If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next - Page 6

Galaril · 11-15-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Of all the right wing shills in the world I think Jesse Waters is the one I would like to punch in the dick the most, and that is saying something.

It is tie between him and his buddy Guttfeld.

Lathum · 11-15-2020, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Galaril

It is tie between him and his buddy Guttfeld.

Guttfeld is a close second.

The faux indignation they show is just so irritating. It amazes me people thing any of them are even remotely genuine.

kingfc22 · 11-15-2020, 12:04 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...trump-economy/

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The parts of America that have seen strong job, population and economic growth in the past four years voted for Joe Biden, economic researchers found. In contrast, President Trump garnered his highest vote shares in counties that had some of the most sluggish job, population and economic growth during his term

sterlingice · 11-15-2020, 12:10 PM

Once again, "It's the economy, stupid"

SI

whomario · 11-16-2020, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cuervo72

It's too bad Twitter can't vary/get creative with their disclaimers.

"Official sources called this election differently"
"This is patently false"
"Yet again, this is a complete lie"
"Yeah...where to start with this one"
"Look, this is just crazy-pants bad"

Well, ain't that creepy:

I WON THE ELECTION!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 16, 2020

ISiddiqui · 11-16-2020, 10:36 AM

… can Cuervo get royalties?

Ben E Lou · 11-16-2020, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

This is where I'm really concerned about Parler (or something else) and OANN (or something else) becoming the "safe spaces" for much of the right.

"...the ONLY ones providing truthful, accurate numbers..."

ISiddiqui · 11-16-2020, 11:12 AM

My wife downloaded Parler because her parents are now on it... she lasted 5 minutes before she deleted it.

albionmoonlight · 11-16-2020, 11:47 AM

If people really want Trump to concede, they need to be pointing out every court loss (think he's up to 25 now) and make sure he thinks that we are laughing at him every time.

Atocep · 11-16-2020, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

My wife downloaded Parler because her parents are now on it... she lasted 5 minutes before she deleted it.

My wife's family has already asked if she's moving to Parler and she told them no. She then got into a into argument with a friend over it because she was trying to tell my wife that Facebook suppresses conservative voices. My wife pointed out that Facebook has Trump donors like Peter Thiel on the board and Zuckerberg has met with Trump multiple times. It went nowhere. She still insisted liberals are given a louder voice on Facebook.

The Trump cult thing is getting worse. Reasonable people are refusing to accept facts that go against alt-right talking points.

JPhillips · 11-16-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou

"...the ONLY ones providing truthful, accurate numbers..."

The visual and audio quality reminds me of a local station in Huntington, WV.

albionmoonlight · 11-16-2020, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

My wife's family has already asked if she's moving to Parler and she told them no. She then got into a into argument with a friend over it because she was trying to tell my wife that Facebook suppresses conservative voices. My wife pointed out that Facebook has Trump donors like Peter Thiel on the board and Zuckerberg has met with Trump multiple times. It went nowhere. She still insisted liberals are given a louder voice on Facebook.

The Trump cult thing is getting worse. Reasonable people are refusing to accept facts that go against alt-right talking points.

When conservatism conflicted with democracy, conservatives chose to abandon democracy.

I guess it shouldn't surprise us too much what their response would be when conservatism started to conflict with reality.

albionmoonlight · 11-16-2020, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips

The visual and audio quality reminds me of a local station in Huntington, WV.

I do think that people are getting way ahead of things predicting the demise of Fox and the rise of OANN/Newsmax/Trump TV/Russian State Television/whatever.

Fox has A+ broadcast quality. Fox has A+ marketing arms. Fox is an established player who understands this stuff.

Fox hasn't bothered even trying to crush these upstarts in the same way that an elephant doesn't really bother trying to crush a flea. Or Warner Brothers doesn't care about some indie studio in Portland trying to "reinvent movies."

But if Fox decides that these Nazi public access guys are competition and starts treating them accordingly, I think that Fox will be just fine.

cuervo72 · 11-16-2020, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

… can Cuervo get royalties?

