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Old 04-16-2008, 12:30 PM   #2901
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BOOM!

Uh, WTF!
This is not the cruise that I signed up to do
Gunfire, a bomb. It seems like I'm still alive just out of dumb luck.
Seriously is this the boat from Speed 2?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:30 PM   #2902
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I'm not really familiar with the Boyfriend role. Has anyone been in a WW game with it before?

My first guess was that the BF and GF had to vote together. But unless it was something that developed mid-game, that isn't holding true

Voting with Jackal, living players
// is where Jackal's vote was
This of course doesn't factor in unvotes or re-votes, I'm too lazy for that

1: CR, // Qwik, SY
2: jeheinz, // Olie, NTN, Taz
3: Lathum, nfg, jeheinz72, kwhit, olie, //
4: jeheinz72, //
5: No Jackal Vote
6: //, CR, nfg, qwik, jeheinz72, SY, Olie, KWht

I'm not seeing any real pattern there, other than myself and I ain't Jackal's girl-ho.

So it must not be vote-related.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:31 PM   #2903
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I found the info on my necklace. Cant believe I missed all that. Also I think its funny that two times I have not been asked for my night actions twice. Last night I drank red stripe beer. Nothing happened.

Can you run down your night actions in general for us?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:32 PM   #2904
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Maybe the BF/GF thing is excursion related.

Does anyone have Jackal's excursions?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:42 PM   #2905
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man, alans game just made my laptop go crazy.

I tried using the links on the frontpage to see if anyone was voting each day with Jackyl and IE windows started popping up like crazy
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:44 PM   #2906
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man, alans game just made my laptop go crazy.

I tried using the links on the frontpage to see if anyone was voting each day with Jackyl and IE windows started popping up like crazy

PEBCAK
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:46 PM   #2907
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PEBCAK

huh?
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:50 PM   #2908
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huh?

Definitely PEBCAK.
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:50 PM   #2909
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:54 PM   #2910
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Old 04-16-2008, 12:56 PM   #2911
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Since Ihave a class I need to be quick about this.

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Old 04-16-2008, 01:00 PM   #2912
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Sonic (5) : CR (2818), Jackal (2824), Olie (2867), KWhit (2886) NTNDeacon (2911)
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:03 PM   #2913
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:27 PM   #2914
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wow.

I'm a threadkiller
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:30 PM   #2915
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wow.

I'm a threadkiller


Well, I'm torn. I trust you, but I don't understand putting a potentially weighted vote onto a brand-new candidate at this point.

*cue his putting his vote on me*
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:30 PM   #2916
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Nm, I don't actually have a vote on me, I thought I did.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:35 PM   #2917
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Nm, I don't actually have a vote on me, I thought I did.

I heavily weighed that. I just am not sure SY is the way to go.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM   #2918
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What? Suspicion makes you a wolf? thats ridiculous.

I guess you went to the Sonic Youth School of Teamwork, good to know we are all willing to listen to each other ideas without being nasty and condescending.
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM   #2919
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I heavily weighed that. I just am not sure SY is the way to go.

Why do you think CR is the way to go? Especially when no one else has voted for him today?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:38 PM   #2920
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I really don't feel that Sonic Youth is the right choice
so I'm going in another direction and hope there's no remorse
With that I Vote NFG22 so people can hear my voice
Will the pleasure cruise ever get back on course?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:41 PM   #2921
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I heavily weighed that. I just am not sure SY is the way to go.

I don't think he is either. I think he's a villager who's basically let his emotions get the best of him, I remember now in RendeR's game he did kind of the same thing to a statement I made. I only nudged him with speculation and he came full bore back at me, and if memory serves he was a villager then

I also think if he was really a wolf, when signing off for the night he'd both

A) Present his case stronger (not focus on the essentially meaningless tiff with Olie about post #'s)
B) Put his vote on someone that might actually be a decent candidate, not the shot-in-the-dark ntndeacon
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:41 PM   #2922
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Sonic (5) : CR (2818), Jackal (2824), Olie (2867), KWhit (2886) NTNDeacon (2911)
Olie (1) : nfg (2815)
NTN (1) : SY (2869)
NFG (1) : jeheinz72 (2883), Taz (2920)
CR (1): Lathum (2913)

No vote: Qwikshot
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:42 PM   #2923
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Bah

Sonic (5) : CR (2818), Jackal (2824), Olie (2867), KWhit (2886) NTNDeacon (2911)
NFG (2) : jeheinz72 (2883), Taz (2920)
Olie (1) : nfg (2815)
NTN (1) : SY (2869)
CR (1): Lathum (2913)

No vote: Qwikshot
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:42 PM   #2924
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I think we need 5 to get a lynch
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:50 PM   #2925
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unvote ChiefRum
Vote Oliegirl


killing Path seems to calculated
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:51 PM   #2926
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Why do that now, after the vote on CR? Why not just vote Olie off the bat?
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:01 PM   #2927
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Why do that now, after the vote on CR? Why not just vote Olie off the bat?

re evaluated my choice.

