The Trump Presidency – 2016 - Page 591

cartman · 10-07-2020, 12:28 PM

The Rasmussen poll released this morning had Biden +12.

PilotMan · 10-07-2020, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

The Rasmussen poll released this morning had Biden +12.

28 days is a long time, but early voting at this point in time makes me feel better.

Early voting is the only reason Amy McGrath won KY. She would have been trounced at the last minute by her Louisville challenger, Charles Booker, in the wake of the Breonna Taylor killing, had it been a day of election decision.

Atocep · 10-07-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

28 days is a long time, but early voting at this point in time makes me feel better.

Early voting is the only reason Amy McGrath won KY. She would have been trounced at the last minute by her Louisville challenger, Charles Booker, in the wake of the Breonna Taylor killing, had it been a day of election decision.

She's a lesson how not to run a campaign in Kentucky.

thesloppy · 10-07-2020, 12:50 PM

The evidence (or lack thereof) sure seems to be pointing to Trump making everyone around him test for covid while he wasn't getting tested. Nobody can point to when he last tested negative, cuz he wasn't getting tested at all.

ISiddiqui · 10-07-2020, 12:54 PM

My friend has taken to calling Trump the Pestilence of the United States. Well coined IMO.

Bee · 10-07-2020, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cartman

The Rasmussen poll released this morning had Biden +12.

So that's like Biden +20 in reality, right?

Brian Swartz · 10-07-2020, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I'm trying not to let my hopes get too high, but I think he's toast and it's not even going to be close.

Part of me's looking forward to seeing what happens when some friends & acquaintances of mine see the results. Particularly the ones who generally are apolitical but have gone all-in on COVID is a hoax, Trump is the greatest president and America's only real hope, etc.

The butthurt may well rival what happened on the left when Trump won, and that's a high bar.

JPhillips · 10-07-2020, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thesloppy

The evidence (or lack thereof) sure seems to be pointing to Trump making everyone around him test for covid while he wasn't getting tested. Nobody can point to when he last tested negative, cuz he wasn't getting tested at all.

And it seems more and more likely that the superspreader at the ACB party was Trump himself.

kingfc22 · 10-07-2020, 01:09 PM

A long, long read but well worth it.

The Case Against Trump (and why some of your friends and family no longer want to speak to you)

spleen1015 · 10-07-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz

Part of me's looking forward to seeing what happens when some friends & acquaintances of mine see the results. Particularly the ones who generally are apolitical but have gone all-in on COVID is a hoax, Trump is the greatest president and America's only real hope, etc.

The butthurt may well rival what happened on the left when Trump won, and that's a high bar.

They'll all be screaming about election fraud. No doubt about it.

sterlingice · 10-07-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Followed by this thread:

You’ve never beaten me at anything. This is our first dance. @realDonaldTrump. Did you like #covita. @ProjectLincoln. @TheRickWilson @stuartpstevens @reedgalen. We are so much better at this than your team of crooks, wife beaters, degenerates,weirdos and losers. You are losing 1 https://t.co/w1E9ZvRaYc
— Steve Schmidt (@SteveSchmidtSES) October 7, 2020

Um, ouch:

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One day I suppose there will be some small and not much visited library that bears your name. It will be the type of place where a drunk walks by, staring at the wall for a minute, before deciding it is beneath his dignity to piss on.

SI

ISiddiqui · 10-07-2020, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

They'll all be screaming about election fraud. No doubt about it.

Yep, and they'll swear until their dying day that the Deep State rigged the election for Biden.

sterlingice · 10-07-2020, 01:38 PM

There's a tipping point where the Trump supporters aren't going to turn out. His brand of being a "winner" is a big part of his appeal. You don't stick around a bully who is about to lose - you're going to try and pretend you never liked him in the first place, just like all the people that abandoned Bush after 2006.

SI

stevew · 10-07-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

And it seems more and more likely that the superspreader at the ACB party was Trump himself.

So who is Trump's mistress that gave it to him?

spleen1015 · 10-07-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

There's a tipping point where the Trump supporters aren't going to turn out. His brand of being a "winner" is a big part of his appeal. You don't stick around a bully who is about to lose - you're going to try and pretend you never liked him in the first place, just like all the people that abandoned Bush after 2006.

SI

It would be really great if that happened. I would love to see Indiana flip blue because of this reason.

stevew · 10-07-2020, 01:46 PM

sorta conspiracy dola-

I wonder if Melania even has it? Admitting that she doesn't would just show how little time they spend together. I thought it was a fishy announcement from the start.

