WW LXXXVII Terror at the University :Game over, Wolves win! - Page 6

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 07:16 PM

woulda been nice hoops... but we learned somethign anyways!

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 07:16 PM

Back, a couple cops helped push her out. She tried to make a u-turnand went off the road into what was rain soaked ground. Luckily they were able to get her out.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 07:17 PM

or will learn something

Danny · 01-08-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

woulda been nice hoops... but we learned somethign anyways!

What did we learn?

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 07:17 PM

I guess I didn't miss anything?

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Generally bad and people who caused the tie or failed to break it are not seen in a good light. Hannibal caused the tie, but myself, Jonathan and you were all here to potentially break it. I just didn't feel it was worth the risk of possibly killing the seer and I figured Gram would have made a vote for someone. I think in all of this, Gram might come out looking the worst for not breaking that tie or at least doing something.

I was seriously considering switching my vote to EF. I even had it typed up and ready to post. But I just couldn't pull the switch on the off chance that EF really is the seer (I see him more as either a wolf or the janitor rather than the seer right now). I was also waiting to see where Gram went with his vote, and I'm surprised that he didn't do anything.

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

What did we learn?

''well if hes good then we keep the seer alive a day or 2 if hes not then we dont really lose anything.....

Danny · 01-08-2009, 07:23 PM

Gram, what happened?

Grammaticus · 01-08-2009, 07:23 PM

im on my phone, ithought the deadline is 10pm

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 07:26 PM

hopefully i will be phone lynching on the 21st!!!!

hoopsguy · 01-08-2009, 07:26 PM

Should be some interesting conversation for Day 2. I'm off to watch football.

Danny · 01-08-2009, 07:27 PM

Have fun

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

im on my phone, ithought the deadline is 10pm

7 PM EST

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 07:29 PM

football? oh lame!

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hannibal Lecter

''well if hes good then we keep the seer alive a day or 2 if hes not then we dont really lose anything.....

Except if he's not and we let a wolf (or the janitor) go on day one, we miss a major chance to strike a huge blow to the wolves. Yeah, we might know the truth about EF in a couple of days, but at what cost? And what happens in a couple of days if the real seer reveals him/herself? Are we going to have a day full of Seer 1 vs. Seer 2?

Hopefully I'm wrong and EF is the seer like he claims and we are able to get some good info out of him before the wolves get him. But we'll see...

Abe Sargent · 01-08-2009, 07:36 PM

I wish I had been here, then I would have pushed on EF. I don;t buy it. It was the absolute best timing for a wolf to have claimed to be a seer. Find a time near deadline, but not too near, when many are gone, and hit the "Im a seer" button. Chances he was a seer: 1 in 15. Chances he was a wolf or the Janitor? Either a 3 or 4 in 15. I'd have played those odds.

Grammaticus · 01-08-2009, 07:37 PM

If I had dropped a quick vote without trying to read the 4 pages, I would have dropped it on RPI. No real reason other than he voted me saying I did not check in. I was actually the 2nd person to check in. Really nothing but day one crap.

Otherwise, Jackyl was the way to go. Let EF live and see if he gets killed by the wolves by day 2. That way you get one scan if he is good and a wolf on day two if he is bad.

jeff061 · 01-08-2009, 07:44 PM

I will go on record now as saying when it happened I was not a fan of Hannibal's move

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I was going to wait til tomorrow, but I don't want to look like I'm jumping a bandwagon two days in a row. Obviously no one's going to lynch Eagle tomorrow(right), but Hannibal may be the next best thing. I haven't put much thought into Hoops Jackal theory though, that may be worth exploring as well.

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 07:45 PM

Anyone want to reveal as Lathum?

jeff061 · 01-08-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

I wish I had been here, then I would have pushed on EF. I don;t buy it. It was the absolute best timing for a wolf to have claimed to be a seer. Find a time near deadline, but not too near, when many are gone, and hit the "Im a seer" button. Chances he was a seer: 1 in 15. Chances he was a wolf or the Janitor? Either a 3 or 4 in 15. I'd have played those odds.

Every bit of that is exactly what my thought process at the time was.

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 07:52 PM

I'll check back in later, time to fire up some Silent Hunter 3 and see if I can find me a British battleship.

Lathum · 01-08-2009, 08:24 PM

write up coming

Lathum · 01-08-2009, 08:29 PM

6 - EagleFan - jeheinz (79), Abe Sargent (86), jeff061 (109), The Jackal (135), DT (189), Hoops (196)
6 - The Jackel - Barkeep (49), Jonathan Ezarik (103), Telle (147), EF (164), Danny (194) Hannibal (229)
1 - Grammaticus - RPI-Fan (51),
1 - Danny - Chief Rum (46)

You have all been told of the wolf problem, yet like the indesisive young minds you are can't decide on who to lynch. Maybe it really isn't as big a problem as you think. You all go to bed, hoping to awake whole in the morning.