If olie is a wolf we learn the most
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:02 PM   #2928
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Deadline. I have the following for the vote count. someone please correct me if I am wrong:

(5) Sonic Youth - Chief Rum (2818), the jackal (2824), oliegirl (2867), Kwhit (2886), ntndeacon (2911)
(2) Nfg22 - Jeheinz (2883), tazftw (2920)
(2) Oliegirl - Nfg22 (2815), Lathum (2925)
(1) Ntndeacon - Sonic Youth (2869)

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Old 04-16-2008, 02:02 PM   #2929
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Should be interesting to see how much Lathum's possible power bumps Olie up
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:09 PM   #2930
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:10 PM   #2931
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I forgot to submit for an excursion
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #2932
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The captain readies to let you leave the ship in what you hope is the last day in Montego Bay. Before unlocking the gate he announces that once again he has someone that has been deemed suspicious enough by his fellow passengers to warrant his removal from the ship.

The captain instructs the crew to take Sonic Youth and escort him off of the ship! Once that has been seen to, the captain invites the rest of you to go and enjoy the town.

It is now event response phase of turn 8. Those whom have events to respond to, the deadline for those PMs is 10pm EST tonight.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:15 PM   #2933
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hmmm, either my power has faded of there was something in place to protect Olie
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:17 PM   #2934
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hmmm, either my power has faded of there was something in place to protect Olie

Or you actually have the ability to choose when it is isn't used
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:18 PM   #2935
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All PMs have been sent, if you did not receive one, please let me know.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:39 PM   #2936
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This is what I/we get for not listening to path from the get-go I'm afraid.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:40 PM   #2937
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This is what I/we get for not listening to path from the get-go I'm afraid.

afraid of what?
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:45 PM   #2938
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On a side note, today this game passed Tombstone for most posts in one of my WW games. I guess having no deaths for several days can do something like that.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:48 PM   #2939
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hmmm, either my power has faded of there was something in place to protect Olie

If there was something in place, then I am not aware of it.

I chose to stay on the boat today and relax.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:48 PM   #2940
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afraid of what?

The fact you're a wolf

- Ropes were almost cut, but luckily, you saved the day

- I could've poisoned someone's food, but I'm a swell guy, so I didn't. And I say I didn't first, so when I do and it's a villager, it's suspect, but slightly dimminished since you telegraphed it
- Pretty much every other heavy-hitter in our WW group is dead, save CR, who was either left for last due to his time constraints, or is also a wolf.
- Note you vote for CR, which is either a setup of him for tomorrow or a cursory wolf-vote in case it has legs. You knew that the better players would push you on your stories, so you 86'd them earlier as you had to do more things
- Ditto your addition of me to your suspect list. It's a big setup for you for tomorrow. You'd like nothing more than to get it to probably a Me vs CR showdown I'd bet.
- You hand us Pass, who was basically toast anyhow, cutting ties to gain trust
- You've hardly been anywhere verifiable all game, when you have, it's with someone who easily could be a wolf too (Olie shoots path for you, she "bets" you in golf when you're the only two playing, you vote for her but way too late and needlessly to make a difference)
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:51 PM   #2941
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*cue response with incredulous tone*
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:54 PM   #2942
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I'd really like to know where Lathum sits on things before I vote. He's easily the closest thing I have to a trusted player

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The fact you're a wolf

- Ropes were almost cut, but luckily, you saved the day

- I could've poisoned someone's food, but I'm a swell guy, so I didn't. And I say I didn't first, so when I do and it's a villager, it's suspect, but slightly dimminished since you telegraphed it
- Pretty much every other heavy-hitter in our WW group is dead, save CR, who was either left for last due to his time constraints, or is also a wolf.
- Note you vote for CR, which is either a setup of him for tomorrow or a cursory wolf-vote in case it has legs. You knew that the better players would push you on your stories, so you 86'd them earlier as you had to do more things
- Ditto your addition of me to your suspect list. It's a big setup for you for tomorrow. You'd like nothing more than to get it to probably a Me vs CR showdown I'd bet.
- You hand us Pass, who was basically toast anyhow, cutting ties to gain trust
- You've hardly been anywhere verifiable all game, when you have, it's with someone who easily could be a wolf too (Olie shoots path for you, she "bets" you in golf when you're the only two playing, you vote for her but way too late and needlessly to make a difference)


interesting you flipped so fast.

It's almost like you had this all set up to go despite me being your most trusted player a few hours ago.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:55 PM   #2943
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I'm pretty sure Heinze is a wolf
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:56 PM   #2944
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interesting you flipped so fast.

It's almost like you had this all set up to go despite me being your most trusted player a few hours ago.