It's the same alert from the 11/13 tweet, I just used it as a jumping-off point.

sterlingice · 11-16-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I do think that people are getting way ahead of things predicting the demise of Fox and the rise of OANN/Newsmax/Trump TV/Russian State Television/whatever.

Fox has A+ broadcast quality. Fox has A+ marketing arms. Fox is an established player who understands this stuff.

Fox hasn't bothered even trying to crush these upstarts in the same way that an elephant doesn't really bother trying to crush a flea. Or Warner Brothers doesn't care about some indie studio in Portland trying to "reinvent movies."

But if Fox decides that these Nazi public access guys are competition and starts treating them accordingly, I think that Fox will be just fine.

That's what a reasonable conservative friend of mine has said. If they wanted to, they could crush these little upstarts. If Trump doesn't play ball, he thinks Murdoch and the wealthy GOP donors will train all his guns on him and clear out the competition. But so long as they all feed the Fox ecosystem, they're allowed to survive. I'm not so certain - once you've had a hit of that sweet, sweet OANN-esque conspiracy theory, do you need more and more?

SI

albionmoonlight · 11-16-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

That's what a reasonable conservative friend of mine has said. If they wanted to, they could crush these little upstarts. If Trump doesn't play ball, he thinks Murdoch and the wealthy GOP donors will train all his guns on him and clear out the competition. But so long as they all feed the Fox ecosystem, they're allowed to survive. I'm not so certain - once you've had a hit of that sweet, sweet OANN-esque conspiracy theory, do you need more and more?

SI

It just seems to always play out the same way.

We all bitch about EA and Madden. But anytime someone starts a competing football game, we don't buy it.

We all complain about ESPN, but who do we end up watching?

We say that Hollywood movies are all cookie cutter and formulaic. But look at where we spend our dollars.

ISiddiqui · 11-16-2020, 02:39 PM

I mean I'm sure FOX has enough dirt (that would actually move the needle for conservatives) on Trump that they don't have to worry too much. And Fox News is on basic cable unlike OANN and the sort.

Atocep · 11-16-2020, 06:32 PM

I can only imagine what things on Parler are like because I've seen multiple people post in recent days something to the effect of "patriots on alternative social media sites are prepared to take America back".

Flasch186 · 11-16-2020, 06:55 PM

Well if any of them are Realtors they just passed an article to their code of ethics that states that they can't post harassing or hate speech trained at any "protected class," ANYTIME. That's a big change. They used to say it was only when performing their duties as a Realtor but now it's literally any time so.... get ready for some people to touch the fire on Parler and get turned in and lose their license to work as Realtors. For a while, they'll view Parler as fogged windows or curtains but soon they'll find out that it was a screen porch.

HerRealName · 11-16-2020, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

I can only imagine what things on Parler are like because I've seen multiple people post in recent days something to the effect of "patriots on alternative social media sites are prepared to take America back".

r/parlerwatch has started up. I think it's safe to say that it is exactly what you expect.

Lathum · 11-16-2020, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

r/parlerwatch has started up. I think it's safe to say that it is exactly what you expect.

good lord...

molson · 11-16-2020, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HerRealName

r/parlerwatch has started up. I think it's safe to say that it is exactly what you expect.

That's a very informative sub.

I just learned that that Dems are tainting donuts with COVID.

PilotMan · 11-17-2020, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by molson

That's a very informative sub.

I just learned that that Dems are tainting donuts with COVID.

Tell me more of these donuts you speak of.

GrantDawg · 11-17-2020, 06:41 AM

Mmmmmmmm...forbidden donuts.

Lathum · 11-17-2020, 08:00 AM

Its the perfect explanation. The donuts give you diabetes, then the tainted one gives you the rona, when you die of the rona it was because you had a pre existing condition.

molson · 11-17-2020, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Tell me more of these donuts you speak of.

They're pretty ordinary. Except for the COVID sprinkles.

CrimsonFox · 11-17-2020, 01:56 PM

my money's still on bullet to the head. As far as who does it, that's still up for grabs

CrimsonFox · 11-17-2020, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by molson

They're pretty ordinary. Except for the COVID sprinkles.