Lathum · 01-08-2009, 08:36 PM

You all awake in the morning and head down for breakfast before classes. You all look around and it seems no one is missing. Things are looking up, maybe all this talk of wolves is just an urban myth?

Lathum · 01-08-2009, 08:37 PM

Day 2 has begun.

I am going to make the deadline from this point out 10:00 PM EST. I apparently haven't mastered living on the west coast. I hope this works for everyone

Abe Sargent · 01-08-2009, 08:38 PM

That was like Day 0

Abe Sargent · 01-08-2009, 08:38 PM

Today is like Day 1

jeff061 · 01-08-2009, 08:40 PM

Would a BG defense cause this? No feedback at all?

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff061

Would a BG defense cause this? No feedback at all?

It's possible the BG guarded the correct person and prevented an attack. Or the BG guarded the wolf with the kill ability and that prevented the wolf from making the kill. Or maybe there was a conversion attempt. Or maybe the wolves were too stoned to actually do anything more than order in some pizza.

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 08:53 PM

Can't wait to hear what EF learned.

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 08:54 PM

If there was a BG defense, THANK YOU!!!

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 08:55 PM

I have a CoT of one:

Danny

EagleFan · 01-08-2009, 09:00 PM

Any suggestions for the night 2 scan? Not sure how long I last out in the open like this but we might as well ride out the good fortunes as long as possible.

jeff061 · 01-08-2009, 09:01 PM

I can't imagine you'll last the night, but I'm sure that'll be discussed in depth tomorrow

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The Jackal · 01-08-2009, 09:10 PM

I got drawn into dinner with the family, sorry about that. Glad to see that I didn't get the axe there at the end. Will come in with some thoughts later tonight or tomorrow.

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

I have a CoT of one:

Danny

Can you verify this, Danny? Did you get any notice that you were scanned?

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 10:20 PM

has anyone ever know they were scanned?

Hannibal Lecter · 01-08-2009, 10:21 PM

(not being a dick, but has anyone ever ran that wrinkle?)

Jonathan Ezarik · 01-08-2009, 10:43 PM

Well, it has been some time since I played, but back then it wasn't unusual for the subject of a scan to receive some kind of notification that something happened to them. They wouldn't be told per se that they were scanned, but that someone visited them during the night. Again, I don't know if that's the norm now or not.

hoopsguy · 01-09-2009, 12:00 AM

So why scan Danny? There were a half a dozen people who voted for you and he was not among them. Were you that eager to know about your roommate that you thought it did not make sense to scan the other guy in the run-off with you, or someone who you thought was orchestrating against you?

Chief Rum · 01-09-2009, 12:22 AM

I remember one time I came home to a tie, and I literally was ripping into everyone.

Can't really muster it for this one. For one thing, my vote was on neither candidate (although that was a foregone conclusion, since I had to be at work). Just a weird set of circumstances that resulted in a tie. Many people could have done something, but I find it hard to blame anyone specific.

It would be better if we knew now what this vote means, but it's not valueless, just because there was no lynch. These are still valuable data points we will get more from down the road. And in all likelihood, we lynch a villager. So, maybe this is a net positive for the village, where we don't kill a villager.

Really, thanks to I imagine the BG's great protection decision, we have a whole day of data to stew over, and not one villager is dead.

Chief Rum · 01-09-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

So why scan Danny? There were a half a dozen people who voted for you and he was not among them. Were you that eager to know about your roommate that you thought it did not make sense to scan the other guy in the run-off with you, or someone who you thought was orchestrating against you?

I thought it was a passable decision, considering he claims to be the seer and can PM with Danny. With that sort of information to give out, I would want to know if my roommate was a good guy, too.

Not saying he couldn't have gone elsewhere with the scan, but I don't think it's an awful decision.

All this premised on him actually being the seer, of course, which is clearly still in question. Personally, I'm thinking we should ignore the issue of EF today. If he dies on Night Two, then we can trust his results, and Danny. If he still lives, he's a wolf, and we kill him on Day Three, and we believe nothing he said. Either way, he's gone in two days at most, and we have at best one cleared player.

Danny · 01-09-2009, 12:45 AM

Here goes, I am the bodyguard, last night I guarded EagleFan. Nothing happened which means there was no kill attempt on EF. This means either the wolves screwed up and did not send in a kill order or EF is a wolf and was assigned to kill someone, but I guess couldn't because I was guarding him.

He did PM me that I was scanned and that he knew I was watching over him last night and must be the BG. He then questioned what I knew from the attack. It doesn't make sense of him not being a wolf unless the wolves screwed up. And if he is a wolf they clearly know I am the BG now anyway. I will be protecting myself tonight, so will have at least one more day here after the reveal.