PilotMan · 10-07-2020, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So who is Trump's mistress that gave it to him?

Hope Hicks?

stevew · 10-07-2020, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Hope Hicks?

nah, she had an affair with some other dude on the campaign. Trump wouldn't want sloppy seconds like that.

ISiddiqui · 10-07-2020, 02:24 PM

Because Stormy Daniels was so virtuous when Trump got to have sex with her?

stevew · 10-07-2020, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Because Stormy Daniels was so virtuous when Trump got to have sex with her?

I don't doubt that he has banged Hicks, but she's been linked to a bunch of dudes in his circle and all of them have gotten downgraded. Lewandowski, Porter, (maybe not actually) Parscale.

Edward64 · 10-07-2020, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

At this point why should the dems come back to the table other than its the right thing to do. Why give Trump any kind of win three weeks prior to the election when they can just reference his own words when pressed.

Because there are people out there that need the $1,200 check, companies will continue to layoff without something, and have Biden and Dems inherit a "less" weak economy.

Looking at it from a purely political point of view, I agree that Pelosi should not agree on a deal this close to elections. Not because it will hurt Trump because I doubt he'd get that big of a bump, but because what they can say about the GOP Senate not wanting to deal, and also because of the more Dem friendly package they can pass in Jan.

But she does need to continue to "negotiate" and show as if the Dems are trying.

So what is the greater good or the lesser of 2 evils?

RainMaker · 10-07-2020, 02:53 PM

Dems passed two bills that the Senate won't even bring up for a vote. The Senate has done squat.

Nothing is going to pass because McConnell doesn't want it to. He knows Trump is toast and likely his Senate majority. He's not going to hand Biden a recovering economy. And he already got the money for wealthy folks and big companies that he cares about. So he'll get the new SCOTUS judge confirmed and that's it. Reports are that McConnell is the one that got in Trump's ear yesterday to tell him to pull out of talks.

There's no reason why Democrats wouldn't want a massive bill to pass to help their candidate when they take office.

sterlingice · 10-07-2020, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

It would be really great if that happened. I would love to see Indiana flip blue because of this reason.

If it goes blue wave this year because the Trump support just crumbles, that will help the Dems across the board for the next decade with redistricting

SI

thesloppy · 10-07-2020, 03:14 PM

One thing that never gets brought up from the media side is that unemployment benefits do have time limits (I believe 6 months and then there is a possbile federal 3 month extension after that) to the point that the great majority's benefits will likely have already expired entirely before they reach any kind of agreement on 'boosting' those benefits, which soundly defeats the point.

Jas_lov · 10-07-2020, 03:14 PM

And the House passed the first Heroes Act back in May. GOP Senate did nothing for 5 months. Pelosi was negotiating with Mnuchin until Trump backed out yesterday. Not sure how this is the Dems fault when they've already passed 2 bills and Trump backed out of negotiations.

sterlingice · 10-07-2020, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

And the House passed the first Heroes Act back in May. GOP Senate did nothing for 5 months. Pelosi was negotiating with Mnuchin until Trump backed out yesterday. Not sure how this is the Dems fault when they've already passed 2 bills and Trump backed out of negotiations.

Because the Dems are supposed to be the ones who actually want to take care of people so it's their fault if people are screwed?

SI

JPhillips · 10-07-2020, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

So who is Trump's mistress that gave it to him?

Not a mistress, but I've seen speculation that it was (co)Ronna McDaniels, and that at least lines up with the WH timeline. Of course, the WH is probably lying about the timeline, so...

JPhillips · 10-07-2020, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

sorta conspiracy dola-

I wonder if Melania even has it? Admitting that she doesn't would just show how little time they spend together. I thought it was a fishy announcement from the start.

She's using it as an excuse to avoid the fucking Christmas decorations.

BYU 14 · 10-07-2020, 03:45 PM

This whole presidency is what happens when you hand the keys to the kingdom to the spoiled, privileged sibling who has skated through life on his/her trust account their whole life. America has become what the Hilton Hotel brand would be if Paris was named CEO 10 years ago.

ISiddiqui · 10-07-2020, 03:52 PM

I'd actually trust Paris Hilton as President more than Trump.

Atocep · 10-07-2020, 04:03 PM

Trump could have bowed out during the primaries in 2016, said something along the lines of "I can do more to help make America great again by not being constrained by politics", started a news network to trash hillary's presidency 24/7, make 100s of millions, and been happier.

