Alright Boys, Here we go! The Football Manager 2012 thread (Game OUT!) - Page 6

bulletsponge · 10-18-2011, 03:05 PM

preloaded also

Miller Time · 10-18-2011, 04:37 PM

preloading now also. Very excited!

Icy · 10-18-2011, 04:46 PM

Woooooottttt!

Sweed · 10-18-2011, 05:37 PM

Preloading now. Gonna be a good weekend.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-18-2011, 06:46 PM

Getting my preload on.

PraetorianX · 10-18-2011, 08:06 PM

Preloading.

This does not make waiting easier, I want it NOW.

I could perhaps make do with only the editor to tweak some things...

DaddyTorgo · 10-18-2011, 08:38 PM

77% preloaded.

It is 7PM on Thursday yet??? JEEZ I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

Critch · 10-18-2011, 08:46 PM

I bet it opens up early for pre-orderers. I'm going to check every 10 minutes just in case.

SirFozzie · 10-18-2011, 08:46 PM

Yeah, I'm going to redo my American Premier League edit file on FM12, and since FM12 fixes the bug with regional top level leagues that meant it was a no-go for FM11, I'm going to do my English Regional League Mod

DaddyTorgo · 10-18-2011, 08:47 PM

I hope my success with Juve was due to my tactic...I've already got it saved and ready to lad into the new game...now to list the couple of transfers that I brought in (essentially just Razvan Rat I think).

bulletsponge · 10-18-2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PraetorianX

Preloading.

This does not make waiting easier, I want it NOW.

I could perhaps make do with only the editor to tweak some things...

theres a editor that comes with the preload? how do i find it?

SirFozzie · 10-18-2011, 09:32 PM

The editor is part of the game itself. Sadly, it does not unlock till the game unlocks.

MrBug708 · 10-18-2011, 09:45 PM

Man, I really should get this game, but dont think I can run it on my ocmputer. Maybe time for a new computer?

PraetorianX · 10-19-2011, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

theres a editor that comes with the preload? how do i find it?

It doesn't come with the preload. I was just saying that I wish it did, as that would help keep me occupied until Thursday evening.

markprior22 · 10-19-2011, 09:23 AM

Would someone mind giving me a quick "top down" view of how international soccer works? Take a team like Barcelona. How does that teams league play work in conjunction with international play? Are they completely separate events with no connection to each other? How do the lower leagues function? Are they similar to minor league baseball? I am interested in getting into FM mgr further this year (tried '10) and would just like a better macro view of the sport. Thanks to anyone who replies.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-19-2011, 09:36 AM

1. Not similar at all to minor league baseball. In baseball, the lower teams can't get promoted to the next level. They're feeder teams. In soccer, the top teams in the lower divisions get promoted to the next level.

2. International play is separate. International teams call up player to play for the national teams, which means your league team may occasionally be without a key player for a game or two. But there's no correlation between the two.

3. There are also tournaments that match up the top teams both within national leagues and between the top teams in multiple nations. Kind of like a champions tournament to find the best of the best.

Marc Vaughan · 10-19-2011, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markprior22

Would someone mind giving me a quick "top down" view of how international soccer works? Take a team like Barcelona. How does that teams league play work in conjunction with international play? Are they completely separate events with no connection to each other? How do the lower leagues function? Are they similar to minor league baseball? I am interested in getting into FM mgr further this year (tried '10) and would just like a better macro view of the sport. Thanks to anyone who replies.

Ok I'll try and explain.

Each player tends to have two potential affiliations - one will be their 'day job' which is a club, the other will be a nation which is the international team they play for.

The International teams are mainly for 'prestige' and players have no contracts for these teams, HOWEVER playing for them can seriously increase a players reputation and appeal to clubs (as doing well on the international stage is proof that you can play against the very best).

International teams compete in competitions on a 4 year cycle for each competition - so there is a World Cup every 4 years and a 'local' continent based International competition every 4 years (European Championship in Europe) - this means a 'large' international event every two years with the 'off' years taken with qualifiers for the larger tournament. Please note a player can only play for the nation he was born in or which he has a relationship with (nationalised citizen, parental link etc.) - once a player is active at a senior level for a nation he can NOT change to another national side.

