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Old 06-15-2011, 08:34 PM   #251
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So why do you think a wolf is necessarily on a Mau voter? If you think bhlloy is a villager, Zinto could make more sense.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:37 PM   #252
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Wolves night killed Chubby who limited the non Mau voters to three total people and only two on the second candidate. It seems more likely if there were 0 or even 1 wolf on Mau that they would kill one of his voters.

Of course, we're still going on the assumption Mau was good, but we can't be sure of that.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:43 PM   #253
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I guess I will nail in Packers coffin for now. He has been really quiet and I would really like to hear from him before we lynch him but for now.

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Old 06-15-2011, 08:50 PM   #254
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And Jag, I know my explanations are not the most sound. But this is only day two and having no role information to go on, about the best we have is weak assumptions
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:51 PM   #255
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You guys don't want to vote for me...
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:52 PM   #256
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Wolves night killed Chubby who limited the non Mau voters to three total people and only two on the second candidate. It seems more likely if there were 0 or even 1 wolf on Mau that they would kill one of his voters.

Of course, we're still going on the assumption Mau was good, but we can't be sure of that.

Unless there was another consideration, like role hunting. But I accept that that would be risky for them to do. If there were two wolves on Mau, what would be the combo though? PF came out voting bhlloy today, Natcizo opened D1 voting on PF. Doesn't seem likely to me.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:53 PM   #257
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Either reveal or don't, I hate quasi / cryptic reveals like "you guys don't want to vote for me"
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:54 PM   #258
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Unless there was another consideration, like role hunting. But I accept that that would be risky for them to do. If there were two wolves on Mau, what would be the combo though? PF came out voting bhlloy today, Natcizo opened D1 voting on PF. Doesn't seem likely to me.

From your point of view this is true, but since I don't know your identity, it could very well be you with one of the three.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:55 PM   #259
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That said, I agree with your general premise that in a game where a wolf wouldn't even gain trust for voting a fellow wolf, that it would be a bad play and make the wolf combinations you stated unlikely.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:55 PM   #260
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And Jag, I know my explanations are not the most sound. But this is only day two and having no role information to go on, about the best we have is weak assumptions

I know the feeling.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:56 PM   #261
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Also, in Narc's defense, he really doesn't have a choice but to be an early voter. That said, he could be a wolf and I probably shouldn't give him a pass at all.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:59 PM   #262
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The sudden run on me is pretty suspicious. I wouldn't be surprised if both wolves were in that group, but definitely one of them.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:00 PM   #263
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It's very tough to ever get a read on Narc because his votes aren't reflective of the situation close to deadline.

PF - if you are going to reveal better do it soon. Waiting just means people aren't around to take their votes off you, and it also makes it look like you are trying to get your story straight.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:00 PM   #264
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I will agree that the run on you is quite interesting PF
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:01 PM   #265
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He usually votes early because he's done hours of analysis before most of us wake up. I don't really read into him voting early as I might for others.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:04 PM   #266
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Work just called and I need to step away from the computer. I'm not sure I will be back before lynch or not.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:05 PM   #267
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The run doesn't strike me as overly suspicious. More than likely Spleen voted for the person he hoped would gain the most traction and it happened. It will be interesting to see how the last hour plays out though.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:10 PM   #268
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I think I'll be leaving my vote
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:27 PM   #269
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Sorry, had to put the kid to bed.

As much as I wanted to wait it out at least one more night, I would rather get the very little I have left out and get NK'd than die without anyone knowing. I am the priest. I scanned mauboy after his death and he was, in fact, a villager. With that knowledge, I think the rest of the village could have a decent shot with good voting.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:28 PM   #270
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"the very little info I have left out" is what that should have said
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:29 PM   #271
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I think looking at JAG might be a good idea. He had a second vote on a presumed villager (Chubby) yesterday and then started the run on mau (a confirmed villager) right after that. Then he was all too eager to jump to the vote on me as well. Just a thought.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #272
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I want to at least make it close and save myself tonight.

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:30 PM   #273
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Make it close and hope someone switches, that is.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:32 PM   #274
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If you're really the priest, you have a reasonable shot to survive if you survive the vote, depending on what the wolves thought they got N1.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:37 PM   #275
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Wonder if I should switch, I think it's likely that is a fake reveal, but I'll see if anyone else disputes it
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:39 PM   #276
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Wonder if I should switch, I think it's likely that is a fake reveal, but I'll see if anyone else disputes it

Even in a game like this, I am not ballsy enough to pull something like that off. But believe what you will, I suppose
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:40 PM   #277
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I hope someone switches and at least gives me a shot to prove it (as best I can, I suppose). If you lynch me, this game is likely over since the rest of the village would be firing blind (Unless the seer is still alive, but even then...)
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:42 PM   #278
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I am going to move off of Packer at this point since barring someone else counter-revealing I think it is for the best to not risk it. We will have to see what Narcizo and Spleen have to say when they get on. I am not really jumping to move to Spleen since if he has a role he can not come out and reveal at this point.

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:42 PM   #279
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I guess without a counter-reveal I may as well go with this and hope Chubby wasn't the real priest.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:45 PM   #280
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I guess I would swith to bh over spleen at this point
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:46 PM   #281
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Me too Danny. After hearing more from people today, having Spleen leave his vote like he did really isn't a smart wolf play in this small of a game.

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:47 PM   #282
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Not voting spleen
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:48 PM   #283
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I am more comfortable with Bhlloy then Spleen since he can reveal if need be.

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Old 06-15-2011, 09:49 PM   #284
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:50 PM   #285
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I don't see how bhlloy could be a wolf. I don't see a possible partner for him.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:52 PM   #286
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Maybe Narcizo, but then you'd have to believe they both voted Mau yesterday and quickly voted 1 and 2 on spleen.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:52 PM   #287
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Unless JAG switches, the lynch will be spleen either way.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:53 PM   #288
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Or you, JAG
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:53 PM   #289
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Hmmm
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:54 PM   #290
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Vanilla villager guys. If I go down tonight to save the priest, so be it
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:54 PM   #291
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In a game like this I could easily the wolves stacking their votes early
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:55 PM   #292
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Well, this sucks.

I really don't like the Narc gets to put me on the radar and disappear for the rest of the day.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #293
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I'm feeling good about a spleen vote now.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #294
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If Spleen doesn't have a role to reveal then I am going to assume that we are vanilla villager for both. I almost want to try and get another candidate going before the deadline but it is probably too late.
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #295
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Well, this sucks.

I really don't like the Narc gets to put me on the radar and disappear for the rest of the day.

Not that he can help it - he is in a totally opposite time zone IIRC
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:58 PM   #296
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I have no choice. The only way to save myself is to...

UNVOTE PACKERFANATIC
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:00 PM   #297
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Not that he can help it - he is in a totally opposite time zone IIRC

I didn't know that.
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:01 PM   #298
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spleen - narcizo (177), bhlloy (192), JAG (279)
bhlloy - packerfan (281), zinto (283), danny (284), spleen (296)
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:01 PM   #299
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Deadline
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Old 06-15-2011, 10:01 PM   #300
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The village votes, they think they have found their werewolf. Some call for Spleen1015's head, but it is Bhlloy that garners the most votes. He is hauled to the gallows and hung until dead.

Night falls.
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