Werewolf XCVII - Labyrinth II (GAME OVER - COMMONERS WIN!)

[The Jackal]

A BOOMING ROAR echoes through the Labyrinth.

This can only mean one thing - the Minotaur has begun to move.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Before it gets asked, role reveals will occur on death.

I quote this because I was expecting even if Dubb is the phoenix, I would have expected a role reveal because he did die.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

You'll find out at the next phase, won't you?

I guess we will you wacky Jester you.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

I quote this because I was expecting even if Dubb is the phoenix, I would have expected a role reveal because he did die.

I know I said that, and I'm really just having some fun with you. I think I made it fairly clear he was the Phoenix in the post and most of you have surmised that, if you guys need me to confirm it I will since I did say so in the rules.

And just an FYI - all night abilities (including the NK) get returned at the noon deadline, along with noon movements. You may factor this into your lynch voting however you like.

[The Jackal]

Will try to clarify this for all in case anyone is still confused, please ask questions if you have 'em.

When you move in a direction, you orientate that way. So if you have the option to move straight or right and you move right, you turn towards the right. Any options you have from that room are based on facing in that direction.

And here's how the timeline works (with 9 as the start point since that's where we are)

9 PM - Movement and Lynch deadline (all movements due by 9)
9 PM - 12 PM noon - All night actions need to be submitted.
12 PM - Movement deadline (yes, you have two moves per day) and night actions processed

I'll be around for any questions.

[Thomkal]

okay sorry to be so pig-headed about that, but I just didn't want us all walking down the "Dubb is the Phoenix" path if there was no reason to.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Thomkal

okay sorry to be so pig-headed about that, but I just didn't want us all walking down the "Dubb is the Phoenix" path if there was no reason to.

All good, I should've just said it in the first place. But the Jester has to establish his character, don't you know.

[The Jackal]

OK - Anyone that submitted a movement should have been moved. Next moves are due by noon. Enjoy.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

All good, I should've just said it in the first place. But the Jester has to establish his character, don't you know.

He certainly has, so please don't turn me into a pig now.

[Autumn]

Well, I'm heading out. Hopefully there will be something tomorrow to base a vote on. Later.

[The Jackal]

TICK

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TICK

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TICK.

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TICK..

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TICK...

[The Jackal]

[The Jackal]

The Inferno Device has been activated!

Lathum is blown to smitherines!

Lathum was the Ancient of Earth!

[Chief Rum]

Umm...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

The Inferno Device has been activated!

Lathum is blown to smitherines!

Lathum was the Ancient of Earth!

Wow!

Okay, I am feeling a lot better about Martin now.

I wonder if the Inferno activator will come out? I know there's a role that searches for it, but I forget who that is.

[ntndeacon]

It worked!

[Lathum]

umm

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

It worked!

You did this, ntn?

[ntndeacon]

Yes I did. I had to decide immediately on finding it.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

umm

lmao...u got done 'sploded!

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Yes I did. I had to decide immediately on finding it.

So what's your role again?

(and good job...)

[Lathum]

2 games in a row a villager made a boneheaded move and got lucky.

[Tyrith]

Well, at least this time I'm on the correct side of dumb luck.

[Danny]

Sorry guys, my Internet went down and just came back up 15 minutes or so ago. Looks like we had a great day as far as results.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

2 games in a row a villager made a boneheaded move and got lucky.

What was boneheaded about choosing to find the device in you, and finding it? ntn made the right choice to look for it in you (apparently), and then he made another right choice in exploding you. Not like you were without suspicion today.

Admittedly you're always "under suspicion", but if you have a problem with that, you may need to change your play style.

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

2 games in a row a villager made a boneheaded move and got lucky.

Assuming Martin is Nostra then it's not stupid at all.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

What was boneheaded about choosing to find the device in you, and finding it? ntn made the right choice to look for it in you (apparently), and then he made another right choice in exploding you. Not like you were without suspicion today.

Admittedly you're always "under suspicion", but if you have a problem with that, you may need to change your play style.

It's a bonehead move on D1 to kill an unknown player, the odds are OVERWHELMING that it will be a villager and in a game where everyone has a role it's an even worse move.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

It's a bonehead move on D1 to kill an unknown player, the odds are OVERWHELMING that it will be a villager and in a game where everyone has a role it's an even worse move.

