Werewolf LXXXIX - 30 Days of Night - GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS! - Page 6

Danny · 03-19-2009, 06:10 PM

Peregrine, how are you leaning right now?

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:16 PM

Looks like another one of our epic showdowns...which will probably end up in nothing more than two villagers.

Sigh.

Peregrine · 03-19-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

Peregrine, how are you leaning right now?

To be honest I'm not that great with either option. I just think it's unlikely that PB with an early vote on Day 1 would have pegged a wolf - I mean, he knows that Day 1 is really unpredictable and bandwagons can easily form - anything can happen. And to me the fact that he didn't change his votes around later when it seemed more likely that Abe might die is another indicator of that. That's just me though.

Danny, you're one of the more active people right now and I'm reluctant to pull the trigger there, at the moment anyway.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:27 PM

That's a fair point, I suppose.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:28 PM

Actually, I wouldn't suppose. Sounds logical.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 06:32 PM

This might turn out to be too early, but I have to leave, it's a tie vote, and unless this a villager/villager showdown, the wolves will likely be able to make sure I am lynched. And Abe is the result and is good, then I am an almost sure fire lynch tomorrow. I'm also not a very important role.

I am Stella, the estranged wife.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:36 PM

Giggles. You're a woman.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:36 PM

I knew it.

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

I knew it.

you know?

unvote danny
vote telle

Poli · 03-19-2009, 06:44 PM

Hey, don't take that out of context!

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:01 PM

If that's true (Danny's reveal), one person can confirm it.

Peregrine · 03-19-2009, 07:01 PM

Interesting, claphamsa. Telle was the second vote on Abe yesterday, the "jump-on" vote, and voted for him again today, hit and run style. Also has been very quiet the whole game. Sounds like a good option since I don't like the other two.

vote telle

Danny · 03-19-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

If that's true (Danny's reveal), one person can confirm it.

That would be a bad move by my husband, but if I'm not then the real Stella would speak up.

Danny · 03-19-2009, 07:05 PM

im off hopefully this turns out well

claphamsa · 03-19-2009, 07:07 PM

cheif, exactly, but no real point in doing it now.... worst comes to worst we revisit in a day or 2!

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:08 PM

Why would it be a bad move? You guys (assuming you're telling the truth) have no abilities except for being able to PM each other. Your primary good is as revealed and confirmed villagers. I don't put much stock in the value of your PM discussions, I admit. Not saying there isn't value there, but there is more value in being outed. It drastically decreases the pool for us to find wolves.

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by claphamsa

cheif, exactly, but no real point in doing it now.... worst comes to worst we revisit in a day or 2!

I must admit I missed the telle thing. What's that about? I am researching something else right now, so I don't want to go do another search if you or Peregrine could just point it out for me.

The Jackal · 03-19-2009, 07:16 PM

Abe Sargent 4 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199, Telle 239)
Danny 3 (dubb 203, Abe 217, Schmidty 240)
Telle 2 (clap 259, Peregrine 262)

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:17 PM

Not ready to give Danny a pass for this reveal. I am going to vote for him for him for now to put the pressure back on and see what comes up.

VOTE DANNY

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:43 PM

Wow, so no one's saying or doing anything?

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:51 PM

Hmm, only the moderator knows what happens in a tie. I myself don't know that either choice is a good one. If no one else is going to move their vote, I am tyhinking of keeping mine here, and leaving it up to the fates. I can seal Abe's doom, though, by switching off of Danny (or switching to Abe).

But I would have thought we have more commentary from people now, and we also have two no votes so far, by my count (KWhit, Pass).

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny

This might turn out to be too early, but I have to leave, it's a tie vote, and unless this a villager/villager showdown, the wolves will likely be able to make sure I am lynched. And Abe is the result and is good, then I am an almost sure fire lynch tomorrow. I'm also not a very important role.

I am Stella, the estranged wife.

