Invasion of Ukraine - Page 6

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 01:41 PM

Russian Ambassador pushes Big Lie: “the United States, where the legitimately elected president of the country was overthrown.” pic.twitter.com/bekfts0878 — Brennan Murphy (@brenonade) March 2, 2022

PilotMan · 03-02-2022, 01:45 PM

He handled it like, you know, someone who has spent a long time actually working in foreign affairs, and at the very least, had a working understanding of things, and the multiple influences on those decision and at least some grasp of his own opinions?

I mean...even that's a fairly low bar for a guy who was the UN Ambassador. But take away the 'working' part above and it's a pretty low bar for an average person, who suddenly got a job (any job) and actually gave a shit.

BYU 14 · 03-02-2022, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Russian Ambassador pushes Big Lie: “the United States, where the legitimately elected president of the country was overthrown.” pic.twitter.com/bekfts0878 — Brennan Murphy (@brenonade) March 2, 2022

Well that tweet wasn't up long

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 03:07 PM

This is depressing.

'Which do you think best describes Russia?' Communist: 42% Socialist: 13% Capitalist: 11% Something Else: 17% YouGov / March 1, 2022 / n=1495 / Onlinehttps://t.co/1XIbIo8Qs5 — Polling USA (@USA_Polling) March 2, 2022

Solecismic · 03-02-2022, 03:28 PM

The UN vote condemning the invasion went 141-5 (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) with 35 intentional abstentions (China, India most notably) and 12 that didn't vote (surprisingly including Venezuela).

Looking at the list, it's a remarkable show of unity. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to Putin.

With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda.

Unfortunately, none of this helps the Ukrainians today.

Lathum · 03-02-2022, 03:29 PM

WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

NobodyHere · 03-02-2022, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.

Lathum · 03-02-2022, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.

Yeah. I am now down the Wiki rabbit hole on it.

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 03:41 PM

India is a weird situation. Technically, they've been in violation of CAATSA for years. Trump threatened them a few times but ultimately waivered. Biden has mostly been quiet about it.

Atocep · 03-02-2022, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

The UN vote condemning the invasion went 141-5 (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) with 35 intentional abstentions (China, India most notably) and 12 that didn't vote (surprisingly including Venezuela).

Looking at the list, it's a remarkable show of unity. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to Putin.

With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda.

Unfortunately, none of this helps the Ukrainians today.

India receives a lot of military weapons from Russia, has received Russian support for their claims to Kashmir, and they fear China. So they feel anything that pushes Russia closer to China is bad for their interests in the long run.

Solecismic · 03-02-2022, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

It's in Africa so you don't have to worry about it.

Africa has more than its share of awful situations, but Eritrea could easily be the worst.

Eritrea - United States Department of State

I've read it compared to North Korea in terms of human rights and isolation many times.

sabotai · 03-02-2022, 03:49 PM

I was going to ask "Eritrea? Why? I get the other four but Eritrea seems kinda random".

Google gave me this article from a few years ago.

Russia-Eritrea Relations Grow with Planned Logistics Center

I guess Russia is doing in Eritrea what China is doing in basically the entire rest of the continent.

Edward64 · 03-02-2022, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solecismic

With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda. .

FWIW, specifically for India, I had posted this earlier.

Quote:

Interesting discussions going on in the r/India sub. Majority of commentators favor India's neutrality. Russia has supported India politically and militarily so in a way I get it. But lots of commentary on how Ukraine/Europe are racist and therefore, they shouldn't get India's support. I can see that if UK was getting invaded but don't think that should apply to Ukraine. Admittedly, India is in a difficult situation so being neutral is probably best position for them.

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 04:41 PM

Wow. The Germans have seized Alisher Usmanov's $800,000,000 yacht. https://t.co/KidKg8SeSb — Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) March 2, 2022

molson · 03-02-2022, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book

If you ever had Ethiopian food when you were in Seattle, it may have actually been Eritrean.

(We have an "Ethiopian" restaurant in Boise run by a refugee from Eritrea, and he makes Eritrean food. Which is almost the same thing)

Lathum · 03-02-2022, 04:47 PM

Zero desire to eat Ethiopian food.

molson · 03-02-2022, 04:47 PM

I love it. I may go tonight.

I've been to a bunch of Ethiopian restaurants in Seattle. I bet there's a lot of Eriteran refugees there. (And Ethiopian)

flere-imsaho · 03-02-2022, 04:53 PM

Ethiopian food is great. You're missing out, Lathum.

flere-imsaho · 03-02-2022, 04:53 PM

Speaking of that area in Africa, I learned about this the other day and it blew my mind: Bir Tawil - Wikipedia

miami_fan · 03-02-2022, 04:55 PM

NYT is reporting that Russia has taken over Kherson.

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 05:02 PM

Another thumbs up for Ethiopian food. Surprised the hell out of me. It's terrific. But I love spicy food.

Vince, Pt. II · 03-02-2022, 05:29 PM

I'll fourth the Ethiopian food recommendation.

Brian Swartz · 03-02-2022, 05:48 PM

Can't eat spicy food, so I guess that's a no for me.

molson · 03-02-2022, 05:50 PM

They do usually have non-spicy "toppings" (that's probably not the right term).

It's basically just your choice of vegetables and meat on a spongy bread that is also the utensil to pick up the veggies and meat with.

Spoiler

Lathum · 03-02-2022, 05:54 PM

Looks disgusting. Like piles of dog vomit with spring mix

RainMaker · 03-02-2022, 05:58 PM

It's just lentils, meat, and veggies.

I love Middle Eastern/Greek food a lot though too. Come to think of it, there isn't much food I don't like.

Solecismic · 03-02-2022, 06:08 PM

There is a restaurant in Ann Arbor, the Blue Nile, that has the reputation for putting together an authentic and excellent Ethiopian dinner. I meant to try it, but somehow never did because every time I looked at the menu, I wasn't enthused. But maybe I'd love it. There was a time I'd've said the same about Unagi (sushi from eel) and now I look forward to it whenever we do a takeout night (still can't get myself to dine in a restaurant).

sabotai · 03-02-2022, 06:27 PM

Unfortunately my genetics work against me. I'm a super-taster, which sounds like it should be awesome, but it fucking sucks. Quite a lot of things taste extremely bitter to me, and if even a little is in something, that's all I can taste. For example, if something has a little bit of green pepper in it, all I can taste is green pepper and it makes me want to vomit.

I'll try anything once (have to in order to expand my range of foods). Never had the chance to try Ethiopian, but I would. I just wouldn't hold out hope that it would be my new favorite thing.

JPhillips · 03-02-2022, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Looks disgusting. Like piles of dog vomit with spring mix

Doesn't look any more disgusting than a fajita platter.

Edward64 · 03-02-2022, 06:53 PM

I’ll try it but agree it doesn’t look that appetizing

Lathum · 03-02-2022, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips

Doesn't look any more disgusting than a fajita platter.

yes it does

GrantDawg · 03-02-2022, 07:52 PM

I will try anything. I have still never had good Indian food.

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

PilotMan · 03-02-2022, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

yes it does

Worse than Skyline Chili?

Edward64 · 03-02-2022, 07:57 PM

Indian food is pretty good but only once every other week or so for us. My wife and I used to go to a buffet which was pretty decent but haven't been (obviously) for the past 2+ years.

Wish they had more vegetables dishes that aren't mushed up though. The buffet place had regular salad/lettuce off to the side and I'm pretty sure that's not authentic Indian.

GrantDawg · 03-02-2022, 08:09 PM

I'm going to drive up to your side of town Edward, and you take me to a good Indian place and help me order. I am convinced I just don't know where to go and what to get that is good.

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

NobodyHere · 03-02-2022, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Worse than Skyline Chili?

All that cabin air must've ruined your sense of taste.

Solecismic · 03-02-2022, 08:18 PM

I used to feel that Indian food was the exception to the "something excellent in every cuisine" rule. In my last desk job, we had an intern in our group who grew up in India. I mentioned this to him, asked if there was any place around our office that felt authentic to him. He mentioned a place very close to work, so we went for lunch and I asked what he felt they did well there. Apparently there is a cuisine I don't get at all. My wife has a couple of dishes she'll make that use Indian sauces and that's about the only thing she makes that I'd prefer not to eat.

Edward64 · 03-02-2022, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

I'm going to drive up to your side of town Edward, and you take me to a good Indian place and help me order. I am convinced I just don't know where to go and what to get that is good.

Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

The key is to go to an Indian restaurant where you see many more Indians than non-Indians. If ever given a choice, don't order mild, not much taste.

Order medium which should be enough to make you sweat just ever so slightly. Never order high heat, you'll regret it.

The ones we go to at Cumming are below. There's probably another 5-7 near by that we haven't tried yet.

Bawarchi Biryanis » Menu
Inchin's Bamboo Garden Indo-Chinese & Pan Asian CuisineInchin's Bamboo Garden | Our Hallmark is Fresh Food
http://www.bukharaa.com/ (buffet, sentimental favorite, the first Indian restaurant when we moved here but there's now a ton of now)

Using Bawarchicumming as an example for me, wife & daughter

1) Butter Chicken or Chicken Curry
2) Garlic Naan appetizer (to dip in your curry)
3) Chicken Fried Rice (this is with chopped up tandoori chicken, daughter's favorite)

The above 3 are "safe". We order a different 3rd entree just to experiment

Bukharaa is okay. Because it was first in the area, I think it overly catered to westerners with the buffet. But check it out, buffet is a good intro to Indian food.

PilotMan · 03-02-2022, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

All that cabin air must've ruined your sense of taste.

Skyline, and all Cincinnati Chili is terrible. It shouldn't even be called chili.

JPhillips · 03-02-2022, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan

Skyline, and all Cincinnati Chili is terrible. It shouldn't even be called chili.

Fuck you, Pops!

CrimsonFox · 03-02-2022, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Zero desire to eat Ethiopian food.

If this were the 80s, one could hear teenagers making jokes like "You mean an empty plate?"

miked · 03-02-2022, 10:11 PM

If you are near Atlanta, Bhojanic is pretty good. Also, for Ethiopian, Desta is damn good.

Groundhog · 03-03-2022, 06:12 AM

I had an Ethiopian curry a few months ago and it surprised the heck out of me. The bread you dip in the curry has a mild sour taste which is right up my alley, and the curry was amazing - I have no idea what is actually in it.

Ksyrup · 03-03-2022, 07:50 AM

The war should end in a matter of days, guys. The international cat federation banned Russian cats from competition.

JPhillips · 03-03-2022, 08:49 AM

I read a fascinating thread from a former U.S. vehicle mechanic speculating that the convoy was due to the poor maintenance of Russian vehicles. He used some of the pictures of vehicles stuck in the mud to show blown tires and speculated the vehicles were moved regularly prior to the invasion and now the tire walls are brittle and subject to tears when they go off-road.

Lathum · 03-03-2022, 08:58 AM

I heard speculation Russian soldiers were punching holes in their own gas tanks.

It is pretty amazing they are trying to fight a war with a ground force that doesn't believe in the purpose.

Lathum · 03-03-2022, 11:27 AM

albionmoonlight · 03-03-2022, 12:14 PM

Considering the bravery of the Ukrainians, the unprofessionalism of the Russian military, and the united nature of the world response, things are going about as well as they possibly could at this point.

And Putin still has the ability (and, it appears, the plan based on the French reports of their talks with Russia) to either take over Ukraine, grind it into dust, or some combination of the two.

I'm still wondering about the endgame here. Putin will not turn tail and run. And Ukraine is not giving up. And millions of civilians are in the way.

Someone really, really, really needs to get rid of Putin.

cuervo72 · 03-03-2022, 12:21 PM

Yeah, this is my nagging feeling too. All the sanctions in the world probably aren't going to stop Putin from completely leveling the entire country if that's what it takes. Which it might, but nobody is willing to step in militarily to prevent that, so...

stevew · 03-03-2022, 12:39 PM

$4.89 for diesel by my house. Probably was a bad idea when I bought that Jetta Sportwagen TDi last summer.

03-02-2022, 01:45 PM	#252
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	He handled it like, you know, someone who has spent a long time actually working in foreign affairs, and at the very least, had a working understanding of things, and the multiple influences on those decision and at least some grasp of his own opinions? I mean...even that's a fairly low bar for a guy who was the UN Ambassador. But take away the 'working' part above and it's a pretty low bar for an average person, who suddenly got a job (any job) and actually gave a shit. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

03-02-2022, 03:29 PM	#256
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	WTF is Eritrea? Sounds like a made up land in a childrens book Last edited by Lathum : 03-02-2022 at 03:29 PM.

