Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over)

[Fouts]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Correcting my voting syntax. Bullet is casting a vote right now for a player that I trust in this game.

UNVOTE JAIL BLADE6119
VOTE JAIL BULLETSPONGE

How strange.

[Mr. Wednesday]

You're leaving off hoops's vote for bulletsponge.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Here is what I show for the vote count, as of Post #245:

Blade 3 -- Anxiety (139), MrW (179), WVU (193)
Hoops 2 -- Rum (135), Blade (176)
LSG 1 -- Cronin (188)
Cronin 1 -- Bullet (209)
Bullet 1 -- Hoops (240)
Ntdeacon 1 -- DC (238)

I did not know i was down 4-2 until you moved your vote. Well i guess i should thank you? lol

Im leaning towards one of the idles(qwik, king, lonestar). I know bek is working until 9 tonight(pacific), so since he didnt post this morning he wont be posting at all today id imagine. He will be on tonight, but we were both up late last night playing NCAA football so id imagine he slept right up until he had to leave. I had classes, so i couldnt sleep in...anyone else notice how much more you hate school when you are trying to learn out of one bloodshot eye?

Anyways, im leaning towards one of the no-shows, but am still considering what i need to do to surive

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'll just say that there are probably people in my faction who have posted, but it's impossible for me to say for sure about anybody. There are a couple of reasons why that's possible - either the "code" was too common, and has been used by more people than it's likely are in my faction, or else the "code" was too confusing, and has been mangled by people, or else there was no "code" and our fearless leader gave some other guidance which I am unable to make (public) use of.

So this happened to your faction on Day 1 in the other game? The code wasn't well put together, and as a result a wolf hid in your faction? Or you killed someone in your faction, thinking he was bad (and not knowing he was in your faction)?

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Mr. Wednesday

You're leaving off hoops's vote for bulletsponge.

Fixed now, thanks.

Going away for a bit, but I'll be around a bunch before lynch.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So this happened to your faction on Day 1 in the other game? The code wasn't well put together, and as a result a wolf hid in your faction? Or you killed someone in your faction, thinking he was bad (and not knowing he was in your faction)?

Well, I don't remember anything bad happening, but we did waste a day in confuzzlement.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So this happened to your faction on Day 1 in the other game? The code wasn't well put together, and as a result a wolf hid in your faction? Or you killed someone in your faction, thinking he was bad (and not knowing he was in your faction)?

The version he is referring to is the one run on this board at this link:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=44878

I skimmed it, and noticed his team won, but what i also noticed is there was a lot of confusion with the codes. Some nobles made them too tricky and the member of their factions misunderstood them. Therefore certain codes didnt work as expected. I think his faction's was one of those codes. Im not sure though, id prefer if he would clarify

[hoopsguy]

Fouts, exactly right. That is the trend of which I have the most confidence is a "noble tell". There are three other ones out there - not including the ellipsis - that I have less confidence than "strange".

Blade, I would hope that moving my vote, while putting myself at greater risk, would mean something to you and the other people considering voting for me.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Fouts, exactly right. That is the trend of which I have the most confidence is a "noble tell". There are three other ones out there - not including the ellipsis - that I have less confidence than "strange".

Blade, I would hope that moving my vote, while putting myself at greater risk, would mean something to you and the other people considering voting for me.

I have stated from the get go, back when you were calling me a bad guy, that i thought you were good. The problem lies in i am still in the lead, and i must make sure i am on the best canidate to remove myself from the fast track to jail. So far, no one has claimed that title from you

[Blade6119]

Dola, but ill put myself at further risk just as you claim to have done(despite me still being in the lead)

UNVOTE JAIL HOOPSGUY

[hoopsguy]

Just got to the point where Dubb and I were both night-killed on Night 1 of the other "Crown a King" game. We were both doing the math with the scores during the Night phase - didn't count on them getting us both at the same time. Bah.

If I recall correctly, Barkeep has updated the rules to make it more challenging to "do the math" in 1-2 nights to win the game.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Just got to the point where Dubb and I were both night-killed on Night 1 of the other "Crown a King" game. We were both doing the math with the scores during the Night phase - didn't count on them getting us both at the same time. Bah.

If I recall correctly, Barkeep has updated the rules to make it more challenging to "do the math" in 1-2 nights to win the game.

Yes, he improved them before the BGG running of this game, and has done so again for this version. I like the rules changes, as i think each game's rule set has been an improvement over the last.

[bulletsponge]

has quickshot or bek posted yet?