Actually, there were already four "cleared" people, with the telepaths and dubb. And ntn wasn't going to search himself. And there are four wolves (assuming all roles) and the Minotaur doesn't seem much help to anyone either. That's more than a 35% chance that ntn's "random" choice was a good one, and the odds are good it would not be one of the top villager roles.

Add on top of that that ntn had to make a decision right away and had found the device in you, a person of suspicion, it seems to me it was an understandable call, and not boneheaded at all. And of course it ended up being brilliant.

[Danny]

I. Lathum - blown up by the inferno device night 1 - Ancient of Earth
II. dubb93 - lynched day 1 - Phoenix
III. RendeR
IV. ntndeacon - Inferno Hunter
V. Autumn
VI. Abe Sargent
VII. Schmidty
VIII. JAG
IX. hoopsguy - Telepath
X. lerriuqs
XI. Danny - Telepath
XII. Barkeep49
XIII. Chief Rum
XIV. Tyrith
XV. MartinD
XVI. Thomkal
XVII. Passacaglia
XVIII. DaddyTorgo - Telepath
XIX. nfg22

[Danny]

dubb 8 (BK 102, Autumn 141, Martin 158, Abe 165, Pass 167, ntn 185, lerriuqs 190, hoops 198)
Martin 7 (nfg 135, Lathum 144, JAG 154, Chief Rum 178, Tyrith 184, RendeR 191, Schmidty 207)
BK 2 (dubb 103, Thomkal 146)

Not Voted - DT, Danny

[Lathum]

threadjack over, it's a poor move

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Lathum

threadjack over, it's a poor move

[Danny]

Also to note MartinD casted the second vote on Lathum and Lathum voted for MartinD helping him to be a candidate. I think it is unlikely MartinD puts that vote on Lathum as a wolf and vice verse, so while he is not cleared, we can probably look elsewhere for now.

Before my internet went down I considered voting Lathum because of his initial comment stating it was strange people checked in as vanilla villagers. Its something I didn't notice at all. BK agreed with lathum here which I also found odd as I still hadn't noticed this. BK might be someone worth checking out.

[Danny]

Vote count as of post #150

Lathum 2 (ntn 99, Martin 127)
dubb 2 (BK 102, Autumn 141)
Martin 2 (nfg 135, Lathum 144)
BK 2 (dubb 103, Thomkal 146)
ntn 1 (Tyrith 92)

I'm interested in seeing who broke this tie and established Dubb and Martin as the two candidates.

[Passacaglia]

FYI, my read was that Martin was Nostradamus also -- another part of why I voted dubb (thinking back to the reason I gave, the fact that hoops is cleared puts a damper on that line of thinking, but the Nostradamus angle was still valid). I also thought the night deadline was midnight, not noon. Whoops.

[Danny]

#151 Abe voted Dubb and broke the four way tie
#154 Jag voted Martin D and broke the three way tie with him, Lathum and Barkeep
#158 Martin unvoted Lathum and voted Dubb.

At this point the vote is 4-3 Dubb/Martin

Then in #162 Abe unvoted Dubb and voted Schmidty. This happened after Lathum had been dropped from the main discussion and only had one vote.

Then in #165 Abe unvoted Schmidty and voted Dubb again since Schmidty checked in.

After that candidates were pretty clearly established, so it's hard to read much into any votes at that point.

I think a wolf would want to establish and early vote on Dubb especially with Lathum potentially on the block and his vote already on Martin.

Because of this, my suspicion list is primarly BK, Autumn, Abe and Jag. BK and Autumn for their early voted on Dubb and Abe and Jag for establishing Martin and Dubb as the candidates instead of Lathum.

[ntndeacon]

12 am is midnight.

I will say it was luck that the inferno device was in Lathum. I will reserve all other comments and reasons for doing what I did until after ithe game is over and hopefully we win.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

#151 Abe voted Dubb and broke the four way tie
#154 Jag voted Martin D and broke the three way tie with him, Lathum and Barkeep
#158 Martin unvoted Lathum and voted Dubb.

