WW LXXIV Killer Kittens on Mount FujiMori day (GAME OVER- KITTENS WIN) - Page 6

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 09:46 AM

Right now then, on me are: St. Cronin, Chief Rum, Alan T.

St. Cronin I think is on me because he feels I spread things out too much with my first vote, which also happened to be on him.

Chief Rum because I drafted poorly

Alan T. because, well, I don't know, but I probably don't want to vote for a guy on his birthday.

I have three very good veteran players on which would make it hard to turn things around on any of them, at least until there is a more defined voting or track record.

hoopsguy · 05-30-2008, 09:51 AM

Of those three, I think Chief's logic was the most suspect (yes, I get that it is Day 1), followed by Cronin, and Alan (who I pretty much agree with in his viewing the voting dynamic).

But I'm more inclined to look to my list, because I know I'm not a wolf while I suspect you are not. I also think the vote/unvote stuff with Heinz + Eagle is considerably more suspect than Cronin.

I'm also finding it interesting how accomodating you are capable of being with your neck on the line alongside mine Day 1. Usually I find you to be the hardest guy in the room to persuade that my thoughts make sense

jeheinz72 · 05-30-2008, 09:53 AM

Hoops (et al) I voted for you because I thought we were headed for a 2-person showdown and people (IIRC Cronin and Lathum) were pushing that we had too many candidates and it was time to consolidate. Given that I'm a kitteh and am more or less voting randomly, I picked between you and PB.

Why you over PB? Just gut really. And I wanted to see where it led us. FTR, it led me to think you're sounding a lot like you did in the Chess game on Day One, when you were a wolf. But that could just be my wishful thinking.

I think given the events I'd be interested in looking at Lathum and Cronin. It's a pretty simple wolf battle plan to be opportunistic and pull the "ok no more new candidates" ploy if the leading vote getters and/or most of the vote getters overall weren't wolves.

Particularly peculiar is Cronin who has always championed the "Vote for who you think is a wolf, vote-count be damned" line of thinking but now says we are too spread out.

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 09:55 AM

I'll be honest, I have no idea how to even try to get out of a day 1 lynch. I'm a terrible day 1 player, no matter which side I'm on. I argue and base my decisions on what I've seen but on day 1 MOST votes are random, with the wolves at a big advantage of being able to swing things. I feel like all I can say is "I'm good" which just sounds wolfy. How do you argue against "random vote" or "he picked Shie Lebouf"?

Accomodating=lost/desparate at this point! Hell Hoops, if I'm willing to listen to whatever you say, I am in trouble.

KWhit · 05-30-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Particularly peculiar is Cronin who has always championed the "Vote for who you think is a wolf, vote-count be damned" line of thinking but now says we are too spread out.

That's a great point. He was all over my ass in one of the earlier games because I did that (voted for one of the two top vote getters).

Where did he make comments the other way in this game? I may have missed it.

If he really is changing his stance like that, he'd be pinging my wolfdar.

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

That's a great point. He was all over my ass in one of the earlier games because I did that (voted for one of the two top vote getters).

Where did he make comments the other way in this game? I may have missed it.

If he really is changing his stance like that, he'd be pinging my wolfdar.

To the best of my knowledge hedidn't say it, but he argued for less candidates, I threw my vote out on him actually, and then he immediately unvoted and voted me which got an early snowball going. I am *conjecturing* that that is why he voted for me.

mccollins · 05-30-2008, 10:07 AM

What's the deal with a throwaway? Why is that viewed as negative?

No one knows who to vote for. I didn't want to vote for hoops or PB because:
1) I think hoops gets a raw deal for being an experienced player, and
2) I became pawn buddies with PB last game.

I didn't want to place a 2nd vote on someone and be the leader driving suspicion on some random person. So I wanted to pick someone who had no vote on them and who also could be a wolf hiding out with their vote on one of the leaders.

So I picked Eagle. I'll switch closer to deadline out of self-preservation if need be.

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:08 AM

When exactly is the deadline again?

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:09 AM

FYI, I was right, I am being forced to WORK (the humanity) so anyone wants to keep updates of votes, is appreciated!

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:09 AM

noon EST

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:12 AM

Actually, this line of thinking has heinz pinging my wolfdar. It's Day 1. I know that cronin usually says vote for who you think is a wolf without worrying about vote count, but this is Day 1 -- does anyone really think that someone else is a wolf with more than 20-25% certainty (that's a rhetorical question -- I don't want to get in a probabilities pissing match here)? Too many candidates make it hard to tell who the wolves were trying to save close to deadline. On the other hand, too few candidates means there's a good chance we're villager/villager. I'm not saying we need to consolidate now, but it should probably happen in an hour or so. I see four candidates now -- hoops and PB at 3, mccollins and jeheinz72 at 2. I think candidates with 1 and 0 are still viable at this point, if people want to argue for them.

