. Walz keeps the momentum going.

[thesloppy]

I think the importance of the VP pick has grown in the internet/soundbite era, during the election cycle at least. I think there's a larger, more accessible megaphone available to those who want to/know how to use it, though many have just opted for the traditional, more secondary role.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

and he got a DUI in 1995.

3 point bounce in Wisconsin for this.

[albionmoonlight]

“So it’s 2019 and I’m in the Wuhan Province at a wet market…” pic.twitter.com/mNDE17M6Ye

— Aubrey Strobel (@aubreystrobel) August 5, 2024

[RainMaker]

I think comparing him to one of the most beloved comedians of all time is a smart move.

Meet Tim Walz, who lives in a van down by the river pic.twitter.com/FDPLXXs8gs

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) August 6, 2024

[JPhillips]

This is what happens when you replace all of the pros with zealots.

JD Vance wrong-footing Democrats by campaigning for Harris today in Pennsylvania. pic.twitter.com/DO31sTjeFn

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) August 6, 2024

[thesloppy]

I don't think/care if it's been offensive to anyone, and it's been super effective so far, but leaning so hard into the singular word 'weird' could turn it into the left's version of 'woke' turning it useless. Now that the hook's been I wish they would abandon the word entirely (but still imply it), and let MAGA shoot themselves in the foot with it.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I don't think/care if it's been offensive to anyone, and it's been super effective so far, but leaning so hard into the singular word 'weird' could turn it into the left's version of 'woke' turning it useless. Now that the hook's been I wish they would abandon the word entirely (but still imply it), and let MAGA shoot themselves in the foot with it.

I think it's two different things. Woke just meant things I don't like. Another way to say "black" or "gay" without actually saying it. It became useless because it always was useless. No one using the word can actually describe what it means.

Weird is just that, calling someone weird. If anything, it's tame compared to what most people would call someone who's life revolves around kids genitals.

Sure it can get overused with time but I think it's been a positive because it's one of the rare times where liberals actually go on the attack. Most of the time they're cowering in fear that someone might point out that they support free school lunch or something.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Sure it can get overused with time but I think it's been a positive because it's one of the rare times where liberals actually go on the attack. Most of the time they're cowering in fear that someone might point out that they support free school lunch or something.

That is certainly true. My wishful thinking is that they make the exact same attacks just without that word, because it's easier for the GOP to defend themselves against a single word than the substance behind it..

[Ghost Econ]

Is the sign supposed to say Kamala Shags?

JD Vance looks like if Jason Street from Friday Night Lights went through with the shark stem cell injections.

[thesloppy]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I just cannot get enough of RFK. The more details that trickle out of that bear story the more hilarious it gets.

[Danny]

I think the word weird has enough legs to get through this election. Im in favor of its continued use through then. The issues themselves just arent of a lot of concern for some but they understand and hear weird.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think the word weird has enough legs to get through this election. Im in favor of its continued use through then. The issues themselves just arent of a lot of concern for some but they understand and hear weird.

It works because they ARE weird. Flying flags, wearing Trump gear, talking about off the wall shit, making your entire identity about one man, etc...comes across are very weird to most people.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Danny

I agree. Shapiro being the other front runner, was fhe wrong pick despite being in a battleground state, especially with the Israel related issues. Walz keeps the momentum going.

so are you saying Dems are gonna Waltz to victory?

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ghost Econ

Is the sign supposed to say Kamala Shags?

JD Vance looks like if Jason Street from Friday Night Lights went through with the shark stem cell injections.

that will definitely make her more popular, baby! oh, behave!

[Ghost Econ]

Originally Posted by Lathum

It works because they ARE weird. Flying flags, wearing Trump gear, talking about off the wall shit, making your entire identity about one man, etc...comes across are very weird to most people.

Jesus slowly backs away from last 2000 years...

[Ksyrup]

Originally Posted by cuervo72

We've been to Menard's a few times when visiting IN and have wondered "hey, why can't we have these??" I assume they're doing fine.

They just opened one in Richmond just south of Lexington and we always go when we visit our daughter in the Florence area just south of Cincy.

[stevew]

I hear you save big money with Menards

[Ksyrup]

AT Menards.

[CrimsonFox]

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

AT Menards.

[CrimsonFox]

the best thing about menards is the large lion statue at the base of the conveyor belt ramp up. I always feel obliged to boop its nose

[JPhillips]

Add tamponTim to the attacks.

I'm sure attacking him for putting free feminine hygiene products in schools will help with that gender gap.