His presidency will go down as one of the worst things for Trump and his family. All of them have countless investigations to look forward to from here on out.

BYU 14 · 10-07-2020, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

I'd actually trust Paris Hilton as President more than Trump.

And that bar wouldn't trip a centipede if they tried to jump it.

Bee · 10-07-2020, 04:31 PM

I just saw on Fox News that the Trump campaign has stopped ads in Ohio and Iowa because they are so "optimistic". I guess that is one way to put it.

Ksyrup · 10-07-2020, 05:07 PM

Just saw a tweet that they've either pulled out or severely cut back ads in the entire Midwest.

Lathum · 10-07-2020, 05:20 PM

That video that was just released, horrific....

Lathum · 10-07-2020, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

There's a tipping point where the Trump supporters aren't going to turn out. His brand of being a "winner" is a big part of his appeal. You don't stick around a bully who is about to lose - you're going to try and pretend you never liked him in the first place, just like all the people that abandoned Bush after 2006.

SI

we may be seeing that with reports seniors are bailing on him en masse.

BYU 14 · 10-07-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

That video that was just released, horrific....

???

Lathum · 10-07-2020, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14

???

A MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT! pic.twitter.com/uhLIcknAjT
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2020

Ksyrup · 10-07-2020, 05:31 PM

Fox News poll Biden +10, Biden +39 among those who believe Covid is most important factor.

BYU 14 · 10-07-2020, 05:39 PM

Jesus, sorry I asked. "some people don't understand what therapeutic means" says the guy that has no clue what therapeutic means.

This is like his bottom of the 9th, close my eyes and swing for the fences against a Phil Niekro knuckler moment. Free Regeneron for everyone and my truth, even when it is another lie, is the only "truth" that matters!!

albionmoonlight · 10-07-2020, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Fox News poll Biden +10, Biden +39 among those who believe Covid is most important factor.

If I am doing my math right, that means that for people for whom COVID is the most important factor, Biden leads ~70-30

Which means that 30% of the people for whom COVID is the most important factor still prefer Trump.

How is that possible?

It's like 30% of the people for whom reducing immigration is the most important factor being pro-Biden.

JPhillips · 10-07-2020, 05:46 PM

So we can prosecute terrorists and didn't need military courts in Guantanamo.

GrantDawg · 10-07-2020, 05:53 PM

He says God sent him Covid. Ok.

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Ksyrup · 10-07-2020, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

If I am doing my math right, that means that for people for whom COVID is the most important factor, Biden leads ~70-30

Which means that 30% of the people for whom COVID is the most important factor still prefer Trump.

How is that possible?

It's like 30% of the people for whom reducing immigration is the most important factor being pro-Biden.

I interpret that to mean opening the country and moving past Covid is what they mean by most important to them. Not that his response to something they think is serious has been good, but that his anti-mask, live with it approach is the correct answer to Covid.

JediKooter · 10-07-2020, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I just saw on Fox News that the Trump campaign has stopped ads in Ohio and Iowa because they are so "optimistic". I guess that is one way to put it.

Maybe it's Sadie Hawkins day in those two states?

albionmoonlight · 10-07-2020, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bee

I just saw on Fox News that the Trump campaign has stopped ads in Ohio and Iowa because they are so "optimistic". I guess that is one way to put it.

I guess the game theory reason (assuming the reports of low money are true) is that if he's lost those states, he's probably lost the entire Midwest and the election.

So if you think in terms of Worlds In Which Trump Wins, you have to start with the assumption that he's got Ohio and Iowa in the bag. Then you think that, OK, the swing states in that assumed world are Pennsylvania, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona.

thesloppy · 10-07-2020, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

A MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT! pic.twitter.com/uhLIcknAjT
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2020

Good Lord, man.

Brian Swartz · 10-07-2020, 07:42 PM

Godwin's law much?

stevew · 10-07-2020, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

A MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT! pic.twitter.com/uhLIcknAjT
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 7, 2020

i bet it's a deepfake.

kingfc22 · 10-07-2020, 08:27 PM

So 12,000 dead is worse than 210,000 (and growing) dead. Got it.

10-07-2020, 12:28 PM	#29501
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	The Rasmussen poll released this morning had Biden +12. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-07-2020, 12:50 PM	#29504
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	The evidence (or lack thereof) sure seems to be pointing to Trump making everyone around him test for covid while he wasn't getting tested. Nobody can point to when he last tested negative, cuz he wasn't getting tested at all. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM.