The club system is structured differently for each country and can differ HUGELY according to the country. However in general clubs will compete in both league and cup competitions within their country (known as 'domestic' competitions) and also potentially in 'Continental' competitions which will contain the better/more successful clubs within their continent.

An example of a continental competition is the 'Champions League' in Europe.

Some national leagues contain promotion and relegation between levels (most European leagues do) however some do not (australian A-League for instance) either because there is a lack of teams or because they have a more 'American' setup.

With regards to 'feeder teams' - some leagues allow 'reserve' teams to compete in the same league structure as the main team (Spain for instance); some do not (English reserve teams have their own league structure and cannot play in normal domestic competitions) .....

Don't worry if it sounds confusing, once you've played a few seasons it'll all start making sense to you - concentrate on a single nations leagues initally and become familiar with them, then branch off and look elsewhere.

I'd suggest taking a fairly 'sane' setup initially (one of the big European ones or one you know) - then you can look at some of the South American ones where the league standings are calculated over a period of multiple seasons and all sorts of oddities ...

SirFozzie · 10-19-2011, 11:55 AM

Confirmation from Miles:

FM12 is released on Friday. It's available to play from 00.01 on Friday morning, but could take half an hour for the servers to propogate

So we are *checks clock* 30 hours away and counting. Now the real question is...

Will DT beat me to creating the Here We Go Boyz thread as revenge for me stealing his prerelease thunder?

whomario · 10-19-2011, 12:11 PM

no steam purchase (or demo) in Germany as usual, so it´s uk amazon again... Will propably order at the end of octobre so that it´ll be here waiting for me when i come back from a holiday planned for the first week of november.

SirFozzie · 10-19-2011, 12:14 PM

mario: Not 100% sure, but you could ask someone from here to purchase it for you and gift it to you on steam, and you'd send them a payment via PayPal or something similar. Icy and I did it a couple years ago, when the US release was delayed past the EU release by 2-3 weeks.

DaddyTorgo · 10-19-2011, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Confirmation from Miles:

FM12 is released on Friday. It's available to play from 00.01 on Friday morning, but could take half an hour for the servers to propogate

So we are *checks clock* 30 hours away and counting. Now the real question is...

Will DT beat me to creating the Here We Go Boyz thread as revenge for me stealing his prerelease thunder?

My thread was actually titled "Here we Go Boyz" so that we could use it as a one-stop repository from pre-release all the way through, but you spoiled that.

Let's establish criteria - do we have to have the game fully DLed in order to start the thread?

Icy · 10-19-2011, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario

no steam purchase (or demo) in Germany as usual, so it´s uk amazon again... Will propably order at the end of octobre so that it´ll be here waiting for me when i come back from a holiday planned for the first week of november.

As sirfozzie said, i can buy it for you as gift and you will get it in your steam account. I did past year for a few FOFC USA members and some have done for me in the past for Steam games released in USA at cheaper price than in Europe.

Let me know if you want it, my steam id is: IcySpanish, you can send me a message using the steam chat system.

SirFozzie · 10-19-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

My thread was actually titled "Here we Go Boyz" so that we could use it as a one-stop repository from pre-release all the way through, but you spoiled that.

Let's establish criteria - do we have to have the game fully DLed in order to start the thread?

criteria? WEE DON'T NEED NO STEENKIN CRITERIA!

DaddyTorgo · 10-19-2011, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario

no steam purchase (or demo) in Germany as usual, so it´s uk amazon again... Will propably order at the end of octobre so that it´ll be here waiting for me when i come back from a holiday planned for the first week of november.

As Icy said man...feel free to reach out to me too. In fact, I'm sure most of us here on the board would be willing to help out in a similar way. Benefits of belonging to a community!

markprior22 · 10-19-2011, 04:07 PM

Thanks MBBF and Marc. I'll definitely give it a shot.

SackAttack · 10-19-2011, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Confirmation from Miles:

FM12 is released on Friday. It's available to play from 00.01 on Friday morning, but could take half an hour for the servers to propogate

So we are *checks clock* 30 hours away and counting. Now the real question is...

Will DT beat me to creating the Here We Go Boyz thread as revenge for me stealing his prerelease thunder?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

My thread was actually titled "Here we Go Boyz" so that we could use it as a one-stop repository from pre-release all the way through, but you spoiled that.

Let's establish criteria - do we have to have the game fully DLed in order to start the thread?

