The 2010 MLB Season Thread - Page 59

samifan24 · 08-03-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Also correct. Maybe it seems like piling on, but the author is dead-on correct.

He's correct that Santana put himself in a bad spot but saying Santana "deserved it" is in poor taste, especially since we don't even know the extent of the injury yet.

dawgfan · 08-03-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by samifan24

He's correct that Santana put himself in a bad spot but saying Santana "deserved it" is in poor taste, especially since we don't even know the extent of the injury yet.

Well, that wording is questionable. But the fact is, he put himself in that position - he was in a very defenseless position that also happened to be against MLB rules.

stevew · 08-03-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hah... thought this was funny. From Ryan Doumit's baseball reference sponsor:

@roccodemaro had mentioned this, but I hadn't had time to check it out. Hilarious.

samifan24 · 08-03-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Well, that wording is questionable. But the fact is, he put himself in that position - he was in a very defenseless position that also happened to be against MLB rules.

Right. I still think this happened to him partly because he only moved to catcher a few years ago. You can drill all you want but experience is the only thing that can help you in certain game situations, like that one.

korme · 08-03-2010, 02:49 PM

I damn near cheered when OCab got hurt. He has been pretty close to terrible, and I'll accept the same offensive productivity from Janish as that means we'll be starting 3 GG caliber infielders.

Also, Dusty still sucks. Cairo is batting 3rd tonight. Because he's replacing Votto, and that's where Votto bats. Ugh.

Scoobz0202 · 08-03-2010, 02:51 PM

And Janish is batting second (GUESS WHERE OCAB WAS BATTING! ANYBODY!? ANYBODY!?) while Haisey and Hernandez will be hitting 7th and 8th.

korme · 08-03-2010, 03:08 PM

lol yep go DUSTBALL

BishopMVP · 08-03-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

Bump for the pending Carlos Santana debate.

It sucks for Santana and I hope the initial prognosis of no serious damage is correct, but I don't see where you can blame Kalish on this one. Santana didn't have possession of the ball when Kalish began his slide, and Kalish actually slid like he was going into a normal base instead of dropping a shoulder into a waiting catcher. If you want to blame anyone, blame 3B coach Tim Bogar who's now cost us 3-4 games.

And of course, despite the focus on Santana's horrible bending knee, the worst injury last night was Kevin Youkilis with a (possible) muscle tear in his thumb that could end his season. Just not our year.

stevew · 08-03-2010, 08:34 PM

Fight! Red Sox/Injuns.

terpkristin · 08-03-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Fight! Red Sox/Injuns.

Fights are always kind of interesting to me when I listen to games instead of watch them. I'm listening to the game via MLB.com, listening to WEEI (the Boston station). The commentators are implying that it was kind of an overreaction on the Indians side that lead to the fight/ejections. Meanwhile, to read on Twitter, the Red Sox had it coming. Since I almost always listen to games (not in market to see all the games), I love hearing/seeing the different perspectives. It might be the one advantage of watching a game on TV. Still wish I were up in Boston...

/tk

stevew · 08-03-2010, 08:59 PM

it was kind of weaksauce really. Bunch of white boys puffin their chests. And then the oldies got in a yellin match.

stevew · 08-03-2010, 09:06 PM

dola. Beltre should have been ejected...umps missed that

JonInMiddleGA · 08-03-2010, 09:35 PM

As discussed here recently IIRC, Torii Hunter moves to RF, Scioscia says that's not a temporary or part-time move. Bourjos takes over in center.
"Peter's going to play center field. ... You're not going to see Torii flip-flopping back and forth on a given day," Scioscia said.

Los Angeles Angels move Torii Hunter to right field - ESPN Los Angeles

samifan24 · 08-03-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by terpkristin

Fights are always kind of interesting to me when I listen to games instead of watch them. I'm listening to the game via MLB.com, listening to WEEI (the Boston station). The commentators are implying that it was kind of an overreaction on the Indians side that lead to the fight/ejections. Meanwhile, to read on Twitter, the Red Sox had it coming. Since I almost always listen to games (not in market to see all the games), I love hearing/seeing the different perspectives. It might be the one advantage of watching a game on TV. Still wish I were up in Boston...