Vote Eaglefan

Chief Rum · 01-09-2009, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Here goes, I am the bodyguard, last night I guarded EagleFan. Nothing happened which means there was no kill attempt on EF. This means either the wolves screwed up and did not send in a kill order or EF is a wolf and was assigned to kill someone, but I guess couldn't because I was guarding him.

He did PM me that I was scanned and that he knew I was watching over him last night and must be the BG. He then questioned what I knew from the attack. It doesn't make sense of him not being a wolf unless the wolves screwed up. And if he is a wolf they clearly know I am the BG now anyway. I will be protecting myself tonight, so will have at least one more day here after the reveal.

Vote Eaglefan

I am having trouble understanding what exactly is convincing you in your second paragraph above (specifically, the bolded sentence).

All that said, I understand the rest of it just fine, and I agree with you. Way to go, Danny.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

Abe Sargent · 01-09-2009, 01:11 AM

Vote Eaglefan

Danny · 01-09-2009, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I am having trouble understanding what exactly is convincing you in your second paragraph above (specifically, the bolded sentence).

All that said, I understand the rest of it just fine, and I agree with you. Way to go, Danny.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

That part was just reiterating what I said in the first paragraph that the only it makes sense of him not being a wolf if the wolves somehow didn't get in their night kill orders which is obviously unlikely.

Chief Rum · 01-09-2009, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

That part was just reiterating what I said in the first paragraph that the only it makes sense of him not being a wolf if the wolves somehow didn't get in their night kill orders which is obviously unlikely.

Cool, I get it. Thanks, Danny.

jeff061 · 01-09-2009, 07:29 AM

I don't want to jump to quick, but everything certainly adds up to him being a wolf. From the bizarre reveal yesterday to this and I don't think Danny would be so quick to put his neck on the line as a wolf, so I trust him.

It's only problematic if:

A. The wolves did screw up
B. BG doesn't get feedback(which would be silly)

That said, EF asking what he knew about the attack is a bit sketchy. But why would they send EF to attack when he had this kind of heat on them, when it was obvious he would be protected? Maybe they just sent orders in to early?

hoopsguy · 01-09-2009, 07:30 AM

Upon further review, I'm glad I did not have an opportunity to switch that vote yesterday. Stupid gut

Guess we can spend today looking at votes from yesterday, see how those stack up.

VOTE EAGLEFAN

jeff061 · 01-09-2009, 07:33 AM

Well I'm pretty sure, assuming Eagle is voted out and confirmed a wolf Hannibal should prepare himself for a lynching

.

So the hell with it. Vote Eaglefan

If he is the seer, which I don't think he is, he'd be killed tonight anyways. Not a huge loss.

01-08-2009, 07:36 PM	#266
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I wish I had been here, then I would have pushed on EF. I don;t buy it. It was the absolute best timing for a wolf to have claimed to be a seer. Find a time near deadline, but not too near, when many are gone, and hit the "Im a seer" button. Chances he was a seer: 1 in 15. Chances he was a wolf or the Janitor? Either a 3 or 4 in 15. I'd have played those odds. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-08-2009, 07:44 PM	#268
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I will go on record now as saying when it happened I was not a fan of Hannibal's move . I was going to wait til tomorrow, but I don't want to look like I'm jumping a bandwagon two days in a row. Obviously no one's going to lynch Eagle tomorrow(right), but Hannibal may be the next best thing. I haven't put much thought into Hoops Jackal theory though, that may be worth exploring as well. __________________

01-08-2009, 08:38 PM	#276
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	That was like Day 0 __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-08-2009, 08:38 PM	#277
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Today is like Day 1 __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

01-08-2009, 08:40 PM	#278
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	Would a BG defense cause this? No feedback at all? __________________

01-08-2009, 07:16 PM	#251
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	woulda been nice hoops... but we learned somethign anyways!

01-08-2009, 07:16 PM	#252
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Back, a couple cops helped push her out. She tried to make a u-turnand went off the road into what was rain soaked ground. Luckily they were able to get her out.

01-08-2009, 07:17 PM	#253
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	or will learn something

01-08-2009, 07:17 PM	#255
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I guess I didn't miss anything?

01-08-2009, 07:23 PM	#258
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Gram, what happened?

01-08-2009, 07:23 PM	#259
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	im on my phone, ithought the deadline is 10pm

01-08-2009, 07:26 PM	#260
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	hopefully i will be phone lynching on the 21st!!!!

01-08-2009, 07:26 PM	#261
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Should be some interesting conversation for Day 2. I'm off to watch football.

01-08-2009, 07:27 PM	#262
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Have fun

01-08-2009, 07:29 PM	#264
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	football? oh lame!

