WW - The Princess Bride (Game Over - Wolves Win)

[Danny]

We now know that it wasn't really a mattter of anyone trying to save bhlloy.

[Danny]

I can only guess they thought he had an important role.

[bhlloy]

sorry guys, I just saw I died. peace

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by EagleFan

Went back to using IE after using Chrome for a little while and I am still having an issue with the View First Unread button. It takes me back to the same post as the very first time I used that button in the thread. It has done that ever snce I went to IE 9.

Has anyone else run into this? If so, have you found a solution for it?

Having problems with this as well, on this new laptop. I didn't have it on my old laptop (last month) that was running IE9.

Also having some issues with Pandora, and random display driver issues. I'm about at the point where I'm ready to really start digging into these issues and see if I can find some ways of improving my IE experience. Easy answer would be "other browser" but I'm now working for a pretty hardcore MS partner who would frown upon that behavior. So might as well figure it out ...

[Danny]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I don't really have much on bhlloy besides a tiny bit of semantics, and DV is pinging all over.

unvote bhlloy
vote DV

You probably don't bother doing this as a wolf

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

It's a bad play because they didn't vote him before he left. He wasn't in awful shape when he left and in the event he had an important role, it was a bad move for everyone to vote for him later rather than earlier

telle votes darth 5-5-4-1
darth unvotes narc 5-5-3-1
darth votes bhlloy 6-5-3-1
mauboy unvotes narc 6-5-2-1
mauboy votes darth 6-6-2-1
jackal unvotes bhlloy 6-5-2-1
jackal votes darth 7-5-2-1
bhlloy unvotes ntn 7-5-2
bhlloy votes darth 8-5-2
pf unvotes narc 8-5-1
pf votes darth 9-5-1

Darth was 5-5 with bhlloy when he voted, before leaving. You don't call that "in awful shape"? He knew he was leaving, he knew he had a very high chance of being lynched. This isn't a case of someone being blindsided while they were gone, at all.

That said, now that we know bhlloy was good we can put away the conspiracy theories anyway, since the wolves didn't need to do a thing in a 6-5 villager villager runoff.

[PackerFanatic]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

That's a rather surprising kill if you ask me, but at least he was vanilla. I sure had my sights on the wrong people today.

Agreed - really kills most of the voting from today, if you ask me (at least in terms of looking at the save angle)

[Autumn]

I have to think that bhlloy gave them a roled villager vibe, which I can see, I kind of got that from him too. I don't think I would have given away all that voting history based on it though, that's a gutsy call by the wolves.

[Autumn]

I'm now fine (do you hear me bhlloy?) with going after some quiet players for day 2. I don't think there's much of anything to dredge out of the voting at this point to base votes on.

[EagleFan]

Day Two has begun!

[Danny]

I think Narcizo might be worth a look, but right now my gut says to vote Autumn. I'll wait on that for now though.

[Autumn]

So Lathum, Mrbug, mauboy and ntn look like our quietest by post number so far. Lathum said he would be busy for a couple of days. NTN gets enough grief for being quiet without me helping. I'll be looking at the other two, especially mrbug who I recall just having two driveby votes.

[Danny]

You know what, I waited long enough!

Vote Autumn

This may change, but I am going with my gut for now

[PackerFanatic]

Would have to put dacman in that list too, since he didn't show at all.

[Autumn]

Oh a no show, didn't even notice that. Since he's new I'd give him a pass I guess.

[Autumn]

I assume, Danny, I'm suffering from "Autumn talks enough he gets votes" syndrome, but is there anything particular making me ping you?

I haven't been very active, and not at all useful, the last couple games, so I'm trying to get back to my regular chatty, not much useful self.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

So Lathum, Mrbug, mauboy and ntn look like our quietest by post number so far. Lathum said he would be busy for a couple of days. NTN gets enough grief for being quiet without me helping. I'll be looking at the other two, especially mrbug who I recall just having two driveby votes.