KWhit · 05-30-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

ok basicly what i hav argued in mai lolcats is two many cadnidates with just one voat. its two spred out. so i chainged mai voat.

I found it.

His arguments were the exact opposite when he was trying to get me lynched in a previous game.

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mccollins

Seriously, totally random vote:
Vote EagleFan

Haven't voted yet: Hoops (said he will), Passacaglia, RendeR

Votes like that relatively late in the voting cycle worry me.

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

What's the deal with a throwaway? Why is that viewed as negative?

No one knows who to vote for. I didn't want to vote for hoops or PB because:
1) I think hoops gets a raw deal for being an experienced player, and
2) I became pawn buddies with PB last game.

I didn't want to place a 2nd vote on someone and be the leader driving suspicion on some random person. So I wanted to pick someone who had no vote on them and who also could be a wolf hiding out with their vote on one of the leaders.

So I picked Eagle. I'll switch closer to deadline out of self-preservation if need be.

A throwaway is viewed as negative because it looks like you're trying to dodge vote analysis. After each vote, we've got data to look at, and a throwaway vote makes the data point on you useless. It's essentially a "UTR" (that means under the radar, Sea Lion) strategy.

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:15 AM

That's why I view it as negative, at least.

KWhit · 05-30-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Actually, this line of thinking has heinz pinging my wolfdar. It's Day 1. I know that cronin usually says vote for who you think is a wolf without worrying about vote count, but this is Day 1 -- does anyone really think that someone else is a wolf with more than 20-25% certainty (that's a rhetorical question -- I don't want to get in a probabilities pissing match here)? Too many candidates make it hard to tell who the wolves were trying to save close to deadline. On the other hand, too few candidates means there's a good chance we're villager/villager. I'm not saying we need to consolidate now, but it should probably happen in an hour or so. I see four candidates now -- hoops and PB at 3, mccollins and jeheinz72 at 2. I think candidates with 1 and 0 are still viable at this point, if people want to argue for them.

I agree - which was the exact argument I was making against him. I believe (but I'm not positive) that his and my 'discussion' was on a day one also.

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:15 AM

Hoops- Oliegril #185, Heinze #189, Eagle Fan #203
Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209
Heizne- Kwhitt #133, Hoops #250
Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140
Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188
Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193
Lathum-Dangerion #204
Eaglefan-mccolins #218
Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235
__________________

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:17 AM

clap, any tiebreak rules?

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:17 AM

By the by, I will likely swing my vote over to one of the top vote getters before the deadline. Just don't know which right now. Hoops and PB are *least* likely to get it for the time being.

jeheinz72 · 05-30-2008, 10:17 AM

Well screw it, I'm willing to see what shakes out, even if for my survival it's probably not wise. I disagree with you Pass, Cronin has said that line multiple times (even in the last 4-5 games) and his tune changes here? It's a tree that's at least worth shaking.

Unvote hoopsguy
Vote St. Cronin

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I agree - which was the exact argument I was making against him. I believe (but I'm not positive) that his and my 'discussion' was on a day one also.

I thought it was Day 2. But I'm not even sure what game that was, anymore. Probably mine, but I dunno.

jeheinz72 · 05-30-2008, 10:18 AM

So what's the reason I'm getting votes? I voted hoops earlier and I made a bad pun? If that's it, then I'm ok with that

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

By the by, I will likely swing my vote over to one of the top vote getters before the deadline. Just don't know which right now. Hoops and PB are *least* likely to get it for the time being.

I appreciate it CW but I've got to be honest, Chief Rum isn't going to be around (IRC), Cronin isn't one to switch, and I don't think Alan will be around, so I'll likely be one of those leaders.

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

clap, any tiebreak rules?

nope!

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

So what's the reason I'm getting votes? I voted hoops earlier and I made a bad pun? If that's it, then I'm ok with that

Could I get an example of a good pun please?

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:21 AM

Hoops- Oliegril #185, Eagle Fan #203
Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209
Heizne- Kwhitt #133, Hoops #250
Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140
Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188
Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193
Lathum-Dangerion #204
Eaglefan-mccolins #218
Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235
St.Cronin- Heinze #270

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

nope!

Okay, let me put that another way -- what happens if there is a tie?

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Okay, let me put that another way -- what happens if there is a tie?

dunno

(I do know, but im nto gonna tell ya!)

