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Old 06-26-2006, 08:46 PM   #2901
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I believe Schmidty, I don't know why, but I do...

I'm more concerned with Tangle, I voted for him before but pulled back when Blade asked me to vote for bullet.

I have no real bearings on chubby, but he has voted for baddies after the day one on cronin.

Don't know about much else...

Vote Tangle
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:47 PM   #2902
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You still have over an hour left...
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:48 PM   #2903
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I think I've hinted at my role a couple times now. Don't think we need an outbreak of role reaveals just yet.


Christ, am I the only player in this game who doesn't have a role?
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:48 PM   #2904
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While I don't have the time or inclination to do a full recap of king's posts, through page 15 what I am finding interesting is how many questions he's asking and how little he's speculating. About the only speculation he's offered was
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I wonder if the Head Necromancer and Dreamweaver know each other and then they have a couple of initiates searching for one another. IMO, that would seem to make the game balance a little more level compared to making them search to find one another.

An interesting point that I didn't remember. He also suggests that there was some sort of dice roll regarding Lathum's sense of the scan. With us now knowing that Lathum is the prophecy, could that have someting to do with his perception, which has not been duplicated?
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:50 PM   #2905
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Well, appearantly this isn't happening, and the difference in my suspicion level between him and the others on my list isn't really big.

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Old 06-26-2006, 08:51 PM   #2906
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Well that wasn't the role I was hoping to hear from Chubby. *Sigh*. Time to dig into king's posts.

I will say that Chubby's role reveal is rather convinient. Not very major, no way to coroborate with outside players, a god chance that no-one was assigned it also. If I were to pull a fake reveal I'd pick something similar. I'm not necessarily saying I don't belive you Chubby so much as I'm discounting it from whether I vote for you or not.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:52 PM   #2907
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Barkeep. The first two or three days I was at work all day so I was in catch up mode most of the time. I figured it was better to ask questions to see what the general consensus was. And 2 necs in a row is good enough of a result for me.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:53 PM   #2908
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I believe Schmidty, I don't know why, but I do...

I'm more concerned with Tangle, I voted for him before but pulled back when Blade asked me to vote for bullet.

I have no real bearings on chubby, but he has voted for baddies after the day one on cronin.

Don't know about much else...

Vote Tangle

If you would like to list your concerns, I'll be happy to address them for you.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:54 PM   #2909
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I will say that Chubby's role reveal is rather convinient. Not very major, no way to coroborate with outside players, a god chance that no-one was assigned it also. If I were to pull a fake reveal I'd pick something similar. I'm not necessarily saying I don't belive you Chubby so much as I'm discounting it from whether I vote for you or not.

Which I understand, it's the reason I sighed. I can't prove it, just as vanilla egyptians can't prove that either. It sucks. As I've said, to compound things I haven't gotten any benefit from being magically attuned so I can't say confirm, say, dubb's role. 10% should have been higher!
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:55 PM   #2910
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I will say that Chubby's role reveal is rather convinient. Not very major, no way to coroborate with outside players, a god chance that no-one was assigned it also. If I were to pull a fake reveal I'd pick something similar. I'm not necessarily saying I don't belive you Chubby so much as I'm discounting it from whether I vote for you or not.

But it's a pointless reveal, too, if you think about it. It doesn't help clear him any--there's no way to cross check it. It brings up the chance someone else does have the role (me? Vince?) and it comes off as being fake. In the end it's pretty much as good as saying nothing.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:56 PM   #2911
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What does the prophecy have to say about all this? I don't think lathum has posted all day and maybe he can shed some light on the situation.
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Old 06-26-2006, 08:57 PM   #2912
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If you would like to list your concerns, I'll be happy to address them for you.

tangle it's nothing against you, I just don't have a lot of answers...I find it hard to vote for schmidty.

You have picked up your activity from the start, but I still have concerns.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:02 PM   #2913
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I have to go get dinner with a lady that I just had a bath with, so I'm going to be out for a bit

I don;t know who to vote for. I kept hoping someone would conivnce me to vote for king, or Chubby, or tangle, or Schmidty or someone, and no one has really convinced me of anything.

This is the msot clueless vote I've had since Day One. Congrats on the remaining Necs for making this tough.

I've never made it this far with this little information before. So, without further ado, let's shoot for the moon:

Vote Chubby

I don't have anything more than a feeling. I have no proof, no evidence, and if Chubby doesn;t get lynched tonight, I probably won;t vote for him tomorrow if new information is revealed.

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Old 06-26-2006, 09:03 PM   #2914
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As for why I still have my vote on Schmidty. I remember us discussing what role(s) may not be in the game. I think it was back on day 3 or 4. And the one that was brought up was the high priest. I don't remember anyone speaking up and claiming that role so I think there is a good chance that he is just bs'ing us with his role claim.