If I were (more of) an asshole, I'd start the thread to steal the thunder from BOTH of you, even though it'll be some time before I can get the game.

SirFozzie · 10-19-2011, 06:40 PM

Did I read you right, Sack? Are you that big of an...

SackAttack · 10-19-2011, 06:49 PM

Do you see a thread posted by yours truly? That should answer your question.

TroyF · 10-19-2011, 09:48 PM

drums fingers. Sighs. Drums fingers. Sighs.

I want to play this game NOW.

DaddyTorgo · 10-19-2011, 09:57 PM

20 hours...

JetsIn06 · 10-20-2011, 12:38 AM

I have no will power.

Pre-ordering now.

cody8200 · 10-20-2011, 08:04 AM

After the demo, I am still on the fence. I have bought the game the last 2 out of 3 years. I usually have quite a bit of fun with it and spend 100+ hours playing. Once the game is released, if someone who is interested in the MLS can give a summary of how things look (signings, youth teams, etc), that would be great,

MacroGuru · 10-20-2011, 08:15 AM

I will probably end up getting this, but I just barely sat down with my FM11 I bought months ago and started playing there....so I don't know how amped I am to upgrade right out of the gates.

DaddyTorgo · 10-20-2011, 08:20 AM

9hrs 40mins

PraetorianX · 10-20-2011, 08:39 AM

Whew. I was having some internet difficulties this morning...looks like it's going fine now though.

Thank god. Jail time for the mass murder of Windstream employees likely would not have gotten me playing any sooner.

God I wish there was a decent alternative for internet where I live.

MrBug708 · 10-20-2011, 10:04 AM

Just rename this thread

Shepp · 10-20-2011, 10:12 AM

I was really thinking of sitting out this years version but I've looked at some of the new features and I think SI has done enough to suck me in for another year. The deciding factor was where the game rates your players depth by position. I have been wanting to see this for years. I also think its kind of nice that if you look at the scout report on a prospect it will also show you where he rates among the other players that you already have.

PraetorianX · 10-20-2011, 10:20 AM

Yeah, I really like those features too.

But what did it for me was the add/remove leagues at any time. I had intended to keep going with '11 as I had a good long game going was more than happy with it. The only thing that could have changed my mind was that one feature, and of course they just had to add it this year.

That said, unless they have something really really terrific next year, I'll likely sit that one out and get FM14.

DaddyTorgo · 10-20-2011, 10:22 AM

7hrs 36mins

(yes I have an alarm set on my phone for 6:50PM to ensure that I'm online and ready to go by 7PM)

FM release day is better than Christmas.

Coffee Warlord · 10-20-2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

FM first patch day is better than Christmas.

Fixed.

DaddyTorgo · 10-20-2011, 10:33 AM

Well sure. I suppose that's true. But I'll use the time between now and first-patch to monkey around...explore the new features of the game and get really comfortable with it, so that when I'm ready to start my longterm dynasty I'm ready to go.

I usually just use my demo game continued to do that. Looking forward to it this year, since I'm being hugely successful in the league so far.

Shepp · 10-20-2011, 10:39 AM

Hasn't there been a "Day 1" patch for the last couple of years? I wouldn't be suprised if there is an update by the weekend.

Coffee Warlord · 10-20-2011, 11:13 AM

It's that first big patch a ways down the line that really does it for me. It's just the nature of the beast that a ton of stuff gets found once the game is out in the wild, and I inevitably wind up restarting my game once said patch comes out.

Icy · 10-20-2011, 11:41 AM

Matt from SEGA has said that the game exe has been patched already and submitted to steam, so at midnight we will be playing the patched game already and there won't be a day 1 patch.

Here is the related info from SI forums:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt from SEGA

Patch Information:
I'm informed that the .exe that you download IS different to the demo code - i.e. the clever folk at SI have been working on a few tweaks and updates. At this point, I'm uncertain as to what they are. They always post changelogs to their patches and I'm sure when Miles gets off a plane, train or whatever automobile he is in doing his PR thing, he'll be on here with an update. What I guess that means is that there won't be a "Day One Patch" that you need to wait for - we've provided it prior to launch. What I can't speak for is the need for any further patches and if, or when, they may be made available - again, we need SI to cover that. I also stipulate "guess" - I am not the expert and there may be more info to come from SI. Please don't ask any more, as I don't know about the content - sorry - Miles is already going to tell me off for telling you this, but I'm trying to prevent a long list of posts all asking the same questions. If I don't answer you tomorrow, you'll know why...