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I appreciate it CW but I've got to be honest, Chief Rum isn't going to be around (IRC), Cronin isn't one to switch, and I don't think Alan will be around, so I'll likely be one of those leaders.

If it turns out that way, you might be screwed. I don't wanna force a tie on day 1.

st.cronin · 05-30-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I found it.

His arguments were the exact opposite when he was trying to get me lynched in a previous game.

I am sorry that you STILL don't understand the argument I was making against you in that game, which was: That it seemed to me you were trying very hard to make sure you voted for a player who didn't get lynched. I am not sure what that has to do with anything I have said or done in this game.

hoopsguy · 05-30-2008, 10:25 AM

JE, I voted for you because I didn't understand your unvote on Jackal and vote onto me. There was no explanation offered and I think you usually do think things through. The same held for Eagles, I didn't have much posting from either of you to work with, so I flipped a coin on who to vote for today.

This is the kind of detailed thinking that takes place on Day 1 votes.

That said, I thought it was a better line than voting for PB for self-survival purposes with hours and hours to go. I have no idea if he's a wolf, but I'm not, and turning this into a two-horse race where I know one horse is a kittah didn't seem like the best available option. So I looked for alternatives.

jeheinz72 · 05-30-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Could I get an example of a good pun please?

Good point!

mccollins · 05-30-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

I found it.

His arguments were the exact opposite when he was trying to get me lynched in a previous game.

I think Cronin has made that same argument in every game I've played with him. Kinda crazy to go against it so obviously.

Unvote Eaglefan
Vote St. Cronin

KWhit · 05-30-2008, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I thought it was Day 2. But I'm not even sure what game that was, anymore. Probably mine, but I dunno.

I can't remember either, but I know that it was very early and there was no real compelling reasons for voting for anyone over anyone else.

hoopsguy · 05-30-2008, 10:27 AM

I'm currently on the phone with someone, so I'm probably not going to be in the thread too much leading up to the deadline. I'll do my best to monitor events with those constraints and help us make a better decision than voting me off the island.

jeheinz72 · 05-30-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

JE, I voted for you because I didn't understand your unvote on Jackal and vote onto me. There was no explanation offered and I think you usually do think things through. The same held for Eagles, I didn't have much posting from either of you to work with, so I flipped a coin on who to vote for today.

This is the kind of detailed thinking that takes place on Day 1 votes.

That said, I thought it was a better line than voting for PB for self-survival purposes with hours and hours to go. I have no idea if he's a wolf, but I'm not, and turning this into a two-horse race where I know one horse is a kittah didn't seem like the best available option. So I looked for alternatives.

Yeah, I didn't explain just b/c I was in a rush. Often times when I split at 3 (Pacific) I come back in the AM to a horrible looking vote. I sensed people were going to consolidate so I picked a side. I thought that was kinda obvious, but my bad for not explaining that better.

st.cronin · 05-30-2008, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

I think Cronin has made that same argument in every game I've played with him.

What argument?

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:29 AM

mccollins · 05-30-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

What argument?

To vote for who you truly think is a wolf no matter what the vote count is.

KWhit · 05-30-2008, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I am sorry that you STILL don't understand the argument I was making against you in that game, which was: That it seemed to me you were trying very hard to make sure you voted for a player who didn't get lynched. I am not sure what that has to do with anything I have said or done in this game.

Yeah, I still don't get it because the argument came up when I put my vote on one of the two vote getters - actually putting my vote on someone who was MORE LIKELY to be lynched.

Unvote Jeheinz72
Vote st.cronin

Coffee Warlord · 05-30-2008, 10:34 AM

As of #290, my count:

Hoops: 2
PB: 3
Heinze: 1
KWhit: 1
Olie: 1
CW: 1
Lathum: 1
Mcollins: 2
Cronin: 3

st.cronin · 05-30-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mccollins

To vote for who you truly think is a wolf no matter what the vote count is.

Hello, that's exactly what I am doing.

st.cronin · 05-30-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah, I still don't get it because the argument came up when I put my vote on one of the two vote getters - actually putting my vote on someone who was MORE LIKELY to be lynched.

I suggest you reread that game. I initially phrased my objections to you in a convoluted way, but I explained later in a more clear way. Anyway, I still don't understand what that has to do with this game.

claphamsa · 05-30-2008, 10:38 AM

Hoops- Oliegril #185, Eagle Fan #203
Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209
Heizne- Hoops #250
Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140
Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188
Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193
Lathum-Dangerion #204
Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235
St.Cronin- Heinze #270,mccolins #283, Kwhitt #288

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Hello, that's exactly what I am doing.

