The 2010 FIFA World Cup thread (will contain spoilers) - Page 58

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

On the other hand, I think you'll find here that most amateur (American) football leagues will be pretty similar -- more likely to be 'flag football' than 'tackle football'

I've noticed adverts for 'adult' flag football leagues and they kinda make me smile tbh, never quite got the appeal of that myself ....

It sounds a bit like doing Motor-Cross but staying on roads because well you're getting on a bit now and falling off might hurt

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 08:57 AM

In a typically English fashion my heart says we'll win this 2-1 ... unfortunately my rational side isn't wholly convinced.

Although without Carragher at the back I reckon we've a shot so long as we keep a clean sheet the first 15 minutes while we settle in and conquer our nerves, for once I think the longer the match goes on an even keel the more confident England will become .... we KNOW we're not expected to dominate Germany in the way we were expected to win the group matches and in a strange way that'll help us.

3ric · 06-27-2010, 09:13 AM

Crushing tackle by Ashley Cole - yet completely legal. Non-contact sport my ass.

Radii · 06-27-2010, 09:18 AM

I think this is the first time I've been able to hear the fans singing/chanting over the buzzing of the vuvuzelas.

EDIT: only briefly, but it did happen!

tarcone · 06-27-2010, 09:18 AM

I dont know if its the fact it is sold as a "non-contact" sport (as is basketball), but its the rolling around on the ground or being carted off on a stretcher then popping up and waving at the crowd. I really dislike that aspect. Its the embellishment of the pain. blech.

3ric · 06-27-2010, 09:21 AM

I used to hate when those goals happened in FM2008.

MizzouRah · 06-27-2010, 09:21 AM

Wow... what a goal!

bbor · 06-27-2010, 09:21 AM

KLOSE!!!@!!@@@@!!!

Abe Sargent · 06-27-2010, 09:21 AM

Here come the Germans

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:21 AM

Sh*t defending ... nuff said.

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:22 AM

Germany are holding back* and waiting for England to be stupid enough to push on and leave them space to use their pace, for reasons I really don't understand we appear to be tactically nieve enough for it to be working ...

*When England get the ball they collapse back towards their own area which in turn pulls England forward, they then try and move up fast and catch us with players forward, especially when our wide defenders move up this is very effective as its them who have the pace in defense.

oykib · 06-27-2010, 09:23 AM

I think I saw that goal yesterday.

miami_fan · 06-27-2010, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

I was kinda shocked when I moved over here to realise that Americans do almost believe it IS a non-contract sport, it definitely isn't anywhere else

The first time I played in a league over here and shoulder charged someone off the ball there was a stunned silence from around the pitch - after which I kinda realized I have to be gentle with you lot

It is unfortunately becoming more and more 'wussy' with strikers especially being more sheltered/protected - in the name of 'skill', if I had my way fouls would only be given where they're obvious and any ambiguous ones would simply play on - that'd dissuade a LOT of the diving straight away. I also think that diving should ALWAYS be a yellow card offense, even when that means its two yellows and he's off - I hate play acting (yeah I've always played as a defender - you can tell?

(I figure this is why there are a lot more 'mixed sex' leagues over here though, amateur football back home can get a bit nasty at times - whereas over here its generally played in a lot more 'friendly/non-contact' a manner ...)

PREACH! PREACH!

bbor · 06-27-2010, 09:30 AM

damn....should have been 2

Coffee Warlord · 06-27-2010, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

The first time I played in a league over here and shoulder charged someone off the ball there was a stunned silence from around the pitch - after which I kinda realized I have to be gentle with you lot

Why were you not part of MY defense when I played in goal?

*grumbles about the defenders on his old rec-team*

bbor · 06-27-2010, 09:32 AM

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Abe Sargent · 06-27-2010, 09:32 AM

Thomkal · 06-27-2010, 09:32 AM

see ya england

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

see ya england

Our center of defense just doesn't have the pace to cope - barring something special we might as well use the break at half-time to be packing our suitcases .... been a nice run and at least we got past the group stages.

Englands defense has always been a known weakspot and its finally costing up dear.

Radii · 06-27-2010, 09:35 AM

Sorry Marc

oykib · 06-27-2010, 09:35 AM

Well, that seems like that for England.

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:35 AM

PS - As I've mentioned before in prior matches Rooney looks horribly off the pace again, I really don't think he should have been considered an 'instant pick' during this tournament.

Abe Sargent · 06-27-2010, 09:37 AM

Wow - game on!

Thomkal · 06-27-2010, 09:37 AM

okay maybe not see ya england

Abe Sargent · 06-27-2010, 09:38 AM

Holy shit, what a game!