Ryan S · 10-20-2011, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shepp

Hasn't there been a "Day 1" patch for the last couple of years? I wouldn't be suprised if there is an update by the weekend.

If you are downloading the game from Steam you would have the day 1 patch installed already. You would only need to download it if you had the disk copy with the month old gold build.

MrBug708 · 10-20-2011, 12:56 PM

Ok...I caved. Just to have it now. Probably not good to buy and play while working on an action research project and applying for jobs

SirFozzie · 10-20-2011, 01:03 PM

(Whistles innocently while hoping DT doesn't go ranty ravey

)

CleBrownsfan · 10-20-2011, 01:06 PM

I really wish I could get into FM... all you guys excited makes me want to be excited too

whomario · 10-20-2011, 01:31 PM

I thought last years version was very, very good on release. If i recall correctly i really didn´t actually waited for a patch and (again if i recall correctly)

Preloading now as well, cheers Icy

Thanks DT for your offer as well

fortheglory · 10-20-2011, 01:36 PM

Where can I find logos for all of the teams throughout the world in one or two easy downloads?

10-18-2011, 04:46 PM	#253
Icy Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toledo - Spain	Woooooottttt! __________________

10-18-2011, 08:46 PM	#259
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Yeah, I'm going to redo my American Premier League edit file on FM12, and since FM12 fixes the bug with regional top level leagues that meant it was a no-go for FM11, I'm going to do my English Regional League Mod __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-18-2011, 09:32 PM	#262
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The editor is part of the game itself. Sadly, it does not unlock till the game unlocks. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-19-2011, 11:55 AM	#268
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Confirmation from Miles: FM12 is released on Friday. It's available to play from 00.01 on Friday morning, but could take half an hour for the servers to propogate So we are checks clock 30 hours away and counting. Now the real question is... Will DT beat me to creating the Here We Go Boyz thread as revenge for me stealing his prerelease thunder? __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-19-2011, 12:14 PM	#270
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	mario: Not 100% sure, but you could ask someone from here to purchase it for you and gift it to you on steam, and you'd send them a payment via PayPal or something similar. Icy and I did it a couple years ago, when the US release was delayed past the EU release by 2-3 weeks. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-18-2011, 03:05 PM	#251
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	preloaded also

10-18-2011, 04:37 PM	#252
Miller Time H.S. Freshman Team Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Ottawa,Ontario	preloading now also. Very excited!

10-18-2011, 05:37 PM	#254
Sweed College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2003	Preloading now. Gonna be a good weekend.

10-18-2011, 06:46 PM	#255
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Getting my preload on.

10-18-2011, 08:06 PM	#256
PraetorianX High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003	Preloading. This does not make waiting easier, I want it NOW. I could perhaps make do with only the editor to tweak some things...

10-18-2011, 08:38 PM	#257
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	77% preloaded. It is 7PM on Thursday yet??? JEEZ I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!

10-18-2011, 08:46 PM	#258
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	I bet it opens up early for pre-orderers. I'm going to check every 10 minutes just in case.

10-18-2011, 08:47 PM	#260
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I hope my success with Juve was due to my tactic...I've already got it saved and ready to lad into the new game...now to list the couple of transfers that I brought in (essentially just Razvan Rat I think).

10-18-2011, 09:45 PM	#263
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Man, I really should get this game, but dont think I can run it on my ocmputer. Maybe time for a new computer?

10-19-2011, 09:23 AM	#265
markprior22 High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, il	Would someone mind giving me a quick "top down" view of how international soccer works? Take a team like Barcelona. How does that teams league play work in conjunction with international play? Are they completely separate events with no connection to each other? How do the lower leagues function? Are they similar to minor league baseball? I am interested in getting into FM mgr further this year (tried '10) and would just like a better macro view of the sport. Thanks to anyone who replies.

10-19-2011, 09:36 AM	#266
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	1. Not similar at all to minor league baseball. In baseball, the lower teams can't get promoted to the next level. They're feeder teams. In soccer, the top teams in the lower divisions get promoted to the next level. 2. International play is separate. International teams call up player to play for the national teams, which means your league team may occasionally be without a key player for a game or two. But there's no correlation between the two. 3. There are also tournaments that match up the top teams both within national leagues and between the top teams in multiple nations. Kind of like a champions tournament to find the best of the best.