01-08-2009, 07:37 PM	#267
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	If I had dropped a quick vote without trying to read the 4 pages, I would have dropped it on RPI. No real reason other than he voted me saying I did not check in. I was actually the 2nd person to check in. Really nothing but day one crap. Otherwise, Jackyl was the way to go. Let EF live and see if he gets killed by the wolves by day 2. That way you get one scan if he is good and a wolf on day two if he is bad.

01-08-2009, 07:45 PM	#269
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Anyone want to reveal as Lathum?

01-08-2009, 07:52 PM	#271
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I'll check back in later, time to fire up some Silent Hunter 3 and see if I can find me a British battleship.

01-08-2009, 08:24 PM	#272
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	write up coming

01-08-2009, 08:29 PM	#273
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	6 - EagleFan - jeheinz (79), Abe Sargent (86), jeff061 (109), The Jackal (135), DT (189), Hoops (196) 6 - The Jackel - Barkeep (49), Jonathan Ezarik (103), Telle (147), EF (164), Danny (194) Hannibal (229) 1 - Grammaticus - RPI-Fan (51), 1 - Danny - Chief Rum (46) You have all been told of the wolf problem, yet like the indesisive young minds you are can't decide on who to lynch. Maybe it really isn't as big a problem as you think. You all go to bed, hoping to awake whole in the morning.

01-08-2009, 08:36 PM	#274
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	You all awake in the morning and head down for breakfast before classes. You all look around and it seems no one is missing. Things are looking up, maybe all this talk of wolves is just an urban myth?

01-08-2009, 08:37 PM	#275
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Day 2 has begun. I am going to make the deadline from this point out 10:00 PM EST. I apparently haven't mastered living on the west coast. I hope this works for everyone

01-08-2009, 08:53 PM	#280
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Can't wait to hear what EF learned.

01-08-2009, 08:54 PM	#281
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	If there was a BG defense, THANK YOU!!!

01-08-2009, 08:55 PM	#282
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I have a CoT of one: Danny

01-08-2009, 09:00 PM	#283
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Any suggestions for the night 2 scan? Not sure how long I last out in the open like this but we might as well ride out the good fortunes as long as possible.

01-08-2009, 09:01 PM	#284
jeff061 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: MA	I can't imagine you'll last the night, but I'm sure that'll be discussed in depth tomorrow . __________________

01-08-2009, 09:10 PM	#285
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I got drawn into dinner with the family, sorry about that. Glad to see that I didn't get the axe there at the end. Will come in with some thoughts later tonight or tomorrow.

01-08-2009, 10:20 PM	#287
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	has anyone ever know they were scanned?

01-08-2009, 10:21 PM	#288
Hannibal Lecter High School JV Join Date: Oct 2008	(not being a dick, but has anyone ever ran that wrinkle?)

01-08-2009, 10:43 PM	#289
Jonathan Ezarik College Benchwarmer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bossier City, LA	Well, it has been some time since I played, but back then it wasn't unusual for the subject of a scan to receive some kind of notification that something happened to them. They wouldn't be told per se that they were scanned, but that someone visited them during the night. Again, I don't know if that's the norm now or not.

01-09-2009, 12:00 AM	#290
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	So why scan Danny? There were a half a dozen people who voted for you and he was not among them. Were you that eager to know about your roommate that you thought it did not make sense to scan the other guy in the run-off with you, or someone who you thought was orchestrating against you?

01-09-2009, 12:22 AM	#291
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I remember one time I came home to a tie, and I literally was ripping into everyone. Can't really muster it for this one. For one thing, my vote was on neither candidate (although that was a foregone conclusion, since I had to be at work). Just a weird set of circumstances that resulted in a tie. Many people could have done something, but I find it hard to blame anyone specific. It would be better if we knew now what this vote means, but it's not valueless, just because there was no lynch. These are still valuable data points we will get more from down the road. And in all likelihood, we lynch a villager. So, maybe this is a net positive for the village, where we don't kill a villager. Really, thanks to I imagine the BG's great protection decision, we have a whole day of data to stew over, and not one villager is dead. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

01-09-2009, 12:45 AM	#293
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Here goes, I am the bodyguard, last night I guarded EagleFan. Nothing happened which means there was no kill attempt on EF. This means either the wolves screwed up and did not send in a kill order or EF is a wolf and was assigned to kill someone, but I guess couldn't because I was guarding him. He did PM me that I was scanned and that he knew I was watching over him last night and must be the BG. He then questioned what I knew from the attack. It doesn't make sense of him not being a wolf unless the wolves screwed up. And if he is a wolf they clearly know I am the BG now anyway. I will be protecting myself tonight, so will have at least one more day here after the reveal. Vote Eaglefan

01-09-2009, 01:11 AM	#295
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Vote Eaglefan __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent