NFL Week 7 - Page 6

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 10-21-2013, 02:05 PM

The WRs aren't helping things but Brady is off. He's missing a bunch of throws. I've watched every snap.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff061

Jets game was all Brady stinking, not going to put any blame on the receivers. They were getting open and he was missing them.

Two parts of being open. First is getting open while the 2nd is getting open in spots where Brady is expecting it and in time for him to not be flat on his back by the time the WR is open.

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Brady did grade out poorly on Sunday(-6.6). Thompkins (-1.0) and Edelman (-1.6). The others WRs all graded above average.

gstelmack · 10-21-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Well it would seem strange that a first ballot HOF'er and one of the most accurate qbs to ever play the game suddenly cant hit a target within 5 yards.

Timing off, WRs not running where he expects them would make more sense to me rather than thinking suddenly Brady cant come within 5 yards of a WR target on some plays.

It's not "sudden", he's been getting more and more off with his throws over the last couple of seasons.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs3

The WRs aren't helping things but Brady is off. He's missing a bunch of throws. I've watched every snap.

I agree he is very off. But I dont think the problem will solve itself. They need to get WRs that the HOF QB trusts so he can get back to himself.

Brady is used to a slot guy that ran precise routes or WRs that would go make plays.

These guys just arent making any plays and obviously it is getting in Bradys head. He should take more of a leadership role and try and help them out and give them confidence but I guess that is not his nature.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

It's not "sudden", he's been getting more and more off with his throws over the last couple of seasons.

Sort of I guess.

He went from #1 in 2010, to #3 in 2011, to #6 in 2012. Now this year he is sitting at #22 in PFF rating.

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Neuqua · 10-21-2013, 02:33 PM

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-21-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Time for some BBQ and Hawaiian Punch!

molson · 10-21-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

Sort of I guess.

He went from #1 in 2010, to #3 in 2011, to #6 in 2012. Now this year he is sitting at #22 in PFF rating.

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He didn't become this big stat/deep throw threat until the last 4 or 5 seasons. His QB rating in each of his last 5 seasons are all better than any of his first 6. Before '07, he was the QB that led a winning team, but you didn't want him as your starting fantasy QB.

Coffee Warlord · 10-21-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Neuqua

Just had the same discussion with a few buddies. You figure they'll still tag Cutler, and the offensive pieces are actually in pretty good shape for next season.

But I'd imagine the defense is going to be completely revamped next year. Peppers isn't going to be worth keeping around at his cap number. Tillman? Melton? May be silly of me but I am thus far a fan of the Emery/Trestman regime and want to see how next summer plays out.

I'm thus far pro Emery/Trestman. Though Emery deserves some smacks for the McClellin draft pick, UNLESS the Bears go 3-4 next year (which, given the above mass rebuilding of the defense, is a possibility). McClellin is clearly not a 4-3 defensive end.

I do agree, the best move is tagging Cutler next year. From what I understand, it's a good QB class this year, so there's a chance the Bears can get a potential future QB there - though then we get the fun of at least 1 full season of annoying fans and media manufacturing a QB controversy.

RainMaker · 10-21-2013, 03:10 PM

Emery has been pretty terrible in drafting so far. His free agent pickups seem to be a wash. And his coaching staff looks bad. Not sure why anyone is high on him at this point.

Galaril · 10-21-2013, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

See Patriots 2007-present

Yup exactly. How many SB the Pats won since 07?

Ronnie Dobbs3 · 10-21-2013, 04:12 PM

It's amazing how if Welker catches a few balls he dropped and/or Seymour brings Eli down then all of a sudden high powered offenses no longer need defenses.

ColtCrazy · 10-21-2013, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

Ugh. Reggie Wayne.

I hear you. As much as I've been impressed with Luck, Wayne is his safety valve. The Colts now lack that reliable 3rd down receiver. Wonder if they go see what's available in FA.

Danny · 10-21-2013, 06:06 PM

Dont like seeing Wayne get hurt at all. In general I hate seeing all these major injuries.

ColtCrazy · 10-21-2013, 06:10 PM

He's definitely one of the great professionals. Classy….feel bad for him.

Atocep · 10-21-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Emery has been pretty terrible in drafting so far. His free agent pickups seem to be a wash. And his coaching staff looks bad. Not sure why anyone is high on him at this point.