10-19-2011, 12:11 PM	#269
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	no steam purchase (or demo) in Germany as usual, so it´s uk amazon again... Will propably order at the end of octobre so that it´ll be here waiting for me when i come back from a holiday planned for the first week of november.

10-19-2011, 04:07 PM	#275
markprior22 High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: springfield, il	Thanks MBBF and Marc. I'll definitely give it a shot.

10-19-2011, 06:40 PM	#277
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Did I read you right, Sack? Are you that big of an... __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

10-19-2011, 06:49 PM	#278
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	Do you see a thread posted by yours truly? That should answer your question.

10-19-2011, 09:48 PM	#279
TroyF Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	drums fingers. Sighs. Drums fingers. Sighs. I want to play this game NOW.

10-19-2011, 09:57 PM	#280
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	20 hours...

10-20-2011, 12:38 AM	#281
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	I have no will power. Pre-ordering now.

10-20-2011, 08:04 AM	#282
cody8200 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2000	After the demo, I am still on the fence. I have bought the game the last 2 out of 3 years. I usually have quite a bit of fun with it and spend 100+ hours playing. Once the game is released, if someone who is interested in the MLS can give a summary of how things look (signings, youth teams, etc), that would be great,

10-20-2011, 08:15 AM	#283
MacroGuru Coordinator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Utah	I will probably end up getting this, but I just barely sat down with my FM11 I bought months ago and started playing there....so I don't know how amped I am to upgrade right out of the gates. __________________ "forgetting what is in the past, I strive for the future"

10-20-2011, 08:20 AM	#284
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	9hrs 40mins

10-20-2011, 08:39 AM	#285
PraetorianX High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003	Whew. I was having some internet difficulties this morning...looks like it's going fine now though. Thank god. Jail time for the mass murder of Windstream employees likely would not have gotten me playing any sooner. God I wish there was a decent alternative for internet where I live.

10-20-2011, 10:04 AM	#286
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Just rename this thread

10-20-2011, 10:12 AM	#287
Shepp High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA	I was really thinking of sitting out this years version but I've looked at some of the new features and I think SI has done enough to suck me in for another year. The deciding factor was where the game rates your players depth by position. I have been wanting to see this for years. I also think its kind of nice that if you look at the scout report on a prospect it will also show you where he rates among the other players that you already have.

10-20-2011, 10:20 AM	#288
PraetorianX High School JV Join Date: Mar 2003	Yeah, I really like those features too. But what did it for me was the add/remove leagues at any time. I had intended to keep going with '11 as I had a good long game going was more than happy with it. The only thing that could have changed my mind was that one feature, and of course they just had to add it this year. That said, unless they have something really really terrific next year, I'll likely sit that one out and get FM14.

10-20-2011, 10:22 AM	#289
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	7hrs 36mins (yes I have an alarm set on my phone for 6:50PM to ensure that I'm online and ready to go by 7PM) FM release day is better than Christmas. Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 10-20-2011 at 10:24 AM.

10-20-2011, 10:33 AM	#291
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Well sure. I suppose that's true. But I'll use the time between now and first-patch to monkey around...explore the new features of the game and get really comfortable with it, so that when I'm ready to start my longterm dynasty I'm ready to go. I usually just use my demo game continued to do that. Looking forward to it this year, since I'm being hugely successful in the league so far.

10-20-2011, 10:39 AM	#292
Shepp High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Atlanta, GA	Hasn't there been a "Day 1" patch for the last couple of years? I wouldn't be suprised if there is an update by the weekend. Last edited by Shepp : 10-20-2011 at 10:40 AM.

10-20-2011, 11:13 AM	#293
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	It's that first big patch a ways down the line that really does it for me. It's just the nature of the beast that a ton of stuff gets found once the game is out in the wild, and I inevitably wind up restarting my game once said patch comes out. Last edited by Coffee Warlord : 10-20-2011 at 11:14 AM.

10-20-2011, 12:56 PM	#296
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Ok...I caved. Just to have it now. Probably not good to buy and play while working on an action research project and applying for jobs