JPhillips · 11-17-2020, 02:05 PM

Rudy wants 20k a day to represent Trump. How can Rudy believe that Trump will ever pay him?

AlexB · 11-17-2020, 02:16 PM

If he does manage to somehow get his coup through, good money says this comes up in Senate within the next four years. Lifetime immunity and resetting term counts? They’ll be all over that!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54979804

Ksyrup · 11-17-2020, 06:37 PM

I'm not sure what's going to happen first - me damning this country to hell, or it going straight there on its own.

Deadlocked board in key Michigan county fails to certify vote totals by deadline https://t.co/NvtNbM4CAx
— Post Politics (@postpolitics) November 17, 2020

Atocep · 11-17-2020, 06:50 PM

That punts it over to the Secretary of State for certification. As far as Biden winning goes, it does nothing, but this just further cements the fact that we're unlikely to have another normal election.

Ksyrup · 11-17-2020, 06:52 PM

He effing won Michigan by 150K votes and there's not been a single credible allegation of fraud.

Atocep · 11-17-2020, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

He effing won Michigan by 150K votes and there's not been a single credible allegation of fraud.

They're digging in on something they've previously been ok with.

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The decision came after a number of absentee ballot poll books were found to be out of balance, a situation that did not stop the same board from certifying results in the August primary or the November 2016 election results.

kingfc22 · 11-17-2020, 06:56 PM

The last election was an 11k difference and not a peep. Fuck this political party

Swaggs · 11-17-2020, 06:57 PM

There is absolutely no consequence for bad behavior any longer. Not held accountable by voters because everyone is so partisan and laws are only selectively applied or enforced. If leaders have no fear of consequence from the people they represent or the law, we are headed in a real bad direction.

RainMaker · 11-17-2020, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

That punts it over to the Secretary of State for certification. As far as Biden winning goes, it does nothing, but this just further cements the fact that we're unlikely to have another normal election.

Tough to have democratic elections when one party does not believe in democracy.

Atocep · 11-17-2020, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Tough to have democratic elections when one party does not believe in democracy.

And it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation. If dems fight back then it's "both sides" and "respect democratic norms". If they don't then we don't have a democracy and it's dems fault for not putting forward better candidates.

ISiddiqui · 11-17-2020, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep

That punts it over to the Secretary of State for certification. As far as Biden winning goes, it does nothing, but this just further cements the fact that we're unlikely to have another normal election.

Right and the SecState of Michigan said she'd certify the votes regardless of what the County does.

JPhillips · 11-17-2020, 07:47 PM

Dems could at least have a coordinated message of outrage. Staying silent and moving on won't dissuade the GOP from going further next time.

bhlloy · 11-17-2020, 07:48 PM

That and the fact we have an outgoing president actively trying to tank the economy, cause crises around the world that could actively lead to war and screw over American citizens just to scorch the earth for the next guy because he can't handle losing.

After the initial relief of Biden winning, the last few days has firmly got back into "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" territory to be perfectly honest. We've maybe got a reprieve for 2 or 4 years and we're right back here in 2024 is the best case scenario.

Butter · 11-17-2020, 07:50 PM

4 years is just long enough for me to get my shit together and move out of this shithole country

Ksyrup · 11-17-2020, 08:02 PM

I told my wife 3 months ago that after the election, I was going to put in motion step 1 of my Canada 2030 plan. I wasn't joking, and even though Trump didn't win, I don't see any reason not to start the due diligence.

sterlingice · 11-17-2020, 08:05 PM

We've been kicking this around, too. Not so easy, though

SI

RainMaker · 11-17-2020, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I'm not sure what's going to happen first - me damning this country to hell, or it going straight there on its own.