Then I've got to ask. What happened between post 157 (your vote for Lathum) and 168 (when I voted for you, my only post in that span and that included my every game voting logic) and finally 174 (when you unvoted Lathum and voted me) that caused you to go from Lathum being a wolf to me being a wolf?

st.cronin · 05-30-2008, 10:49 AM

Nothing more than you voting for me, PB. I don't know that you're a wolf, but at that time you were the only player that I knew was voting for a villager.

If I'm to be the day 1 lynch, so be it. Its been a long time since that happened.

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Nothing more than you voting for me, PB. I don't know that you're a wolf, but at that time you were the only player that I knew was voting for a villager.

If I'm to be the day 1 lynch, so be it. Its been a long time since that happened.

That's fine, I appreciate at least the information. I'm kind of in the same boat with you but I'm not 100% ready to string you up for it yet either.

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

but I'm not 100% ready to string you up for it yet either.

Dola (and quoting myself)- Although give me half an hour and that may change quickly for self-defense. I just re-read when deadline was!

Passacaglia · 05-30-2008, 10:58 AM

VOTE HOOPSGUY

I don't want to make the voting decisions easy for the guys with their necks on the line.

PurdueBrad · 05-30-2008, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I don't want to make the voting decisions easy for the guys with their necks on the line.

If I weren't one of them, I would really enjoy that idea!

05-30-2008, 10:09 AM	#259
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	FYI, I was right, I am being forced to WORK (the humanity) so anyone wants to keep updates of votes, is appreciated! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-30-2008, 10:09 AM	#260
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	noon EST __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!! Last edited by claphamsa : 05-30-2008 at 10:09 AM.

05-30-2008, 10:15 AM	#267
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Hoops- Oliegril #185, Heinze #189, Eagle Fan #203 Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209 Heizne- Kwhitt #133, Hoops #250 Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140 Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188 Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193 Lathum-Dangerion #204 Eaglefan-mccolins #218 Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235 __________________ __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!! Last edited by claphamsa : 05-30-2008 at 10:16 AM.

05-30-2008, 10:21 AM	#276
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Hoops- Oliegril #185, Eagle Fan #203 Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209 Heizne- Kwhitt #133, Hoops #250 Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140 Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188 Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193 Lathum-Dangerion #204 Eaglefan-mccolins #218 Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235 St.Cronin- Heinze #270 __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-30-2008, 10:38 AM	#294
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	Hoops- Oliegril #185, Eagle Fan #203 Perdue Brad- St. Cronin # 174, chief Rum #201, alan T #209 Heizne- Hoops #250 Kwhitt- the Jackyl #140 Olie girl- Coffee warlord #188 Coffee Warlord- Seolian #193 Lathum-Dangerion #204 Mcolloins- PB #232 Lathum #235 St.Cronin- Heinze #270,mccolins #283, Kwhitt #288 __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

05-30-2008, 09:46 AM	#251
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Right now then, on me are: St. Cronin, Chief Rum, Alan T. St. Cronin I think is on me because he feels I spread things out too much with my first vote, which also happened to be on him. Chief Rum because I drafted poorly Alan T. because, well, I don't know, but I probably don't want to vote for a guy on his birthday. I have three very good veteran players on which would make it hard to turn things around on any of them, at least until there is a more defined voting or track record.

05-30-2008, 09:51 AM	#252
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Of those three, I think Chief's logic was the most suspect (yes, I get that it is Day 1), followed by Cronin, and Alan (who I pretty much agree with in his viewing the voting dynamic). But I'm more inclined to look to my list, because I know I'm not a wolf while I suspect you are not. I also think the vote/unvote stuff with Heinz + Eagle is considerably more suspect than Cronin. I'm also finding it interesting how accomodating you are capable of being with your neck on the line alongside mine Day 1. Usually I find you to be the hardest guy in the room to persuade that my thoughts make sense

05-30-2008, 09:53 AM	#253
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Hoops (et al) I voted for you because I thought we were headed for a 2-person showdown and people (IIRC Cronin and Lathum) were pushing that we had too many candidates and it was time to consolidate. Given that I'm a kitteh and am more or less voting randomly, I picked between you and PB. Why you over PB? Just gut really. And I wanted to see where it led us. FTR, it led me to think you're sounding a lot like you did in the Chess game on Day One, when you were a wolf. But that could just be my wishful thinking. I think given the events I'd be interested in looking at Lathum and Cronin. It's a pretty simple wolf battle plan to be opportunistic and pull the "ok no more new candidates" ploy if the leading vote getters and/or most of the vote getters overall weren't wolves. Particularly peculiar is Cronin who has always championed the "Vote for who you think is a wolf, vote-count be damned" line of thinking but now says we are too spread out.