03-02-2022, 04:47 PM	#267
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	I love it. I may go tonight. I've been to a bunch of Ethiopian restaurants in Seattle. I bet there's a lot of Eriteran refugees there. (And Ethiopian) Last edited by molson : 03-02-2022 at 04:49 PM.

03-02-2022, 04:55 PM	#270
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	NYT is reporting that Russia has taken over Kherson. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

03-02-2022, 05:50 PM	#274
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	They do usually have non-spicy "toppings" (that's probably not the right term). It's basically just your choice of vegetables and meat on a spongy bread that is also the utensil to pick up the veggies and meat with. Spoiler Last edited by molson : 03-02-2022 at 05:51 PM.

03-02-2022, 01:41 PM	#251
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	`Russian Ambassador pushes Big Lie: “the United States, where the legitimately elected president of the country was overthrown.” pic.twitter.com/bekfts0878 — Brennan Murphy (@brenonade) March 2, 2022`

03-02-2022, 03:07 PM	#254
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	This is depressing. `'Which do you think best describes Russia?' Communist: 42% Socialist: 13% Capitalist: 11% Something Else: 17% YouGov / March 1, 2022 / n=1495 / Onlinehttps://t.co/1XIbIo8Qs5 — Polling USA (@USA_Polling) March 2, 2022`

03-02-2022, 03:28 PM	#255
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	The UN vote condemning the invasion went 141-5 (Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Syria, Eritrea) with 35 intentional abstentions (China, India most notably) and 12 that didn't vote (surprisingly including Venezuela). Looking at the list, it's a remarkable show of unity. I don't know if that sort of thing matters to Putin. With India, there's the persistent narrative on Twitter that middle eastern and Asian students (and Pakistan is expressing the same concern) are not being protected by Ukraine. Coinciding with the Russian claim that they are being used as human shields. Still, an abstention rather than a no vote, and, like China, they are calling for a political solution. Hopefully, there's some way to show the world that those claims are only Russian propaganda. Unfortunately, none of this helps the Ukrainians today.

03-02-2022, 03:41 PM	#259
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	India is a weird situation. Technically, they've been in violation of CAATSA for years. Trump threatened them a few times but ultimately waivered. Biden has mostly been quiet about it.

03-02-2022, 03:49 PM	#262
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I was going to ask "Eritrea? Why? I get the other four but Eritrea seems kinda random". Google gave me this article from a few years ago. Russia-Eritrea Relations Grow with Planned Logistics Center I guess Russia is doing in Eritrea what China is doing in basically the entire rest of the continent.

03-02-2022, 04:41 PM	#264
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	`Wow. The Germans have seized Alisher Usmanov's $800,000,000 yacht. https://t.co/KidKg8SeSb — Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) March 2, 2022`

03-02-2022, 04:47 PM	#266
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Zero desire to eat Ethiopian food.

03-02-2022, 04:53 PM	#268
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Ethiopian food is great. You're missing out, Lathum.

03-02-2022, 04:53 PM	#269
flere-imsaho Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chicagoland	Speaking of that area in Africa, I learned about this the other day and it blew my mind: Bir Tawil - Wikipedia

03-02-2022, 05:02 PM	#271
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Another thumbs up for Ethiopian food. Surprised the hell out of me. It's terrific. But I love spicy food.

03-02-2022, 05:29 PM	#272
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	I'll fourth the Ethiopian food recommendation.

03-02-2022, 05:48 PM	#273
Brian Swartz Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2006	Can't eat spicy food, so I guess that's a no for me.

03-02-2022, 05:54 PM	#275
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Looks disgusting. Like piles of dog vomit with spring mix

03-02-2022, 05:58 PM	#276
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	It's just lentils, meat, and veggies. I love Middle Eastern/Greek food a lot though too. Come to think of it, there isn't much food I don't like.

03-02-2022, 06:08 PM	#277
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	There is a restaurant in Ann Arbor, the Blue Nile, that has the reputation for putting together an authentic and excellent Ethiopian dinner. I meant to try it, but somehow never did because every time I looked at the menu, I wasn't enthused. But maybe I'd love it. There was a time I'd've said the same about Unagi (sushi from eel) and now I look forward to it whenever we do a takeout night (still can't get myself to dine in a restaurant).

