Unofficial Official 2012-13 College Basketball Thread - Page 57

hoopsguy · 03-23-2013, 09:42 PM

Nate Silver's projections now show Louisville as 30.8% likelihood to win, followed by Florida (16.2%) and Indiana (14.4) and no one else has greater than 6%.

Would be curious what Kansas and Duke fans think about those numbers.

Nate Silverâ€™s Tournament Forecast - NYTimes.com

JonInMiddleGA · 03-23-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

It was another one of those where the defender was leaning way in on defense and got an elbow in the face by the offensive player was the one called for the technical foul. It's happened a couple of times already in the tourney and they have the graphic with the explanation ready. I think Gottlieb spent 5 minutes railing on it in one of his games and so did the announcer today.

As somebody (Kenny Smith maybe?) explained yesterday: you don't get to use your elbows.

It really seems pretty simple to me.

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Nate Silver's projections now show Louisville as 30.8% likelihood to win, followed by Florida (16.2%) and Indiana (14.4) and no one else has greater than 6%.

Would be curious what Kansas and Duke fans think about those numbers.

Nate Silverâ€™s Tournament Forecast - NYTimes.com

Considering how erratic we've been this season, I'm not really sold that KU could "easily" win the title. If you promised me a loss in the Final Four by Kansas right now (i.e. a guaranteed 3-1 record), I'd probably take it.

That said, it will flip to close to 10% if Duke and Kansas win tomorrow. Kansas and Duke each have games tomorrow that they're only in the 70s to win and that's hurting the percentage a lot.

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molson · 03-23-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

As somebody (Kenny Smith maybe?) explained yesterday: you don't get to use your elbows.

It really seems pretty simple to me.

Ya, it's tough to see it called in spots like that, but the whole point of the rule is that accidental elbow contact is not OK, so people are discouraged from swinging them around in the first place. Occasionally, a guy who wasn't being reckless is going to be called, but I think that's pretty rare, and probably a necessary evil unless you want refs trying to to draw a line somewhere.

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 09:52 PM

Personally, I don't have a problem with the rule but some of the announcers seem to

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tarcone · 03-23-2013, 09:57 PM

I am okay with the elbow rule. But they need to call the foul when the guy is leaning on the player as well. Thats when the elbow swinging occurs. When a player is trying to get some space.
Basketball has changed to a full contact sport. If they called the game closer and eliminated contact, it would be a much better game.

mckerney · 03-23-2013, 09:58 PM

Love what Vander Blue is doing in the tourney so far.

hoopsguy · 03-23-2013, 09:59 PM

Butler is getting turned over like crazy in second half ... not used to seeing that from these guys in March.

Or scores heading for 75-80 for finals.

Or other team dictating pace to Butler.

Butter · 03-23-2013, 10:00 PM

Marquette/Butler finally looks like the decent game we've been waiting all day for.

DeToxRox · 03-23-2013, 10:02 PM

So Twitter is abuzz with Ben Howland being fired, which isn't a surprise. The fact that Mark Gottfried is apparently a legitimate candidate to replace him though is a surprise.

kingfc22 · 03-23-2013, 10:08 PM

Glad to see we will likely finally have a couple of close finishes.

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:08 PM

Eh, it's a travel but a make up for not calling the last bucket for Butler a travel.

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:10 PM

THis is intense. Feels like an Elite 8/Final Four game.

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Marquette/Butler finally looks like the decent game we've been waiting all day for.

Gonzaga-Wichita State may be right behind it.

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Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:11 PM

It really is amazing how the coaches have become the stars of college basketball.

rowech · 03-23-2013, 10:13 PM

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It really is amazing how the coaches have become the stars of college basketball.

They're the only ones who give consistency to teams.

Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:15 PM

wow, that ball hung on the rim forever

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:15 PM

That ball nearly stayed 100% balanced on the rim! WOW

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney

Love what Vander Blue is doing in the tourney so far.

For the record, I love the name "Vander Blue"

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Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:16 PM

I hate some of these charging/ blocking calls, just let them play FFS

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:16 PM

Great pass underneath

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mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:17 PM

VANDDERRRR... shit!

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:18 PM

Huge three!

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Young Drachma · 03-23-2013, 10:18 PM

So how about that new Big East, eh?

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:18 PM

Where was the foul on that one?

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mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:19 PM

MAYBE a slight push in the back but pretty ridiculous considering all the contact that was happening on that whole possession.

Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:20 PM

Jesus, does Marquette realize there is a 10 second rule?

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I hate some of these charging/ blocking calls, just let them play FFS

I was thinking about this the other day. There has been a lot of talk about scoring being down and there is something to be said with players longer and more athletic but not as skilled. You can combat some of that by calling the game tighter which makes the floor feel a bit wider if you can't get as close up on other players.

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sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:24 PM

Silly and unrelated: why is Wichita State "WKH" on the scoreboard? Why not WSU? WCH? WCST?

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mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:24 PM

Bad call.

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:24 PM

Dumb shot.

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:25 PM

Dumb call.

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:27 PM

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:27 PM

Oh man

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sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM

This game deserves a last second three to win the game

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mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:28 PM

I cannot believe this shit. Butler down 4 with 5 seconds to go and an incredible pass and catch and shoot to score 2 points in two seconds. A turnover by Marquette and still 2.5 seconds left. WTF! This is INSANNNNE!

mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

Oh, man, Smith slipped... that sucks.

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

Dang the last second shot not worthy of the game. Still a great game.

Over to Gonzaga-Wichita State

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Scoobz0202 · 03-23-2013, 10:30 PM

What a dumb last 5-10 seconds that was, all the way around.

hoopsguy · 03-23-2013, 10:32 PM

Marquette doesn't make it easy, huh?