While going after less active people isn't bad, it seems like you want to do so just for the sake of doing it. You also pretty clearly want to help set the candidate(s) early in the day which I like to do as a wolf also.

Out of the players you mention, Mau is the only one who was less active than their typical early play style / known availability.

[Autumn]

I'll go ahead and put a vote up on Mr.Bug and get the fire under him. Mauboy I feel is likelier to get chatty on his own.

VOTE MRBUG708

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I assume, Danny, I'm suffering from "Autumn talks enough he gets votes" syndrome, but is there anything particular making me ping you?

I haven't been very active, and not at all useful, the last couple games, so I'm trying to get back to my regular chatty, not much useful self.

It's not so much that, it was a bit if a vibe, and your last post is the one that got me to vote. It seems like you wanted to set the tone of candidates early and really had no reason for picking the people you did. Again, ntn always plays this way and he's not going to start posting a lot just because people vote him. Lathum said he was not to be real active today and Mr. Bug plays this way early in games and becomes more active as they go on.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

While going after less active people isn't bad, it seems like you want to do so just for the sake of doing it. You also pretty clearly want to help set the candidate(s) early in the day which I like to do as a wolf also.

Out of the players you mention, Mau is the only one who was less active than their typical early play style / known availability.

I want to do it for the sake of getting people on the block early, so we can get vote history. At least from my viewpoint, A day that mostly involved two villagers running off against each other isn't going to help me guide my vote, not at this point. Once we maybe clear or unclear another person or two it will help. So I think it's best to just have another day one, in a sense, get some people up there and start voting.

I actually don't like to set the vote as a wolf, I'm more likely to nudge it later. I am well aware that the person who talks first and talks the most gets their unfair share of suspicion. I'm willing to stick my nose out because I'm a villager, and because i think the village does better when we have a long day of voting history, not when people start throwing out votes at 3 pm or people mull over people without committing all day.

And also by your reckoning you're the one trying to set the vote, and you already admitted that's a Danny wolf move ;-)

[EagleFan]

Trying to find out if dacman will be able to play or if something came up (or a change of mind).

[Autumn]

First of all, I already said that about NTN and Lathum, that's why I didn't vote them. Mr. Bug tends to just driveby vote, in my experience, unless pressed, so I'd rather press day two than day 8.

But my main point is not to vote them because they're acting suspiciously, but just to have a reason to vote someone. So I guess yo'ure right, I'm doing it just to do it. It feels like another day one to me. The only people who were pinging me day one are either dead or were pretty much cleared by the two results.

[Autumn]

Also, coffee, and late night projects.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'll go ahead and put a vote up on Mr.Bug and get the fire under him. Mauboy I feel is likelier to get chatty on his own.

VOTE MRBUG708

Me? ME!? ME GET CHATTY!?

Crappy result today. I've got my own thoughts that I'll keep to myself for probably a day to see how it plays out today as I watch more closely what people say until tomorrow's deadline.

[Danny]

Looks like we're both the one trying to set the vote, only this is the second day in a row you have done so.

[mauchow]

I guess not crappy in the sense that we didn't hit a roled villager though.

[mauchow]

vote jackal

[Danny]

Originally Posted by Autumn

First of all, I already said that about NTN and Lathum, that's why I didn't vote them. Mr. Bug tends to just driveby vote, in my experience, unless pressed, so I'd rather press day two than day 8.

But my main point is not to vote them because they're acting suspiciously, but just to have a reason to vote someone. So I guess yo'ure right, I'm doing it just to do it. It feels like another day one to me. The only people who were pinging me day one are either dead or were pretty much cleared by the two results.

This isn't day 1 though there is information to be gleamed. Some of it depends on Narcizo's allegiance, but in general I'd say it's more likely wolves had early to mid votes that never changed all day.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

vote jackal

Jackal is #1 on my trust list at this point. He made a late vote change from one villager to another. Not impossible, but unlikely a wolf does that

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

Looks like we're both the one trying to set the vote, only this is the second day in a row you have done so.