Deadlocked board in key Michigan county fails to certify vote totals by deadline https://t.co/NvtNbM4CAx
— Post Politics (@postpolitics) November 17, 2020

You will be shocked to find that one of the guys has a ton of racist Facebook posts and seems sort of in on Q.

bhlloy · 11-17-2020, 08:08 PM

We backed off our plans after the Biden win (even finalizing our refi we've had in the fire for a while and making some other long term things) but I wish I'd stuck more to my guns to be honest. My wife could work in one of 20 countries worldwide if she wanted with a few months notice and as a fallback I have a UK passport (which is obviously a lot less valuable than it was a year ago as well, which is almost as depressing)

Lathum · 11-17-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ksyrup

I told my wife 3 months ago that after the election, I was going to put in motion step 1 of my Canada 2030 plan. I wasn't joking, and even though Trump didn't win, I don't see any reason not to start the due diligence.

My wife was offered a role in England with her company. We could live in the same town as her sister and our nieces, brother in law, and his family. Had Trump won we would have given it serious thought.

GrantDawg · 11-17-2020, 09:18 PM

Wayne County reverses course and unanimously certifies. A few minutes after, Trump send a tweet praising them for not certifying. Oops.

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Thomkal · 11-17-2020, 09:37 PM

And about 20 minutes or so after Trump and his Press Secretary praised them for their bravery

bronconick · 11-17-2020, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Wayne County reverses course and unanimously certifies. A few minutes after, Trump send a tweet praising them for not certifying. Oops.

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Options

#1: They may have checked their social media as their names, workplaces became common knowledge and decided it wasn't worth committing hari-kiri for the Fanta Menace

#2 The Secretary of State told them it was going to happen anyway

#3 They remembered they live in Detroit and would eventually have to go outside.

View Poll Results: If Trump Loses In November, What Do You Think Happens Next
Normal transition of power. He meets with Biden, stays until 1/20, comes to inauguration, etc.	5	5.56%
He doesn't fight the result, but resigns prior to the inauguration.	2	2.22%
He fights the result but gives up shortly before the inauguration (let's define "shortly" as "some time after the EC meets on 12/14")	30	33.33%
He fights the result all the way to January 20th. Has to be physically removed.	12	13.33%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up and resigns before the inauguration	6	6.67%
He fights the result for a short time, but gives up an then we have a normal transition as per option 1.	30	33.33%
Other. (You know you gotta specify this one.)	5	5.56%
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll

11-15-2020, 12:10 PM	#254
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	Once again, "It's the economy, stupid" SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!" Last edited by sterlingice : 11-15-2020 at 12:10 PM.

11-16-2020, 10:36 AM	#256
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	… can Cuervo get royalties? __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-16-2020, 11:12 AM	#258
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	My wife downloaded Parler because her parents are now on it... she lasted 5 minutes before she deleted it. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-16-2020, 02:39 PM	#267
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I mean I'm sure FOX has enough dirt (that would actually move the needle for conservatives) on Trump that they don't have to worry too much. And Fox News is on basic cable unlike OANN and the sort. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

11-16-2020, 11:47 AM	#259
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	If people really want Trump to concede, they need to be pointing out every court loss (think he's up to 25 now) and make sure he thinks that we are laughing at him every time.

11-16-2020, 06:32 PM	#268
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I can only imagine what things on Parler are like because I've seen multiple people post in recent days something to the effect of "patriots on alternative social media sites are prepared to take America back".

11-16-2020, 06:55 PM	#269
Flasch186 Coordinator Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jacksonville, FL	Well if any of them are Realtors they just passed an article to their code of ethics that states that they can't post harassing or hate speech trained at any "protected class," ANYTIME. That's a big change. They used to say it was only when performing their duties as a Realtor but now it's literally any time so.... get ready for some people to touch the fire on Parler and get turned in and lose their license to work as Realtors. For a while, they'll view Parler as fogged windows or curtains but soon they'll find out that it was a screen porch. __________________ Jacksonville-florida-homes-for-sale Putting a New Spin on Real Estate! ----------------------------------------------------------- Commissioner of the USFL USFL

11-17-2020, 06:41 AM	#274
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Mmmmmmmm...forbidden donuts.

11-17-2020, 08:00 AM	#275
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Its the perfect explanation. The donuts give you diabetes, then the tainted one gives you the rona, when you die of the rona it was because you had a pre existing condition.