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

has quickshot or bek posted yet?

No, and i have already explained bek's sitaution. I believe 5-6 people have still not posted, though qwikshot was around today. There are around 8-9 non-voters, but a few of those have been around(brian, fouts).

No hoops, those dashes arent more clues im trying to crack

[bulletsponge]

brian and fouts have posted several times

[hoopsguy]

Also, another point on the Bulletsponge vote - most of the people who have posted have fit somehow into one of my "noble tell" theories. Bullet, up to this point, has not been classified except for voting against someone that I list in my strongest "tell" group.

The only mitigating factor there is that Cronin was fairly late to the party posting and others (see Fouts) had picked up on the "strange" tell as well so Cronin could be making a move there, coupled with a throwaway vote on Lonestargirl. But I find this less likely than Bullet as an assassin.

[hoopsguy]

The only people who have not posted, up to this point, are Bek and Lonestargirl. Qwikshot had a "checking in" post but nothing else.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

The only people who have not posted, up to this point, are Bek and Lonestargirl. Qwikshot had a "checking in" post but nothing else.

Kingfc? I must have missed his post

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

brian and fouts have posted several times

Yes, i said they have. I said they have not voted

[st.cronin]

unvote Jail LonestarGirl
vote Jail Bulletsponge

I'm going along with hoops ... for now! Strange, isn't it.

[hoopsguy]

Blade, you are correct on King. Was going from memory as I was packing up for the day. Here is a list of players and their first post of Day #1.

1. ntndeacon - #115
2. Anxiety - #88
3. Qwikshot - #226
4. Lonestargirl -
5. Bulletsponge - #180
6. Bek -
7. Hoopsguy - #85
8. Greyroofoo - #185
9. St. Cronin - #188
10. RealDeal - #95
11. Blade6119 - #98
12. Fouts - #84
13. Kingfc22 -
14. Lathum - #86
15. Chief Run - #135
16. Dodgerchick - #93
17. WVUFan - #145
18. Mr. Wednesday - #89

[Blade6119]

VOTE JAIL BULLETSPONGE

[Fouts]

Pick a side, pick a side. NO FLOATERS!!

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by st.cronin;1257409[B

][/b] ... for now! Strange, isn't it.

This is the most suspect post of all time

[Fouts]

Ok, class is cancelled tonight, so I am all yours. Be gentle.

[bulletsponge]

hey! i hope jail isnt like the kind i see on tv.


unless all the guards are women

[Chief Rum]

I don't get the bulletsponge vote. So I am sticking with hoops, and since I am leaving soon, that is probably where it will end up.

[Qwikshot]

I did post.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

I did post.

LOL, yes you did...that has been covered

[Qwikshot]

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Checking in

Originally Posted by Blade6119

LOL, yes you did...that has been covered

My bad. Lots to get lost in this. You read about votes, and then you read about dropping signals, then you read about "quotes", then you read about strange...it's enough to make my head explode.

Monday was a bear for me; today I went home early to recover from stress. So I was quite drowsy, and now I'm just waking up.

I may be a slow player in this game for a bit.

[Mr. Wednesday]

Wait, so where's the vote now? Is it a tie between Blade and bulletsponge?

Just a quick observation -- I'm suspicious of anyone who is openly discussing the "tells" right now. It does the nobles no good to "out" those at this stage.

[LoneStarGirl]

I am checking in. I am very busy at work and in the middle of a shift change. This is my last week to work this job so I should be able to devote more time soon.

VOTE JAIL ST. CRONIN

It is a payback vote.

[Lathum]

OK, I just read the thread and am going in a different direction. He has been all over the place and for me that is a little strange on day one, it seems he may be trying to force people to tip their hand.

VOTE JAIL MRWEDNESDAY

[RealDeal]

I got no idea. I don't see any codes anywhere.

vote Latham

Nothing personal, and will probably change once I see who the leaders turn out to be.