/tk

It was a pretty weak bench clearer but a couple of guys from both teams were pretty fired up. Beckett hit Duncan and Choo in the first couple of innings and the the Tribe's Germano threw behind Ortiz and then Lewis threw behind Beltre and Beltre walked toward the mound and then Beckett led everyone onto the field. I have no idea how Beltre didn't get tossed, too.

Anyway Duncan and Beckett were screaming at each other and then Francona went nuts on Indians 3B coach Steve Smith. I have no idea what Manny Acta was doing during all this.

Chief Rum · 08-03-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

As discussed here recently IIRC, Torii Hunter moves to RF, Scioscia says that's not a temporary or part-time move. Bourjos takes over in center.
"Peter's going to play center field. ... You're not going to see Torii flip-flopping back and forth on a given day," Scioscia said.

Los Angeles Angels move Torii Hunter to right field - ESPN Los Angeles

You are correct, Jon. It was just a week ago that bhlloy and I were discussing this possibility as we sought answers for the Angels' piss poor outfield defense. We just thought it would be a move Torii fought kicking and screaming. It seems from that article that this had occurred to him and Sciosc some time ago and were working out the right time to do it.

Positive move, IMO, especially if it also gets Rivera's underachieving ass out of the lineup. Obviously, this works best if Bourjos can make a decent enough transition to the lineup. He's a nice defender, great speed, makes good contact, but, hey, we're talking a fresh-faced rookie here. Lot of responsibility to hand him. Hopefully Angels management does things smarter than they did with Wood.

bhlloy · 08-04-2010, 12:06 AM

Torii has handled this with nothing but class, they interviewed him after the game and he basically said "whatever helps the team to win". Very impressed with him and hopefully Bourjos can really learn at the MLB level for the rest of the year.

cartman · 08-04-2010, 09:49 AM

For those who are interested, a reporter for the Star-Telegram is providing updates via Twitter on the auction for the Texas Rangers. The proceedings kicked off at 9am Central, but evidently the bidding hasn't started yet.

http://twitter.com/aandro

JPhillips · 08-04-2010, 09:53 AM

A Rangers team photo on the official FOFC submarine would look great.

Let's put in a bid.

Butter · 08-04-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by korme

I damn near cheered when OCab got hurt. He has been pretty close to terrible, and I'll accept the same offensive productivity from Janish as that means we'll be starting 3 GG caliber infielders.

Also, Dusty still sucks. Cairo is batting 3rd tonight. Because he's replacing Votto, and that's where Votto bats. Ugh.

Look, I'm not a huge Dusty fan, but Cairo is hitting over .300 in a not insignificant # of AB's this year, and has been a good RBI producer.

Also, Janish has actually batted 8th more than he has batted 2nd this year.

But Janish had some weak-ass AB's last night.

Chief Rum · 08-04-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Look, I'm not a huge Dusty fan, but Cairo is hitting over .300 in a not insignificant # of AB's this year, and has been a good RBI producer.

Also, Janish has actually batted 8th more than he has batted 2nd this year.

But Janish had some weak-ass AB's last night.

lol...average...RBIs...surprised, no mention of clutch.

Sabrehead bombs drop in three, two, one...

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 08-04-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol...average...RBIs...surprised, no mention of clutch.

Sabrehead bombs drop in three, two, one...

Meh, the most obvious sabrephrase would be "regression to the mean."

cartman · 08-04-2010, 10:42 AM

In a minor subplot to today's auction, it was on this date in 1993 when Robin Ventura charged Nolan Ryan on the mound, and it all went terribly wrong for Ventura. Is this a foreshadowing of what will happen in the auction?

Butter · 08-04-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

lol...average...RBIs...surprised, no mention of clutch.

Sabrehead bombs drop in three, two, one...