Add that together with the fact that he claims to be ruling class and that every ruling class so far has been good, then I think he is a nec trying to save his neck.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:04 PM   #2915
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I keep forgetting that hoops is CST.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #2916
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As for why I still have my vote on Schmidty. I remember us discussing what role(s) may not be in the game. I think it was back on day 3 or 4. And the one that was brought up was the high priest. I don't remember anyone speaking up and claiming that role so I think there is a good chance that he is just bs'ing us with his role claim.

Add that together with the fact that he claims to be ruling class and that every ruling class so far has been good, then I think he is a nec trying to save his neck.


THE PHARAOH HAS EVEN BACKED ME UP ON THE RULING CLASS ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #2917
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I might as well throw a dart at a board right now to pick out a threat list. I posted my list earlier. Right now Schmidty is last choice because of the reveal and I'm fairly close to trusting him. Anxiety is next because we seem to be thinking extremely similar thoughts -- werewolf seems to have us linked somehow. No, I am not his brother. King was originally my first choice because of the lathum thing, but that was in a vacuum and for now I'm willing to let it slide. That leaves qwik, tangle, and chubby. Qwik seems safe enough for today....hrm. I feel like this is practically a coin flip.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #2918
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THE PHARAOH HAS EVEN BACKED ME UP ON THE RULING CLASS ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?

(Don't take that as anger, just frustration)
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:05 PM   #2919
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What does the prophecy have to say about all this? I don't think lathum has posted all day and maybe he can shed some light on the situation.
I was at work all day and only had enough time to get caught up before I had to go back out for dance lessons.

I think schmidty is probably telling the truth but I really don't see it as a major loss so I think it is worth taking the chance he is lying in an attempt to out other members of the ruling class in case he is a necro.

My only concern is with all 3 ruling class members gone does that have some sort of negative effect.

I am also wondering why alanT was targeting vince?

I am really wondering why tyrith is pushing for my death at some point when I have done nothing but help the good guys.

going to have dinner now, will probably be back in time for lynch
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:06 PM   #2920
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Ah, good ol' Schmidty, with blade dead I was wondering where the spice had gone. :P
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:06 PM   #2921
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I hate this game so much right now.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:07 PM   #2922
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THE PHARAOH HAS EVEN BACKED ME UP ON THE RULING CLASS ISSUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DUDE?

I'm not saying you are not ruling class. I just think there is a good chance that you are a nec since the 3 prior were all egyptians. I think hoops would have made 1 ruling class member a nec to mess with the pharoah part of the game. Ruling class does not automatically equal good.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:08 PM   #2923
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(Don't take that as anger, just frustration)

Where? As fas I can tell, path has confirmed there was one remaining ruling class member and not confirmed that: a) you are him and b) you are good.

If he has said these things and I missed them please point them out to us.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:09 PM   #2924
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I was at work all day and only had enough time to get caught up before I had to go back out for dance lessons.

I think schmidty is probably telling the truth but I really don't see it as a major loss so I think it is worth taking the chance he is lying in an attempt to out other members of the ruling class in case he is a necro.

My only concern is with all 3 ruling class members gone does that have some sort of negative effect.

I am also wondering why alanT was targeting vince?

I am really wondering why tyrith is pushing for my death at some point when I have done nothing but help the good guys.

going to have dinner now, will probably be back in time for lynch

Since when is lying considered helping?

I'm also not completely sure you didn't make blade explode somehow. Considering how nasty it was getting it might not have been a completely awful use of a death touch power just to get yourself off tilt, or because, secretly, we've all wanted to make blade explode in the middle of the day at some point.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:10 PM   #2925
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...or because, secretly, we've all wanted to make blade explode in the middle of the day at some point.

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Old 06-26-2006, 09:11 PM   #2926
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or because, secretly, we've all wanted to make blade explode in the middle of the day at some point.

Yep. And only one of us was lucky enough to get to put together the death scene
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:12 PM   #2927
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Votes as of Post #2926:

Schmidty - SnDvls (2788), Lathum (2789), Saldana (2795), King (2797), Chubby (2800)

Chubby - Dubb (2890), Schmidty (2897), Anxiety (2913)

Tangle - Qwikshot (2901)

Not voted: Barkeep, Path, Anxiety, Vince, Tanglewood, Tyrith
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:14 PM   #2928
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I'm not saying you are not ruling class. I just think there is a good chance that you are a nec since the 3 prior were all egyptians. I think hoops would have made 1 ruling class member a nec to mess with the pharoah part of the game. Ruling class does not automatically equal good.

I find it highly unlikely that hoops used a method other than RNG to determine who got a replacement ruling council role. Meaning that even if we take out that part of the story we have to find a reason to vote for him.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:20 PM   #2929
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someone convince me to move my vote.

after his reaction to me and my questions about his RR and him not remembering he voted for fouts...too many questions.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:21 PM   #2930
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I will not be voting for Schmidty, barring a last minute reveal of some sort which casts doubt upon him. However: Schmidty path has backed up that you are in the ruling class. And that you are the last one left. Not that you're good. Path happens to believe that you're good, but that doesn't make you so, though having a good guy behind you certainly helps.