05-30-2008, 09:55 AM	#254
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I'll be honest, I have no idea how to even try to get out of a day 1 lynch. I'm a terrible day 1 player, no matter which side I'm on. I argue and base my decisions on what I've seen but on day 1 MOST votes are random, with the wolves at a big advantage of being able to swing things. I feel like all I can say is "I'm good" which just sounds wolfy. How do you argue against "random vote" or "he picked Shie Lebouf"? Accomodating=lost/desparate at this point! Hell Hoops, if I'm willing to listen to whatever you say, I am in trouble.

05-30-2008, 10:07 AM	#257
mccollins College Prospect Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Nicholasville, KY	What's the deal with a throwaway? Why is that viewed as negative? No one knows who to vote for. I didn't want to vote for hoops or PB because: 1) I think hoops gets a raw deal for being an experienced player, and 2) I became pawn buddies with PB last game. I didn't want to place a 2nd vote on someone and be the leader driving suspicion on some random person. So I wanted to pick someone who had no vote on them and who also could be a wolf hiding out with their vote on one of the leaders. So I picked Eagle. I'll switch closer to deadline out of self-preservation if need be.

05-30-2008, 10:08 AM	#258
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	When exactly is the deadline again?

05-30-2008, 10:12 AM	#261
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Actually, this line of thinking has heinz pinging my wolfdar. It's Day 1. I know that cronin usually says vote for who you think is a wolf without worrying about vote count, but this is Day 1 -- does anyone really think that someone else is a wolf with more than 20-25% certainty (that's a rhetorical question -- I don't want to get in a probabilities pissing match here)? Too many candidates make it hard to tell who the wolves were trying to save close to deadline. On the other hand, too few candidates means there's a good chance we're villager/villager. I'm not saying we need to consolidate now, but it should probably happen in an hour or so. I see four candidates now -- hoops and PB at 3, mccollins and jeheinz72 at 2. I think candidates with 1 and 0 are still viable at this point, if people want to argue for them.

05-30-2008, 10:15 AM	#265
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	That's why I view it as negative, at least.

05-30-2008, 10:17 AM	#268
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	clap, any tiebreak rules?

05-30-2008, 10:17 AM	#269
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	By the by, I will likely swing my vote over to one of the top vote getters before the deadline. Just don't know which right now. Hoops and PB are least likely to get it for the time being.

05-30-2008, 10:17 AM	#270
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	Well screw it, I'm willing to see what shakes out, even if for my survival it's probably not wise. I disagree with you Pass, Cronin has said that line multiple times (even in the last 4-5 games) and his tune changes here? It's a tree that's at least worth shaking. Unvote hoopsguy Vote St. Cronin

05-30-2008, 10:18 AM	#272
jeheinz72 Pro Rookie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fresno, CA	So what's the reason I'm getting votes? I voted hoops earlier and I made a bad pun? If that's it, then I'm ok with that

05-30-2008, 10:25 AM	#281
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	JE, I voted for you because I didn't understand your unvote on Jackal and vote onto me. There was no explanation offered and I think you usually do think things through. The same held for Eagles, I didn't have much posting from either of you to work with, so I flipped a coin on who to vote for today. This is the kind of detailed thinking that takes place on Day 1 votes. That said, I thought it was a better line than voting for PB for self-survival purposes with hours and hours to go. I have no idea if he's a wolf, but I'm not, and turning this into a two-horse race where I know one horse is a kittah didn't seem like the best available option. So I looked for alternatives.

05-30-2008, 10:27 AM	#285
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm currently on the phone with someone, so I'm probably not going to be in the thread too much leading up to the deadline. I'll do my best to monitor events with those constraints and help us make a better decision than voting me off the island.

05-30-2008, 10:29 AM	#288
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs

05-30-2008, 10:34 AM	#291
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	As of #290, my count: Hoops: 2 PB: 3 Heinze: 1 KWhit: 1 Olie: 1 CW: 1 Lathum: 1 Mcollins: 2 Cronin: 3

05-30-2008, 10:49 AM	#296
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Nothing more than you voting for me, PB. I don't know that you're a wolf, but at that time you were the only player that I knew was voting for a villager. If I'm to be the day 1 lynch, so be it. Its been a long time since that happened. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

05-30-2008, 10:58 AM	#299
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	VOTE HOOPSGUY I don't want to make the voting decisions easy for the guys with their necks on the line.

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