Yes, I forgot that driving in runs isn't important, it's all about "OPS+" or whatever the hell it is.

molson · 08-04-2010, 11:03 AM

Is there an old-timey fast-talking auctioneer?

cartman · 08-04-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

Is there an old-timey fast-talking auctioneer?

Nope, it is an extremely slow process. The first high bid will be announced in about 15 minutes. Then the other side has an hour to review and decide if they want to up the bid. Rinse and repeat.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2010, 11:24 AM

Come on, Cuban! If he really has as much money as it seems, he should just purposely overbid and make it impossible for the other side to make a rational business decision to beat his bid. That's what I'd do if I have a kagillion dollars.

stevew · 08-04-2010, 12:02 PM

Cutch leads off with a homer today. Glad to see he's okay after getting beaned in the head last night.

Bad-example · 08-04-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

Is there an old-timey fast-talking auctioneer?

I hope Saturday Night Live jumps on this idea.

stevew · 08-04-2010, 12:22 PM

Holy cow....Angel Campos actually called Brandon Phillips for not avoiding a HBP. Phillips really leaned into it too.

lordscarlet · 08-04-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Holy cow....Angel Campos actually called Brandon Phillips for not avoiding a HBP. Phillips really leaned into it too.

Interesting. It happened this weekend when the Phillies played the Nats as well. Only it was Peralta instead Phillips. Kerwin Danley was behind home plate and it was also pretty clear he leaned into the pitch.

Butter · 08-04-2010, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Look, I'm not a huge Dusty fan, but Cairo is hitting over .300 in a not insignificant # of AB's this year, and has been a good RBI producer.

Also, Janish has actually batted 8th more than he has batted 2nd this year.

But Janish had some weak-ass AB's last night.

Janish batting 8th today... 3-3 with a 3-run homer.

Hello.

JPhillips · 08-04-2010, 01:59 PM

Sometimes things just work out. That Ciny lineup should be dreadful after the first three.

Nice to see Francisco living up to expectations. 273 avg/273 obp.

stevew · 08-04-2010, 02:07 PM

tragic bucco defense/pitching in the 7th. Will be so happy when steven jackson finally goes away forever.

korme · 08-04-2010, 02:42 PM

Yeah the Bucs relief pitching seems to be pretty awful. I feel bad.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2010, 02:54 PM

Round 1 - Cuban group. But it ain't over.

spleen1015 · 08-04-2010, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Round 1 - Cuban group. But it ain't over.

Got a link?

Ksyrup · 08-04-2010, 03:17 PM

I'm just refreshing the twitter linnk cartman posted up thread. Ryan/Greenberg in evaluation of bid; auction is recessed for an hour, I think.

Ksyrup · 08-04-2010, 03:44 PM

From what I've cobbled together from that guy's tweets, Greenberg/Ryan are planning to appeal based on the argument that Cuban's bid was not timely filed and is therefore not a legitimate.

EDIT: I guess they are going to go forward, and if they don't win, appeal.

stevew · 08-04-2010, 04:15 PM

The Pirates claimed Chris Resop on waivers from the Braves. I know he's a bit of a AAAA type, and was recently injured. But I'd much rather see what he can do in the starting rotation for the next 5-6 turns than, say, Zach Duke. Duke's pretty well established himself as very mediocre, I'm over it. Instead we'll send Resop to the bullpen and he can pitch an inning every 3 days. Duke's whole career was defined by his rookie season here, he's really never been very good. I'd non-tender him this offseason to be totally honest.

samifan24 · 08-04-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

The Pirates claimed Chris Resop on waivers from the Braves. I know he's a bit of a AAAA type, and was recently injured. But I'd much rather see what he can do in the starting rotation for the next 5-6 turns than, say, Zach Duke. Duke's pretty well established himself as very mediocre, I'm over it. Instead we'll send Resop to the bullpen and he can pitch an inning every 3 days.

James McDonald is a far better bet to stick in the Buccos rotation than Resop, a career reliever who has never started a ML game and only became a starter in the minors this year.

Radii · 08-04-2010, 11:03 PM

EMBED-Spiderman Style Baseball Catch - Watch more free videos

can't seem to get that random text out of the embedded stuff, but meh.