10-07-2020, 12:54 PM	#29505
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	My friend has taken to calling Trump the Pestilence of the United States. Well coined IMO. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-07-2020, 01:09 PM	#29509
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	A long, long read but well worth it. The Case Against Trump (and why some of your friends and family no longer want to speak to you) __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

10-07-2020, 01:38 PM	#29513
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	There's a tipping point where the Trump supporters aren't going to turn out. His brand of being a "winner" is a big part of his appeal. You don't stick around a bully who is about to lose - you're going to try and pretend you never liked him in the first place, just like all the people that abandoned Bush after 2006. SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

10-07-2020, 01:46 PM	#29516
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	sorta conspiracy dola- I wonder if Melania even has it? Admitting that she doesn't would just show how little time they spend together. I thought it was a fishy announcement from the start.

10-07-2020, 02:24 PM	#29519
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Because Stormy Daniels was so virtuous when Trump got to have sex with her? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-07-2020, 02:53 PM	#29522
RainMaker General Manager Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Dems passed two bills that the Senate won't even bring up for a vote. The Senate has done squat. Nothing is going to pass because McConnell doesn't want it to. He knows Trump is toast and likely his Senate majority. He's not going to hand Biden a recovering economy. And he already got the money for wealthy folks and big companies that he cares about. So he'll get the new SCOTUS judge confirmed and that's it. Reports are that McConnell is the one that got in Trump's ear yesterday to tell him to pull out of talks. There's no reason why Democrats wouldn't want a massive bill to pass to help their candidate when they take office. Last edited by RainMaker : 10-07-2020 at 02:53 PM.

10-07-2020, 03:14 PM	#29524
thesloppy Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: PDX	One thing that never gets brought up from the media side is that unemployment benefits do have time limits (I believe 6 months and then there is a possbile federal 3 month extension after that) to the point that the great majority's benefits will likely have already expired entirely before they reach any kind of agreement on 'boosting' those benefits, which soundly defeats the point. __________________ Last edited by thesloppy : Today at 05:35 PM. Last edited by thesloppy : 10-07-2020 at 03:15 PM.

10-07-2020, 03:14 PM	#29525
Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	And the House passed the first Heroes Act back in May. GOP Senate did nothing for 5 months. Pelosi was negotiating with Mnuchin until Trump backed out yesterday. Not sure how this is the Dems fault when they've already passed 2 bills and Trump backed out of negotiations.

10-07-2020, 03:45 PM	#29529
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	This whole presidency is what happens when you hand the keys to the kingdom to the spoiled, privileged sibling who has skated through life on his/her trust account their whole life. America has become what the Hilton Hotel brand would be if Paris was named CEO 10 years ago.

10-07-2020, 03:52 PM	#29530
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I'd actually trust Paris Hilton as President more than Trump. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-07-2020, 04:03 PM	#29531
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	Trump could have bowed out during the primaries in 2016, said something along the lines of "I can do more to help make America great again by not being constrained by politics", started a news network to trash hillary's presidency 24/7, make 100s of millions, and been happier. His presidency will go down as one of the worst things for Trump and his family. All of them have countless investigations to look forward to from here on out.

10-07-2020, 04:31 PM	#29533
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	I just saw on Fox News that the Trump campaign has stopped ads in Ohio and Iowa because they are so "optimistic". I guess that is one way to put it.

10-07-2020, 05:07 PM	#29534
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Just saw a tweet that they've either pulled out or severely cut back ads in the entire Midwest. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-07-2020, 05:20 PM	#29535
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	That video that was just released, horrific....

10-07-2020, 05:31 PM	#29539
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Fox News poll Biden +10, Biden +39 among those who believe Covid is most important factor. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

10-07-2020, 05:39 PM	#29540
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Jesus, sorry I asked. "some people don't understand what therapeutic means" says the guy that has no clue what therapeutic means. This is like his bottom of the 9th, close my eyes and swing for the fences against a Phil Niekro knuckler moment. Free Regeneron for everyone and my truth, even when it is another lie, is the only "truth" that matters!!

10-07-2020, 05:46 PM	#29542
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	So we can prosecute terrorists and didn't need military courts in Guantanamo. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

10-07-2020, 05:53 PM	#29543
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	He says God sent him Covid. Ok. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

10-07-2020, 07:42 PM	#29548
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Godwin's law much?

10-07-2020, 08:27 PM	#29550
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	So 12,000 dead is worse than 210,000 (and growing) dead. Got it. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 10-07-2020 at 08:28 PM.

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