For the remainder of this game ye shall be know as.... saldana

Peregrine · 03-19-2009, 07:54 PM

Hmm two no votes, and Kwhit came in with the clincher with 2 minutes left last night - wonder if he'll do it again tonight.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Why would it be a bad move? You guys (assuming you're telling the truth) have no abilities except for being able to PM each other. Your primary good is as revealed and confirmed villagers. I don't put much stock in the value of your PM discussions, I admit. Not saying there isn't value there, but there is more value in being outed. It drastically decreases the pool for us to find wolves.

The husband can find the master vampire AND would kill the master vampire if he is attacked by him at night. That would be a potentially big thing for the wolves to know, that way they don't send the master vampire out to do that kill.

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

The husband can find the master vampire AND would kill the master vampire if he is attacked by him at night. That would be a potentially big thing for the wolves to know, that way they don't send the master vampire out to do that kill.

You're right. I missed that. Okay, definitely the hubby should not reveal.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:00 PM

Not changing off Abe here, I think the PB vote was clearly an attempt to signal the wolves. Especiallly since his reason was one which would not cause anyone else to pile on.

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Not changing off Abe here, I think the PB vote was clearly an attempt to signal the wolves. Especiallly since his reason was one which would not cause anyone else to pile on.

You could very well be right. I'm not so sure it's so cut and dry. I know a lot was made of PB not resisting the lynch. Was he even around late yesterday? I wasn't around to see.

Poli · 03-19-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Wow, so no one's saying or doing anything?

Not sure there's anything to say. Not sure your 'pressure' could pressure either. Both said they wouldn't be here at the deadline. The only pressure you could have applied is if the vamps/wolves were concerned that either were a vamp/wolf and might get lynched. I suspect we would have seen a late swing of votes in that case.

Since we didn't, I suspect both Abe and Danny are villagers.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

You could very well be right. I'm not so sure it's so cut and dry. I know a lot was made of PB not resisting the lynch. Was he even around late yesterday? I wasn't around to see.

He posted at 7:21 last night and had 3 votes to abe's 2 at that point.

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Poli

Not sure there's anything to say. Not sure your 'pressure' could pressure either. Both said they wouldn't be here at the deadline. The only pressure you could have applied is if the vamps/wolves were concerned that either were a vamp/wolf and might get lynched. I suspect we would have seen a late swing of votes in that case.

Since we didn't, I suspect both Abe and Danny are villagers.

Yeah, that was my point, in the hopes a tie would pressure movement and give us something to chew on with the results, amybe give us more candidates. If indeed they are both villagers after all, we could be sitting here, the butts of silent wolf laughter as we agonziae over these two candidates.

Deadline, BTW. Anyone seen The Jackal?

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

He posted at 7:21 last night and had 3 votes to abe's 2 at that point.

He was already on Abe, though, right?

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

He was already on Abe, though, right?

Yeah, but I have never seen PB go quietly without at least a fake reveal when he is on the side of the wolves. Maybe he has and I haven't noticed but usually he goes out kicking.

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 08:13 PM

Abe is back. Let me get cught up

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

Yeah, but I have never seen PB go quietly without at least a fake reveal when he is on the side of the wolves. Maybe he has and I haven't noticed but usually he goes out kicking.

Interesting. Probably because work kept me from being around the "day to day" posting in past games, I don't specifically remember a style for PB in these situations. It's quite possible he was just okay with being lynched, too, since he knew he wasn't a wolf. But there is something to what you're saying here.

One thing that has me sketchy a little on you, though, is that you so quickly piled on the third vote on Abe, today. I think what you have here is plausible, but I admit I have been trying to resolve that out of the gate vote run on Abe all day. Just doesn't settle right.

Passacaglia · 03-19-2009, 08:17 PM

Gah, sorry I missed the vote -- car trouble. Think I can still get one in? What's the situation?

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 08:17 PM

It's tied, isn't it?

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Interesting. Probably because work kept me from being around the "day to day" posting in past games, I don't specifically remember a style for PB in these situations. It's quite possible he was just okay with being lynched, too, since he knew he wasn't a wolf. But there is something to what you're saying here.