Long and Mills are two of the best rookies out of this draft class and Jeffrey has been a top 15-20 receiver this year. Bostic probably should have been starting week one and Greene/Wilson look like they could be valuable players.

His first draft, which he didn't get a full offseason to prepare for, wasn't very good. This past draft looks outstanding thus far. It's a big stretch to call that terrible drafting.

The only problem I have with the coaching staff thus far is Mel Tucker. Trying to keep Lovie's defense and blend it with Mel Tucker's playcalling has been a disaster.

fpres · 10-21-2013, 06:17 PM

Foster with an injured hamstring
Tate with four broken ribs
Cushing with a torn LCL and broken fibula
Cierre Wood, Sam Montgomery, and Willie Jefferson waived for violating team rules

The past 24 hours have made a crappy season worse. Still a Texans fan though.

Desnudo · 10-21-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

I AM SHOCKED

Patriots Had Cheated Before On FGs; Jets Warned Officials

Shocked that the patriots try and game the system like every team or shocked that the Jets tattled again because they can't win through better coaching or players?

cuervo72 · 10-21-2013, 06:32 PM

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Desnudo

Shocked that the patriots try and game the system like every team or shocked that the Jets tattled again because they can't win through better coaching or players?

In reality I think it was good coaching to be on the alert for that and warn the refs so they could call it.

I am not sure why this is even a story. As you said "like every other team."

cuervo72 · 10-21-2013, 07:41 PM

Skycam on kickoffs makes me a little queasy.

Thomkal · 10-21-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

And another one bites the dust...

Sam Bradford of St. Louis Rams suffers torn ACL, source says - ESPN

That leaves Kelln Clemens as the only other QB on the Rams roster. Sounds like a good place for the triumphant return of Tyler Thigpen to the NFL...

Okay maybe not.

Well maybe so? He's working out for the Rams along with Brady Quinn, who just got cut by the Jets, so maybe my man Tyler will be back in the NFL after all.

Oh and for Cuervo-they did discuss Tebow, but not very seriously.

Lathum · 10-21-2013, 08:08 PM

Refs miss an obvious block in the back.

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 08:08 PM

can;t even horse collar tackle right.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 08:12 PM

Giants manage to hold the ball around 13 minutes that quarter and find themselves down. Kind of a conservative gameplan against a horrible secondary.

EagleFan · 10-21-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Refs miss an obvious block in the back.

I didn't see the play, only that last replay before commercial. Please tell me that wasn't what you were referring to as that was clean.

EagleFan · 10-21-2013, 08:14 PM

Really, kickoff, commercial, one play, commercial. They couldn't have skipped that first commercial break?

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Really, kickoff, commercial, one play, commercial. They couldn't have skipped that first commercial break?

Well the Giants first drive took up 2/3 of the quarter on the first drive so they didnt get their normal commercial breaks. Blame it on their dink and dump gameplan

Lathum · 10-21-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Really, kickoff, commercial, one play, commercial. They couldn't have skipped that first commercial break?

Have to make up for no commercials during a nine as a half minute opening drive.

Lathum · 10-21-2013, 08:17 PM

Can Nicks please catch a ball that hits him in the hands. Not doing a great job of showcasing himself.

EagleFan · 10-21-2013, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Have to make up for no commercials during a nine as a half minute opening drive.

ah, just turned it on so that was all I saw so far. Now an injury commercial break. Maybe if I turn it off the game will get moving again.

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 08:19 PM

I need 2 yards from Peterson for a win in fantasy football. C'mon man.

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 08:27 PM

Cruz is the only Giant who can play

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

I need 2 yards from Peterson for a win in fantasy football. C'mon man.

LOL

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 08:32 PM

The Giants finally start taking advantage of the Vikings weak corners there.

spleen1015 · 10-21-2013, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by General Mike

Cruz is the only Giant who can play

How can that be? Eli is better than Peyton!

cuervo72 · 10-21-2013, 08:37 PM

PETERSON FOR ABOUT TWO YARDS!

jbergey22 · 10-21-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

PETERSON FOR ABOUT TWO YARDS!

he caught a pass for around 20 yards. General Mike should be good.

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

he caught a pass for around 20 yards. General Mike should be good.

Until he fumbles.