At this point the vote is 4-3 Dubb/Martin

Then in #162 Abe unvoted Dubb and voted Schmidty. This happened after Lathum had been dropped from the main discussion and only had one vote.

Then in #165 Abe unvoted Schmidty and voted Dubb again since Schmidty checked in.

After that candidates were pretty clearly established, so it's hard to read much into any votes at that point.

I think a wolf would want to establish and early vote on Dubb especially with Lathum potentially on the block and his vote already on Martin.

Because of this, my suspicion list is primarly BK, Autumn, Abe and Jag. BK and Autumn for their early voted on Dubb and Abe and Jag for establishing Martin and Dubb as the candidates instead of Lathum.

Something to consdier: aren't there a couple roles that can't be lynched? That power would tend to remove that player's desire to avoid suspicious votes. He wouldn't really care then and would simply vote how he felt.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

2 games in a row a villager made a boneheaded move and got lucky.

You know what? I've been silent about this so far, asshole. But I'm sick and tired of your whiny ass bitching. You sound like a fucking broken record, and it's getting old. You want to get on my ass, fine. But to keep insulting me is beyond rude. Shut the fuck up already.

I did what I did because of the posts that Tyrith made within the hour or so before the lynch (and his prior ones), and the fact that he was OBVIOUSLY pushing me in a certain direction. I made a call, and I wouldn't regret it even if I had gotten it wrong. If you don't like it, shove it up your ass.

I disagree with you a lot, but I've always liked you too. But at this point, I'm tired of your act. You are an asshole.

[lerriuqs]

Just a note for tomorrow - I'm hoping to be home tomorrow before the Day 2 deadline but I won't be around at 12 noon to see the results of the night. I'll be out all day, but I can't guarantee I'll be around at 9 tomorrow night...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You know what? I've been silent about this so far, asshole. But I'm sick and tired of your whiny ass bitching. You sound like a fucking broken record, and it's getting old. You want to get on my ass, fine. But to keep insulting me is beyond rude. Shut the fuck up already.

I did what I did because of the posts that Tyrith made within the hour or so before the lynch (and his prior ones), and the fact that he was OBVIOUSLY pushing me in a certain direction. I made a call, and I wouldn't regret it even if I had gotten it wrong. If you don't like it, shove it up your ass.

I disagree with you a lot, but I've always liked you too. But at this point, I'm tired of your act. You are an asshole.

I'm sorry, do you actually play these games or just sign up, never check in, miss deadlines and votes, then get ass backwards lucky on a dumb fuck play only a pea brained moron would make?

The most amazing thing about the play you made last game was you were actually around to make it.

[Lathum]

dola- I guess you have a right to be annoyed, you actually contributed something for the first time is 4 years and I should have been proud of you for making that breakthrough.

Well done.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I'm sorry, do you actually play these games or just sign up, never check in, miss deadlines and votes, then get ass backwards lucky on a dumb fuck play only a pea brained moron would make?

The most amazing thing about the play you made last game was you were actually around to make it.

You are literally the biggest douchebag since Blade.

I have a life. Maybe I shouldn't have played WW as much in the past, but I think the biggest thing is that you should GET a life.

Wow. I'm sad. I actually realized that you truly are an ass. It's not just a WW thing. Very disappointing.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

You are literally the biggest douchebag since Blade.

I have a life. Maybe I shouldn't have played WW as much in the past, but I think the biggest thing is that you should GET a life.

Wow. I'm sad. I actually realized that you truly are an ass. It's not just a WW thing. Very disappointing.

I know right, but hey, maybe I am around because I can afford a washer and dryer so I don't need to grab some quarters and hit the tub-o-subs.

and way to insult all the other people who post alot, many who post more then I do.

[Schmidty]

I really hope we can have a Seattle FOFC get-together we were planning before. I would really like that right now.

[Schmidty]

[quote=Lathum;2056394]I know right, but hey, maybe I am around because I can afford a washer and dryer so I don't need to grab some quarters and hit the tub-o-subs./QUOTE]

My washer just died. I can't put it in on my own in one day. I already have one being delivered. Why I'm telling you that, I have no idea.

You are truly a mean, pathetic little man. I can't believe I ever respected you.