One thing that has me sketchy a little on you, though, is that you so quickly piled on the third vote on Abe, today. I think what you have here is plausible, but I admit I have been trying to resolve that out of the gate vote run on Abe all day. Just doesn't settle right.

My vote was only going on Abe today because of the PB connection (as I said, that is exactly the way I had played when I had that type of role, voting early on a wolf with a reason given which was crafted to not give anyone else a reason to vote for that person to try to prevent a pile on). I don't have enough reason for it to go anywhere else. As for the number of the vote it was on Abe, that is merely due to the time I was on and not knowing if I could get back on today (I missed all of yesterday due to work and sleep).

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

It's tied, isn't it?

Yeah.

The Jackal · 03-19-2009, 08:27 PM

Was eating dinner with family, processing shortly.

The Jackal · 03-19-2009, 08:29 PM

Abe Sargent 4 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199, Telle 239)
Danny 4 (dubb 203, Abe 217, Schmidty 240, Chief Rum 269)
Telle 2 (clap 259, Peregrine 262)

The Jackal · 03-19-2009, 08:30 PM

Tonight it has been decided that no one will be lynched.

This will not happen again.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:31 PM

At this point we have to look at CR, who saved Abe and forced the no lynch.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 08:32 PM

I think we had a wolf handed to us and lt him get away...

Chief Rum · 03-19-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

At this point we have to look at CR, who saved Abe and forced the no lynch.

I left it to the moderator. Most of the time there is a tie mechanism (in fact, that's what I was going off of, what The Jackal has in Post #1) determining a lynch. The Jackal chose not to make that public.

I don't like that it's a no lynch, but I had my reasons for that vote, and I gave them. I voted with plenty of time left, and we had two people still out there who hadn't voted.

If Abe ends up a wolf, then lynch me if you must. But I did what I did to try to get more answers and more suspects. It didn't work, and worse yet, no one even got lynched.

Abe Sargent · 03-19-2009, 08:48 PM

I guess I might have preferred dying today to dying tomorrow, soi the village can move on, but that was not in teh cards.

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 09:14 PM

:sigh: Whats the best way for a wolf to fake reveal when he is as good as dead? That would be to say he is the wife and force the husband to come out a reveal himself. The husband is the most dangerous role to the wolves at this point. And if he's gonna go why not force that reveal? With that said I'm not sure that reveal really proves anything without a husband reveal which would be awful at this point.

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 09:24 PM

We now have Pass shenanigans two days in a row at lynch time I see. I understand the whole car troubles thing and hate to bust balls over something like that but how much longer can this go on before it enters the conversation?

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 09:25 PM

And now that Schmidty is here I swear that if he comes in and agrees with me completely again my head is going to explode.

EagleFan · 03-19-2009, 09:36 PM

From what I heard, Schmidty agrees with dubb...

dubb93 · 03-19-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleFan

From what I heard, Schmidty agrees with dubb...

03-19-2009, 06:16 PM	#252
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Looks like another one of our epic showdowns...which will probably end up in nothing more than two villagers. Sigh. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 06:27 PM	#254
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	That's a fair point, I suppose. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 06:28 PM	#255
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Actually, I wouldn't suppose. Sounds logical. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 06:36 PM	#257
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Giggles. You're a woman. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 06:36 PM	#258
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I knew it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 06:10 PM	#251
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Peregrine, how are you leaning right now?

03-19-2009, 06:32 PM	#256
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	This might turn out to be too early, but I have to leave, it's a tie vote, and unless this a villager/villager showdown, the wolves will likely be able to make sure I am lynched. And Abe is the result and is good, then I am an almost sure fire lynch tomorrow. I'm also not a very important role. I am Stella, the estranged wife.