As interest in king has fizzled I guess I would lean towards a Chubby vote, but would rather get a necro above all.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:22 PM   #2931
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someone convince me to move my vote.

after his reaction to me and my questions about his RR and him not remembering he voted for fouts...too many questions.

Just keep your vote on me dude. You weren't going to believe me regardless of the fouts thing or whatever, and you made that clear with your mocking tone.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:23 PM   #2932
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someone convince me to move my vote.

after his reaction to me and my questions about his RR and him not remembering he voted for fouts...too many questions.
This is a compelling case, I feel, for why people are not being obtuse by voting for Schmidty. I think Schmidty presents a more compelling case, but I resepct those voting for Schmidty. Which further dillutes our ablity to gain any meaningful information from the vote.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:24 PM   #2933
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Since when is lying considered helping?

I'm also not completely sure you didn't make blade explode somehow. Considering how nasty it was getting it might not have been a completely awful use of a death touch power just to get yourself off tilt, or because, secretly, we've all wanted to make blade explode in the middle of the day at some point.
it's werewolf, we all lie and there are times when it is very beneficial to lie in order to help the good guys.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:25 PM   #2934
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So lathum: You admit to being the prophecy now? I mean I know it, but it would still be nice for you to say it.

If you do: what is your win condition?
Further: Are you sticking by your story of being scanned? Going through the posts reminded me of that again.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:25 PM   #2935
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:26 PM   #2936
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I will not be voting for Schmidty, barring a last minute reveal of some sort which casts doubt upon him. However: Schmidty path has backed up that you are in the ruling class. And that you are the last one left. Not that you're good. Path happens to believe that you're good, but that doesn't make you so, though having a good guy behind you certainly helps.

As interest in king has fizzled I guess I would lean towards a Chubby vote, but would rather get a necro above all.

King is still sending off minor alarms for me, if any momentum could be swung that way it would probably be train I got on.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:26 PM   #2937
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Oh yeah: Who has the helmet these days? Path still?
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:28 PM   #2938
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So lathum: You admit to being the prophecy now? I mean I know it, but it would still be nice for you to say it.

If you do: what is your win condition?
Further: Are you sticking by your story of being scanned? Going through the posts reminded me of that again.
my win condition is the same as the the egyptians. I have been on their side the whole game.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:28 PM   #2939
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King is still sending off minor alarms for me, if any momentum could be swung that way it would probably be train I got on.

I'm willing to unvote Chubby if that's the direction people want to go.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:28 PM   #2940
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the only reason i am changing off of schmidy is the path backup to the ruling class portion of his story...i'm not sold on chubby, so i dont want to make my last vote there either....i am gonna go with the most UTR guy in the game, who i have actually forgotten is even playing several times, which is normally not the case involving him.

unvote schmidty
vote qwikshot
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:29 PM   #2941
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So how come it's listed as a neutral role?
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:29 PM   #2942
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my win condition is the same as the the egyptians. I have been on their side the whole game.

As odd as it may be coming from me, I might be able to buy some of this now.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:30 PM   #2943
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Oh yeah: Who has the helmet these days? Path still?

nope he passed it
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:31 PM   #2944
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and schmidty, considering that you used having to work as your reason for not being on the board much during other parts of the game, its pretty ballsy of you to rant about other people doing a 'hit and run lynch' on you because we had to go to work and couldnt post for a while.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:31 PM   #2945
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Tangle's vote for tyrith seems very odd. Why throw a vote on a 4th canidate? Seems like he is trying to distance himself from the rest of the vote.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:32 PM   #2946
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my win condition is the same as the the egyptians. I have been on their side the whole game.
meaning I have no special condition for a solo victory. I think I have proved this a few times allready that I am with the villegars.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:33 PM   #2947
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and schmidty, considering that you used having to work as your reason for not being on the board much during other parts of the game, its pretty ballsy of you to rant about other people doing a 'hit and run lynch' on you because we had to go to work and couldnt post for a while.

It just seemed that way at the time.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:34 PM   #2948
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meaning I have no special condition for a solo victory. I think I have proved this a few times allready that I am with the villegars.
then why wont you answer any of the direct questions people are asking you?
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:34 PM   #2949
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Tangle's vote for tyrith seems very odd. Why throw a vote on a 4th canidate? Seems like he is trying to distance himself from the rest of the vote.
Because he'd rather vote for somebody who he believes is bad then to have an impact on the lynch? Just a guess, but one that I'm considering personally as well.
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:35 PM   #2950
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then why wont you answer any of the direct questions people are asking you?
Look above. he's answering the questions.
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