From: The most amazing catch we'll see all season - Big League Stew - MLB* - Yahoo! Sports

k0ruptr · 08-04-2010, 11:37 PM

that was bad ass.

lighthousekeeper · 08-04-2010, 11:51 PM

man asians love forced picture-in-picture

Danny · 08-05-2010, 12:23 AM

No big deal, I saw that in Major League 2.

JonInMiddleGA · 08-05-2010, 01:19 AM

Doesn't look too good for Kris Medlen, problem with his ulnar collateral ligament tonight, MRI scheduled for tomorrow.

Ksyrup · 08-05-2010, 06:47 AM

That catch is a copycat. Not sure how often they do it in Japan, and I don't know exactly when this one occurred, but I thnk I remember seeing this clip maybe 20+ years ago. Maybe it's not that old, but it seems like it.

http://

stevew · 08-05-2010, 07:44 PM

james mcdonald looking good in preseason. 6ip, 4h, 0er, 1bb, 8ks

Swaggs · 08-05-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

james mcdonald looking good in preseason. 6ip, 4h, 0er, 1bb, 8ks

I got to watch him for a few innings and he looked pretty awesome. Big, slow mid-70s curve and a fastball that was consistently in the 92-93 (and sometimes a bit higher) range. He looks pretty skinny, so I wonder about his long-term endurance as a starting pitcher, but for 2-months of Octavio Dotel this one is looking pretty good.

08-03-2010, 02:51 PM	#2906
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	And Janish is batting second (GUESS WHERE OCAB WAS BATTING! ANYBODY!? ANYBODY!?) while Haisey and Hernandez will be hitting 7th and 8th. Last edited by Scoobz0202 : 08-03-2010 at 02:51 PM.

08-03-2010, 09:35 PM	#2913
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	As discussed here recently IIRC, Torii Hunter moves to RF, Scioscia says that's not a temporary or part-time move. Bourjos takes over in center. "Peter's going to play center field. ... You're not going to see Torii flip-flopping back and forth on a given day," Scioscia said. Los Angeles Angels move Torii Hunter to right field - ESPN Los Angeles __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-04-2010, 09:49 AM	#2917
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	For those who are interested, a reporter for the Star-Telegram is providing updates via Twitter on the auction for the Texas Rangers. The proceedings kicked off at 9am Central, but evidently the bidding hasn't started yet. http://twitter.com/aandro __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

08-04-2010, 09:53 AM	#2918
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	A Rangers team photo on the official FOFC submarine would look great. Let's put in a bid. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

08-04-2010, 10:42 AM	#2922
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	In a minor subplot to today's auction, it was on this date in 1993 when Robin Ventura charged Nolan Ryan on the mound, and it all went terribly wrong for Ventura. Is this a foreshadowing of what will happen in the auction? __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

08-03-2010, 02:49 PM	#2905
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	I damn near cheered when OCab got hurt. He has been pretty close to terrible, and I'll accept the same offensive productivity from Janish as that means we'll be starting 3 GG caliber infielders. Also, Dusty still sucks. Cairo is batting 3rd tonight. Because he's replacing Votto, and that's where Votto bats. Ugh.

08-03-2010, 03:08 PM	#2907
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	lol yep go DUSTBALL

08-03-2010, 08:34 PM	#2909
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fight! Red Sox/Injuns.

08-03-2010, 08:59 PM	#2911
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	it was kind of weaksauce really. Bunch of white boys puffin their chests. And then the oldies got in a yellin match.

08-03-2010, 09:06 PM	#2912
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	dola. Beltre should have been ejected...umps missed that

08-04-2010, 12:06 AM	#2916
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Torii has handled this with nothing but class, they interviewed him after the game and he basically said "whatever helps the team to win". Very impressed with him and hopefully Bourjos can really learn at the MLB level for the rest of the year.

08-04-2010, 11:03 AM	#2924
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	Is there an old-timey fast-talking auctioneer?