03-02-2022, 06:27 PM	#278
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Unfortunately my genetics work against me. I'm a super-taster, which sounds like it should be awesome, but it fucking sucks. Quite a lot of things taste extremely bitter to me, and if even a little is in something, that's all I can taste. For example, if something has a little bit of green pepper in it, all I can taste is green pepper and it makes me want to vomit. I'll try anything once (have to in order to expand my range of foods). Never had the chance to try Ethiopian, but I would. I just wouldn't hold out hope that it would be my new favorite thing.

03-02-2022, 06:53 PM	#280
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	I’ll try it but agree it doesn’t look that appetizing

03-02-2022, 07:52 PM	#282
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I will try anything. I have still never had good Indian food. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

03-02-2022, 07:57 PM	#284
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Indian food is pretty good but only once every other week or so for us. My wife and I used to go to a buffet which was pretty decent but haven't been (obviously) for the past 2+ years. Wish they had more vegetables dishes that aren't mushed up though. The buffet place had regular salad/lettuce off to the side and I'm pretty sure that's not authentic Indian.

03-02-2022, 08:09 PM	#285
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	I'm going to drive up to your side of town Edward, and you take me to a good Indian place and help me order. I am convinced I just don't know where to go and what to get that is good. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk

03-02-2022, 08:18 PM	#287
Solecismic Solecismic Software Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Canton, OH	I used to feel that Indian food was the exception to the "something excellent in every cuisine" rule. In my last desk job, we had an intern in our group who grew up in India. I mentioned this to him, asked if there was any place around our office that felt authentic to him. He mentioned a place very close to work, so we went for lunch and I asked what he felt they did well there. Apparently there is a cuisine I don't get at all. My wife has a couple of dishes she'll make that use Indian sauces and that's about the only thing she makes that I'd prefer not to eat.

03-02-2022, 10:11 PM	#292
miked College Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The Dirty	If you are near Atlanta, Bhojanic is pretty good. Also, for Ethiopian, Desta is damn good. __________________ Commish of the United Baseball League (OOTP 6.5)

03-03-2022, 06:12 AM	#293
Groundhog Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia	I had an Ethiopian curry a few months ago and it surprised the heck out of me. The bread you dip in the curry has a mild sour taste which is right up my alley, and the curry was amazing - I have no idea what is actually in it. __________________ Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. --Ambrose Bierce

03-03-2022, 07:50 AM	#294
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	The war should end in a matter of days, guys. The international cat federation banned Russian cats from competition. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

03-03-2022, 08:49 AM	#295
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	I read a fascinating thread from a former U.S. vehicle mechanic speculating that the convoy was due to the poor maintenance of Russian vehicles. He used some of the pictures of vehicles stuck in the mud to show blown tires and speculated the vehicles were moved regularly prior to the invasion and now the tire walls are brittle and subject to tears when they go off-road. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

03-03-2022, 08:58 AM	#296
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I heard speculation Russian soldiers were punching holes in their own gas tanks. It is pretty amazing they are trying to fight a war with a ground force that doesn't believe in the purpose.

03-03-2022, 11:27 AM	#297
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ

03-03-2022, 12:14 PM	#298
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	Considering the bravery of the Ukrainians, the unprofessionalism of the Russian military, and the united nature of the world response, things are going about as well as they possibly could at this point. And Putin still has the ability (and, it appears, the plan based on the French reports of their talks with Russia) to either take over Ukraine, grind it into dust, or some combination of the two. I'm still wondering about the endgame here. Putin will not turn tail and run. And Ukraine is not giving up. And millions of civilians are in the way. Someone really, really, really needs to get rid of Putin.

03-03-2022, 12:21 PM	#299
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Yeah, this is my nagging feeling too. All the sanctions in the world probably aren't going to stop Putin from completely leveling the entire country if that's what it takes. Which it might, but nobody is willing to step in militarily to prevent that, so... __________________ null Last edited by cuervo72 : 03-03-2022 at 12:21 PM. Reason: I don't know why my keyboard always puts in extra periods in random places

03-03-2022, 12:39 PM	#300
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	$4.89 for diesel by my house. Probably was a bad idea when I bought that Jetta Sportwagen TDi last summer.