Thomkal · 06-27-2010, 09:38 AM

oh man how can you not see that was a goal

whomario · 06-27-2010, 09:38 AM

revenge for wembley right there

big luck for germany, awesome game now

Lathum · 06-27-2010, 09:38 AM

OMG what a screw job! If any sport ever needed replay...

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:39 AM

Can't believe that, gutted ...

miami_fan · 06-27-2010, 09:39 AM

I knew we did not need goal line technology in this game!

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 09:39 AM

We NEED to keep em rattled now, if they settle again and start playing we're in trouble - but if they stay in defensive/nervous mode we have a chance ..

Lathum · 06-27-2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario

revenge for wembley right there

big luck for germany, awesome game now

Pretty shitty way to win...

oykib · 06-27-2010, 09:40 AM

Might've posted too soon. Nice goal.

bbor · 06-27-2010, 09:40 AM

Classic match so far

Crapshoot · 06-27-2010, 09:43 AM

Holy shit poor England. Its the reversal of 1966!

Lathum · 06-27-2010, 09:46 AM

Anyone else notice a reduction on vuvuzela noise?

whomario · 06-27-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Anyone else notice a reduction on vuvuzela noise?

propably a simple matter of how many english/german fans are in the stadium, propably more than half the stadium capacity are fans from either side.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Pretty shitty way to win...

oh, i agree wholeheartedly and am a firm supporter of goal-cameras and/or instant replay on coach challenges (like in tennis maybe like 3 times a match for each team).

my comment was merely recognizing the irony of it all in regards to the ´66 championship and i sincerely hope the german team gets back on track showing they don´t need any referee-mistakes to win, like they did before that 1:2 when they played some brilliant soccer in stretches.

the 1:0 was a brilliant effort by Klose, what a great run. The guy was named "shot" and "done" by people and shows a run like a freaking 20 year old.

The 2:0 was rivalling Argentina´s 4th goal against South Korea for combination of the tournament, brilliant chip pass by Klose, amazing run and by Muller, then the awareness to play the extra pass and then Podolski just hammering it in.

Warhammer · 06-27-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan

Our center of defense just doesn't have the pace to cope - barring something special we might as well use the break at half-time to be packing our suitcases .... been a nice run and at least we got past the group stages.

Englands defense has always been a known weakspot and its finally costing up dear.

At least you're not as bad as France.

miami_fan · 06-27-2010, 10:18 AM

So why was Heskey such a mainstay in the England lineup? Dafoe has been very good for England.

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Crapshoot

Holy shit poor England. Its the reversal of 1966!

Sh*t happens imho - sometimes its in your favor, sometimes not - main thing is we're playiing reasonably now and making a go of it.

I won't mind us losing, even to a bad call I DO mind us not playing to our potential.

That being said still 25 minutes left .... game on

bbor · 06-27-2010, 10:22 AM

YESYESYES!!!

oykib · 06-27-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

So why was Heskey such a mainstay in the England lineup? Dafoe has been very good for England.

Supposedly, he unlocks the true potential of Rooney.

Abe Sargent · 06-27-2010, 10:23 AM

Germany is playing like they deserve to be here

bbor · 06-27-2010, 10:23 AM

Did James jump outof the way of that ball?

Crapshoot · 06-27-2010, 10:24 AM

And its over. Too bad - England's played a remarkably open game in the 2nd half, and that goal is going to detract from a wonderful game at large.

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

So why was Heskey such a mainstay in the England lineup? Dafoe has been very good for England.

Heskey is generally unfashionable with fans, but he's a hard worker and good at holding up the ball and playing in his team-mates.

When Rooney is on form he'd be a good choice up front, but Rooney hasn't looked fully fit all tournament imho.

Crapshoot · 06-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbor

Did James jump outof the way of that ball?

Wrongfooted.

Warhammer · 06-27-2010, 10:24 AM

Is England that hard up for goalies that they are keeping James in?

Marc Vaughan · 06-27-2010, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot

And its over. Too bad - England's played a remarkably open game in the 2nd half, and that goal is going to detract from a wonderful game at large.

Not over until its over .... still time

rowech · 06-27-2010, 10:25 AM

Perhaps if Lampard didn't throw his hands up on everything he might have been able to recover on that goal.

06-27-2010, 09:13 AM	#2853
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Crushing tackle by Ashley Cole - yet completely legal. Non-contact sport my ass. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-27-2010, 09:18 AM	#2854
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think this is the first time I've been able to hear the fans singing/chanting over the buzzing of the vuvuzelas. EDIT: only briefly, but it did happen! Last edited by Radii : 06-27-2010 at 09:19 AM.