Butter · 03-23-2013, 10:33 PM

Remember when guys used to hit buzzer beaters in the tournament? Now we get guys tripping over their own feet. Nice job, fuckface.

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Marquette doesn't make it easy, huh?

Talk about living on borrowed time

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mauchow · 03-23-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Remember when guys used to hit buzzer beaters in the tournament? Now we get guys tripping over their own feet. Nice job, fuckface.

PFfffft

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:45 PM

This game is getting really fun, too, with the dueling 3s

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Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:46 PM

wow did Gonzaga just get screwed twice in a 3 second span that ends up being a 5 point swing

sterlingice · 03-23-2013, 10:53 PM

Gottlieb is really annoying but I like how he says things sometimes that make you go "wait, no announcer in their right mind would say that because they'd get in trouble"

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Lathum · 03-23-2013, 10:55 PM

did they just call a lane violation? are you kidding me?

Butter · 03-23-2013, 10:57 PM

Shockers with some cold-blooded shooting down the stretch.

hoopsguy · 03-23-2013, 10:58 PM

Wow, most of these Wichita State looks were open, out of offense, etc. But that last one was pretty sick. And, I think, their 7th make in a row from behind arc?

hoopsguy · 03-23-2013, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

Gottlieb is really annoying but I like how he says things sometimes that make you go "wait, no announcer in their right mind would say that because they'd get in trouble"

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I like him a lot more in studio than calling the games.

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03-23-2013, 09:57 PM	#2806
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I am okay with the elbow rule. But they need to call the foul when the guy is leaning on the player as well. Thats when the elbow swinging occurs. When a player is trying to get some space. Basketball has changed to a full contact sport. If they called the game closer and eliminated contact, it would be a much better game. __________________ Excuses are for wusses- Spencer Lee Punting is Winning- Tory Taylor The word is Fight! Fight! Fight! For Iowa FOFC 30 Dollar Challenge Champion-OOTP '15

03-23-2013, 10:00 PM	#2809
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03-23-2013, 10:08 PM	#2811
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03-23-2013, 10:16 PM	#2821
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Great pass underneath SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 09:42 PM	#2801
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Nate Silver's projections now show Louisville as 30.8% likelihood to win, followed by Florida (16.2%) and Indiana (14.4) and no one else has greater than 6%. Would be curious what Kansas and Duke fans think about those numbers. Nate Silverâ€™s Tournament Forecast - NYTimes.com

03-23-2013, 09:58 PM	#2807
mckerney Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Love what Vander Blue is doing in the tourney so far.

03-23-2013, 09:59 PM	#2808
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Butler is getting turned over like crazy in second half ... not used to seeing that from these guys in March. Or scores heading for 75-80 for finals. Or other team dictating pace to Butler.

03-23-2013, 10:02 PM	#2810
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	So Twitter is abuzz with Ben Howland being fired, which isn't a surprise. The fact that Mark Gottfried is apparently a legitimate candidate to replace him though is a surprise.

03-23-2013, 10:08 PM	#2812
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Eh, it's a travel but a make up for not calling the last bucket for Butler a travel.

03-23-2013, 10:10 PM	#2813
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	THis is intense. Feels like an Elite 8/Final Four game.

03-23-2013, 10:11 PM	#2815
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	It really is amazing how the coaches have become the stars of college basketball.

03-23-2013, 10:15 PM	#2817
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	wow, that ball hung on the rim forever

03-23-2013, 10:15 PM	#2818
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	That ball nearly stayed 100% balanced on the rim! WOW

03-23-2013, 10:16 PM	#2820
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I hate some of these charging/ blocking calls, just let them play FFS

03-23-2013, 10:17 PM	#2822
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	VANDDERRRR... shit!

03-23-2013, 10:18 PM	#2823
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Huge three! SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:18 PM	#2824
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03-23-2013, 10:18 PM	#2825
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Where was the foul on that one? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:19 PM	#2826
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	MAYBE a slight push in the back but pretty ridiculous considering all the contact that was happening on that whole possession.

03-23-2013, 10:20 PM	#2827
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Jesus, does Marquette realize there is a 10 second rule?

03-23-2013, 10:24 PM	#2829
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Silly and unrelated: why is Wichita State "WKH" on the scoreboard? Why not WSU? WCH? WCST? SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:24 PM	#2830
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Bad call.

03-23-2013, 10:24 PM	#2831
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Dumb shot.

03-23-2013, 10:25 PM	#2832
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Dumb call.

03-23-2013, 10:27 PM	#2833
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	OMG!

03-23-2013, 10:27 PM	#2834
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Oh man SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#2835
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This game deserves a last second three to win the game SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:28 PM	#2836
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	I cannot believe this shit. Butler down 4 with 5 seconds to go and an incredible pass and catch and shoot to score 2 points in two seconds. A turnover by Marquette and still 2.5 seconds left. WTF! This is INSANNNNE! Last edited by mauchow : 03-23-2013 at 10:28 PM.

03-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#2837
mauchow Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Murfreesboro, TN	Oh, man, Smith slipped... that sucks.

03-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#2838
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Dang the last second shot not worthy of the game. Still a great game. Over to Gonzaga-Wichita State SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

03-23-2013, 10:30 PM	#2839
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	What a dumb last 5-10 seconds that was, all the way around.

03-23-2013, 10:32 PM	#2840
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Marquette doesn't make it easy, huh?

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03-23-2013, 10:45 PM	#2844
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	This game is getting really fun, too, with the dueling 3s SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"