Jas_lov · 10-21-2013, 08:46 PM

The NFL really needs to stop showing these shit fests in its feature games. There are a number of mid-level games they could have flexed in. I don't understand why they don't flex for MNF as well as SNF and do it the whole year. The Vikings are featured again next week on SNF! At least we have Thursday night football to look forward to. Carolina-TB, should be a barn burner.

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

The NFL really needs to stop showing these shit fests in its feature games. There are a number of mid-level games they could have flexed in. I don't understand why they don't flex for MNF as well as SNF and do it the whole year. The Vikings are featured again next week on SNF! At least we have Thursday night football to look forward to. Carolina-TB, should be a barn burner.

Much harder to flex into Monday Night games. Changing game times is one thing, but game dates is a much bigger problem.

Radii · 10-21-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov

Carolina-TB, should be a barn burner.

Thursday night games seem to be shitfests no matter who is playing in them. I enjoy when Thursday night games are between two inconsequential teams so I don't feel any need to watch at all.

Dutch · 10-21-2013, 08:58 PM

I laughed at the Jerome Simpson fake-injury to ensure the flag is thrown. That would never happen in the NFL!

Dutch · 10-21-2013, 09:00 PM

Jared Allen with the amazing one-arm around the left tackle for the QB sack. So awesome!

General Mike · 10-21-2013, 09:03 PM

I don't usually watch Monday Night Football, so I had no idea how annoying Jon Gruden and Tirico are.

JPhillips · 10-21-2013, 09:06 PM

I heard Carl Banks say on the radio, "Justin Tuck literally got beheaded on that play." Maybe football is too violent to continue.

PilotMan · 10-21-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike D

I laughed at the Jerome Simpson fake-injury to ensure the flag is thrown. That would never happen in the NFL!

yeah I got that impression too

Matthean · 10-21-2013, 09:07 PM

Dutch · 10-21-2013, 09:07 PM

I think Gruden does a pretty decent job.

Bigsmooth · 10-21-2013, 09:08 PM

I can only imagine how annoying Gruden will be next Monday night with Russell Wilson in the house. I mean, I love me some Russ, but Gruden will be over the top.

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Ronnie Dobbs3 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2013	The WRs aren't helping things but Brady is off. He's missing a bunch of throws. I've watched every snap.

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RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Emery has been pretty terrible in drafting so far. His free agent pickups seem to be a wash. And his coaching staff looks bad. Not sure why anyone is high on him at this point.

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Ronnie Dobbs3 High School Varsity Join Date: Feb 2013	It's amazing how if Welker catches a few balls he dropped and/or Seymour brings Eli down then all of a sudden high powered offenses no longer need defenses.

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Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Dont like seeing Wayne get hurt at all. In general I hate seeing all these major injuries.

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fpres High School JV Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Houston, Texas	Foster with an injured hamstring Tate with four broken ribs Cushing with a torn LCL and broken fibula Cierre Wood, Sam Montgomery, and Willie Jefferson waived for violating team rules The past 24 hours have made a crappy season worse. Still a Texans fan though.

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Refs miss an obvious block in the back.

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General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	can;t even horse collar tackle right.

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jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Giants manage to hold the ball around 13 minutes that quarter and find themselves down. Kind of a conservative gameplan against a horrible secondary.

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Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Can Nicks please catch a ball that hits him in the hands. Not doing a great job of showcasing himself.

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General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	I need 2 yards from Peterson for a win in fantasy football. C'mon man.

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General Mike Pro Starter Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: The State of Rutgers	Cruz is the only Giant who can play

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jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	The Giants finally start taking advantage of the Vikings weak corners there.

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Jas_lov College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000	The NFL really needs to stop showing these shit fests in its feature games. There are a number of mid-level games they could have flexed in. I don't understand why they don't flex for MNF as well as SNF and do it the whole year. The Vikings are featured again next week on SNF! At least we have Thursday night football to look forward to. Carolina-TB, should be a barn burner.

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Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I laughed at the Jerome Simpson fake-injury to ensure the flag is thrown. That would never happen in the NFL!

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Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	I think Gruden does a pretty decent job.

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Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	I can only imagine how annoying Gruden will be next Monday night with Russell Wilson in the house. I mean, I love me some Russ, but Gruden will be over the top.

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