[Barkeep49]

Chief Rum Hoopsguy
Anxiety Blade
Mr. Wednesday Blade

WVUFan Blade
Bulletsponge Cronin
Dodgerchick Ntndeacon
Hoopsguy Bulletsponge
st.cronin bulletsponge
Blade6119 bulletsponge
Lonestargirl cronin

Bulletsponge 3 -- Hoopsguy, cronin, Blade
Blade 3 -- Anxiety Wednesday, WVU
Hoopsguy 1 -- Chief Rum
Cronin 2 -- Bulletsponge, Lonestar
NTN 1 -- Dodgerchick

[RealDeal]

sorry incorrect format before:

vote jail Latham

[hoopsguy]

OK, home now and did a quick review of the more recent posts. Update vote count as of Post #286:

Blade 3 -- Anxiety (139), MrW (179), WVU (193)
Bullet 3 -- Hoops (240), Cronin (270), Blade (272)
Cronin 2 -- Bullet (209), LSG (282)
Hoops 1 -- Rum (135)
LSG 1 -- Cronin (188)
Ntdeacon 1 -- DC (238)
MrW 1 -- Lathum (283)
Lathum 1 -- RealDeal (286)

[st.cronin]

I'll move my vote at deadline to prevent a tie.

[ntndeacon]

Vote Jail Bullet
I think it is likely that whoever we vote to jail today will be a noble. But at least we won't have killed our choice.

[BrianD]

Chief Rum is hanging onto the Hoops vote though I think Hoops is ok. I'm going to...

Vote Jail Chief Rum

[Fouts]

Well, I have an idea of who the good guys are, but no idea on which are the bad guys. I'm going to take a shot in the dark here at some points.

vote jail qwikshot

[hoopsguy]

Votes updated, including non-votes, as of Post #289:

Bullet 4 -- Hoops (240), Cronin (270), Blade (272), NTN (289)
Blade 3 -- Anxiety (139), MrW (179), WVU (193)
Cronin 2 -- Bullet (209), LSG (282)
Hoops 1 -- Rum (135)
Ntdeacon 1 -- DC (238)
MrW 1 -- Lathum (283)
Lathum 1 -- RealDeal (286)

Not voted - Qwikshot, Bek, Grey, Fouts, King, BrianD

[Greyroofoo]

vote jail fouts

more of a vengeance vote than anything as the guy never trusts me.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by BrianD

Chief Rum is hanging onto the Hoops vote though I think Hoops is ok. I'm going to...

Vote Jail Chief Rum

Brian, give me a compelling reason to switch. At the time I made my vote, there was a reason, because hoops' actions were odd. In reality, they are still odd, but I have admitted I don't think he is an assassin. But I have seen no support I accept as legitimate for anyone else either. So why switch? Hoops doesn't seem to be in any danger regardless.

At least I voted first and when it could have meant hoops was going to jail (and for a much of the afternoon, he was the leading votegetter). You voting now for someone without a vote, when it is extremely unlikely to make a difference and when you have been around all day, too, is very suspicious.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Brian, give me a compelling reason to switch. At the time I made my vote, there was a reason, because hoops' actions were odd. In reality, they are still odd, but I have admitted I don't think he is an assassin. But I have seen no support I accept as legitimate for anyone else either. So why switch? Hoops doesn't seem to be in any danger regardless.

At least I voted first and when it could have meant hoops was going to jail (and for a much of the afternoon, he was the leading votegetter). You voting now for someone without a vote, when it is extremely unlikely to make a difference and when you have been around all day, too, is very suspicious.

Honestly, I don't have a compelling reason. You were one of a number of people I hadn't put on a faction yet, and you were one of a number of people voting for someone I had put on a faction. It isn't a good reason, but I didn't get the feeling that Bullet or Blade were assassins. I'm sort of hoping this random vote shows something meaningful with the points after the first execution.

[hoopsguy]

So, do people think it is to our advantage to know how many factions are out there? If so, I've got a thought on how to start moving in that direction now rather than waiting until after the first execution to maybe learn that info ...

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by BrianD

I'm sort of hoping this random vote shows something meaningful with the points after the first execution.

I assure you it won't. Or if it does, you won't like what it tells you (assuming you're a noble).

[hoopsguy]

Brian, just out of curiosity would you tell me one person you think is also in my faction? Because I'm working with the idea that our code is pretty good and would like to know if I'm off-base with this notion.

There is a chance I won't comment on it either way, but I'm still curious

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So, do people think it is to our advantage to know how many factions are out there? If so, I've got a thought on how to start moving in that direction now rather than waiting until after the first execution to maybe learn that info ...

It probably wouldn't hurt us to know. Do you have an idea of how to figure it out without guessing at a probably number of total "villagers"?

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Brian, just out of curiosity would you tell me one person you think is also in my faction? Because I'm working with the idea that our code is pretty good and would like to know if I'm off-base with this notion.

There is a chance I won't comment on it either way, but I'm still curious

I don't think it is to our advantage to start outing faction members at this point, and I still don't have high confidence on some of the factions.