11-17-2020, 01:56 PM	#277
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	my money's still on bullet to the head. As far as who does it, that's still up for grabs

11-17-2020, 02:05 PM	#279
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Rudy wants 20k a day to represent Trump. How can Rudy believe that Trump will ever pay him? __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-17-2020, 02:16 PM	#280
AlexB Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Newbury, England	If he does manage to somehow get his coup through, good money says this comes up in Senate within the next four years. Lifetime immunity and resetting term counts? They’ll be all over that! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54979804 __________________ 'A song is a beautiful lie', Idlewild, Self Healer. When you're smiling, the whole world smiles with you. Sports! Last edited by AlexB : 11-17-2020 at 02:18 PM.

11-17-2020, 06:37 PM	#281
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I'm not sure what's going to happen first - me damning this country to hell, or it going straight there on its own. Deadlocked board in key Michigan county fails to certify vote totals by deadline https://t.co/NvtNbM4CAx — Post Politics (@postpolitics) November 17, 2020 __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-17-2020, 06:50 PM	#282
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	That punts it over to the Secretary of State for certification. As far as Biden winning goes, it does nothing, but this just further cements the fact that we're unlikely to have another normal election.

11-17-2020, 06:52 PM	#283
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	He effing won Michigan by 150K votes and there's not been a single credible allegation of fraud. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-17-2020, 06:56 PM	#285
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The last election was an 11k difference and not a peep. Fuck this political party __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal Last edited by kingfc22 : 11-17-2020 at 06:57 PM.

11-17-2020, 06:57 PM	#286
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	There is absolutely no consequence for bad behavior any longer. Not held accountable by voters because everyone is so partisan and laws are only selectively applied or enforced. If leaders have no fear of consequence from the people they represent or the law, we are headed in a real bad direction. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-17-2020, 07:47 PM	#290
JPhillips Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Newburgh, NY	Dems could at least have a coordinated message of outrage. Staying silent and moving on won't dissuade the GOP from going further next time. __________________ To love someone is to strive to accept that person exactly the way he or she is, right here and now.. - Mr. Rogers

11-17-2020, 07:48 PM	#291
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	That and the fact we have an outgoing president actively trying to tank the economy, cause crises around the world that could actively lead to war and screw over American citizens just to scorch the earth for the next guy because he can't handle losing. After the initial relief of Biden winning, the last few days has firmly got back into "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" territory to be perfectly honest. We've maybe got a reprieve for 2 or 4 years and we're right back here in 2024 is the best case scenario.

11-17-2020, 07:50 PM	#292
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	4 years is just long enough for me to get my shit together and move out of this shithole country __________________ My listening habits

11-17-2020, 08:02 PM	#293
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I told my wife 3 months ago that after the election, I was going to put in motion step 1 of my Canada 2030 plan. I wasn't joking, and even though Trump didn't win, I don't see any reason not to start the due diligence. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

11-17-2020, 08:05 PM	#294
sterlingice Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in Houston!	We've been kicking this around, too. Not so easy, though SI __________________ Houston Hippopotami, III.3: 20th Anniversary Thread - All former HT players are encouraged to check it out! Janos: "Only America could produce an imbecile of your caliber!" Freakazoid: "That's because we make lots of things better than other people!"

11-17-2020, 08:08 PM	#296
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	We backed off our plans after the Biden win (even finalizing our refi we've had in the fire for a while and making some other long term things) but I wish I'd stuck more to my guns to be honest. My wife could work in one of 20 countries worldwide if she wanted with a few months notice and as a fallback I have a UK passport (which is obviously a lot less valuable than it was a year ago as well, which is almost as depressing)

11-17-2020, 09:18 PM	#298
GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	Wayne County reverses course and unanimously certifies. A few minutes after, Trump send a tweet praising them for not certifying. Oops. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

11-17-2020, 09:37 PM	#299
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	And about 20 minutes or so after Trump and his Press Secretary praised them for their bravery __________________ Coastal Carolina Baseball-2016 National Champion! 10/17/20-Coastal Football ranked in Top 25 for first time!

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