06-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#2856
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	I used to hate when those goals happened in FM2008. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

06-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#2858
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	KLOSE!!!@!!@@@@!!! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#2859
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Here come the Germans __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-27-2010, 08:57 AM	#2852
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	In a typically English fashion my heart says we'll win this 2-1 ... unfortunately my rational side isn't wholly convinced. Although without Carragher at the back I reckon we've a shot so long as we keep a clean sheet the first 15 minutes while we settle in and conquer our nerves, for once I think the longer the match goes on an even keel the more confident England will become .... we KNOW we're not expected to dominate Germany in the way we were expected to win the group matches and in a strange way that'll help us.

06-27-2010, 09:18 AM	#2855
tarcone Coordinator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pacific	I dont know if its the fact it is sold as a "non-contact" sport (as is basketball), but its the rolling around on the ground or being carted off on a stretcher then popping up and waving at the crowd. I really dislike that aspect. Its the embellishment of the pain. blech.

06-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#2857
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Wow... what a goal!

06-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#2860
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	Sh*t defending ... nuff said.

06-27-2010, 09:22 AM	#2861
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	Germany are holding back* and waiting for England to be stupid enough to push on and leave them space to use their pace, for reasons I really don't understand we appear to be tactically nieve enough for it to be working ... When England get the ball they collapse back towards their own area which in turn pulls England forward, they then try and move up fast and catch us with players forward, especially when our wide defenders move up this is very effective as its them who have the pace in defense. Last edited by Marc Vaughan : 06-27-2010 at 09:24 AM.*

06-27-2010, 09:23 AM	#2862
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	I think I saw that goal yesterday.

06-27-2010, 09:30 AM	#2864
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	damn....should have been 2 __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-27-2010, 09:32 AM	#2866
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-27-2010, 09:32 AM	#2867
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Wow __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-27-2010, 09:32 AM	#2868
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	see ya england

06-27-2010, 09:35 AM	#2870
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Sorry Marc

06-27-2010, 09:35 AM	#2871
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Well, that seems like that for England.

06-27-2010, 09:35 AM	#2872
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	PS - As I've mentioned before in prior matches Rooney looks horribly off the pace again, I really don't think he should have been considered an 'instant pick' during this tournament.

06-27-2010, 09:37 AM	#2873
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Wow - game on! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-27-2010, 09:37 AM	#2874
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	okay maybe not see ya england

06-27-2010, 09:38 AM	#2875
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Holy shit, what a game! __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-27-2010, 09:38 AM	#2876
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	oh man how can you not see that was a goal

06-27-2010, 09:38 AM	#2877
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	revenge for wembley right there big luck for germany, awesome game now __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 06-27-2010 at 09:39 AM.

06-27-2010, 09:38 AM	#2878
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OMG what a screw job! If any sport ever needed replay... Last edited by Lathum : 06-27-2010 at 09:39 AM.

06-27-2010, 09:39 AM	#2879
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	Can't believe that, gutted ...

06-27-2010, 09:39 AM	#2880
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	I knew we did not need goal line technology in this game! __________________ "Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp

06-27-2010, 09:39 AM	#2881
Marc Vaughan SI Games Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Melbourne, FL	We NEED to keep em rattled now, if they settle again and start playing we're in trouble - but if they stay in defensive/nervous mode we have a chance ..

06-27-2010, 09:40 AM	#2883
oykib College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	Might've posted too soon. Nice goal.

06-27-2010, 09:40 AM	#2884
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Classic match so far __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-27-2010, 09:43 AM	#2885
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Holy shit poor England. Its the reversal of 1966!

06-27-2010, 09:46 AM	#2886
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Anyone else notice a reduction on vuvuzela noise?

06-27-2010, 10:18 AM	#2889
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	So why was Heskey such a mainstay in the England lineup? Dafoe has been very good for England. __________________ "Do not be indifferent in the face of historical lies. Do not be indifferent when you see the past being exploited for the needs of contemporary politics. Do not be indifferent when any minority suffers discrimination. For it's the essence of democracy that the majority wields the power, but at the same time, the rights of the minority must be respected." Marian Turski- former prisoner of the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration and death camp

06-27-2010, 10:22 AM	#2891
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	YESYESYES!!! __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.

06-27-2010, 10:23 AM	#2893
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Germany is playing like they deserve to be here __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

06-27-2010, 10:23 AM	#2894
bbor Pro Starter Join Date: May 2001 Location: toronto	Did James jump outof the way of that ball? __________________ Pumpy Tudors Now that I've cracked and made that admission, I wonder if I'm only a couple of steps away from wanting to tongue-kiss Jaromir Jagr and give Bobby Clarke a blowjob.