I think the record would show that I like to get the voting started early as a villager. And I have lots of reasons why I don't think it would actually work as a wolf to vote the way I have, but I won't bother getting into them. Everybody's gotta vote on something, and you've found something.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by Danny

This isn't day 1 though there is information to be gleamed. Some of it depends on Narcizo's allegiance, but in general I'd say it's more likely wolves had early to mid votes that never changed all day.

I'm all for hearing any theories, and it's not like my vote's set in stone. I just didn't see anything leaping out at me, so went a different direction.

[Danny]

Unvote Autumn
Vote Mauboy

Yeah, I might give it some more time for you. If you were a wolf you probably would have killed me last night.

As much as you have been pinging me, Mau's post about having thoughts, but wanting to keep them to himself pinged me even more

[Autumn]

Well, I have to admit, I wouldn't have killed you if I was a wolf. But then again I definitely would not have killed bhlloy.

[Autumn]

Well, I'm off for the night. Let's see those votes folks!

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Danny

Unvote Autumn
Vote Mauboy

Yeah, I might give it some more time for you. If you were a wolf you probably would have killed me last night.

As much as you have been pinging me, Mau's post about having thoughts, but wanting to keep them to himself pinged me even more

You are funny.

[mauchow]

I'm not allowed to keep my thoughts to myself for a day to track what I feel might be decent information? Fair enough.

Good night everyone, I don't believe my boss will be around tomorrow so I should be able to post from phone. Yipee.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Having problems with this as well, on this new laptop. I didn't have it on my old laptop (last month) that was running IE9.

Also having some issues with Pandora, and random display driver issues. I'm about at the point where I'm ready to really start digging into these issues and see if I can find some ways of improving my IE experience. Easy answer would be "other browser" but I'm now working for a pretty hardcore MS partner who would frown upon that behavior. So might as well figure it out ...

Don't want to thread-jack any further, but if anyone else is having any of the above problems and wants to collaborate on trying to fix them I'm all for it.

I think I might have the Pandora one resolved, and the video driver stuff hasn't popped up yet tonight. But the FOFC "last thread" thing remains 100% screwed up.

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by Danny

It's a bad play because they didn't vote him before he left. He wasn't in awful shape when he left and in the event he had an important role, it was a bad move for everyone to vote for him later rather than earlier

Well, it was a bad move if they're villagers. The wouldn't care much if they were wolves.

Of course, bhlloy being a villager means wolves wuldn't care, period.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

I'm not allowed to keep my thoughts to myself for a day to track what I feel might be decent information? Fair enough.

But what purpose does that serve? If you're a villager you run the risk of letting the wolves dictate how things go or possibly get lynched or killed without saying anything

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Don't want to thread-jack any further, but if anyone else is having any of the above problems and wants to collaborate on trying to fix them I'm all for it.

I think I might have the Pandora one resolved, and the video driver stuff hasn't popped up yet tonight. But the FOFC "last thread" thing remains 100% screwed up.

Tried a few different settings in IE9 but nothing yet.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'll go ahead and put a vote up on Mr.Bug and get the fire under him. Mauboy I feel is likelier to get chatty on his own.

VOTE MRBUG708

I dont usually have much to say after the first day or two. I can't really defend myself at this point either as a villager. Unfortunately for the other villagers, I won't be around much the next two days either.

[Narcizo]

I realised that the wolves would, ideally, want to grab the powder. Which, like Darth, is why I went after it. Only I didn't think I needed to broadcast the fact. Personally if I were a wolf I would have gone after the wheelbarrow and certainly not been the first to go after the powder as that was bound to get some looks. Can't fault DV's reasoning though and I think it's a pity that he gets lynched on the first day he is actually active.