Close.

It all dawned on me earlier today and I wanted to see how you reacted to my saying that.

Then when you actually took that and said you suspect me, without really acknowledging my statement, I figured out what your plan was.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:56 PM   #2945
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I'm pretty sure Heinze is a wolf

I'm pretty sure you know I'm not.
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Old 04-16-2008, 02:58 PM   #2946
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The fact you're a wolf

- Ropes were almost cut, but luckily, you saved the day

- I could've poisoned someone's food, but I'm a swell guy, so I didn't. And I say I didn't first, so when I do and it's a villager, it's suspect, but slightly dimminished since you telegraphed it
- Pretty much every other heavy-hitter in our WW group is dead, save CR, who was either left for last due to his time constraints, or is also a wolf.
- Note you vote for CR, which is either a setup of him for tomorrow or a cursory wolf-vote in case it has legs. You knew that the better players would push you on your stories, so you 86'd them earlier as you had to do more things
- Ditto your addition of me to your suspect list. It's a big setup for you for tomorrow. You'd like nothing more than to get it to probably a Me vs CR showdown I'd bet.
- You hand us Pass, who was basically toast anyhow, cutting ties to gain trust
- You've hardly been anywhere verifiable all game, when you have, it's with someone who easily could be a wolf too (Olie shoots path for you, she "bets" you in golf when you're the only two playing, you vote for her but way too late and needlessly to make a difference)


Why would he make up that elaborate ropes story? I don't see the risk/reward in a wolf doing that.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:00 PM   #2947
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Why would he make up that elaborate ropes story? I don't see the risk/reward in a wolf doing that.

Sure, nothing went actually wrong did it? I mean we didn't actually get delayed. Why not say you fixed it.

Worst case it lingers as a minor point in peoples eyes, but look at the votes, it never even got Lathum close to getitng lynched. It worked perfectly.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:00 PM   #2948
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Alright guys, I am out for a few hours...have a bunch of errands to do and then dinner with some friends before we leave. I have to pack when I get home so I'm not sure if I'll be on before deadline or not, I'll try to check in but can't make any promises.
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:39 PM   #2949
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:22 PM   #2950
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I don't see one, no.

I went on the safari. It was...interesting. My driver was shot and killed and I was told never to go back.

OK, did some post digging on heinze from early in the game. Found some intersting stuff.


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I meant I didn't see a problem with us revealing our excursions (my bad, should've quoted your post)

I saw him and CR on the safari, just us 3 as far as I know (well unless you count the pyscho who killed the driver, threatened us and ran off).

Heinze, Qwik, and CR all were on the safari day one when the driver was killed. Interestingly enough all 3 of them are alive.

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Well, the reason I did that already presented itself. I figured since a "bad" thing (the driver getting shot by the random guy) happened and I had nothing to do with it, I wanted people who could corroborate.

he claims he wanted someone to corroborate his story, would be easy to fabricate something if they were all wolves. For all we know they ate the drver.


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I don't like the convenience of it all, and I don't like a tie

Unvote St Cronin

Vote Sonic Youth

this happened AFTER the deadline. Seems like he was trying to come off as a helpfull villager type

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No he wasn't (ahead). Alan confirmed it was a tie, and since mine missed the deadline it was a tie when I attempted to do it.

I was voting to break the ties.

Anx's vote was to get a vote in.

The cronin vote was admiteddly stupid. I was trying to get a 3rd candidate up there, and went off of a mistaken post count posted shortly before when I did it. At the time, I thought he had a vote on him. I can reference the posts if anyone would like.

here he says he wanted to get a third candidate, spreading out the vote is precisly what a wolf would want to do given the voting dynamic

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FTR

0) Safari, driver killed, crazy guy escapes to jungle. Choose to drive jeep back
1) Ruins, nothing happened, saw no one in particular
2) Shipwreck snorkeling, nothing happened, saw no one in particular

interesting. First activity something very odd happens involving CR and Qwik.
Then his next 2 activities can't be verified by anyone.

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Thirdly, Lathum's story about the ropes being cut, and thinking someone had to be on the boat to do that (which makes sense to me), that adds suspicion on those that stayed on the boat yesterday, which Swaggs did.

I think that's the case, or at least how I read it (hope it was proper!)

here he says he believes me about the ropes. Now he doesn;t. Intersting


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Yes, I saw: Chief Rum, Hoopsguy, path12, mccollins

No options here either.

hmm, 3 dead villagers and CR.

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For discerning purposes



Should clap come back as a passenger, which I think he will, I'll be looking hard at Qwik, Collins, Jackal and Path. 4 votes (out of 5 for the two) in a space of 31 posts and 26 minutes. That's quite a run there.

again. 3 dead villagers but this time Qwik. Classic wolf play to mention one of your own in a distrusted list.


I think that connection needs looking at.
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