03-19-2009, 06:44 PM	#260
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hey, don't take that out of context! __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

03-19-2009, 07:01 PM	#261
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	If that's true (Danny's reveal), one person can confirm it. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 07:01 PM	#262
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Interesting, claphamsa. Telle was the second vote on Abe yesterday, the "jump-on" vote, and voted for him again today, hit and run style. Also has been very quiet the whole game. Sounds like a good option since I don't like the other two. vote telle

03-19-2009, 07:05 PM	#264
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	im off hopefully this turns out well

03-19-2009, 07:07 PM	#265
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	cheif, exactly, but no real point in doing it now.... worst comes to worst we revisit in a day or 2! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

03-19-2009, 07:08 PM	#266
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Why would it be a bad move? You guys (assuming you're telling the truth) have no abilities except for being able to PM each other. Your primary good is as revealed and confirmed villagers. I don't put much stock in the value of your PM discussions, I admit. Not saying there isn't value there, but there is more value in being outed. It drastically decreases the pool for us to find wolves. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 07:16 PM	#268
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Abe Sargent 4 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199, Telle 239) Danny 3 (dubb 203, Abe 217, Schmidty 240) Telle 2 (clap 259, Peregrine 262)

03-19-2009, 07:17 PM	#269
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Not ready to give Danny a pass for this reveal. I am going to vote for him for him for now to put the pressure back on and see what comes up. VOTE DANNY __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 07:43 PM	#270
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Wow, so no one's saying or doing anything? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 07:51 PM	#271
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Hmm, only the moderator knows what happens in a tie. I myself don't know that either choice is a good one. If no one else is going to move their vote, I am tyhinking of keeping mine here, and leaving it up to the fates. I can seal Abe's doom, though, by switching off of Danny (or switching to Abe). But I would have thought we have more commentary from people now, and we also have two no votes so far, by my count (KWhit, Pass). __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-19-2009, 07:54 PM	#273
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	Hmm two no votes, and Kwhit came in with the clincher with 2 minutes left last night - wonder if he'll do it again tonight.

03-19-2009, 08:00 PM	#276
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	Not changing off Abe here, I think the PB vote was clearly an attempt to signal the wolves. Especiallly since his reason was one which would not cause anyone else to pile on.

03-19-2009, 08:13 PM	#283
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Abe is back. Let me get cught up __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-19-2009, 08:17 PM	#285
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Gah, sorry I missed the vote -- car trouble. Think I can still get one in? What's the situation?

03-19-2009, 08:17 PM	#286
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	It's tied, isn't it? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-19-2009, 08:27 PM	#289
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Was eating dinner with family, processing shortly.

03-19-2009, 08:29 PM	#290
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Abe Sargent 4 (Danny 192, Poli 195, EF 199, Telle 239) Danny 4 (dubb 203, Abe 217, Schmidty 240, Chief Rum 269) Telle 2 (clap 259, Peregrine 262)

03-19-2009, 08:30 PM	#291
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Tonight it has been decided that no one will be lynched. This will not happen again.

03-19-2009, 08:31 PM	#292
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	At this point we have to look at CR, who saved Abe and forced the no lynch.

03-19-2009, 08:32 PM	#293
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	I think we had a wolf handed to us and lt him get away...

03-19-2009, 08:48 PM	#295
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	I guess I might have preferred dying today to dying tomorrow, soi the village can move on, but that was not in teh cards. __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

03-19-2009, 09:14 PM	#296
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	:sigh: Whats the best way for a wolf to fake reveal when he is as good as dead? That would be to say he is the wife and force the husband to come out a reveal himself. The husband is the most dangerous role to the wolves at this point. And if he's gonna go why not force that reveal? With that said I'm not sure that reveal really proves anything without a husband reveal which would be awful at this point.

03-19-2009, 09:24 PM	#297
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	We now have Pass shenanigans two days in a row at lynch time I see. I understand the whole car troubles thing and hate to bust balls over something like that but how much longer can this go on before it enters the conversation?

03-19-2009, 09:25 PM	#298
dubb93 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2004	And now that Schmidty is here I swear that if he comes in and agrees with me completely again my head is going to explode.

03-19-2009, 09:36 PM	#299
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	From what I heard, Schmidty agrees with dubb...

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