08-04-2010, 11:24 AM	#2926
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Come on, Cuban! If he really has as much money as it seems, he should just purposely overbid and make it impossible for the other side to make a rational business decision to beat his bid. That's what I'd do if I have a kagillion dollars. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 08-04-2010 at 11:25 AM.

08-04-2010, 12:02 PM	#2927
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Cutch leads off with a homer today. Glad to see he's okay after getting beaned in the head last night.

08-04-2010, 12:22 PM	#2929
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Holy cow....Angel Campos actually called Brandon Phillips for not avoiding a HBP. Phillips really leaned into it too.

08-04-2010, 01:59 PM	#2932
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Sometimes things just work out. That Ciny lineup should be dreadful after the first three. Nice to see Francisco living up to expectations. 273 avg/273 obp. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers Last edited by JPhillips : 08-04-2010 at 01:59 PM.

08-04-2010, 02:07 PM	#2933
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	tragic bucco defense/pitching in the 7th. Will be so happy when steven jackson finally goes away forever.

08-04-2010, 02:42 PM	#2934
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Yeah the Bucs relief pitching seems to be pretty awful. I feel bad.

08-04-2010, 02:54 PM	#2935
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Round 1 - Cuban group. But it ain't over. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-04-2010, 03:17 PM	#2937
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm just refreshing the twitter linnk cartman posted up thread. Ryan/Greenberg in evaluation of bid; auction is recessed for an hour, I think. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-04-2010, 03:44 PM	#2938
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	From what I've cobbled together from that guy's tweets, Greenberg/Ryan are planning to appeal based on the argument that Cuban's bid was not timely filed and is therefore not a legitimate. EDIT: I guess they are going to go forward, and if they don't win, appeal. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete." Last edited by Ksyrup : 08-04-2010 at 03:45 PM.

08-04-2010, 04:15 PM	#2939
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	The Pirates claimed Chris Resop on waivers from the Braves. I know he's a bit of a AAAA type, and was recently injured. But I'd much rather see what he can do in the starting rotation for the next 5-6 turns than, say, Zach Duke. Duke's pretty well established himself as very mediocre, I'm over it. Instead we'll send Resop to the bullpen and he can pitch an inning every 3 days. Duke's whole career was defined by his rookie season here, he's really never been very good. I'd non-tender him this offseason to be totally honest. Last edited by stevew : 08-04-2010 at 04:26 PM.

08-04-2010, 11:03 PM	#2941
Radii Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	EMBED-Spiderman Style Baseball Catch - Watch more free videos can't seem to get that random text out of the embedded stuff, but meh. From: The most amazing catch we'll see all season - Big League Stew - MLB* - Yahoo! Sports

08-04-2010, 11:37 PM	#2942
k0ruptr Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas	that was bad ass. __________________ Xbox Live Gamertag: k0ruptr My Favorite Teams : Chicago White Sox - Carolina Panthers - Orlando Magic - Phoenix Suns - Anaheim Ducks - Hawaii Warriors - Oregon Ducks

08-04-2010, 11:51 PM	#2943
lighthousekeeper College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	man asians love forced picture-in-picture __________________ ...

08-05-2010, 12:23 AM	#2945
Danny General Manager Join Date: Jul 2001	No big deal, I saw that in Major League 2. Last edited by Danny : 08-05-2010 at 12:23 AM.

08-05-2010, 01:19 AM	#2946
JonInMiddleGA Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Behind Enemy Lines in Athens, GA	Doesn't look too good for Kris Medlen, problem with his ulnar collateral ligament tonight, MRI scheduled for tomorrow. __________________ "I lit another cigarette. Unless I specifically inform you to the contrary, I am always lighting another cigarette." - from a novel by Martin Amis

08-05-2010, 06:47 AM	#2947
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	That catch is a copycat. Not sure how often they do it in Japan, and I don't know exactly when this one occurred, but I thnk I remember seeing this clip maybe 20+ years ago. Maybe it's not that old, but it seems like it. http:// __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

08-05-2010, 07:44 PM	#2948
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	james mcdonald looking good in preseason. 6ip, 4h, 0er, 1bb, 8ks

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