Lot of people keeping a low profile in the game. I'll be wanting to look at them. I'll look at the voting before seeing who I feel a bit better/worse about.

[Narcizo]

Killing Bhlloy is a strange move. I guess if the wolves thought he was roled they thought he would reveal if pushed as a lynch candidate this early and then get Fezzik's help. In fact if they thought he was Westley they might see this as their only shot to kill him for a long while, so that might explain it. I guess that bhlloy looked a bit eager to save himself which suggest wolf or, to the wolves, roled so that's probably what happened.

[Narcizo]

Day One

#98 12:39 Autumn votes Darth Vilus (1)
#102 01:59 Narcizo votes Darth Vilus (2)
#108 08:49 JAG votes Chief Rum (1)
#109 08:51 Packer votes Narcizo (1)
#124 11:18 Jackal votes Chief Rum (2)
#125 11:51 mau votes Narcizo (2)
#126 11:57 Bhlloy votes Chief Rum (3)

#138 13:39 Lathum votes Bhlloy (1)
#139 13:53 MrBug votes Autumn (1)
#140 13:54 JAG unvotes Chief Rum (2)
#143 14:18 Jackal unvotes Chief Rum (1)
#143 14:18 Jackal votes Bhlloy (2)
#144 14:18 Bhlloy unvotes Chief Rum (0)
#144 14:18 Bhlloy votes Ntndeacon (1)

#165 16:10 Ntndeacon votes Bhlloy (3)
#170 18:24 Passacaglia votes Darth Vilus (3)
#172 18:40 Darth Vilus votes Narcizo (3)
#190 19:13 Chief Rum votes Darth Vilus (4)
#192 19:23 MrBug unvotes Autumn (0)
#192 19:23 MrBug votes Narcizo (4)
#196 19:46 JAG votes Bhlloy (4)
#199 20:00 Danny votes Bhlloy (5)

#201 20:10 Telle votes Darth Vilus (5)
#217 20:45 Darth Vilus unvotes Narcizo (3)
#217 20:45 Darth Vilus votes Bhlloy (6)
#221 20:58 mau unvotes Narcizo (2)
#221 20:58 Mau votes Darth Vilus (6)
#223 21:03 Jackal unvotes Bhlloy (5)
#223 21:03 Jackal votes Darth Vilus (7)
#225 21:32 Bhlloy unvotes Ntndeacon (0)
#225 21:32 Bhlloy votes Darth Vilus (8)
#226 21:35 Packer unvotes Narcizo (1)
#226 21:35 Packer votes Darth Vilus (9)


Darth Vilus 9 - Autumn (98), Narcizo (102), Passacaglia (170), Chief Rum (190), Telle (201), mauboy1 (221), The Jackal (223), bhlloy (225), PackerFanatic (226)
bhlloy 5 - Lathum (138), ntndeacon (165), JAG (196), Danny (199), Darth Vilus (217)
Narcizo 1 - MrBug 708 (192)

[Narcizo]

OK I think whoever got the powder should 'fess up. No reason for a villager not to do so as far as I can see. If no-one admits it then we know that the wolves got it.

I didn't get the powder.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I dont usually have much to say after the first day or two. I can't really defend myself at this point either as a villager. Unfortunately for the other villagers, I won't be around much the next two days either.

There's not saying anything and then there's, you know, saying the absolute bear minimum of switching your vote. And if you're not going to be around the next two days you're not giving us anything to work on with regards to you.

[Narcizo]

Originally Posted by Danny

I think Narcizo might be worth a look,

That's what the ladies are always saying about me.

I agree that from an information-gathering point of view a run-off between me and Chief would ideally be the way to go. Wonder if the wolves thought that as well.

[Darth Vilus]

Ah what? I was a vanilla villager? Who would have thought! Didn't see that one coming!

[Darth Vilus]

personally i think the wolves got scared of me

[Darth Vilus]

And they should've been!